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| 01:33.15 | dc_ | yo dudes :D |
| 01:33.18 | dc_ | weeee |
| 01:34.45 | moray | ah, fun? |
| 01:34.50 | pigeon | way hey |
| 01:35.01 | dc_ | yep |
| 01:35.03 | dc_ | very cool |
| 01:36.13 | dc_ | my friends house is out in the country side, yet he still has adsl...and too many tvs. |
| 01:36.28 | dc_ | and the public baths are only a few minutes away, verrry cool |
| 01:36.39 | pigeon | There's no concept of "too many" in Japan ;) |
| 01:36.48 | dc_ | hehe right |
| 01:37.01 | pigeon | So you got your new toy yet? |
| 01:37.14 | dc_ | tomorrow |
| 01:37.18 | dc_ | hopefully will get my lapto |
| 01:37.20 | dc_ | p |
| 01:37.36 | dc_ | already gone to the local heindo store |
| 01:37.46 | dc_ | very nice, have to get lots of chobits manga dvds |
| 01:37.52 | dc_ | ‚í‚¢‚í‚¢ |
| 01:38.19 | pigeon | Ah sweet. |
| 01:38.42 | dc_ | also working hard on my japanese so I can read heaps of mangas |
| 01:38.49 | dc_ | my friend has a wall full of them |
| 01:38.55 | dc_ | like, atleast 400 |
| 01:38.59 | dc_ | crazy.... |
| 01:39.17 | dc_ | like you said, never too many. |
| 01:39.25 | dc_ | and the food...m... |
| 01:39.50 | dc_ | his mother is a great cook. so I wake up to a full 3 course breakfast every morning |
| 01:39.52 | dc_ | yum! |
| 01:39.55 | pigeon | Hehehe |
| 01:40.06 | pigeon | Gee... |
| 01:40.09 | pigeon | Lucky dc_ |
| 01:40.19 | pigeon | I also want a 3 courses breakfast. |
| 01:40.29 | pigeon | What are they usually? |
| 01:42.05 | dc_ | um, fish, with rice. |
| 01:42.13 | dc_ | and a funky egg omlette. |
| 01:42.20 | dc_ | then miso soup |
| 01:42.30 | dc_ | and salad. |
| 01:42.49 | dc_ | then yogurt and fruit |
| 01:43.20 | dc_ | I've only had two nights here, so there's got to be more to come :D |
| 01:43.22 | pigeon | Ah nice. |
| 01:43.41 | pigeon | Ok, this is it. |
| 01:43.52 | pigeon | I'm having Japanese for lunch and dinner today. |
| 01:43.58 | dc_ | :DDD |
| 01:44.02 | pigeon | :DDDDD |
| 01:44.26 | dc_ | oh, and last night we went to this place where they have this inside style BBQ |
| 01:44.40 | dc_ | in the center of your table, and you cook meat on it, |
| 01:44.51 | dc_ | best food I've had yet, |
| 01:44.57 | dc_ | albeit expensive. |
| 01:45.03 | pigeon | Ah... |
| 01:45.06 | dc_ | (although I didn(t have tp pay for it) |
| 01:45.11 | pigeon | I used to have those, but korean bbq. |
| 01:45.16 | dc_ | doh, this jap kb is funky |
| 01:45.20 | pigeon | Haven't really been to Japanese. |
| 01:45.35 | pigeon | Yeah, I have two jap kbs at home... |
| 01:45.42 | dc_ | :) |
| 01:45.43 | pigeon | Took me a while to get used to it. |
| 01:45.48 | dc_ | and everything is so clean |
| 01:45.55 | dc_ | they're a bit obsessive if anything |
| 01:47.50 | pigeon | So they've got a guest room for you or something? |
| 01:47.59 | dc_ | yep |
| 01:48.10 | dc_ | with a tv..and a wall of mangas |
| 01:48.26 | dc_ | gotta work out this strange wifi they have though |
| 01:48.38 | dc_ | they seem to have an adsl modem, with a wifi AP. |
| 01:49.38 | dc_ | but then instead of it being normal wifi, on each client there is some strange connection program, web cast. |
| 01:49.58 | dc_ | so I guess it just bridges the client to the adsl modem. |
| 01:50.01 | dc_ | like it was usb. |
| 01:50.04 | dc_ | heh. |
| 01:50.14 | dc_ | lets hope there's a mac OS X client or something. |
| 01:51.05 | pigeon | dc_ having a really good time there I imagine :) |
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| 01:55.14 | dc__ | :/ |
| 01:55.40 | dc__ | this adsl isn't any more stable than my connection at home ;/ |
| 02:08.19 | pigeon | lol |
| 02:14.09 | moray | dc__: impressive |
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| 03:38.29 | pigeon | yo pb_! |
| 03:38.39 | pb_ | yo pigeon! |
| 03:38.53 | pigeon | dc_ was on a bit earlier, you've missed him! |
| 03:39.15 | pb_ | pigeon: ah, doh. how's he getting on in Japan? |
