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| 11:04.49 | PaxAnima | morning |
| 11:05.10 | PaxAnima | fixed the cut'n'paste bug in psCalc2 ;) |
| 11:05.19 | pb_ | great. |
| 11:05.24 | PaxAnima | hackish as a very warm place ;) |
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| 12:27.03 | pb_ | dc_: afternoon |
| 12:27.30 | dc_ | hey |
| 12:28.18 | dc_ | pb_: get gpe installed? |
| 12:28.46 | pb_ | dc_: haven't tried yet, actually. |
| 12:28.54 | pb_ | I'll probably leave the c750 alone until I get back from Canada now. |
| 12:28.56 | dc_ | doh |
| 12:28.56 | dc_ | hehe |
| 12:29.00 | dc_ | doh. |
| 12:29.09 | pb_ | heh |
| 12:29.17 | dc_ | oh, gpe screenshots page is nice. |
| 12:29.18 | pb_ | did you get gpe running ok on your c700? |
| 12:29.29 | pb_ | after your login problems yesterday |
| 12:29.58 | pb_ | yeah, Owen made that screenshots page. it's kind of cool. |
| 12:29.59 | dc_ | still have the login problems...have some time to run through it? |
| 12:30.15 | pb_ | sure |
| 12:30.43 | dc_ | who wrote this app, heh. |
| 12:30.49 | dc_ | who did make gpe-shopping lsit then? |
| 12:30.56 | pb_ | no idea. |
| 12:31.03 | pb_ | that's one of the enduring mysteries. |
| 12:31.09 | dc_ | is it in cvs? |
| 12:31.14 | pb_ | don't think so |
| 12:31.22 | dc_ | scarrrry |
| 12:31.57 | dc_ | okay so. |
| 12:32.53 | pb_ | so, you fixed the permissions on /dev/null? |
| 12:33.02 | dc_ | yes |
| 12:33.10 | dc_ | looking at the gpe-login project page... |
| 12:33.13 | pb_ | does running Xsession as a user work now? |
| 12:33.57 | dc_ | so I run /etc/X11/X as root |
| 12:34.20 | pb_ | yep |
| 12:34.26 | dc_ | starts fine |
| 12:34.38 | dc_ | then if I su dctanner |
| 12:36.29 | dc_ | barf. lot wifi to the c700 |
| 12:36.35 | dc_ | and hence my ssh |
| 12:36.38 | pb_ | suck |
| 12:38.46 | dc_ | okay...X.. |
| 12:38.57 | dc_ | then su dctanner |
| 12:39.07 | dc_ | then /etc/X11/Xsession |
| 12:39.23 | pb_ | yep |
| 12:39.33 | dc_ | oh doh. the /dev/null permissions have reset. |
| 12:39.50 | pb_ | doh! |
| 12:40.06 | pb_ | maybe need to put something in /etc/X11/Xinit.d to straighten them out. |
| 12:40.10 | dc_ | right, export DISPLAY=:0 |
| 12:40.42 | dc_ | all is happy |
| 12:40.46 | dc_ | I can start gpe-today fine |
| 12:40.52 | dc_ | and matchbox is working fine. |
| 12:41.05 | pb_ | cool |
| 12:41.27 | dc_ | so I kill X. |
| 12:41.32 | dc_ | then try gpe-dm -n |
| 12:41.43 | dc_ | gpe-login is okay. |
| 12:41.50 | dc_ | password typed in |
| 12:42.08 | dc_ | then mbdesktop appears. |
| 12:42.21 | dc_ | no mbdock or matchbox (as the X cursor stays as the default X). |
| 12:42.44 | dc_ | then a second or so after mbdesktop appears, it throws me back to gpe-login |
| 12:42.56 | pb_ | mm, sounds like matchbox is crashing for some reason. |
| 12:42.58 | dc_ | this time thoguh, all the gtk stuff is blueish |
| 12:43.07 | pb_ | when matchbox quits it will terminate the session. |
| 12:43.25 | dc_ | oh right. then gpe-login is set the transparent? |
| 12:43.30 | pb_ | yeah |
| 12:43.34 | dc_ | heh |
| 12:44.11 | pb_ | can you paste the contents of /etc/X11/X? |
| 12:44.22 | dc_ | right |
| 12:47.58 | dc_ | pb_: although X seems to be starting fine :-\ |
| 12:48.14 | pb_ | yeah, that looks ok. |
| 12:48.42 | pb_ | okay, try this: kill gpe-dm and any other X processes that might be hanging around. run /etc/X11/X as root, then run /etc/X11/Xinit, also as root. |
