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| 07:00.08 | florian | morning |
| 07:00.19 | pigeon | morning florian |
| 07:01.05 | florian | pigeon: hi |
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| 13:34.28 | florian | re |
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| 15:03.17 | pb_ | nilsf: did you manage to make the updated GpeClockFace work for you? |
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| 16:25.37 | nilsf | pb_: Haven't checked yet, sorry... had to solder new serial LCD modules ;) |
| 16:25.48 | nilsf | pb_: But I'll try later... |
| 16:39.59 | pb_ | nilsf: Aha :-) |
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| 17:03.15 | cmarqu_ | Hi all. |
| 17:03.54 | cmarqu_ | nilsf: Can you change the text on http://handhelds.org/mailman/listinfo/gpe? It should tell people that they have to be subscribed to the list before they can send mail. |
| 17:04.26 | nilsf | cmarqu_: OK! |
| 17:04.56 | cmarqu_ | nilsf: Thanks. Maybe you could also add a link to gmane? news://gmane.comp.handhelds.gpe |
| 17:05.50 | cmarqu_ | nilsf: And, while we are at it, we can import the mailing list archive to gmane, but it requires that the list owner (you) agrees. |
| 17:11.25 | nilsf | cmarqu_: Why not? Who has to do or do I have to send my agreement somewhere? |
| 17:12.14 | pb_ | hi cmarqu_ |
| 17:14.40 | cmarqu_ | nilsf: It's just an informal thing. I guess you could just send a line to me and I would forward that mail together with the archive mbox file to a gmane admin I know. |
| 17:15.29 | nilsf | cmarqu_: Just assume you have that mail and tell them that ;) It's effectively the same... |
| 17:15.52 | cmarqu_ | nilsf: Okay, I can always get back to you to get a written permission. |
| 17:16.04 | nilsf | cmarqu_: Exactly... |
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| 17:24.58 | cmarqu_ | nilsf: Typo: "to new (nntp)" --> "to Usenet News (nntp)" |
| 17:25.18 | nilsf | cmarqu_: Oh well... :) |
| 17:25.44 | cmarqu_ | Also, s/To post a message to all the list members, send email to gpe@handhelds.org./To post a message to all the list members, after you subscribed, send email to gpe@handhelds.org./ |
| 17:25.54 | cmarqu_ | :) |
| 17:26.08 | pb_ | Oh, I didn't realise the list was subscriber-post-only. |
| 17:26.22 | cmarqu_ | pb_: Apparently it changed at some point. |
| 17:26.38 | cmarqu_ | Someone said so on the GPE list at least. |
| 17:26.39 | nilsf | I did not change it ,.. BTW ... :) |
| 17:26.48 | pb_ | Ah. Strange, I wonder who did. |
| 17:26.59 | cmarqu_ | Maybe Nick? |
| 17:27.26 | cmarqu_ | Maybe we better change it back? |
| 17:27.26 | pb_ | Yeah, that's possible (assuming it wasn't in the last month or so). |
| 17:27.33 | hecresper | im reuploading gpe into my ipaq, i gave opie a try and it didnt have a net browser or a way to config my wifi cf card as easy as gpe |
| 17:27.53 | nilsf | pb_: The administrative interface does not allow it... |
| 17:28.23 | cmarqu_ | pb_: Oh, what happened to Nick? |
| 17:28.29 | pb_ | cmarqu_: I'd prefer it to be open, I think. So, if nobody knows why it was changed, yeah, let's put it back. |
| 17:28.59 | pb_ | cmarqu_: His contract at CRL ran out. Under Compaq's employment terms, he can't be hired again for 100 days. |
| 17:29.07 | cmarqu_ | Oh. |
| 17:29.17 | nilsf | cmarqu_: I have no influence on this "To post a message to all..." ... this is not covered in the admin interface... must be mailman hardcoded. |
