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| 00:01.46 | dc_ | heh |
| 00:01.47 | dc_ | having a fun ride here. |
| 00:01.55 | dc_ | heh, mallum's gone now :-\ |
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| 01:10.24 | dc_ | moray: you must be awake |
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| 01:31.25 | __moray_ | dc_: yeah, of course |
| 01:32.17 | dc_ | ;) |
| 01:32.30 | __moray_ | though I think I'm trying to go to bed now |
| 01:32.49 | __moray_ | (in London, meant to be getting up in the morning to do something with my brother I think) |
| 01:33.53 | dc_ | doh |
| 01:33.53 | dc_ | ! |
| 01:34.15 | __moray_ | been up to much yourself? |
| 01:37.37 | dc_ | working!! |
| 01:37.38 | dc_ | php weeeeee |
| 01:37.39 | dc_ | money |
| 01:37.46 | dc_ | I'm getting a new 15" powerbook |
| 01:37.53 | dc_ | before I goto japan on holiday for a month :D |
| 01:37.55 | __moray_ | ah right, sounds nice |
| 01:37.59 | dc_ | tokyo, kyoto :D |
| 01:38.00 | __moray_ | (both things) |
| 01:38.00 | dc_ | weeeee |
| 01:38.02 | __moray_ | ok |
| 01:38.03 | dc_ | sure will be |
| 01:38.23 | __moray_ | I have been to Japan, but only when I was 5 to 6 years old... |
| 01:38.50 | __moray_ | I should probably go back sometime (and e.g. stay with people we know in Tokyo) |
| 01:38.53 | __moray_ | not this year though ;) |
| 01:39.44 | dc_ | hehe |
| 01:39.48 | dc_ | mallum's going |
| 01:39.56 | __moray_ | yes, true... |
| 01:39.56 | dc_ | but he's arriving just as I leave :-\ |
| 01:40.09 | __moray_ | yes, I suppose he should have planned that better ;) |
| 01:40.26 | dc_ | quite right! |
| 01:40.30 | dc_ | hrm |
| 01:40.55 | dc_ | how does one set the default selected item in a html form select box.. |
| 01:40.56 | dc_ | :-\ |
| 01:41.02 | dc_ | ah wait |
| 01:41.08 | dc_ | just being stupid |
| 01:41.21 | __moray_ | right ;) |
| 01:41.43 | dc_ | or maybe not |
| 01:41.44 | dc_ | heh |
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| 01:43.47 | dc_ | moray: any ideas? |
| 01:45.28 | dc_ | bah |
| 01:45.39 | __moray_ | <option value="foo" selected> ? |
| 01:45.49 | dc_ | it sucks having to wade through rivers of docs just for sily small things. |
| 01:45.51 | dc_ | right! |
| 01:45.54 | dc_ | let see |
| 01:45.57 | __moray_ | try that, anyway |
| 01:46.17 | __moray_ | (<option value="foo" selected>foo</option>, obviously) |
| 01:46.19 | dc_ | bah, that sucks code wise. |
| 01:46.30 | __moray_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:46.30 | __moray_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:46.41 | __moray_ | from old Perl of mine... |
| 01:46.46 | dc_ | hehe |
| 01:47.20 | dc_ | I guess I should put the country list into a mysql table |
| 01:47.23 | dc_ | heh |
| 01:48.04 | dc_ | you don't happen to have one ;) |
| 01:48.08 | __moray_ | (the code was like that so that you called something like selectoption ($optiontoadd, $selectedoption) |
| 01:48.08 | dc_ | heh, n/m |
| 01:48.38 | __moray_ | anyway, as I said, I should probably go bedwards |
| 01:48.40 | __moray_ | night dc_ |
| 01:48.52 | dc_ | right |
| 01:48.54 | dc_ | night night |
| 01:48.54 | dc_ | :} |
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| 12:53.10 | pb_ | hi mibus |
| 12:53.23 | mibus | 'lo all |
| 12:53.28 | mibus | checked out those games yet? |
| 12:53.35 | mibus | i've been doing a little gpe-pegged hacking |
| 12:53.39 | pb_ | ah, no, not actually. |
| 12:53.42 | pb_ | cool |
| 12:53.44 | mibus | not enough time tho, exams have been chewing up too much :( |
| 12:53.58 | mibus | yeah i've made the "selected peg" just a big version of the normal peg |
| 12:54.02 | mibus | and re-done all of the XPMs |
| 12:54.09 | mibus | so it looks like it's been lifted from the board |
| 12:54.15 | mibus | there's some dodgy clipping going on though |