| 03:39.24 | pigeon | Very good it seems :) |
| 03:39.44 | pigeon | Getting his new laptop tomorrow, he said. |
| 03:39.46 | pb_ | That's cool. |
| 03:39.59 | pb_ | Things are good here in Canada also. |
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| 03:40.14 | pigeon | Canada? |
| 03:40.32 | pigeon | You're in Canada now? |
| 03:40.39 | pigeon | Hmm lunch time. |
| 03:41.08 | pb_ | Yep, in Ottawa more specifically. |
| 03:41.28 | Justin_ | pb_: this libdm thing looks interesting... can you get apps to use it without recompiling them? |
| 03:42.15 | pb_ | Justin_: No, apps need to be compiled against it. In the future it could be incorporated into libgtk in which case it would work transparently. |
| 03:42.27 | Justin_ | thats what I thought:-/ |
| 03:42.37 | Justin_ | what about sneeking it in with LD_PRELOAD? |
| 03:43.09 | pb_ | Right now, no, because applications need to explicitly register their windows with it. |
| 03:43.46 | Justin_ | so it calls libdm_init and then libdm_mark_window for each window it makes? |
| 03:43.53 | pb_ | right. |
| 03:44.28 | Justin_ | hmm |
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| 03:45.34 | Justin_ | so couldn't you hijack the gtk_window_new stuff to run the normal window function and then call libdm_mark_window on it? :) |
| 03:46.14 | pb_ | Yeah, maybe. |
| 03:46.45 | Justin_ | though I think just sticking it into libgtk properly would be easier |
| 03:47.01 | pb_ | Yes, I agree. |
| 03:47.38 | Justin_ | grep gtk_window_new -r gaim-0.64|wc -l = 20 calls... thats not too bad |
| 03:48.40 | Justin_ | I was wondering how the multiple display support in gtk was supposed to work.. |
| 03:49.09 | Justin_ | so then the 'mt' program would be most likely integrated at the windowmanager level? |
| 04:01.21 | pb_ | Yeah. Well, we have a thing called "teleport" that will do that, but it could go in the WM too. |
| 04:01.47 | Justin_ | :) |
| 04:02.03 | Justin_ | so have you been working with the gtk people to get this included in gtk? |
| 04:03.17 | Justin_ | i've wanted migration for a really long time... with xvfb you could sorta implement a xmove that actually works |
| 04:04.29 | pb_ | I haven't actively been working with the GTK folks. There was some discussion on the xdg-list, but that kind of fizzled out. |
| 04:09.19 | Justin_ | ha! |
| 04:09.21 | Justin_ | it worked! |
| 04:10.48 | pb_ | aha. |
| 04:11.30 | Justin_ | i just added the calls after each gtk_window_new call, added the init in main somewhere, and *poof* it worked:) |
| 04:11.58 | pb_ | Great! |
| 04:12.12 | Justin_ | so from what I gather, adding the libdm_mark_window code to gtk_window_new would do the same thing then? |
| 04:12.31 | pb_ | Yep, should do. |
| 04:12.54 | Justin_ | silly gtk people... |
| 04:13.12 | Justin_ | its had the multiple display ability for so long..and nothing uses it yet |
| 05:26.11 | pigeon | pb_: Ah there's a reason why you're online here at this time now... ;) |
| 05:28.44 | pb_ | pigeon: Heh, right. I return to my usual timezone next Monday. |
| 05:34.51 | pigeon | Ah... so what's up there in Canada? For work? |
| 05:38.28 | pb_ | Yeah, the Ottawa Linux Symposium. |
| 05:39.01 | pigeon | :O |
| 05:39.16 | pigeon | Where exactly is Ottawa btw? |
| 05:40.03 | pb_ | Ontario. Eastern Canada |
| 05:40.17 | pigeon | Oh... east... |
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| 06:36.25 | florian | morning |
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| 09:11.18 | florian | bbl |
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| 10:03.16 | florian | re |
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| 10:53.40 | florian | How is keylaunch started in gpe-login (before login)? |
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| 12:16.10 | florian | mallum: The first test of the split mb* packages looked good - but there are many packages that need to be changed because of bad dependencies... |
| 12:47.36 | mallum | florian: hi |
