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| 06:20.19 | florian | hi all |
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| 07:28.18 | pb_ | morning |
| 07:28.27 | pigeon | hey hey morning pb_ |
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| 07:33.53 | florian | hi pb_, PaxAnima, _zoot_ |
| 07:37.03 | PaxAnima | hi, florian |
| 07:39.34 | Speuler | 'morning |
| 07:51.47 | pb_ | pigeon: yo yo yo |
| 07:52.10 | pb_ | florian: hi |
| 08:09.01 | florian | hi Speuler |
| 08:19.12 | Speuler | grias di florian |
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| 09:05.44 | florian | brb |
| 09:06.06 | semtex | xmms on ipaq |
| 09:06.18 | semtex | works :) |
| 09:06.37 | pb_ | cool |
| 09:22.55 | Speuler | noticed that /usr/share/applications/mbmenu-desktop.desktop still executes mbcontrol (which doesn't seem to come with mb0.6), should Exec=mbdesktop instead |
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| 09:31.24 | florian | re |
| 09:31.29 | Speuler | wb |
| 09:36.18 | Speuler | anyone got a pointer to description of building .ipk-packages handy ? |
| 09:37.11 | florian | eh... ipkg-build? :-) |
| 09:37.25 | Speuler | sounds good :) |
| 09:50.06 | Speuler | none of the movie player i've looked at as far come even close to "movie" playing. |
| 09:50.19 | pb_ | which ones have you looked at? |
| 09:50.24 | Speuler | right now xine |
| 09:50.32 | Speuler | the one before was .. |
| 09:50.59 | Speuler | (looking) |
| 09:52.18 | Speuler | famplayer i think |
| 09:53.49 | Speuler | maybe dvdview |
| 09:54.12 | Speuler | if i remove a package because i think it's not adequate i forget its name quickly ... |
| 09:54.37 | Speuler | but i think it was famplayer |
| 09:55.44 | Speuler | haven't found/tried mplayer for arm yet |
| 10:03.10 | pb_ | I think there's a think called BBPlay that you could try. |
| 10:03.16 | pb_ | s/think/thing/ |
| 10:03.39 | Speuler | noted |
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| 11:07.10 | Speuler | dock cpu/mem monitor of mb0.6 doesn't survive screen rotate |
| 11:08.49 | florian | Yep... this tool needs some improvement... |
| 11:09.47 | Speuler | the clock too .. still tries to rotate its output, not respecting that 0.6 dock does not rotate anymore |
| 11:10.38 | Speuler | (eats up too much dock space anyway) |
| 11:11.09 | florian | yep - maybe file this as bugs... mallum is quite busy at the moment ;-) |
| 11:11.26 | Speuler | can imagine that |
| 11:12.41 | tigert | 6argh |
| 11:12.50 | tigert | does anyone have an image of the latest gpe stuff + familiar? |
| 11:12.59 | tigert | my "no space left on device" seems to fsck me all over |
| 11:13.33 | pb_ | I think the unstable1b is still the latest. |
| 11:13.43 | florian | yeah |
| 11:14.17 | Speuler | tigert: i could create one from my flash, but i it may be of limited use for you: 've put several symbolic links to dirs on CF |
| 11:14.37 | tigert | right |
| 11:14.47 | tigert | I could do that, but I only have one pcmcia slot |
| 11:14.53 | tigert | so I cannot add the extra flash |
| 11:14.59 | tigert | since then I lose network |
| 11:15.02 | pb_ | I guess I can spin a new image from unstable easily enough. You want me to do that? |
| 11:15.36 | tigert | if you want |
| 11:15.44 | tigert | just remember I have just 16MB of flash |
| 11:15.48 | pb_ | okay |
| 11:15.54 | tigert | I think this thing is messed up |
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| 11:16.07 | pb_ | probably take 15 minutes to run. |
| 11:16.15 | tigert | pb_: no problem |
| 11:16.21 | Speuler | wouldn't have worked from my flash anyway in that case |
| 11:16.25 | tigert | well |
| 11:16.34 | tigert | I can also just get the unstable image and update it I guess |
| 11:17.40 | tigert | but if it contained the latest gpe stuff it would be great |
