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| 00:48.15 | th3j0k3r | is there a way to reload the parrot bootloader with only a cf card on a 3600?? |
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| 09:59.51 | florian | hi all |
| 10:17.09 | Speuler | moin florian |
| 10:17.22 | florian | hi Speuler |
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| 10:24.31 | pb_ | morning |
| 10:27.32 | florian | hello pb_ |
| 10:27.51 | pb_ | hi florian |
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| 11:48.45 | florian | paul_: hi |
| 11:48.52 | paul_ | hi flo |
| 11:50.33 | florian | brb, lunch |
| 12:51.01 | florian | re |
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| 12:54.20 | florian | hi nilsf |
| 12:54.23 | florian | hi mibus |
| 12:54.49 | mibus | hey ppls |
| 12:54.52 | mibus | pb_: PING |
| 12:55.18 | mibus | pb_: i have a patch for nmf to implement the playlist's "delete" support if you're interested... changelog entry and all :-) |
| 12:58.16 | pb_ | mibus: cool! |
| 12:58.41 | mibus | *emailed* |
| 12:58.51 | mibus | pb_: matt (again!) bugged me about it, and i figured why not :-) |
| 12:59.01 | pb_ | heh, right. |
| 12:59.15 | mibus | pb_: uni, another job, and an attempted personal life have all gotten in the way of my grand plans :-S |
| 12:59.20 | mibus | (incl. a g/f :-) |
| 13:00.37 | mibus | umm.. oops... resent :) |
| 13:01.07 | pb_ | mibus: aha :-) |
| 13:02.41 | pb_ | hi nilsf |
| 13:03.24 | nilsf | pb_: Hi :) |
| 13:08.30 | mibus | i gotta go to bed |
| 13:08.56 | mibus | pb_: check out that patch and get back to me... i should be able to do any modifications needed on friday night :-) |
| 13:09.04 | mibus | oh darn... no im going out :-S |
| 13:09.08 | mibus | well... somewhen... :-D |
| 13:09.43 | mibus | night all :) |
| 13:14.45 | nilsf | Yesterday I managed to crash nmf from unstable several times. I dies frequently when choosing files/dirs and it died after having played the last track. |
| 13:15.09 | nilsf | And what are the new "s" and "l" buttons good for :) ? |
| 13:33.43 | nilsf | pb_: Not found: http://handhelds.org/~pb/h5400/bootgpe2-h5400.pb2-h3900.jffs2 |
| 13:33.53 | nilsf | pb_: From the H54xx status page... |
| 13:35.08 | nilsf | pb_: Is it true that the H3900 images should work? |
| 13:39.25 | pb_ | nilsf: Ah, I just updated the h5400 page. Yes, use the h3900 root images. |
| 13:39.52 | nilsf | Ah cool. Bootloader from the Familiar 0.7.1 install "tar" is also OK? |
| 13:40.08 | pb_ | Yes. Use BootBlaster3900-2.6 and bootldr-pxa-2.20.4. |
| 13:40.13 | florian | nilsf: 2.20.4 |
| 13:40.18 | florian | :-) |
| 13:40.32 | nilsf | (BTW this download page is really nice, select the system and you get the correct download automatically... |
| 13:40.46 | nilsf | OK, I'll see what is inside the packge but I think it is this combi. |
| 13:41.00 | nilsf | Download will take: 20 mins. |
| 13:42.35 | pb_ | nilsf: the majority of the data in that tarfill will be the 0.7 root image, which is no use. |
| 13:42.56 | pb_ | nilsf: it would be better to download the loose files for bootldr and bootblaster, then obtain the unstable root image separately. |
| 13:43.02 | nilsf | No use? I want to install that one later, don't I? |
| 13:43.19 | nilsf | Oh, I see. |
| 13:43.30 | pb_ | nilsf: Ah, no, the Familiar 0.7 root images don't have any h5400 support. You must use the unstable versions. |
| 13:44.07 | nilsf | Cancelled ;) |
| 13:44.17 | florian | nilsf: thanks :-) |
| 13:45.05 | nilsf | florian: I now use FTP :) |
| 13:46.06 | nilsf | OK, got bootblaster and bootloader... frightening :) |
| 13:46.34 | florian | nilsf: Is better now - the toolchain is quite large :-/ |
| 13:49.57 | nilsf | Hmm... the iPAQ crashed after starting bootblaster... it displays its splash about steps to do and then hangs... |
| 13:50.20 | pb_ | oh, hm. |
| 13:50.46 | nilsf | Again after reset :( |
| 13:51.10 | pb_ | You definitely have bootblaster3900, not regular bootblaster? |
| 13:51.36 | nilsf | I thought so... would it start if not? But I am quite sure, really... |