| 12:47.54 | mallum | florian: ah right, things that are dependant on matchbox ? |
| 13:03.25 | grib | where does gpe store its landscape/portrait prefs? somehow I got stuck in landscape display and the touchscreen doesn't work. |
| 13:07.07 | mallum | grib: you have a term ? |
| 13:07.59 | grib | mallum: yep |
| 13:08.11 | mallum | grib: okey, put 'xrandr -o normal' |
| 13:09.26 | grib | then restart x, or what? |
| 13:09.56 | grib | (that didn't have any visible effect) |
| 13:11.54 | mallum | grib: sounds like x has crashed |
| 13:12.56 | grib | mallum: hm. seems like my ipaq is in trouble... none of the firmware-related stuff works (backlight, sleeve, etc) |
| 13:13.39 | mallum | grib: can you reboot ? |
| 13:14.08 | grib | yeah, I've rebooted several times. it's reproducible :( |
| 13:14.16 | grib | I have had the worst luck with 0.7 |
| 13:14.51 | grib | or rather with unstable. I guess I need to start over again. are folks here actually successfully using the unstable feed? |
| 13:14.58 | mallum | grib: :( what unit is it ? |
| 13:15.13 | grib | non-bluetooth 38xx |
| 13:16.19 | grib | anyway. I'll start from base 0.7 again and see if I can figure out what's going on. thanks. |
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| 13:38.21 | florian | huh? |
| 13:39.19 | mallum- | florian: ? |
| 13:40.03 | florian | mallum-: sorry, i answert in the wrong channel... |
| 13:40.11 | florian | s/t/ed |
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| 13:42.43 | florian | mallum-: There are definitely some packages depending on matchbox... |
| 13:44.46 | mallum- | florian: yeah, shouldn't be too many though ? |
| 13:54.21 | florian | mallum-: I have about ten in my list... |
| 13:54.50 | florian | mallum-: gpe2, gpe-session-scripts |
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| 14:00.24 | mallum- | florian: aha, and a few of them are mive |
| 14:00.55 | mallum- | florian: startup-monitor shouldn't be dependant on anything mb |
| 14:01.36 | florian | malluml-: yes, this seems to be wrong |
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| 14:27.55 | florian | pb_: hi |
| 14:28.03 | pb_ | florian: afternoon |
| 14:28.31 | pb_ | no interesting talks at OLS this morning, so I guess I should try to write some code. |
| 14:28.44 | pb_ | florian: are you still having problems with xkbd not showing up in gpe-login? |
| 14:31.31 | mallum- | hi pb_, what talks were they ? |
| 14:31.33 | florian | pb_: nope, it was my hacked xkbd that did not start if first time started without wm... |
| 14:32.07 | pb_ | florian: aha, right, I will stop worrying about that then. |
| 14:32.28 | pb_ | mallum: hi. the schedule is on the web at www.linuxsymposium.org if you want to check it out. |
| 14:32.34 | florian | pb_: i did the same and stared waiting for mallums new package :-) |
| 14:33.01 | pb_ | florian: :-) |
| 14:33.34 | florian | Not that irda works on my notebook... i'll look at gpe-beam. |
| 14:35.26 | mallum- | pb_: did you catch tim rikers talk ? |
| 14:35.50 | pb_ | mallum-: no. has that happened already? I didn't notice it on the schedule. |
| 14:37.35 | mallum- | pb_: yeah wed afternoon by the looks of it |
| 14:37.45 | mallum- | pb_: I dont see cworths talk listed |
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| 15:38.17 | pb_ | re |
| 15:38.58 | florian | mallum-: What's the size of pixmaps for a dockapp on an iPAQ? |
| 15:39.06 | florian | pb_: wb |
| 15:39.47 | mallum- | florian: 16x16, though if possible you should make 48x48 versions too for bigger panels |
| 15:40.04 | pb_ | florian: re |
| 15:45.13 | florian | mallum-: I have two pics... 16x16 - they look absolutely bad in mbdock... i have no idea why. looks like they were scaled down :-/ |
| 15:45.55 | mallum- | florian: what app is using the picts ? |
| 15:48.13 | florian | mallum-: gpe-beam |
| 15:48.50 | florian | mallum-: It uses mostly the code rom gpe-bluetooth... it looks ok with the bluetooth icon. |