| 11:19.13 | pb_ | okay. well, I'm building an unstable2 image now. I'll let you know when it's ready. |
| 11:19.45 | pb_ | should probably find a way to do this locally at handhelds.org, rather than hauling all the bits across the Atlantic twice. |
| 11:30.39 | pb_ | image is built, uploading now. eta 6 minutes. |
| 11:36.12 | tigert | ok |
| 11:36.14 | tigert | good |
| 11:37.17 | pb_ | done |
| 11:37.30 | pb_ | http://handhelds.org/~pb/unstable/bootgpe2-0.7+unstable2-h3600.jffs2 |
| 11:37.55 | pb_ | hm, it seems to be a bit smaller than the old ones. I hope that doesn't mean it's a bad build. |
| 12:04.42 | tigert | we'll see soon |
| 12:07.31 | pb_ | ok, cool |
| 12:36.04 | tigert | it's still flashing :) |
| 12:36.15 | tigert | sometimes you wonder how we ever got around with modems and stuff |
| 12:36.19 | tigert | and serial cables |
| 12:37.03 | Speuler | tigert: that was a time when the average size of an executable was 20 k :) |
| 12:37.08 | tigert | yes |
| 12:37.21 | tigert | the amiga stuff was fun |
| 12:37.31 | tigert | disk copy app that fit on a single boot block |
| 12:37.40 | tigert | those were amazing |
| 12:37.57 | Speuler | flex 09 ... had a space of 256 bytes for all i/o drivers |
| 12:38.19 | Speuler | and 1.5 k as transient program area |
| 12:38.22 | tigert | :-) |
| 12:38.58 | Speuler | rest of the os was about 6 k |
| 12:39.48 | Speuler | 3 minutes with 300 bit/sec |
| 12:40.34 | tigert | ok, flashing done |
| 12:43.12 | tigert | lets see if it boots |
| 12:43.25 | tigert | at least linux does |
| 12:44.54 | pb_ | cool |
| 12:45.56 | tigert | it boots, but doesnt start gpe |
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| 12:49.23 | Speuler | login-screen ? |
| 12:49.47 | Speuler | or no X at all ? |
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| 12:58.30 | florian | hi mallum! |
| 12:59.00 | Speuler | mallum: noticed that /usr/share/applications/mbmenu-desktop.desktop still executes mbcontrol (which doesn't seem to come with mb0.6), should Exec=mbdesktop instead |
| 12:59.38 | mallum | hey florian |
| 12:59.56 | mallum | Speuler: it should execute mbcontrol |
| 13:00.15 | mallum | Speuler: mbcontrol should probably be in matchbox-common |
| 13:00.26 | Speuler | even if there ain't no binary by that name ? |
| 13:00.53 | florian | mallum: Did you see? I created a new mbmerlin package yesterday... |
| 13:01.09 | mallum | florian: ah cool |
| 13:02.19 | florian | mallum: I added support fo a binary data format - this improves startup times very much. |
| 13:02.40 | mallum | florian: ah coolio |
| 13:02.44 | mallum | florian: well done ! |
| 13:04.37 | Speuler | hmm.. confusing ... ipkgfind says mbcontrol should be in matchbox-noxft (familiar 0.7), ipkg files matchbox-common says /usr/bin/imbcontrol, ipkg info says "installed" but there's no mbcontrol in /usr/bin |
| 13:05.08 | mallum | Speuler: who knows, ipkg is a fool ;-) |
| 13:05.13 | Speuler | reinstalling ... |
| 13:07.05 | Speuler | reinstalled matchbox-common .. ( -force-reinstall ) . . still no mbcontrol |
| 13:07.33 | pb_ | tigert: ah, hm, I wonder what's up with that. |
| 13:07.42 | pb_ | do you have gpe-dm running? |
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| 13:12.51 | flypiper | pb_: Morning |
| 13:13.07 | pb_ | hi flypiper |
| 13:13.51 | pb_ | Did I tell you I finally rebuilt the Xserver packages? |
| 13:14.07 | flypiper | pb_: yes, sir.. I would be happy to check them out :-) |
| 13:14.16 | pb_ | Okay, cool. Let me find the URL. |
| 13:14.24 | flypiper | koool |
| 13:15.19 | pb_ | Just one package, actually. Look in http://people.debian.org/~pb/xsf/20030810/ |
| 13:15.25 | flypiper | OKY |
