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| 06:18.11 | florian | hi all |
| 06:18.18 | pigeon | hi florian! |
| 06:21.37 | florian | hi pigeon |
| 06:22.00 | florian | uhhh... this night was short :-/ |
| 06:22.08 | pigeon | :o |
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| 07:23.43 | florian | hi herzi |
| 07:23.52 | herzi | hi |
| 07:24.07 | herzi | kannst du mir meine halsschmerzen nehmen? |
| 07:26.07 | florian | herzi: Wohl eher nicht :-/ |
| 07:26.20 | herzi | :( |
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| 08:45.52 | florian | bbl |
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| 08:57.33 | jsmanrique_away | hi! |
| 08:57.49 | jsmanrique_away | familiar 0.7.2? wow! |
| 08:57.57 | jsmanrique_away | good morning |
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| 09:22.35 | florian | re |
| 09:23.16 | pb_ | morning |
| 09:23.18 | pb_ | hi florian |
| 09:24.01 | florian | hi pb_ |
| 09:24.57 | jsmanrique | just a silly question |
| 09:25.08 | jsmanrique | what is teleport? |
| 09:25.49 | jsmanrique | what can it do? |
| 09:26.03 | florian | jsmanrique: This allows you to change the X display for a running application. |
| 09:27.19 | jsmanrique | florian: how? |
| 09:27.31 | jsmanrique | florian: change the X display? |
| 09:27.44 | jsmanrique | florian: so I'll need a net connection or similar ..? |
| 09:34.29 | florian | jsmanrique: yes, sure - like starting an aplication on a remote display... |
| 09:35.04 | florian | jsmanrique: with teleport you can grab a running app and move it to a remote display |
| 09:35.11 | jsmanrique | maybe this could be useful for presentations |
| 09:35.40 | jsmanrique | I have a cross ethernet cable, so maybe I can plug my ipaq with my laptop or similar.. |
| 09:36.01 | jsmanrique | or even better using wireless |
| 09:36.03 | jsmanrique | right? |
| 09:36.45 | florian | exactly... |
| 09:37.25 | florian | or you could work with some applications on your desktop machine while you are in office... |
| 09:37.42 | florian | at the moment i think not all apps support thi feature... |
| 09:38.18 | jsmanrique | ok |
| 09:39.22 | jsmanrique | why Spanish option doesn't appear on login screen, as it used to appear before? |
| 09:39.42 | jsmanrique | I think I have all the needed packages |
| 09:39.51 | pb_ | I screwed up the last round of locale updates. |
| 09:40.25 | jsmanrique | where? |
| 09:41.03 | pb_ | Try creating a file /etc/gpe/locales/es_ES, containing the text: |
| 09:41.07 | pb_ | "Spanish" es_ES |
| 09:41.09 | pb_ | or whatever |
| 09:42.13 | jsmanrique | I have a /etc/gpe/locale.alias |
| 09:42.25 | jsmanrique | but I am going to do what you say |
| 09:42.42 | pb_ | The first string is the text that will be displayed in the menu, so you can use "Español" or whatever other name you prefer. |
| 09:43.36 | pb_ | Mmm, I'm not sure what locale.alias is used for. Maybe nothing. |
| 09:45.52 | jsmanrique | pb_: thanks it seems to work |
| 09:46.10 | jsmanrique | pb_: now I have to try special characters on apps |
| 09:48.58 | jsmanrique | nice |
| 09:49.07 | jsmanrique | everything is working again |
| 09:50.26 | pb_ | cool |
| 09:51.19 | jsmanrique | it seems that gpe-dm or login screen don't support espcial chars like ntilde |
| 09:51.21 | jsmanrique | ñ |
| 09:52.06 | pb_ | ah. |
| 09:52.22 | jsmanrique | gpe-edit does it well |
| 09:52.36 | jsmanrique | so, maybe there is a bug in gpe-dm |
| 09:52.38 | pb_ | okay, I'll look into that. Where on the screen are you trying to use those characters? |
| 09:53.05 | pb_ | If you could make a scap of it going wrong, that would be very helpful. |
| 09:53.33 | jsmanrique | in Language selection menu |
| 09:53.42 | jsmanrique | in gpe-login or whatever is it called |
| 09:54.02 | jsmanrique | it writes Espa instead of Español |
| 09:54.05 | pb_ | aha |
| 09:54.06 | pb_ | okay |
| 09:54.12 | jsmanrique | same bug seems to be on greader |
| 09:54.40 | pb_ | best file a bug on greader. |
| 09:54.47 | pb_ | I'll fix gpe-login later today. |
| 09:54.49 | jsmanrique | it cut texts where those special chars appear |
| 09:54.52 | jsmanrique | pb_: ok |
| 09:55.43 | jsmanrique | I hope to find sometime to "create" some kind of them based on this: http://art.gnome.org/screenshots/19.php |
| 09:55.57 | jsmanrique | I am using it on my laptop and PC and looks really cooool |
| 09:58.22 | pb_ | sounds good |
| 09:58.34 | pb_ | more themes are always nice to have :-) |
| 09:59.06 | jsmanrique | it is a hard work, I think |