| 13:52.12 | nilsf | Oh yes, it also sais: Welcome to Bootblaster 3900-2.6 |
| 13:52.27 | pb_ | Okay. Try asking Jamey, maybe he might have some ideas. |
| 13:52.40 | nilsf | :) |
| 13:52.48 | nilsf | Is he on some channel? |
| 13:53.02 | pb_ | #handhelds.org |
| 13:54.29 | nilsf | pb_: Oh, I got it myself... |
| 13:54.52 | nilsf | pb_: Obviously Bootblaster does not like to be started from MMC card. |
| 13:55.06 | pb_ | Ah. |
| 13:55.42 | nilsf | (maybe something for a potential FAQ...) |
| 13:57.26 | nilsf | Oh oh... I fear it crashed saving a gzip WinCE image... |
| 13:58.28 | nilsf | Hmmm at least it died directly after it... |
| 13:58.42 | nilsf | I have a ~17MB gzip wince file. |
| 13:59.59 | florian | hehe, this is like if you tried to eat a pumpkin :-) |
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| 14:07.31 | nilsf | I try a second time saving the image and see if it the same as the first... |
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| 14:09.29 | nilsf | Hmm... dies again and leaves the same 17.4MB file... |
| 14:10.58 | florian | nilsf: Let's try to unpack it, gzip will tell us... |
| 14:11.20 | nilsf | It will tell you if the GZIP is correct but not if the contents is intact :( |
| 14:11.46 | florian | Yes, true - wait... |
| 14:12.35 | florian | nilsf: h5450_wince.gz 09-Jun-2003 12:27 14.6M |
| 14:12.50 | nilsf | florian: Where is this one from? |
| 14:13.02 | florian | nilsf: wince feed :-) |
| 14:13.26 | nilsf | Oh dear... isn't that copyrighted...? |
| 14:13.33 | florian | I think if the file itself is ok, we have everything we need... |
| 14:14.06 | florian | pssssst ;-) |
| 14:14.26 | pb_ | nilsf: it is copyrighted, but since it is no use without an iPAQ, and you can't buy an ipaq without a wince licence, it seems unlikely anybody will make too much fuss. |
| 14:17.16 | nilsf | pb_: But can't it be used to upgrade to some other WinCE version you do not have a license for? |
| 14:19.53 | nilsf | pb_: Oh, bootblaster does not offer to save an asset partition... wasn't there something like this for the H38xx? |
| 14:20.18 | pb_ | nilsf: hm, it should save the asset partition automatically. |
| 14:20.50 | nilsf | pb_: Where to? Inside the PPC image? |
| 14:21.14 | pb_ | No, I think you get a separate file called saved_asset.gz. |
| 14:23.14 | nilsf | Nop, sorry... nothing there. |
| 14:23.38 | pb_ | Weird. |
| 14:23.45 | pb_ | I guess this is another question for Jamey. :-) |
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| 14:25.42 | florian | jg: hello! |
| 14:27.23 | nilsf | The wince images are definitely broken :( |
| 14:27.37 | nilsf | The gzip already fails, unexpected EOF. |
| 14:27.50 | nilsf | pb_: Is it worth trying an older bootblaster? |
| 14:28.13 | pb_ | Worth a go. |
| 14:28.23 | jg | florian: hi. |
| 14:32.32 | nilsf | Strange, Bootblaster-2.5 works from MMC... |
| 14:32.55 | pb_ | nilsf: that's weird. I don't remember what changed between 2.5 and 2.6, but I doubt it was much. |
| 14:33.20 | nilsf | pb_: It isn't... about 1k binary added. |
| 14:33.36 | nilsf | pb_: But even a byte can mean the world ;) |
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| 17:18.20 | florian | bbl |
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| 17:56.08 | florian | re |
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| 18:30.54 | reenoo | hi |
| 18:40.20 | florian_ | hi reenoo |
| 18:43.12 | reenoo | hey florian_ |
| 18:47.07 | reenoo | florian_: kicked ppc from the ipaq already? |
| 18:47.33 | florian_ | reenoo: yep, nils did :-) |
| 18:52.06 | florian_ | reenoo: give me some minutes... |
| 18:52.09 | florian_ | brb |
| 18:52.32 | nilsf | reenoo: Which details :) ? |
| 18:53.43 | reenoo | nilsf: details on how well linux/gpe works on the H5550 |
| 18:54.03 | reenoo | (hope I got the model number right ;) |
| 18:54.55 | nilsf | reenoo: Yes, correct. |
| 18:55.05 | nilsf | reenoo: The short or long version :) |
| 18:55.47 | nilsf | reenoo: The short version is, it runs, a little. |
