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06:33.41florianhi all
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07:45.26florianibot: botmail for pb_ Small problem with GpeTimesel: It doesn't look for clock-popup.png in /usr/share/libgpewidget (where it is), it looks in /usr/share/gpe/pixmaps/default/
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08:13.31pigeonHmm... what hex editor do you guys use under linux?
08:16.26florianhm hexedit? or hexer?
08:17.27pigeonI couldn't believe that I can't find an text/console mode hex editor that supports "find-next" feature :\
08:18.49pigeonAh, at last.
08:18.59pigeonncurses-hexedit
08:20.08pigeonAnd then it does not support search backwards.
08:26.20florian:-(
08:27.25pigeonI ended up using ghex :\
08:27.39pigeonThat's so sad... :~~~~~~~~~~~
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11:32.59Speuler'morning
11:36.08florianSpeuler: morning
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12:20.13lgflorian: hi
12:54.42florianhi lg
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14:53.39floriannilsf: .libs/libipkg.so.0.0.0: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, ARM, version 1 (ARM), not stripped
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15:14.38lgflorian: have some time to check the not-working ts on my h5400?
15:15.30florianlg: yes, at least a little bit...
15:16.01lgflorian: Ok, wait a minute. I'm connecting it to the ethernet...
15:17.20florianlg: do you have devmem2 installed?
15:18.05lgflorian: yes
15:18.15florianah, great
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15:38.11Speulerlook lik you lost a few people here
15:38.14Speulerlike
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15:39.36florianhell yes
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16:11.58dc_yay!
16:12.05dc_I have my powerbook back!
16:12.06dc_yatta
16:12.49dc_brb, food.
16:13.14florianhey dc_!
16:42.32florianibot: seen pb_?
16:42.33pb_ <~pb@2002:5160:45ef:0:2e0:7dff:fe74:8b87> was last seen on IRC in channel #handhelds.org, 17h 10m 8s ago, saying: 'lg: probably best file in bugzilla about that'.
16:44.54lgOps, maybe I was wrong... :-)
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17:13.05florianbbl
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17:26.43reenoohi
17:41.23dc_hwy
17:41.28dc_I return
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17:51.05dc_yo pb_
17:51.13dc_pb_: I've got my powerbook back !
17:51.57pb_re
17:51.57pb_dc_: rock!
17:51.59pb_that was quick.  is it fixed?
17:53.09pb_still haven't contacted them about mine.  I must do that tomorrow.
17:53.14nilsfAh, hi pb_!
17:53.20pb_nilsf: Hi :-)
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17:53.44dc_what's wrong with yours again?
17:53.52pb_dc_: ac adapter doesn't work any more
17:54.00nilsfpb_: Ready for some fun :) ?
17:54.03dc_ah yes.
17:54.10dc_nilsf: eh?
17:54.16nilsfpb_: I think the ADC change I made fixed the power drain ...
17:54.18pb_I want to take it to the handhelds conference next month, so I should try to get it fixed soonest.
17:54.20dc_nilsf: heard about your article in linux mag.
17:54.23pb_nilsf: Aha, cool
17:54.28dc_pb_: usa?
17:54.45pb_dc_: yep
17:55.00dc_sounds cool :}
17:55.06pb_hm, we should also lean on the German contingent to schedule a meeting in Siegen :-)
17:55.22pb_unless all of you guys want to come to Boston as well
17:55.22dc_indeeddd.
17:55.23nilsfpb_: Sure!
17:55.32dc_heh
17:55.38nilsfpb_: Petra did ask me about that today :) Must be telepathy :))
17:56.16nilsfBoston would for sure be nice but an expensive trip :(
17:56.30nilsfExcept HP would like to sponsor some tickets :)
17:56.38dc_quite so
17:57.26dc_I'm an os X sucker...so you'll have to put up with me, heh
17:57.28nilsfFor Germany, I think the Hahn airport is well reachable for you. I think we could pick you up by car from there...
17:57.35nilsfOr even better!!!
17:57.41pb_nilsf: Yeah.  Last time I went to Boston I think it only cost me about 300 euros, but this time seems to be more.
17:57.49pb_Yep, Hahn is easy to get to from Stansted.
17:57.53nilsfDo you have some time at the end of september?
17:58.03nilsfMompls...
17:58.28dc_it must be a weekend :-/
17:58.47nilsfThe 25th to 28th Sept. is the Linux kernel hacking and porting event in Oldenburg!
17:59.00reenooheh
17:59.09reenoothat like 30 mins from here
17:59.15reenoos/that/that's/
17:59.58dc_what are these event always at school times
18:00.21reenoocrap
18:00.27nilsfdc_: Ok, then the other way around: When do you have no school?
18:00.45reenoo<-- won't be at home then (vacation)
18:01.03pb_nilsf: btw, I think the handhelds teleconf is about to happen, in case you would like to join in
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18:02.55florianre
18:03.05nilsfpb_: I think not today, thanks...
18:03.06pb_florian: re
18:03.12pb_florian: thanks for the note about licences
18:03.18pb_nilsf: righto
18:03.37florianwee... someone has stolen our topic!
18:03.56dc_dear god
18:03.57pb_yes.  I wonder why that keeps happening.