| 12:50.00 | dc_ | gpe-login dislays |
| 12:51.32 | dc_ | heh |
| 12:51.34 | pb_ | are you able to log in? |
| 12:51.34 | dc_ | login works fine |
| 12:52.38 | pb_ | and matchbox works? |
| 12:52.42 | dc_ | yep |
| 12:52.52 | pb_ | interesting |
| 12:53.03 | pb_ | can you paste the output of ps? |
| 12:55.17 | pb_ | that all looks fine too. very strange. |
| 12:55.23 | pb_ | must be some obscure bug in gpe-dm itself, I suppose. |
| 12:56.18 | dc_ | heeh |
| 12:58.15 | pb_ | I've no idea what it could be though. |
| 12:58.53 | pb_ | gpe-dm code is very simple. |
| 13:00.33 | dc_ | well. I've got. |
| 13:00.40 | dc_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:00.41 | dc_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:00.51 | dc_ | in the /etc/init.d/gpe-dm script, and it works fine. |
| 13:00.56 | pb_ | right |
| 13:01.29 | pb_ | that's almost exactly what gpe-dm does, except without the sleep. |
| 13:01.38 | pb_ | and it passes :0 -noreset as arguments to /etc/X11/X. |
| 13:01.59 | dc_ | hehh |
| 13:02.44 | pb_ | oh, and it clears out the environment, but that shouldn't be upsetting matchbox. |
| 13:05.19 | pb_ | very weird. oh well, I guess you should stick with your shell script for now. |
| 13:05.33 | pb_ | I'll try to debug gpe-dm when I get gpe running on my 750. |
| 13:06.24 | dc_ | okay |
| 13:06.27 | dc_ | oh and...hrm |
| 13:06.48 | dc_ | # gpe-aerial |
| 13:06.48 | dc_ | Error init db: unable to open database: /home/dctanner/.gpe/netdb |
| 13:06.53 | dc_ | what should be making the db? |
| 13:07.08 | pb_ | gpe-aerial itself. do you have a ~/.gpe directory? |
| 13:08.22 | dc_ | -rw-r--r-- 1 500 500 550 Jan 2 1970 .ash_history |
| 13:08.23 | dc_ | drwxr-xr-x 2 500 500 0 Jan 1 1970 .fonts |
| 13:08.23 | dc_ | -rw-r--r-- 1 500 500 0 Jan 1 1970 .fonts.cache-1 |
| 13:08.23 | dc_ | drwx--T--- 2 500 500 0 Jan 1 1970 .gpe |
| 13:08.24 | dc_ | strange. |
| 13:08.29 | dc_ | oh, but gpe-aerial is cool |
| 13:08.52 | pb_ | yeah, it rules |
| 13:09.05 | pb_ | I should install it on my laptop as well |
| 13:09.31 | dc_ | seems like gpe has better configuration tools then any desktop distros have. |
| 13:09.51 | pb_ | heh, quite |
| 13:10.34 | pb_ | doh, modutils in debian doesn't work with kernel 2.5 |
| 13:11.37 | dc_ | heh |
| 13:11.39 | dc_ | oh dear.. |
| 13:11.47 | dc_ | I think I've lost control of my c700 |
| 13:11.52 | pb_ | ! |
| 13:11.56 | dc_ | it's gone off the network. and rxvt won't work. |
| 13:12.10 | pb_ | oh dear. |
| 13:12.26 | dc_ | hrm |
| 13:12.29 | dc_ | and gpe-edit won't start. |
| 13:14.14 | pb_ | aha |
| 13:14.18 | pb_ | apt-get install module-init-tools |
| 13:14.20 | pb_ | seems to help |
| 13:14.35 | dc_ | right.. he |
| 13:17.16 | pb_ | oh dear, the DRM module on my ibook is out of control. |
| 13:17.32 | pb_ | not having much luck here |
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| 13:40.40 | dc_ | hey um. |
| 13:40.47 | dc_ | what's that input dockapp called/ |
| 13:41.00 | dc_ | that will select either xstroke or xkbd? |
| 13:41.01 | pb_ | mbinputmgr? |
| 13:41.09 | dc_ | right |
| 13:41.13 | pb_ | I should add that to gpe2 |
| 13:41.15 | dc_ | cool |
| 13:41.23 | dc_ | indeed. |
| 13:42.22 | pb_ | right, done |
| 13:42.52 | dc_ | how do I make it detect xstroke? |
| 13:43.01 | pb_ | mm, not sure |
| 13:43.01 | dc_ | oh right |
| 13:43.05 | dc_ | intall xstroke! |