| 13:15.48 | pb_ | The version number is the same as the previous one, but it is actually a different binary. I forgot to update the control file. |
| 13:16.32 | flypiper | np.. I will get on my winder at home and download it.... at work presently... thanks |
| 13:17.16 | pb_ | Righto. Let me know if it works any better. |
| 13:18.38 | flypiper | sure thing :-) |
| 13:26.25 | flypiper | pb_: got it.. I will check it out tonight.. thanks again |
| 13:39.37 | bobf | pb_: I'll try your http://handhelds.org/~pb/unstable/bootgpe2-0.7+unstable2-h3600.jffs2 in a minute.. |
| 13:40.03 | bobf | eta ~3m to d/l it. |
| 13:47.59 | pb_ | ok, cool |
| 13:48.13 | pb_ | sounds like it didn't work for tigert for some reason. if you can figure out what's up, that would be good. |
| 13:48.34 | tigert | hmm |
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| 13:49.10 | pb_ | I haven't had a chance to try that image myself yet. |
| 13:49.21 | tigert | hm |
| 13:49.24 | tigert | I dont have strace |
| 13:49.35 | tigert | and the thing doesnt configure my wavelan yet |
| 13:49.40 | tigert | so I cannot install |
| 13:49.46 | tigert | and the gpe-dm doenst start |
| 13:49.54 | mallum | florian: updating mbinputmgr with mr tigerts icons will probably have to wait now till I get back from honeymoon |
| 13:49.58 | tigert | hey |
| 13:50.03 | tigert | where should Xipaq be? |
| 13:50.07 | tigert | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:50.19 | mallum | tigert: /usr/X11R6/bin |
| 13:50.29 | bobf | mallum: Just get married? Congrats :) |
| 13:50.55 | pb_ | tigert: oh dear, sounds like it's quite badly screwed up then. wavelan ought to work out of the box. |
| 13:51.03 | tigert | hmm |
| 13:51.09 | tigert | what modules are there for wavelan? |
| 13:51.18 | mallum | bobf: I get married in 3 days |
| 13:51.20 | bobf | pb_: I'll try it in a few minutes. |
| 13:51.32 | tigert | hmm |
| 13:51.33 | Speuler | mallum: hope you've got WiFi |
| 13:51.39 | tigert | this has two modules dirs |
| 13:51.40 | pb_ | tigert: if you mean genuine wavelan, I think it's wvlan_cs. or hostap_cs for prism. |
| 13:51.45 | tigert | # cd /lib/modules/ |
| 13:51.45 | tigert | # ls |
| 13:51.45 | tigert | 2.4.19-rmk6-pxa1-hh18b 2.4.19-rmk6-pxa1-hh20 |
| 13:51.48 | mallum | Speuler: no computers for 3 weeks :-) |
| 13:51.50 | tigert | that seems like a waste? |
| 13:51.59 | tigert | american honeymoon is 3 weeks? |
| 13:52.10 | florian | mallum: yep, ok - when do you will be back? |
| 13:52.13 | pb_ | tigert: yeah, the alsa and wlan-ng drivers are not built for hh20 yet, so the hh18b versions will hang around. |
| 13:52.21 | tigert | oh |
| 13:52.24 | bobf | tigert: Depends how much money/time you've got. |
| 13:52.27 | mallum | florian: sept 8th or summin I think |
| 13:52.30 | pb_ | tigert: nothing is actually duplicated though: the two modules directories will have different contents. |
| 13:52.38 | mallum | tigert: from UK, not US |
| 13:52.52 | bobf | mallum: Awesome. I'm engaged.. planning the wedding and all that. |
| 13:53.04 | bobf | Where are you going for the honeymoon? |
| 13:53.08 | mallum | bobf: cool |
| 13:53.19 | florian | mallum: ok, i'll try to keep this in mind. |
| 13:53.35 | mallum | bobf: London -> LA -> Hawaii -> Japan -> London :-)) |
| 13:53.51 | mallum | bobf: world tour ;-) |
| 13:53.54 | tigert | cardmgr[327]: no pcmcia driver in /proc/devices |
| 13:53.57 | tigert | hm |
| 13:54.01 | bobf | Just for flights, or actually staying in each of those cities? |
| 13:54.13 | tigert | hm, got to do other stuff now |
| 13:54.17 | tigert | I'll see that later |
| 13:54.35 | mallum | bobf: staying in each country |
| 13:54.43 | jg | mallum: best wishes on your wedding..... |
| 13:54.45 | pb_ | tigert: ah. ok, let me look into that. |
| 13:54.51 | mallum | jg: thanks |