| 17:29.34 | cmarqu_ | nilsf: Ah. |
| 17:31.35 | nilsf | cmarqu_: Me wrong... was in another section ;) |
| 17:31.48 | cmarqu_ | :) |
| 17:34.50 | nilsf | But I still cannot find an option to enable non-subscriber posts... |
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| 18:02.52 | florian | re |
| 18:05.15 | __moray | pb_: do you think we should be putting the Debian GPE packages in the new(ish) 'embedded' section? |
| 18:05.31 | pb_ | __moray: hm, not sure. |
| 18:06.40 | __moray | pb_: if not, then most of them should plausibly be in the gnome section rather than plain x11 |
| 18:07.33 | __moray | the embedded section was designed to get rid of opie stuff from the main archive, as far as I can tell |
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| 18:27.34 | _Yog_ | I tried the gpe-image from from handhelds.org for the Simpad ... boot hangs on 0x00180000-0x01000000 : "SIMpad root jffs2" ... does anyone has any ideas ? |
| 18:28.53 | pb_ | __moray: yeah, indeed. I can't recall which section opie was otherwise going into, but there were a huge number of packages there. |
| 18:29.17 | pb_ | I'm not sure what the debian gnome people would think about having gpe in "their" section. |
| 18:29.53 | __moray | indeed |
| 18:30.24 | __moray | I think the idea of the gnome/kde/whatever sections was not just to have everything in x11 though |
| 18:31.48 | pb_ | right |
| 18:32.16 | pb_ | well, that sounds like a question for #debian-devel maybe, or ask ftpmaster. |
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| 18:47.13 | cmarqu_ | _Yog_: Ask again when florian or nilsf are present. |
| 18:47.25 | florian | re |
| 18:47.30 | cmarqu_ | Ha! |
| 18:47.32 | cmarqu_ | :) |
| 18:48.51 | florian | i have some trouble with my internet connection... i ddon't know why, but pppd doesn't restart the connection... |
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| 19:01.23 | pb_ | florian: ah, nasty |
| 19:10.57 | fng_smartie | hello is there a way of "right click" in xdemineur? |
| 19:13.08 | pb_ | fng_smartie: you'll have to use xmonobut. |
| 19:13.26 | pb_ | this does kind of suck; we should fix xdémineur. |
| 19:15.15 | fng_smartie | yeah, it would be great if a long click would do a right click. |
| 19:15.45 | pb_ | yeah. that works in gtk applications, but xdémineur is xlib only. |
| 19:17.36 | fng_smartie | i see. well but implement such thing in the xlib? |
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| 19:21.04 | reenoo | hi |
| 19:23.44 | pb_ | hi reenoo |
| 19:23.52 | reenoo | hey pb_ |
| 19:25.11 | reenoo | btw... that d-link ap refuses to work in client mode :( |
| 19:25.24 | pb_ | darn |
| 19:26.52 | reenoo | the web interface lets you scan for APs... connects to the one you select and that's about it :( |
| 19:29.08 | reenoo | I had hoped for some advanced interface available via ssh or telnet... nothing :( |
| 19:30.06 | pb_ | suck. |
| 19:31.40 | reenoo | (without wlan access we have no inet connectivity at that exhibition booth) |
| 19:45.00 | reenoo | haha... |
| 19:45.10 | reenoo | <quote> |
| 19:45.20 | reenoo | Regarding the 900AP it only works in "client" mode with a limited set of their hardware (900AP+, 1000AP+), I've spoken with DLink on this issue (I'm trying to use it with one of their own 713P routers), short story is that this product is blatanly miss advertised - and they aren't willing to fix it. DON'T BUY THE DWL-900AP FOR CLIENT MODE!!!</quote> |