| 13:43.05 | pb_ | I haven't actually used it myself |
| 13:43.08 | pb_ | ah! |
| 13:43.08 | pb_ | heh |
| 13:43.34 | pb_ | mm, xstroke should have been installed already. gpe2 depends on it. |
| 13:44.11 | dc_ | my gpe2 install didn't work |
| 13:44.15 | pb_ | ah |
| 13:44.16 | dc_ | it only downloaded the gams |
| 13:44.19 | dc_ | games. |
| 13:44.21 | pb_ | doh |
| 13:44.44 | pb_ | could try ipkg remove gpe-apps2; ipkg install gpe-apps2 |
| 13:44.48 | pb_ | sometimes that helps, |
| 13:44.55 | pb_ | s/,/./ |
| 13:48.47 | dc_ | sheesh that was close. |
| 13:48.55 | dc_ | using a pen on my screen! |
| 13:49.31 | pb_ | permanent marker? |
| 13:49.40 | pb_ | bad idea. |
| 13:49.40 | dc_ | biro |
| 13:49.48 | pb_ | ah, still not the smartest. |
| 13:50.03 | pb_ | pencil normally seems to work ok :-) |
| 13:50.31 | dc_ | my stylus is now a converted pen |
| 13:50.39 | dc_ | so it's easy to pick up the wrong one |
| 13:50.47 | pb_ | ah, I see |
| 13:58.11 | dc_ | right. |
| 13:58.28 | dc_ | it'd be nice to fix a few on these screen size problems the apps have before I leave. |
| 13:58.33 | dc_ | i.e. gpe-sketchboox |
| 13:58.56 | pb_ | right |
| 13:59.01 | pb_ | shouldn't be that hard to do. |
| 13:59.29 | dc_ | it could just get the amout of space the drawing area viewport is allocated right? |
| 13:59.49 | pb_ | yeah, could well be |
| 14:01.28 | dc_ | oh doh, xst problem again. |
| 14:01.47 | dc_ | where does gpe-login or whatever read the settings from? |
| 14:01.55 | pb_ | which settings? |
| 14:02.30 | dc_ | the xst one. |
| 14:02.37 | dc_ | I know about /etc/gpe/xsettings.default |
| 14:02.45 | dc_ | doh...my FN key isn't working. |
| 14:02.52 | pb_ | your user settings are in ~/.gpe/xsettings, I think. |
| 14:02.55 | pb_ | something like that. |
| 14:02.58 | dc_ | right |
| 14:03.00 | pb_ | check that gpe-confd is running |
| 14:05.33 | dc_ | ooh. |
| 14:05.39 | dc_ | fileselect is fixed. |
| 14:06.32 | pb_ | aha |
| 14:07.04 | dc_ | and Ctrl+C closes my rxvt window for some reason |
| 14:17.51 | PaxAnima | any suggestion for improvements in psCalc2? |
| 14:19.19 | dc_ | it already rocks |
| 14:19.20 | dc_ | :) |
| 14:19.24 | PaxAnima | ;) |
| 14:20.12 | PaxAnima | maybe I'll just leave it with the bug fixes and create an ipkg ;) |
| 14:22.54 | PaxAnima | don't like it when I call functions and varaibles i_feel_dirty ;) |
| 14:25.04 | PaxAnima | got one in gpe-irc as well |
| 14:26.42 | dc_ | hehe |
| 14:28.40 | PaxAnima | what was the option for setting correct owner information with ipkg-build? |
| 14:31.49 | PaxAnima | yay... ipkg uploaded ;) |
| 14:31.59 | PaxAnima | dc_: care to test it? don't have my ipaq here |
| 14:33.01 | dc_ | PaxAnima: um sure, in unstable? |
| 14:33.11 | PaxAnima | yup |
| 14:33.58 | dc_ | let me ipkg update |
| 14:35.22 | PaxAnima | the fixes are a window icon, "Advanced calculator" as window title and fixed cut'n'paste handling... when copying text, e.g. readonly or bold, the tags should be removed when pasting it |
| 14:35.48 | dc_ | cool |
| 14:41.06 | PaxAnima | got to eat.. bbl |
| 14:51.15 | dc_ | PaxAnima: leet :D |
| 14:51.25 | pb_ | any luck with sketchbook? |
| 14:51.42 | dc_ | havn't tried yet. still got some php to finish. |
| 14:51.44 | pb_ | aha |
| 14:51.57 | dc_ | I'll hopefully finish in several hours. |
| 14:52.06 | pb_ | heh, right. |
| 14:52.17 | PaxAnima | dc_: cool ;) |