| 13:55.01 | mallum | jg: Im in a lot of trouble for the stag night currently ;-) |
| 13:55.13 | bobf | Sounds like fun. We're looking at Jamaica/Bahamas, maybe Fiji or Caicos.. not sure. |
| 13:55.32 | jg | mallum: I was spared that ritual... |
| 13:56.26 | mallum | jg: nobody did anything evil to me so it was good |
| 13:56.45 | mallum | jg: oh I met nelson and family on monday :-) |
| 14:21.02 | bobf | I want to use xcalibrate, but don't have /proc/hal/model? Do I need to hack xcalibrate.c, or is there a simple solution? (I'm not running an Ipaq, I'm using a 5-wire touchscreen) |
| 14:21.51 | mallum | bobf: you should probably use the X packages here, http://handhelds.org/~mallum/xpkgs/ |
| 14:22.06 | mallum | bobf: using the tslib librarys |
| 14:22.23 | bobf | Okay, let me give that a try. |
| 14:22.26 | mallum | bobf: what machine is it ? |
| 14:22.36 | bobf | An Applied Data Systems AGX. |
| 14:22.57 | bobf | Uses a PXA250 |
| 14:24.11 | bobf | So I want tslib-common and tslib-tools? |
| 14:24.18 | mallum | yeah they should hopefully work, look at the xserver-kdrive-xfbdev wrapper script in /usr/X11R6/bin and experiment with env vars you see there |
| 14:24.26 | mallum | bobf: right, and the xserver package |
| 14:25.46 | bobf | ~ # ipkg install tslib-tools_20030404-2_corgi.ipk |
| 14:25.46 | bobf | Cannot find package tslib-tools. |
| 14:25.46 | bobf | Check the spelling or perhaps run 'ipkg update' |
| 14:25.49 | bobf | Just force it? |
| 14:26.31 | mallum | you probably need to add 'corgi' to your /etc/ipkg/summin |
| 14:27.04 | mallum | there is a file in /etc/ipkg which lists platforms, just add corgi to that |
| 14:31.22 | bobf | k.. added corgi to that, it worked. How about the xserver-tinyx-fbdev_4.3-11_armv41-xscale.ipk? |
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| 14:32.06 | bobf | I did add http://handhelds.org/~mallum/xpkgs/ to my /etc/ipkg/gpe.conf, but I can't ipkg install xserver |
| 14:32.09 | mallum | bobf: you may need to add armv41 and xscale to that file if not already there |
| 14:33.17 | mallum | bobf: also if you are running them packages with GPE there may be some minor compatability problems |
| 14:33.53 | bobf | Well, ideally I want to run just tiny-x (this is going to be a simple x-terminal, but I do need GTK for setup screens and stuff) |
| 14:34.18 | mallum | bobf: okey should be fine then |
| 14:35.30 | mallum | bobf: the main problem is gpe-dm expecting xserver-kdrive-fbdev to just exec ( which it should be dont do ), rather than fork off an xserver |
| 14:35.42 | mallum | bobf: that can be fixed by editing the file |
| 14:36.29 | bobf | that's odd, I can't install the xserver-tinyx-fbdev |
| 14:37.27 | mallum | bobf: whats ipkg say ? |
| 14:37.31 | bobf | I have armv41 and xscale in my ipaqarch.conf, and http://handhelds.org/~mallum/xpkgs in my /etc/gpe.conf |
| 14:37.38 | bobf | ~ # ipkg install xserver-tinyx-fbdev_4.3-11_armv4l-xscale.ipk |
| 14:37.39 | bobf | Cannot find package xserver-tinyx-fbdev. |
| 14:37.39 | bobf | Check the spelling or perhaps run 'ipkg update' |
| 14:37.55 | mallum | bobf: run ipkg with -V 4 to see what its up to |
| 14:39.18 | bobf | adding xserver-tinyx-fbdev to providers |
| 14:39.18 | bobf | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:39.18 | bobf | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:39.19 | bobf | Cannot find package xserver-tinyx-fbdev. |
| 14:40.38 | bobf | ok.. that seems better now - I added armv4l-xscale to /etc/ipkg/ipaqarch.conf |
| 14:40.58 | mallum | bobf: ah cool |
| 14:42.49 | bobf | k, got it installed now |
| 14:43.23 | mallum | cool |
| 14:44.09 | bobf | If I cat /dev/ts, it echoes a "." when I press the touchscreen |
| 14:44.28 | mallum | bobf: thats good |
| 14:46.19 | bobf | ts_raw has my raw touchscreen info, but I should be using /dev/ts like the 3100, 3600, etc? |