| 15:49.18 | mallum- | florian: is that using the gpe panel code ? |
| 15:50.34 | florian | mallum-: i'm not shure... but i think i found it: gtk_widget_shape_combine_mask |
| 15:50.54 | florian | mallum-: it used an offset... which seems to be a bad idea |
| 15:51.15 | mallum- | screen #0: |
| 15:51.15 | mallum- | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:51.17 | mallum- | :-) |
| 15:53.13 | florian | waaa! |
| 15:53.20 | florian | what's this?! |
| 15:56.37 | mallum- | florian: my desktop machine |
| 15:57.09 | florian | mallum-: hmmm... two screens? |
| 15:57.12 | mallum- | florian: yeah shaped stuff will look crappy - it wont get AA'd to the panel |
| 15:57.15 | mallum- | florian: 3 :-) |
| 15:58.07 | florian | mallum-: cool... especiall if you have 3 of the same type :-) |
| 15:58.20 | mallum- | florian: yeah 3 sharp tft's |
| 15:58.37 | florian | mallum-: cool! |
| 15:58.40 | mallum- | florian: I've onl;y just started using it properly |
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| 16:16.47 | fishy | mallum: nice setup |
| 16:23.10 | florian | 16:22:57.840252 xid:cmd ffffffff < acfa6c18 S=6 s=* ipaq hint=0400 [ Computer ] (20) |
| 16:23.23 | mallum- | fishy: unfortunatly it has some problems :/ |
| 16:23.45 | mallum- | fishy: not X related, but crappy kernel stuff |
| 16:36.59 | fishy | like what? |
| 16:37.38 | mallum- | fishy: acpi crap, usb keyboard not getting released by bios etc |
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| 16:58.23 | dc_ | yo |
| 16:59.56 | mallum- | dc_: go away, your on holiday |
| 17:00.24 | mallum- | dc_: ;-) |
| 17:00.34 | dc_ | hehee |
| 17:00.49 | dc_ | the food here is amazing ;-P |
| 17:02.10 | mallum- | sushi ? |
| 17:02.52 | dc_ | actualy, not yet. |
| 17:03.04 | dc_ | miso soup, fish, funky omlettes |
| 17:03.40 | dc_ | all great though |
| 17:03.53 | dc_ | and strangely enough they have adsl. |
| 17:03.58 | dc_ | out in the middle of no where. |
| 17:04.18 | mallum- | cool |
| 17:05.33 | dc_ | 37 all together |
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| 17:13.24 | florian | hi dc_ |
| 17:14.35 | pb_ | re |
| 17:15.48 | dc_ | hey pb_! |
| 17:16.11 | pb_ | dc_: yo! how's Japan? |
| 17:16.18 | dc_ | great |
| 17:16.23 | dc_ | very good food |
| 17:16.52 | dc_ | and I'm getting my laptop on sat. |
| 17:17.27 | pb_ | sounds cool. |
| 17:17.50 | pb_ | Canada is good too, though the conference hasn't been all that exciting. |
| 17:18.04 | dc_ | heh |
| 17:19.26 | pb_ | been working on code most of the morning. I think there's a talk at 1:30 that might be worth listening to. |
| 17:20.24 | pb_ | doh, I just broke the bluetooth dongle on my laptop. |
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| 17:27.31 | dc__ | doh |
| 17:27.35 | dc__ | this wifi adsl is dodgy |
| 17:27.36 | florian | bbl |
| 17:27.46 | pb_ | dc__: doh. connection problems dog you even on another continent! |
| 17:27.59 | pb_ | not that I can talk, the wifi here is a paragon of flakiness. |
| 17:28.02 | dc__ | it seems so! |
| 17:28.08 | dc__ | hehe |
| 17:28.22 | dc__ | hrm... |
| 17:29.29 | dc__ | japanese are stange,,, |
| 17:29.32 | pb_ | heh |
| 17:29.39 | pb_ | rubber casing sounds a bit indigestible. |
| 17:29.46 | pb_ | they must have strong constitutions over there. |
| 17:31.17 | dc__ | indeed, hhehee |
| 17:31.26 | dc__ | oh god, but the public baths are great. |
| 17:31.28 | dc__ | veyr cool. |
| 17:31.34 | dc__ | and only about 2 minutes away, |
| 17:33.11 | pb_ | bbl, talk is starting. |
| 17:33.23 | dc__ | right |
| 17:33.24 | dc__ | enojy |
| 17:34.27 | nelson | pb_: you don't go to conferences for the conference. You go for the people... |
| 17:34.32 | nelson | .... and the parties, of course. |
| 17:35.42 | nelson | grib: unstable *ought* to be mostly 0.7. |
| 17:35.46 | nelson | mostly, anyway. |
| 17:37.52 | grib | nelson: yabbut anything called "unstable" has a magnetic attraction for me :) |