| 14:53.23 | pb_ | dc_: oh, actually, I could use some php help with the gpe.handhelds.org site if you have a spare minute. |
| 14:53.44 | dc_ | pb_: well yeah. what's up? |
| 14:53.44 | pb_ | my php knowledge is sadly lacking. |
| 14:54.09 | dc_ | pb_: geeklog? |
| 14:54.30 | pb_ | dc_: take a look at includes/menu.php in the gpe website tree |
| 14:54.58 | pb_ | the "if" bit inside menu_entry() is supposed to make the menu link inactive for the currently selected page. |
| 14:55.22 | pb_ | however, it seems that $pagename is always empty when that code executes, so the if never triggers. |
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| 14:55.47 | pb_ | it's meant to be set at the top of (e.g.) index.php |
| 14:56.18 | dc_ | sorry, go agains |
| 14:56.20 | dc_ | *again |
| 14:56.38 | pb_ | heh |
| 14:56.43 | pb_ | how much of that did you get? |
| 14:56.51 | pb_ | <pb_> dc_: take a look at includes/menu.php in the gpe website tree |
| 14:56.52 | pb_ | <pb_> the "if" bit inside menu_entry() is supposed to make the menu link inactive for the currently selected page. |
| 14:56.52 | pb_ | <pb_> however, it seems that $pagename is always empty when that code executes, so the if never triggers. |
| 14:56.57 | pb_ | <pb_> it's meant to be set at the top of (e.g.) index.php |
| 14:57.26 | pb_ | so, apparently the value is not propagating correctly to the included file, or the function in that file. I don't have a clue why not though. |
| 14:57.54 | dc_ | I've noticed that global variables won't continue inside seperate functions. |
| 14:58.07 | dc_ | so if that's the problem. you'll need to pass the page name into the function. |
| 14:58.14 | pb_ | ah, ok. |
| 14:58.34 | pb_ | let me try that |
| 15:01.07 | pb_ | aha |
| 15:01.08 | pb_ | works! |
| 15:01.33 | pb_ | dc_: thanks :-) |
| 15:03.21 | dc_ | :} |
| 15:03.45 | pb_ | now I can convert all the rest of the SSI stuff to php |
| 15:03.56 | dc_ | next it'll be the world. |
| 15:03.56 | dc_ | pb_: ;) |
| 15:05.03 | pb_ | dc_: the original reason for doing all of this was that the geeklog news bit can only really be done in php, and apache (at least as configured on handhelds.org) won't let you invoke php from inside a shtml file. |
| 15:05.24 | dc_ | ah right |
| 15:05.38 | pb_ | but, well, php seems like a better technology anyway, so I figure I may as well get rid of all the ssi. |
| 15:09.31 | dc_ | indeed, php is nice, and easy. |
| 15:14.30 | PaxAnima | hmm.. any need for a timer app for gpe? or maybe there is one already? |
| 15:14.46 | dc_ | stopwatch? |
| 15:15.53 | PaxAnima | maybe? |
| 15:16.05 | dc_ | that would be usefull |
| 15:16.18 | pb_ | yes, good thinking. |
| 15:16.27 | pb_ | could maybe be part of gpe-clock. |
| 15:16.57 | dc_ | we do need more of those silly but usefull apps that opie has ended up with |
| 15:17.34 | PaxAnima | dc_: such as ? |
| 15:17.54 | dc_ | a stopwatch. global time. |
| 15:18.15 | PaxAnima | ah |
| 15:18.38 | pb_ | yeah |
| 15:18.40 | dc_ | hehe |
| 15:21.52 | pb_ | oh dear |
| 15:22.00 | pb_ | I think I might have bitten off more than I can chew here. |
| 15:22.16 | pb_ | just noticed all the .shtml files in the projects directory! |
| 15:23.24 | PaxAnima | pb_: is it difficult to attach serial apps to the serial port of the ipaq? is there a lot of work to create a cable for it? |
| 15:23.55 | pb_ | no, not especially. |
| 15:23.55 | PaxAnima | apps = equipment |