| 14:47.25 | mallum | bobf: just try running /usr/X11R6/bin/Xfbdev and see what happens |
| 14:47.59 | mallum | bobf: if it dont work experiment with setting the env vars TS_DEVICE etc |
| 14:48.22 | mallum | bobf: to calibrate run 'ts_calibrate' after you've figured out env vars |
| 14:51.35 | bobf | running Xfbdev starts up X, my ts doesn't work. I'll see what I can do about that |
| 14:53.09 | bobf | Where is it getting device_id from? |
| 14:53.57 | bobf | Oh, it's exec'ing it.. silly me |
| 14:53.58 | mallum | bobf: cat /usr/X11R6/bin/xserver-kdrive-xfbdev |
| 15:28.24 | Speuler | florian: there's suddenly gpsdrive v1.32 ... that's an older version then 2.01 i suppose ? |
| 15:31.54 | florian | Speuler: yep, it is... the package works but has some missing dependencies and needs gtk1. |
| 15:32.28 | Speuler | ah, ok |
| 15:48.04 | florian | Hmm... this OBEX is very very strange... |
| 16:14.31 | pb_ | florian: yeah, I think other people have reported strange behaviour with sending. |
| 16:15.38 | florian | pb_: this is bad... especially because i'm not surer where the problem is located.... |
| 16:16.42 | pb_ | florian: you could try asking some of the opie crew. I think they use IrDA: at least, Max and Oliver often complain that openobex is out of date. |
| 16:17.15 | florian | ibot: seen Harlekin ? |
| 16:17.16 | | florian: i haven't seen 'harlekin ' |
| 16:17.35 | pb_ | heh |
| 16:17.38 | florian | hmm... |
| 16:17.40 | pb_ | ibot, seen harlekin? |
| 16:17.41 | | harlekin <~von@pD9E5FE9A.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #opie, 18h 8m 53s ago, saying: 'moi aussi'. |
| 16:17.56 | florian | me too :-/ |
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| 16:18.02 | pb_ | indeed. |
| 16:18.06 | pb_ | ibot, seen groucho? |
| 16:18.06 | | groucho is currently on #opie (1h 11m 43s) #handhelds.org (1h 11m 43s). Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 1h 11m 40s |
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| 16:57.55 | Speuler | how can i associate program with a datafile, even better, a file type (no magic), with the different file manager available ? |
| 16:58.54 | florian | bbl |
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| 17:51.14 | florian | re |
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| 17:55.50 | florian | pb_: w b |
| 17:56.43 | pb_ | re |
| 17:56.45 | pb_ | just been swapping video cards in my desktop. |
| 18:06.17 | florian | hmmm... my notebook was on ac power the whole day, now battery is at 30%... strange |
| 18:10.22 | nilsf | florian: Which notebook, the Asus? |
| 18:10.57 | florian | nilsf: yep :-/ |
| 18:11.30 | nilsf | Oh no! That could mean that my theory about the bad charging circuit may be true and it is ruining the batteries! |
| 18:12.00 | florian | nilsf: yep, maybe... let me look what acpi says... |
| 18:12.32 | florian | design capacity: 66640 mWh |
| 18:12.32 | florian | last full capacity: 66640 mWh |
| 18:13.47 | florian | this doesn't look correct :-/ |
| 18:15.19 | nilsf | Umm... why not? |
| 18:16.19 | nilsf | Mine is even already less : design capacity: 64400 mWh |
| 18:16.32 | nilsf | That is since my last "calibrate battery" using BIOS. |
| 18:16.45 | nilsf | But this is still more than specified... |
| 18:17.43 | florian | ok, maybe i should calibrate mine too... |
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| 18:21.28 | nilsf | Hmm.... I just disconnected mine and it seems to be OK. Says 2 1/2h runtime. |
| 18:21.52 | nilsf | ...rising :) |
| 18:22.25 | pb_ | Hm, my CD-ROM drive doesn't seem to be detected any more. |
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| 18:23.59 | florian | ok, i forgot both power cables... |
| 18:24.15 | florian | looks like i need a creative idea.... |