| 10:00.04 | pb_ | I don't think it should be _that_ much work. The GTK theme can probably be used unchanged, or nearly so, and from what I gather writing Matchbox themes is fairly easy. |
| 10:00.20 | pb_ | not that I've ever tried, personally. |
| 10:00.27 | jsmanrique | what is defaul size for icons? |
| 10:00.42 | pb_ | panel icons? 16x16 |
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| 10:01.15 | dc_ | morning |
| 10:02.06 | pb_ | dc_: hey |
| 10:03.21 | dc_ | time to work I think :/ |
| 10:03.30 | jsmanrique | pb_: ok |
| 10:04.29 | pb_ | dc_: more php? |
| 10:05.15 | florian | hi dc_ |
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| 10:08.02 | dc_ | pb_: indeed. |
| 10:08.51 | jsmanrique | see you |
| 10:08.58 | pb_ | jsmanrique: later |
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| 15:52.42 | florian | hi paul! |
| 15:52.55 | paul | hey florian.. |
| 15:52.57 | paul | wie gehst? |
| 15:53.47 | florian | alles bestens :-) |
| 15:54.26 | florian | Lots of work... not enough sleep at all :-/ |
| 15:55.16 | pb_ | florian: :-( |
| 15:56.06 | pb_ | moray: ping? |
| 15:57.04 | moray | pb_: hi |
| 15:57.28 | pb_ | moray: would you care to make a new upload of keylaunch to fix this #!/bin/sh issue in the session script? |
| 15:58.14 | pb_ | People keep complaining that the power button doesn't work any more in unstable. |
| 16:00.37 | moray | pb_: I can't easily build for ARM at the moment :/ (although I guess I could try to build on the handhelds.org machines) |
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| 16:01.37 | pb_ | moray: oh, right, fair enough. |
| 16:01.47 | pb_ | if you check in the appropriate stuff, I can build a new package. |
| 16:02.15 | pb_ | or, yeah, building on the cluster ought to work as well. |
| 16:02.19 | moray | doh, I really ought to check that I'm typing at the machine I think I am before killing X |
| 16:02.55 | pb_ | hah |
| 16:04.40 | moray | pb_: I'm ipaqless, so do you have an exact problem description / fix? I don't seem to have been sent any bug report through bugzilla |
| 16:17.45 | pb_ | moray: the latest gpe-dm requires that all the files in /etc/X11/Xsession{-gpe}.d are executable directly without going through the shell. Some of them, and keylaunch seems to be one, lack #!/bin/sh at the top. |
| 16:19.59 | moray | pb_: right, thought that was the problem - Nils appears to have fixed it in CVS, in that case |
| 16:20.14 | pb_ | ah, okay. |
| 16:20.51 | pb_ | florian: oh, you might be interested in this too: |
| 16:20.53 | pb_ | <pb_> jamey: I found some time today to poke at the h5400 with the oscilloscope. |
| 16:20.53 | pb_ | <pb_> When it locks up, it does indeed seem to do so with nCS5 and nWAIT both low. |
| 16:20.56 | pb_ | <pb_> (incidentally, the test point for CS5 seems to be a short distance due north of the samcop chip, at least on my unit, near the U505 legend) |
| 16:22.35 | pb_ | moray: let me know if you need me to build a new binary. |
| 16:23.34 | florian | pb_: Yep, this is interesting... |
| 16:23.51 | florian | pb_: What is nCS5 used for? |
| 16:33.32 | pb_ | florian: that's the chip select to samcop |
| 16:34.57 | florian | pb_: ah, okay... just to be sure. |
| 16:35.17 | florian | Now we'd need to find out why this happens... |
| 16:35.20 | pb_ | yep |
| 17:03.58 | florian | bbl |
| 17:04.06 | pb_ | florian: later |
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| 20:37.19 | florian | re |
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| 21:14.17 | moray | pb_/anyone: can you test if keylaunch 2.0.4 works? |
| 21:19.31 | florian | moray: Did you create a new package? |
| 21:21.11 | moray | florian: yes, it should be in the feed - but I don't have an ipaq to test myself :) |
| 21:22.20 | florian | I ran upgrade a few seconds before... it updated gpe-dm only... maybe the package list is still not up to date. |
| 21:22.59 | florian | pb_: gpe-dm postinst doesn't find update-rc.d :-/ |
| 21:24.08 | florian | ah, i see :-) |
| 21:31.05 | florian | moray: ok... it's installed... what is new/fixed? |
| 21:33.02 | moray | florian: the startup scripts should now have proper #! lines and therefore work properly with newer versions of stuff... |
| 21:33.22 | moray | apparently people were complaining that 'the power button wasn't working' because of this |
| 21:33.36 | florian | moray: oh, something is obviously wrong... no reaction of the power button. |
| 21:33.47 | florian | this worked before :-) |
| 21:34.56 | moray | florian: just installing the package won't have made it run the new version of course - did you log out and in again? |