| 15:24.15 | PaxAnima | is there a premade adapter for this sort of thing? |
| 15:24.24 | pb_ | you can buy ipaq connectors from foxconn, though it is probably easier to buy a standard sync cable and cut it down. |
| 15:25.12 | PaxAnima | any schematics for the wires? |
| 15:25.31 | *** join/#gpe dc_ (~dctanner@212.110.252.2) |
| 15:28.42 | pb_ | dunno, maybe look on www.handhelds.org |
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| 15:33.17 | pb_ | right |
| 15:33.20 | pb_ | that's enough web changes for one day. |
| 15:33.28 | dc_ | :} |
| 15:33.28 | dc_ | hehe |
| 15:33.36 | dc_ | poor pb_ |
| 15:33.50 | pb_ | heh |
| 15:34.01 | pb_ | time to go mow the lawn |
| 15:34.37 | dc_ | ah-ha |
| 15:34.38 | dc_ | enjoy |
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| 17:29.44 | pb_ | hrm |
| 17:30.01 | dc_ | heh |
| 17:30.30 | pb_ | of course, first I have to build the new matchbox, which involves the purely nominal half-hour pitched battle with autotools |
| 17:31.45 | dc_ | a hright |
| 17:31.51 | dc_ | sounds fun? |
| 17:31.52 | dc_ | ! |
| 17:31.59 | dc_ | mmm.. |
| 17:32.11 | dc_ | soon I will have a 1.5mb/s downlink |
| 17:32.11 | pb_ | actually, it seems to be going surprisingly well. |
| 17:32.14 | dc_ | and 256kb/s up |
| 17:32.18 | dc_ | :))) |
| 17:32.21 | pb_ | cool, that sounds nice |
| 17:32.28 | pb_ | how come? |
| 17:33.13 | dc_ | we're going to get wireless broadband in our town, and a 512/256 link is only ?15 a month |
| 17:33.21 | dc_ | less than our dialup |
| 17:33.29 | pb_ | oh right, wow |
| 17:33.29 | dc_ | so we'll have that, and satellite for half a year. |
| 17:33.58 | pb_ | that's a lot cheaper than broadband is here. |
| 17:34.06 | dc_ | indeed. |
| 17:34.10 | dc_ | it's very supprising |
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| 19:15.44 | skaag | hi mallum |
| 19:15.46 | skaag | wossup? |
| 19:15.55 | mallum | hello skaag |
| 19:16.00 | mallum | skaag: notalot |
| 19:16.05 | skaag | :-) |
| 19:16.06 | skaag | same here |
| 19:16.08 | skaag | bored to death |
| 19:16.18 | skaag | just setup /mnt/nvrd |
| 19:16.20 | skaag | neat thing |
| 19:16.32 | skaag | and about to update my kitchensync |
| 19:16.44 | mallum | skaag: is that like a software suspend thing ? |
| 19:16.58 | skaag | it's a nonvolatile ramdisk |
| 19:17.09 | skaag | I have 64mb of ram which was mostly unused |
| 19:17.29 | skaag | I left 40mb as ram, and 22mb as additional space |
| 19:17.32 | mallum | run mino |
| 19:17.33 | skaag | was running out... |
| 19:17.35 | skaag | mino? |
| 19:17.48 | mallum | minimo on it, that'll use it some |
| 19:18.02 | mallum | my cat is half laying on the keyboard |
| 19:18.16 | mallum | if I try and move him he'll take my arm off |
| 19:18.18 | PaxAnima | can the cat type? ;) |
| 19:18.24 | mallum | return I think |
| 19:18.30 | PaxAnima | ah |
| 19:18.31 | skaag | hehe |
| 19:18.40 | skaag | I know EXACTLY what you mean man |
| 19:19.00 | skaag | but usually they love laying on top of the monitor don't they? |
| 19:19.12 | skaag | I used to be annoyed with their tail |
| 19:19.20 | skaag | would be covering exactly the stuff I was trying to read |
| 19:19.24 | mallum | yeah |
| 19:19.30 | skaag | buggers are here on earth to annoy us humans |
| 19:19.36 | mallum | are house is pretty much run by animals |
| 19:19.39 | skaag | and yet we love them |
| 19:19.45 | skaag | :-) |
| 19:19.50 | skaag | heh |