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| 18:30.46 | reenoo | hi |
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| 18:32.43 | florian | hi reenoo |
| 18:33.01 | pb_ | that's better. |
| 18:33.08 | florian | Thanks to German army for these nice knives ;-) |
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| 18:35.50 | reenoo | hey florian |
| 18:36.42 | nilsf | pb_: BTW, bad news... the company where we got our SIMpad's from does not have any anymore :( |
| 18:37.00 | reenoo | nilsf: :( |
| 18:37.37 | nilsf | pb_: I'll keep on looking... |
| 18:38.12 | pb_ | nilsf: Darn. |
| 18:38.24 | pb_ | Oh well, thanks for looking! |
| 18:43.36 | nilsf | pb_: Sure! I am quite sure that when also have a SIMpad development could go into a ... let's say ... new direction :) |
| 18:46.32 | Soopaman | how are those simpads? |
| 18:47.35 | pb_ | nilsf: maybe the folks at niedermeyer.at could be persuaded to ship to England. |
| 18:47.54 | nilsf | Soopaman: What you mean by "how"? How they are equipped? |
| 18:48.07 | nilsf | pb_: Maybe, but .at has 20% VAT :( |
| 18:48.15 | pb_ | nilsf: Ah, darn, yes. |
| 18:48.26 | Soopaman | nilsf, in general |
| 18:48.38 | Soopaman | are they nice devices to play with, and functionally use |
| 18:48.52 | nilsf | Definitely nice to play with :) |
| 18:49.15 | nilsf | Use... maybe be later. The big display 800x600@16bpp is quite useful for browsing and reading docs. |
| 18:49.23 | andreas_gi_ | yes have one too sl4, very nice |
| 18:50.18 | andreas_gi_ | from niedermeyer.at , got it last week |
| 18:52.42 | bobf | Wow.. ftp.gnu.org has been "comrpomised" |
| 18:52.46 | florian | andreas_gi_: How much is it there? |
| 18:52.56 | andreas_gi_ | florian: 299 EUR |
| 18:52.57 | florian | bobf: eh? |
| 18:53.28 | pb_ | bobf: heh |
| 18:53.55 | florian | ok, not that much... |
| 18:54.06 | bobf | http://ftp.gnu.org/MISSING-FILES.README |
| 18:54.34 | bobf | A root compromise and a Trojan horse were discovered on gnuftp.gnu.org, |
| 18:54.34 | bobf | the FTP server of the GNU project. The machine appears to have been |
| 18:54.34 | bobf | cracked in March 2003, but we only very recently discovered the crack. |
| 18:56.30 | florian | looks like this happened some time ago... |
| 18:57.13 | bobf | the crack happened in March.. but was unknown until recently |
| 18:58.12 | florian | oh, yes... how nasty! |
| 19:04.42 | andreas_gi_ | ive read on niedermeyer.at they ship only to austria and germany |
| 19:06.55 | florian | :-/ |
| 19:07.06 | pb_ | andreas_gi_: yeah, that's what I saw as well. |
| 19:09.36 | ade|beth2 | pb_ you know you lost your cdrom .. where did it go ? |
| 19:09.54 | pb_ | ade|beth2: oh, it turned out the cable was unplugged at the motherboard end. |
| 19:10.06 | ade|beth2 | ah, cos i've lost mine now |
| 19:10.08 | ade|beth2 | lol |
| 19:10.10 | pb_ | heh |
| 19:10.38 | bobf | pb_: When I run ts_calibrate, I get "ts_open: No such file or directory" |
| 19:11.20 | reenoo | pb_, florian: concerning my question of last night... JFYI this one seems to do the job: http://d-link.com/products/?pid=22 |
| 19:11.23 | pb_ | bobf: sounds like your tslib environment variables aren't set right. |
| 19:11.29 | pb_ | reenoo: cool |
| 19:12.16 | bobf | What are the available settings for TSLIB_TSEVENTTYPE? |
| 19:12.33 | pb_ | bobf: dunno, you might have to check the documentation. |
| 19:12.46 | pb_ | bobf: or ask mallum, who is our resident 1337 tslib h4x0r. |
| 19:13.01 | reenoo | how do you perform a remote root exploit using the ptrace bug? |
| 19:13.06 | ade|beth2 | found it :) |
| 19:13.14 | ade|beth2 | pesky ide-scsi |
| 19:13.17 | florian | reenoo: yeah, looks familiar :-) we have one of these at kc |