18:04.12florianpb_: hi! you are late ;-)
18:04.27nilsfWe had several splits today and they updated the servers...
18:05.02pb_florian: hehe
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18:06.14floriannilsf: This was not a good idea to suspend with this disk mounted... i got a kernel panic after restore
18:06.31florianbrb
18:06.33nilsfflorian: :(
18:07.13floriannilsf: Or it was because i attaches several usb devices in the meantime...
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18:47.59pb_florian, nilsf: I think I found the cause of the problem with unstable4 images.
18:48.10nilsfpb_: Ah, cool!
18:48.21nilsfWhat was it? Am I guilty :) ?
18:48.22pb_I was using the wrong version of ipkg to build them.
18:48.27nilsfOh...
18:49.01pb_The latest packages make heavy use of Recommends: (notably, for all the gpe apps and h3800-modules), and the older ipkg was not honouring that.
18:49.04nilsfpb_: And the kernel problem?
18:49.24pb_nilsf: I don't think there was actually a kernel problem, just that h3800-module was not installed.
18:49.38pb_I imagine "ipkg install h3800-modules" would clear it up for you.
18:50.02nilsfpb_: Might be, I installed my own kernel which "solves" some other problems too ;)
18:50.26pb_nilsf: aha.
18:51.26nilsfpb_: Yep... Alsa is one "problem", the power is the second and I built that one before all SD stuff was merged...
18:51.53pb_Right.
18:51.59pb_What's the issue with alsa?
18:52.09nilsfI don't like it and cannot build it.
18:52.19pb_Can you not just install the OSS modules from the feed?
18:52.22nilsfAnd I want to be able to build my own kernels...
18:52.48nilsfSure... but I had to build my own anyway, so...
18:52.59pb_Ah right, fair enough.
18:53.17ade|homewe are moving to alas support now right ?
18:53.44nilsfWe support everyone who supports Alas ;)
18:54.03nilsfade|home: Yes, Alsa is the decided sounddriver now.
18:54.44pb_Right.  ALSA is the only supported option in 2.6 anyway.
18:54.48ade|homeis this to fit with 2.6 ?
18:54.58nilsfpb_: Really?
18:54.59ade|homelol i;m a bit slow
18:55.01pb_nilsf: Yes.
18:55.02ade|hometodya
18:55.17nilsfpb_: I did the OSS drivers as backport from 2.5.xx...
18:55.40pb_Oh, maybe the code is still in the tree then.  I don't think it shows up in the configuration though.
18:56.09pb_ade|home: also, the people working with telephony have had better experiences with ALSA than OSS in terms of latency.
18:56.23nilsfpb_: I cannot speak for ARM but I know for sure that x86 has OSS again since 2.5... dunno, .58?
18:56.34pb_nilsf: ah, okay.
18:56.39ade|homeso whats with the buffers in alsa then ?
18:56.40nilsfpb_: It was gone for some time, yes..
18:56.41pb_maybe our kconfig is just out of date.
18:57.22nilsfade|home: Maybe smaller than OSS. I don't care for latency (in contrast to others) since I like my iPAQ for music listening.
18:57.44nilsfAnd there I like constant audio which is not interrupted by SD/MMC/CF activity.
18:58.00ade|homeget a cd player then ;)
19:02.29nilsfCD are too big, SD's are a lot smaller...
19:04.39spungpb_: ever heard of a RTLD_NEXT macro?
19:04.56spungor #define
19:05.23ade|homecds sound better than sd though
19:06.32spungthis code isn't compiling: f = dlsym(RTLD_NEXT, "getresuid");
19:07.12dc_lets see if my 802.11g can handle two brick walls toaday
19:08.20pb_spung: yes.  man dlsym
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19:10.05spungpb_: i checked the dlfcn.h and RTLD_NEXT is in a #ifdef __USE_GNU, do I need to define that in my source code?
19:10.57dc_not so good
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19:13.01pb_spung: -D_GNU_SOURCE
19:13.15pb_you shouldn't define those __USE_* macros directly.
19:13.39spungpb_: i already had _GNU_SOURCE in the file but that didn't work
19:13.59pb_well, _GNU_SOURCE implies __USE_GNU.  are you sure you are including the right headers?
19:14.42spungthat file has a simple #include "config.", a #define _GNU_SOURCE after that and #include <dlfcn.h>
19:15.27spungthe manpage doesn't mention any more necessary headers
19:16.10pb_well, that works for me.
19:16.40pb_I did:
19:16.41pb_#define _GNU_SOURCE
19:16.41pb_#include <dlfcn.h>
19:16.41pb_RTLD_NEXT
19:16.47pb_and RTLD_NEXT is expanded correctly.
19:20.27spungi'm going to try and compile in another box
19:25.49spungah
19:25.58spungit compiles no my x86 box
19:26.04spungweird
19:27.54spungwell thanks pb_
19:28.11spungi'm going to try to figure out what's happening later tonight
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19:47.33dc_ay
19:47.34dc_yay
19:48.01dc_I get an awsome resolution out of my powerbook :]
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19:58.47pb_dc_: cool
20:10.27dc_hrm, installing the mysql preferences pane is proving challenging though
20:10.28dc_heh
20:19.11pb_heh
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21:49.27floriannight
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22:40.56dc_qoooo
22:49.16pb_mm?
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