| 19:20.34 | PaxAnima | any suggestions for a fun app to do for the ipaq? |
| 19:21.17 | pb_ | email? maybe not all that much fun though. |
| 19:23.35 | skaag | I don't know how to make use of my new partition now |
| 19:23.46 | skaag | how to combine it with my fs so that it would be used |
| 19:25.38 | PaxAnima | email is not fun, just work ;) |
| 19:26.27 | PaxAnima | I want to do a game, but not sure of how I want it to be... something new and origianal would be fun |
| 19:27.12 | PaxAnima | original |
| 19:28.05 | pb_ | aha |
| 19:28.17 | mallum | PaxAnima: multisync plugin |
| 19:28.40 | PaxAnima | mallum: said _fun_ ;) besides, I don't know anything of how the data is stored |
| 19:29.21 | skaag | PaxAnima: let's make a multiplayer game |
| 19:29.33 | PaxAnima | but getting vcard and ical/vcal support is needed for a multisync plugin |
| 19:29.37 | mallum | PaxAnima: oh, ah yes, I thought someone was gonna document it :/ |
| 19:29.41 | PaxAnima | skaag: sure, any ideas? |
| 19:29.50 | skaag | yep |
| 19:29.56 | Skaag | too many ideas |
| 19:30.19 | Skaag | we make objects that consist of two classes that define properties/events/methods |
| 19:30.28 | Skaag | one private, one public |
| 19:30.43 | Skaag | the public one can be used by some python script which is also attached to the file |
| 19:30.53 | Skaag | we can then create objects that can behave |
| 19:31.01 | Skaag | then we create some huge DOM |
| 19:31.07 | PaxAnima | DOM? |
| 19:31.13 | Skaag | Document Object Model |
| 19:31.14 | Skaag | a tree |
| 19:31.20 | PaxAnima | ah |
| 19:31.22 | Skaag | then add a permissions layer on it |
| 19:31.25 | Skaag | and connect it to the net |
| 19:31.36 | Skaag | this would allow people to exchange objects (if allowed) |
| 19:31.43 | Skaag | of course you also need a world |
| 19:31.48 | PaxAnima | sounds like too much planning and design ;) |
| 19:31.52 | Skaag | nah |
| 19:31.56 | Skaag | quite simple really |
| 19:32.04 | Skaag | the ingenuity here is that people can make objects |
| 19:32.06 | Skaag | and trade them |
| 19:32.17 | Skaag | in a 2d/3d world |
| 19:32.27 | Skaag | some of the objects may be smart enough to do special things |
| 19:32.42 | Skaag | like help you protect yourself from enemies |
| 19:32.54 | Skaag | I have enough servers to hold a persistant world |
| 19:32.59 | PaxAnima | sounds very abstract |
| 19:33.12 | Skaag | well, naturally it would be some Dungeons & Dragons thing |
| 19:33.20 | Skaag | was just describing the underlying infrastructure |
| 19:33.28 | PaxAnima | ah |
| 19:33.39 | Skaag | We could make a DiscWorld based world |
| 19:33.41 | Skaag | that would be fun |
| 19:33.44 | Skaag | (Terry Pratchett) |
| 19:34.03 | PaxAnima | haven't read any discworld... |
| 19:34.11 | Skaag | You should, fun reading! |
| 19:34.20 | Skaag | I'm reading "Thief of time" right now, amazing book! |
| 19:34.45 | Skaag | Think Tolkien, with Douglas Adams humor |
| 19:34.56 | PaxAnima | I have access to most books in the series through friends ;) |
| 19:35.02 | Skaag | get them |
| 19:35.04 | Skaag | :) |
| 19:35.12 | Skaag | I'm slowly buying them all |
| 19:35.13 | Skaag | nobody I know has any |
| 19:35.19 | PaxAnima | just about finished Dirk Gently by Adams |
| 19:35.20 | Skaag | hurray Israel... |
| 19:35.27 | Skaag | Ah, great great books :) |
| 19:35.37 | PaxAnima | yup |
| 19:35.50 | Skaag | which one did you just finish? |