| 19:13.39 | pb_ | reenoo: don't think you can. ptrace is a local exploit only, so you'd need some other (non-root) remote exploit first. |
| 19:14.03 | bobf | Oh, I was thinking you were the l33t tslib h4x0r.. but you are indeed correct, it was mallum talking to me about it earlier |
| 19:14.34 | reenoo | pb_: you know that, I know that, but the FSF doesn't seem to want to confess that... because that would probably be their fault |
| 19:14.56 | pb_ | reenoo: aha :-) |
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| 19:16.36 | reenoo | pb_: IIRC there were no (ok, no known) remote exploits without a fix being available at the time of the ptrace bug |
| 19:18.44 | reenoo | and the script-kids-have-fun exploit was i386 only, wasn't it? |
| 19:19.07 | reenoo | s/exploit/exploit for the ptrace bug/ |
| 19:20.52 | florian | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.21515.png |
| 19:21.08 | florian | It slowly becomes an gpe app :-) |
| 19:22.30 | florian | s/an/a |
| 19:23.09 | reenoo | florian: neat |
| 19:28.11 | florian | reenoo: Ole did the most of the work... i just try to compensate his usage of glade ;-) |
| 19:28.28 | reenoo | heh |
| 19:33.59 | florian | yep - at the moment it is not possible to create a gpe app with glade... even worse a gnome hig conform app is not really possible too |
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| 19:39.46 | reenoo | florian: oh |
| 19:40.29 | bobf | florian: How are you moving away from his glade code? |
| 19:44.21 | florian | bobf: i don't do so - i just add some things manually... e.g. bold labels, text scrolled to the correct location...) |
| 19:46.17 | bobf | Oh. How did you port it to gpe then? |
| 19:46.46 | bobf | (Or to arm, however you want to look at it) |
| 19:48.02 | florian | bobf: We use glade to create the source for this applications gui. The app itself is crosscompiled by a hand-written makefile. |
| 19:48.29 | bobf | Mind sharing a copy of the makefile? |
| 19:48.45 | florian | bobf: no, wait... |
| 19:49.04 | bobf | Great |
| 19:50.11 | florian | http://handhelds.org/~florian/Makefile |
| 19:51.12 | florian | bobf: Good idea - this is the correct makefile to start a custom crosscompile makefile for a glade project :-) |
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| 19:51.47 | bobf | *g* Indeed, thanks |
| 19:52.05 | florian | bobf: I compile this with this line: make CC=arm-linux-gcc PREFIX=/usr |
| 19:53.44 | jg_ | pb_: how goes the 54xx touchscreen? |
| 20:03.26 | nilsf | jg_: Good question... I think we'll have a 5550 quite soon :) |
| 20:07.22 | florian | hell! it can't be that hard to scroll to the top of a gtk_text_view?! |
| 20:11.34 | florian | ahh... seems to be necessary to have the widget visible |
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| 20:37.07 | nilsf | tuhl: Hi :) |
| 20:37.31 | nilsf | tuhl: We are asking the guy we know if he has interest in it! |
| 20:38.50 | tuhl | hi! |
| 20:39.02 | tuhl | thanks |
| 20:39.17 | tuhl | I have to eat my pizza now... |
| 20:58.53 | bobf | florian: I (think) I have adapted your makefile properly, but I'm getting this - /skiff/local/arm-linux/bin/gcc -Os -fomit-frame-pointer -Wall -DPACKAGE=\"contrast \" -DPREFIX=\"/usr/local\" -DPACKAGE_LOCALE_DIR=\"/usr/local/share/locale\" -DPACKAGE_DATA_DIR=\"/usr/local/share/\" -DENABLE_NLS -MD `pkg-config --cflags gtk+-2.0` -c -o main.o main.c, and then gcc: cannot specify -o with -c or -S and multiple compilations |
| 20:59.20 | bobf | I don't know where that -c is coming from? |
| 21:00.49 | florian | bobf: really strange... is it set in your CFLAGS einvironment? |
| 21:01.45 | bobf | http://www.daisydata.com/bobf/Makefile |
| 21:05.54 | florian | bobf: looks good... what telly you "echo $CFLAGS"? |
| 21:06.43 | florian | bobf: if you don't use lexx/yacc you may remove this stuff from makefile |