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| 21:36.15 | florian | moray: yep, i did.... checking for errors in log.... |
| 21:38.57 | florian | moray: i can't find anything in my xsession-errors... |
| 21:39.11 | moray | florian: is it running / do any buttons work? |
| 21:41.17 | florian | moray: ah looks kike it wasn't started. |
| 21:41.25 | florian | s/kike/like |
| 21:42.00 | florian | moray: It segfaults instantly after start. |
| 21:44.17 | florian | Looks like linked againsa broken lib or a broken linker - it dies after reading from libXext.so.6 |
| 21:44.22 | moray | hm, probably just a build problem then - sounds like someone who can test locally will need to rebuild it |
| 21:45.03 | florian | moray: is it in cvs? |
| 21:45.15 | moray | florian: yes, CVS should be up to date (and tagged) |
| 21:52.03 | pb_ | florian: hell. any idea why not? |
| 21:53.47 | florian | moray: yep, seems to be a problem with your toolchain... |
| 21:54.48 | florian | moray: the binary is in my public dir at hh.org |
| 21:55.00 | florian | pb_: still this PATH issue?! |
| 21:55.14 | pb_ | florian: hrm |
| 21:56.31 | pb_ | florian: remind me what the PATH issue was, again? |
| 21:56.33 | moray | florian: I built the binary on the skiffcluster... |
| 21:56.58 | moray | florian: erm, you'll need to build the package really, not just the binary, since I can't trust the strip not to break anything either? |
| 21:57.42 | florian | moray: ok, np - but tomorrow.... next day will very long for me. |
| 21:58.14 | moray | hm - pb_ can you rebuild keylaunch, since the one I built apparently segfaults :/ |
| 21:58.32 | pb_ | moray: will do |
| 21:58.54 | moray | florian/pb_: it would seem better to fix it now before too many people get the broken version |
| 21:59.07 | moray | pb_: thanks |
| 22:00.36 | florian | faster ;-) |
| 22:01.48 | florian | let me test this package before uploading... |
| 22:02.19 | florian | wow do i read from a file whenever it grows? |
| 22:02.28 | pb_ | florian: ah, you built it already? |
| 22:03.14 | florian | pb_: yep, it was easier than i thought :-) |
| 22:03.42 | pb_ | aha :-) |
| 22:04.48 | florian | Package keylaunch wants to install file /usr/bin/keylaunch |
| 22:04.48 | florian | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:04.51 | florian | ... |
| 22:05.53 | pb_ | wow, how did that happen? |
| 22:06.25 | florian | i have no idea... i removed the old package before. |
| 22:06.40 | pb_ | and you didn't install /usr/bin/keylaunch by hand or anything like that? |
| 22:07.04 | florian | nope, got this message for i thkink all files in the package |
| 22:07.20 | pb_ | strange. |
| 22:07.30 | pb_ | sounds like ipkg forgot to actually delete the files when you removed the package before. |
| 22:07.50 | florian | seems to work - can i replace the old package or do i need a new version number? |
| 22:08.06 | pb_ | need a new version number |
| 22:08.13 | florian | yep... it didn't tellme about deleting anything. |
| 22:08.18 | pb_ | just add -0.1 to the version for a binary nmu |
| 22:09.23 | florian | ack |
| 22:13.56 | florian | ok, it's uploaded.... |
| 22:14.01 | florian | night all |
| 22:14.37 | pb_ | florian: night |
| 22:15.02 | pb_ | <CIA> keylaunch_2.0.4-01_arm.ipk uploaded to unstable by boor@unix-ag.org |
| 22:15.09 | pb_ | hm, I'm not sure what ipkg-make-index will make of that version number. |
| 22:15.13 | pb_ | what was the previous one? |
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| 22:32.50 | pierre | hi all.. |
| 22:33.21 | pb_ | hi pierre |
| 22:33.22 | pierre | the sound dev file have disapeared in unstable? |
| 22:33.31 | pierre | files |
| 22:33.45 | pb_ | dunno. which kernel version do you have> |
| 22:33.45 | pb_ | ? |
| 22:34.17 | pierre | zImage-2.4.19-rmk6-pxa1-hh21-1 |
| 22:34.28 | pb_ | oh, probably need to upgrade to hh22 |
| 22:34.33 | pb_ | I don't think there were any alsa modules for hh21. |
| 22:34.45 | pierre | the arg.. |
| 22:34.56 | pierre | ipkg update/upgrade do not suffice? |
| 22:35.07 | pb_ | if you have 2.4.19 feed in ipkg.conf, they should. |
| 22:35.32 | pierre | where can I find this one? |
| 22:35.41 | pb_ | handhelds.org/feeds/2.4.19/ |
| 22:35.57 | pierre | ok thanx :) |
| 22:41.50 | pierre | I suppose you have played with 2.5.. do you think there will be a lot of progress for 2.6? I mean for familiar |
| 23:10.07 | pb_ | pierre: yes. 2.6 doesn't really work on ipaq yet, but it should do soon. |
| 23:10.19 | pb_ | our best men are on the case. |