| 19:46.11 | florian | I have a 900AP - forget it... |
| 19:47.31 | reenoo | hey florian |
| 19:47.38 | florian | hi reenoo |
| 19:49.25 | reenoo | well |
| 19:50.23 | reenoo | a quick replacement would be nice... |
| 19:50.42 | reenoo | florian, do you need you laptop this week ;) |
| 19:50.52 | reenoo | </joke> |
| 19:51.33 | florian | ;.) |
| 19:52.25 | florian | reenoo: Dont you have access to any mobile pc?! |
| 19:53.51 | reenoo | hmm... just an old thinkpad with *shrug* XP on it... |
| 19:54.25 | florian | Great - two cheat wireless lan cards and knoppix :-) |
| 19:54.42 | florian | s/cheat/cheap |
| 19:55.15 | reenoo | knoppix comes with all kernel modules / user space tools neccessary? |
| 19:56.30 | florian | I'm not sure but you don't need that much: wireless lan support and iptables would be your basic needs... a dhcp server maybe an improvement. |
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| 20:02.42 | reenoo | florian: no dhcp needed... so, maybe |
| 20:02.51 | reenoo | thanks so far |
| 20:02.53 | reenoo | bbl |
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| 22:02.25 | dc_ | hey |
| 22:04.32 | florian | hi dc_! |
| 22:04.46 | dc_ | I am alive :} |
| 22:04.59 | dc_ | but I have a buggered powerbook |
| 22:05.13 | dc_ | that's being sent back in 2 days |
| 22:05.13 | dc_ | heh |
| 22:05.18 | pb_ | dc_: yo! |
| 22:05.28 | pb_ | ah, I thought your powerbook had started working again. |
| 22:05.31 | pb_ | guess that was short lived. |
| 22:05.35 | dc_ | hey pb_! |
| 22:05.37 | dc_ | almost. |
| 22:05.44 | dc_ | but now it's totaly messed. |
| 22:05.57 | dc_ | indeed. |
| 22:05.57 | dc_ | hehe |
| 22:06.16 | pb_ | hah |
| 22:06.19 | pb_ | oh well. |
| 22:06.22 | dc_ | college starts on the 8th |
| 22:06.31 | dc_ | and I have work up untill then. |
| 22:06.40 | pb_ | oh right, not long then |
| 22:06.41 | dc_ | but it means I wont have any mobile bills to pay. |
| 22:06.50 | dc_ | s/pay/left to pay/ |
| 22:07.24 | dc_ | indeed. |
| 22:07.35 | pb_ | mm. I start work at ARM again on the 1st. |
| 22:07.48 | dc_ | fun? |
| 22:08.00 | dc_ | doh. brb...coffee making time :} |
| 22:08.01 | pb_ | have to wait and see. |
| 22:08.07 | pb_ | it's for 4 months though, so let's hope so. |
| 22:12.49 | florian | gnome doesn't like me :-/ |
| 22:13.00 | pb_ | oh dear. :-/ |
| 22:15.52 | florian | Nautilus is able to browse samba servers - but the mime type for the shares is missing... |
| 22:19.33 | pb_ | Ah. I never tried that with my nautilus. |
| 22:21.06 | florian | Hmm.. yes, there are not many reasons to do this ;-) |
| 22:24.07 | florian | time to sleep a while... night all! |
| 22:24.45 | pb_ | florian: night! |
| 22:51.11 | pigeon | morning all |
| 22:56.59 | pb_ | hi pigeon |
| 22:58.59 | pigeon | good morning pb_ |
| 23:06.14 | pigeon | Hmm... if I've got this library that takes a file as input and read from it, but what I need is to get it to read from a character device instead, is there any (usual) way to get around it? |
| 23:07.15 | pb_ | Can't you just point it at the character device as if it were a file? |
| 23:07.40 | pigeon | Hmm... it doesn't like it. |
| 23:07.52 | pigeon | BTW, this is libmpeg3, if that makes a difference. |
| 23:08.21 | pigeon | According to strace, it's doing some stat on the opened fd. |
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| 23:27.44 | jsmanrique | hi! |
| 23:27.49 | jsmanrique | good night! |