| 21:09.08 | bobf | Odd.. I put in `/bin/echo $CFLAGS` after the last CFLAGS line, and get Makefile:31: *** missing separator. Stop |
| 21:10.19 | florian | eh, try to start it from your shell you start make |
| 21:10.34 | florian | (without adding it to the makefile) |
| 21:10.42 | bobf | just run it after I run make? |
| 21:11.05 | bobf | it doesn't return anything |
| 21:11.29 | florian | strange... |
| 21:12.33 | florian | bobf: add "CFLAGS=-Wall" to the top of the makefile |
| 21:13.26 | bobf | /skiff/local/arm-linux/bin/gcc -Wall -Os -fomit-frame-pointer -DPACKAGE=\"contrast \" -DPREFIX=\"/usr/local\" -DPACKAGE_LOCALE_DIR=\"/usr/local/share/locale\" -DPACKAGE_DATA_DIR=\"/usr/local/share/\" -DENABLE_NLS -MD `pkg-config --cflags gtk+-2.0` -c -o main.o main.c |
| 21:13.26 | bobf | gcc: cannot specify -o with -c or -S and multiple compilations |
| 21:14.55 | bobf | It can't be coming from the CFLAGS anyway, they end with -MD |
| 21:16.01 | florian | hmm no - this comes from make... |
| 21:17.37 | bobf | My build line is: $(CC) -o $@ $^ $(GTKLDFLAGS) $(LDFLAGS) |
| 21:17.45 | bobf | I don't see where it can be getting -c into that though |
| 21:17.52 | florian | arm-linux-gcc -Os -fomit-frame-pointer -Wall -DPACKAGE=\"gpe-wlancfg\" -DPREFIX=\"/usr\" -DPACKAGE_LOCALE_DIR=\"/usr/share/locale\" -DPACKAGE_DATA_DIR=\"/usr/share/\" -DENABLE_NLS -MD `pkg-config --cflags gtk+-2.0` -D_GNU_SOURCE -I../libgpewidget -c -o main.o main.c |
| 21:18.27 | florian | this works... |
| 21:18.44 | bobf | That's odd mine complains about -c somehow |
| 21:21.15 | florian | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:21.29 | florian | you should do before this... |
| 21:22.01 | bobf | Ah! |
| 21:22.12 | florian | or not? |
| 21:22.26 | florian | i'm not sure if this is the issue here... |
| 21:22.27 | bobf | hrm, that didn't help :/ |
| 21:24.36 | bobf | I'll play with it a more, and let you know |
| 21:24.36 | florian | really odd... |
| 21:24.58 | florian | are you using the toolchain you downloaded lately? |
| 21:25.29 | bobf | Yep, the one you recommended yesterday |
| 21:26.22 | bobf | Note that when I just tried to run it unmodified, your Makefile ran and kind of worked.. just didn't work because of libgpewidget errors, it seemed |
| 21:26.38 | florian | hmm... really odd - i never saw this message before... |
| 21:26.41 | bobf | So I'll just work on it some more.. should get it eventually |
| 21:27.14 | florian | bobf: ok, good luck! |
| 21:30.10 | bobf | ooh.. made a little progress. :) |
| 21:31.37 | bobf | got rid of the -c, not sure how though! I just started over from your Makefile and fixed it, *shrug* |
| 21:32.43 | florian | hmm... but in theory this -c is ok... |
| 21:32.56 | bobf | Right, *shrug* :) |
| 21:33.36 | bobf | I just compiled main.c, and it did use -c.. don't know why. /skiff/local/arm-linux/bin/gcc -Os -fomit-frame-pointer -Wall -DPACKAGE=\"contrast\" -DPREFIX=\"/usr/local\" -DPACKAGE_LOCALE_DIR=\"/usr/local/share/locale\" -DPACKAGE_DATA_DIR=\"/usr/local/share/\" -DENABLE_NLS -MD `pkg-config --cflags gtk+-2.0` -c -o main.o main.c |
| 21:33.48 | bobf | Whatever.. |
| 21:35.04 | florian | hmmmm |
| 21:38.29 | florian | night all! |
| 21:38.35 | bobf | Night |
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| 22:17.52 | pigeon | Hmm what would be a sane way to do if I want to write a gpe app which needs to sort of integrate with other gpe apps, like contacts, or mail, etc? |
| 22:18.07 | pigeon | hello mallum |
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| 22:18.54 | mallum | hey pigeon |
| 22:19.50 | mallum | pb_: http://www.cafeshops.com/leuksman.7112875?zoom=yes |
| 22:21.38 | pigeon | mallum: lol |
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