| 17:38.08 | nelson | ibot: seen mallum? |
| 17:38.09 | | mallum is currently on #familiar (9h 53s) #gpe (9h 53s) #elinux (9h 53s) #handhelds.org (9h 53s). Has said a total of 62 messages. Is idling for 4h 23m 11s |
| 17:38.13 | nelson | ibot: seen mallum-? |
| 17:38.13 | | mallum- is currently on #gpe (4h 4m 31s) #elinux (4h 4m 31s) #handhelds.org (4h 4m 31s). Has said a total of 56 messages. Is idling for 33m 55s |
| 17:38.30 | nelson | mallum-: are you running matchbox on your desktop? |
| 17:38.56 | grib | nelson: anyway I figured out my problem was mostly with ipkg; it's verrry sensitive to cruft from failed installs in the /usr/lib/ipkg/status file. i found that removing status-file sections for problem packages fixed all my problems. |
| 17:54.01 | mallum- | nelson: no I run metacity on my desktop/laptop |
| 17:54.19 | mallum- | nelson: I do however run matchbox on my mediabox connected to TV |
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| 18:08.21 | fishy | Mallum: whats the URL to your Zaurus rom? |
| 18:10.46 | mallum- | fishy: http://handhelds.org/~mallum/xpkgs/corgi |
| 18:11.06 | fishy | danke :) |
| 18:11.30 | fishy | collie tho ;) |
| 18:13.41 | mallum- | ah yes |
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| 18:43.26 | reenoo | hi |
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| 19:01.03 | reenoo | florian: wb |
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| 19:41.07 | florian | pb_: Do you know what we can do with irda before it starts to consume power? |
| 19:42.03 | pb_ | florian: I'm not sure what you mean. |
| 19:42.04 | florian | I try to find out which tasks can be done on system startup and wich have to be done when the user wants to use irda... |
| 19:42.16 | pb_ | Oh, I see. IrDA will start to consume power when you bring the device up. |
| 19:42.37 | florian | pb_: loading modules, irattach, switching discovery mode on... |
| 19:43.10 | pb_ | oh, is irattach still needed? if so, that'd be the time when power starts being used. |
| 19:43.19 | florian | ah, ok.. great - then the module is a thing i don't need to care about... |
| 19:43.51 | florian | ehh... let me try - i'm not really ues to irda... |
| 19:44.21 | reenoo | florian: where did you get those simpads from btw? |
| 19:46.01 | florian | reenoo: I don't know... Nils ordered these... maybe drop him a mail - or ask me tomorrow :-) |
| 19:46.20 | reenoo | hehehe |
| 19:47.00 | pb_ | florian: my recollection was that for FIR you just did modprobe sa1100_ir; ifconfig irda0 up, and the latter was what switched on the hardware. |
| 19:47.07 | pb_ | loading the modules shouldn't be a problem, anyway |
| 19:48.04 | florian | pb_: ok, great... i'm thinking about a solution for these nasty thing that need a suid root process |
| 19:48.53 | reenoo | florian: sudo? |
| 19:50.06 | florian | reenoo: it's maybe a solution - but at the moment we don't have it in our image. |
| 19:50.31 | florian | how is sudo configured? |
| 19:50.37 | reenoo | ah ok |
| 19:50.53 | florian | but we have a more or less working simpad image :-) |
| 19:51.39 | pb_ | great! |
| 19:52.18 | reenoo | florian: configuration file /etc/sudoers... basically you can specify what users are allowed to do this or that from the one or the other host etc. |
| 19:52.58 | florian | Some things are still buggy, button handling on the simpad is not very useful e.g. |
| 19:53.34 | florian | reenoo: ok, this would make some more intelligent install scripts necessary... |
| 19:54.13 | reenoo | florian: probably |
| 19:54.57 | florian | For gpe-beam i cold create a very small suid app that starts/stops irda |
| 19:56.05 | reenoo | florian: sure... for a small, single purpose app suid is ok |
| 19:56.34 | reenoo | but not for things like cdrecord/mkisofs or emerge/apt-get ;) |
| 19:57.09 | florian | eh yes, really |
| 19:59.57 | reenoo | http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/31938.html |
| 20:00.01 | reenoo | oh well :( |