| 19:35.58 | Skaag | The long dark tea time of the soul? |
| 19:36.25 | PaxAnima | both |
| 19:36.35 | Skaag | cool |
| 19:36.46 | PaxAnima | well, finished the first one, 60 pages left of the last one |
| 19:37.16 | Skaag | I love the part where Dirk and his cleaner both put a hair on the fridge to see who will open it first |
| 19:37.21 | Skaag | ;-) |
| 19:37.26 | PaxAnima | yeah ;) |
| 19:37.47 | Skaag | Something like that actually happened to me a few years before reading the book, with my brother |
| 19:37.50 | Skaag | so it was really funny |
| 19:38.19 | Skaag | Except i used a piece of paper, and my bro used a piece of tape |
| 19:38.42 | PaxAnima | Adams had a very good and special sense of humour... |
| 19:38.46 | PaxAnima | ;) |
| 19:39.03 | PaxAnima | like the sofa i the first dirk gently book.. |
| 19:39.25 | Skaag | yah |
| 19:39.29 | Skaag | very funny |
| 19:39.42 | PaxAnima | who else would come up with such a silly thing? ;) |
| 19:39.53 | Skaag | I loved the part where he makes a software to try and rotate the sofa to all possible angles |
| 19:40.03 | Skaag | on his mac |
| 19:40.17 | Skaag | and it can't find a solution to get the sofa out of there |
| 19:40.30 | PaxAnima | yeah... a lot of computer related humour in the books |
| 19:40.41 | Skaag | yah. have you read Salmon of Doubt? |
| 19:40.54 | PaxAnima | I got it, but I though I'd read dirk gently first |
| 19:41.04 | PaxAnima | read most of the short stories, though |
| 19:41.06 | Skaag | yes read it last |
| 19:41.45 | Skaag | from that book, you understand Adams' connection with PC's |
| 19:42.54 | Skaag | anyway our game can have no graphics at first |
| 19:43.00 | Skaag | kinda like the first MUDs |
| 19:43.06 | Skaag | or it could |
| 19:44.54 | PaxAnima | I don't want to do a complicated game... something really simple and smart was more what I was thinking of... some of the most adictive games are based on very simple ideas |
| 19:48.25 | Skaag | like Tetris |
| 19:48.33 | Skaag | make a "Bejeweled" clone |
| 19:48.35 | Skaag | I heard it's a hit |
| 19:49.50 | PaxAnima | not a clone, something new, more or less |
| 19:51.00 | PaxAnima | guess most simple and fun concepts are taken |
| 19:51.07 | pb_ | heh, indeed |
| 19:53.23 | Skaag | of course they are |
| 19:55.28 | PaxAnima | I want to prove you wrong ;) |
| 19:55.59 | Skaag | I think I have a concept that was not yet implemented |
| 19:56.25 | Skaag | you have a grid with spots from which a virus (SARS?) is starting to spread |
| 19:56.33 | Skaag | you need to take measures to block it |
| 19:56.42 | Skaag | the more advanced the levels, the more spots on the grid |
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| 19:57.25 | Skaag | your job is to stop the virus from spreading, naturally, but some additional goals could be added |
| 19:57.37 | PaxAnima | heh |
| 20:00.14 | mallum | flypiper: hmm, odd. never had that from a kernel build before |
| 20:05.45 | PaxAnima | a game for the ipaq designed to be used with a touchscreen would be nice.. |
| 20:19.09 | Skaag | what package do I need to play the vmemo recordings? |
| 20:19.18 | Skaag | I installed mediaplayer but it does not come with a codec for it |
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| 21:36.43 | dc_ | hum |
| 21:36.45 | dc_ | okay. irda time. |
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