| 18:56.19 | reenoo | the question is... well enough to buy one? |
| 18:57.22 | reenoo | don't get me wrong... I want a new toy... would be boring if everything worked from the beginning ;) |
| 18:58.03 | nilsf | I don't wnat to be a party pooper but ATM I would not recommend it. |
| 18:58.25 | nilsf | It is very expensive and offers too littlöe advantage over cheeper units like H38x0 |
| 19:03.53 | reenoo | bbl |
| 19:10.36 | florian_ | re |
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| 19:34.17 | pb_ | re |
| 19:34.55 | florian_ | pb_: wb |
| 19:35.21 | pb_ | florian_: any luck flashing your 5500? |
| 19:36.03 | nilsf | pb_: Yep, after hours of serial transfer. |
| 19:36.38 | nilsf | pb_: We now also have the ts problem ;) |
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| 19:38.24 | nilsf | And it does ot wake up again. |
| 19:38.30 | nilsf | s/ot/not |
| 19:38.31 | pb_ | I haven't tried it recently, though. Maybe I broke something in the recent changes. |
| 19:38.37 | nilsf | :) |
| 19:38.48 | nilsf | How can I switch it off now? |
| 19:38.50 | pb_ | nilsf: I think there is a debug thing you can enable in /proc/sys/pm somewhere. |
| 19:38.59 | pb_ | Only by removing the battery, really. |
| 19:39.08 | nilsf | Ah! Battery! Me dumb! |
| 19:39.26 | nilsf | Havent thought of this since all other iPAQs havn't had that feature ;) |
| 19:39.35 | pb_ | Hehe :-) |
| 19:39.58 | nilsf | OK...pulling the plug... |
| 19:40.47 | nilsf | Ah wait... maybe we can do some debugging first. |
| 19:40.56 | nilsf | A damn, the screen has blanked now... |
| 19:41.39 | pb_ | Heh |
| 19:41.41 | nilsf | Interestingly I still get interrupts when I touch the screen. But no readings it seems. |
| 19:42.07 | nilsf | And the screen is portrait! Nice... |
| 19:42.39 | nilsf | Oh, and the while console output does not go to ttySA0 :( |
| 19:42.44 | pb_ | Ah, I think the ts driver might just be disabled in the current kernel. |
| 19:42.55 | pb_ | nilsf: try console=ttyS0 in linuxargs. |
| 19:43.10 | nilsf | Ah, not ttySA0 anymore :) |
| 19:43.45 | pb_ | nilsf: have a look in arch/arm/mach-pxa/h5400_asic_io.c for obviously-commented-out lines in h5400_asic_adc_isr(). |
| 19:43.45 | nilsf | OK, now I have a cursor again. How do you suiggest to suspend? apm -s ? |
| 19:43.55 | pb_ | Yep, apm -s should be right. |
| 19:44.17 | nilsf | OK. |
| 19:44.32 | nilsf | Cursor still blinks but rest seems dead. |
| 19:45.01 | nilsf | Oh, cursor now gone but that might be due to console blanking :( |
| 19:45.13 | reenoo | florian_, nilsf: good deal? http://www.computerstudioernst.de/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=28&products_id=150&osCsid=9f88f4ba07aaaa4e52c3d47bca16df5b |
| 19:45.23 | nilsf | AH! It resumed! |
| 19:45.28 | pb_ | Aha. |
| 19:45.52 | pb_ | Maybe echo 1 > /proc/sys/pm/debug and then try again. |
| 19:45.58 | nilsf | But now the display backlight is off. |
| 19:46.30 | nilsf | Oh. The backlight is off and stays off. |
| 19:46.36 | pb_ | Ah, hm. |
| 19:47.08 | pb_ | I'm not sure what would cause that. Maybe some part of the samcop state is not being properly saved around suspend. |
| 19:47.10 | nilsf | The whole screen is off! |
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| 19:47.30 | pb_ | Oh. |
| 19:48.04 | nilsf | And now I am in the state of no return ;) |
| 19:48.53 | nilsf | That means - power down and have some dinner... more tomorrow. I think florian is eager to find the ts bug ;) |
| 19:49.31 | pb_ | Okay, cool. |
| 19:49.58 | nilsf | Thanks so far! Good night! |
| 19:50.07 | florian | nilsf: i'll start as soon i'm able to get the ipaq :-) |
| 19:50.46 | pb_ | nilsf: Night! |
| 19:50.48 | reenoo | nilsf: 'night |
| 19:51.15 | florian | nilsf: night |
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| 21:09.43 | reenoo | -> bed |
| 21:10.11 | florian | reenoo: night |
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| 21:54.25 | florian | nicgt |
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