| 20:02.44 | florian | yeah, really annoying :-/ |
| 20:05.27 | florian | what makes gpe-beam search for an icon in /usr/share/gpe/pixmaps/default?? |
| 20:05.43 | mallum | florian: crack cocaine ? |
| 20:07.49 | florian | mallum: yeah, something like that... i fear ;-) |
| 20:10.53 | mallum | florian: I cleaned up the mbdesktop module api |
| 20:11.02 | mallum | florian: Im quite pleased with it now :-) |
| 20:12.18 | florian | mallum: Sounds like matchbox becomes a more and more nifty toy :-) |
| 20:12.58 | mallum | florian: it not so useful for gpe, but its cool on the mediabox |
| 20:13.23 | mallum | florian: I have a plugin that lets you browse oggs,divxs etc from mbdesktop |
| 20:14.12 | florian | mallum: What do you think? Could you re-package the tslib Xserver for familiar? |
| 20:14.57 | florian | mallum: hey, why not? would be cool for people using their ipaq for a mobile music center...! |
| 20:15.22 | florian | mallum: maybe this would be an idea for an alternate file manager :-) |
| 20:16.58 | mallum | florian: I think pb_ is doing something with tslib and X for familiar :-) |
| 20:17.48 | mallum | florian: yeah its more a filebrowser than a manager currently |
| 20:17.54 | florian | mallum: this would be nice to have - would make familiar much more portable |
| 20:21.25 | mallum | florian: the xserver ? |
| 20:23.01 | florian | mallum: yep |
| 20:23.36 | florian | mallum: but file managing capabilities would be nice too |
| 20:24.20 | mallum | florian: what happened to dc's file manager ? |
| 20:26.51 | florian | mallum: Well... it browses some files, but afaik not much more - someone would have to work on it... |
| 20:27.14 | pb_ | I think dc_ was planning to work on it from the comfort of his Japanese residence. |
| 20:27.38 | florian | hell! i can't find why gpe-beam doesn't want the pixmaps in /usr/share/pixmaps! |
| 20:28.10 | florian | pb_: Ah, cool... |
| 20:28.31 | mallum | florian: I think it would be too hard to write a nice filemanager in just xlib :/ |
| 20:29.09 | florian | mallum: eh yes - definitely not a nice job :-/ |
| 20:34.45 | florian | reenoo: huh? a problem with startup notofocation? |
| 20:35.11 | florian | s/notofocation/notification |
| 20:35.18 | reenoo | florian: maybe... I don't know |
| 20:35.34 | florian | reenoo: Have an example? |
| 20:35.51 | reenoo | totem |
| 20:37.32 | florian | reenoo: what's this? |
| 20:38.52 | reenoo | gnome2 media player (using xine) |
| 20:39.57 | florian | reenoo: try to switch off startup notification in it's .desktop |
| 20:44.46 | reenoo | still segfaults |
| 20:46.52 | florian | hmm... i remember a similar problem some time ago... this was with an app that opened a window that was closed again very fast... |
| 20:49.42 | reenoo | works fine from the "application starter" (correct me if that's wrong) btw |
| 20:51.10 | mallum | reenoo: I think the new totem is bust anyway |
| 20:51.20 | mallum | reenoo: what version ? |
| 20:51.34 | mallum | reenoo: can you start it from the command line ? |
| 20:52.10 | reenoo | 0.96.0 |
| 20:52.23 | reenoo | yes no problem from an xterm |
| 20:52.42 | mallum | reenoo: wierd, and its only totem ? |
| 20:54.12 | reenoo | totem and eog so far |
| 20:54.50 | reenoo | that is... I can reproduce it with totem and eog |
| 20:56.28 | mallum | whats eog ? is that a gtk2 app ? |
| 20:57.31 | reenoo | eye of gnome - gnome2 image viewer |
| 20:58.29 | reenoo | anyways... matchbox rocks... it's absolutely amazing how 800x600 can be "just right" (TM) again :) |
| 20:59.01 | mallum | reenoo: thanks :-) glad you like it |
| 20:59.16 | mallum | reenoo: what version of startup-notification libs do you have ? |
| 21:02.36 | reenoo | 0.5 |
| 21:03.25 | mallum | reenoo: hmm same as me |
| 21:03.48 | mallum | reenoo: very odd :/ |
| 21:04.46 | mallum | okey g'night |
| 22:03.13 | florian | night |
| 22:05.42 | mallum | gnight |
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