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| 12:58.26 | dc_ | morning :D |
| 12:58.36 | mibus | 'NIGHT dc :P |
| 12:58.43 | mibus | hows things? |
| 12:58.44 | dc_ | :-p |
| 12:58.56 | dc_ | good, I was up till 7am today |
| 12:58.58 | dc_ | :-\ |
| 12:59.41 | mibus | LOL |
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| 12:59.46 | mibus | i got up at 7 today :-) |
| 12:59.50 | pb_ | dc_: yo |
| 12:59.59 | dc_ | hehe |
| 13:00.01 | dc_ | hey pb_ |
| 13:00.17 | dc_ | well, the good news is, in that sleepless night, I'm now 2/3 done with my work. |
| 13:00.20 | dc_ | well...the first one. |
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| 13:00.57 | pb_ | dc_: and the bad news is that your irc connection won't stay open for more than 30 seconds at a time? |
| 13:01.08 | dc_ | quite so |
| 13:01.32 | mibus | pb_: what work is he talking about? |
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| 13:01.45 | pb_ | mibus: he got a job doing some web stuff, I think |
| 13:01.55 | pb_ | php, that kind of thing. |
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| 13:02.21 | dc_ | heh. |
| 13:02.23 | dc_ | mibus: yep. php work :-\ |
| 13:02.27 | pb_ | heh |
| 13:02.41 | dc_ | pb_: I've decided I'm getting the 15" powerbook :} |
| 13:02.49 | pb_ | dc_: ah, cool |
| 13:02.49 | dc_ | only because the samsung laptops break all to easily |
| 13:03.06 | pb_ | ah yes. bearing in mind your ibook experiences, that might not be so good. |
| 13:03.18 | dc_ | quite so :-\ |
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| 13:03.52 | dc_ | the price difference in the USA compared to here are amazing, it's alsmost £400 cheaper in the us |
| 13:03.54 | dc_ | s/us/USA |
| 13:04.14 | pb_ | dc_: yeah, that's always the way. the price in £ here tends to be the same number as the price in $ in the US. |
| 13:04.19 | mibus | dc_: we have the same $$ issue |
| 13:04.39 | mibus | dc_: the US$ has slid badly, but Apple isn't changing their prices |
| 13:04.45 | dc_ | it pretty mad. |
| 13:04.55 | dc_ | 's |
| 13:05.02 | mibus | dc_: i just got a job doing php work too about 3 months ago! :-) |
| 13:05.04 | pb_ | yep. best book a holiday to the US and buy one while you can. |
| 13:05.13 | mibus | i did http://gnomononline.com :-) |
| 13:05.19 | mibus | awesome stuff :) |
| 13:05.29 | mibus | i redid my hh.org page in CSS |
| 13:05.31 | mibus | looked awesome |
| 13:05.36 | mibus | then i checked it in safari :-S |
| 13:05.43 | mibus | so now its a simpler version |
| 13:05.46 | mibus | but very cool |
| 13:05.48 | mibus | :) |
| 13:05.48 | dc_ | hehe |
| 13:06.00 | mibus | dc_: download my games and run them already :-P |
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| 13:06.51 | dc_ | very slick |
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| 13:08.21 | mibus | what is WRONG with your client?? |
| 13:08.23 | mibus | argh |
| 13:08.24 | mibus | :S |
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| 13:08.38 | mibus | what is WRONG with your client?? |
| 13:08.46 | mibus | MSN isnt that flakey :P |
| 13:09.11 | dc_ | it's my satellite proxy. |
| 13:09.24 | dc_ | and the ckouds overhead :-\ |
| 13:09.41 | pb_ | suck |
| 13:10.00 | mibus | satellite? |
| 13:10.05 | mibus | you have a satellite connection!? |
| 13:10.06 | mibus | sucker! |
| 13:10.08 | mibus | :-P |
| 13:10.13 | dc_ | hehe |
| 13:10.18 | dc_ | 1MB/s |
| 13:10.18 | dc_ | :D |
| 13:10.24 | mibus | bah |
| 13:10.30 | mibus | i'm gonna apply for ADSL next week |
| 13:10.36 | mibus | i SO hope I can get it! :-) |
| 13:10.47 | dc_ | weeeee |
| 13:10.48 | dc_ | yeah |
| 13:10.50 | dc_ | that sounds cool |
| 13:11.36 | mibus | whats ur upstream speed? |
| 13:11.48 | dc_ | we don't talk about that |
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| 13:12.27 | dc_ | heh, it's modem |
| 13:12.33 | mibus | bummer |
| 13:12.39 | dc_ | indeed. |
| 13:12.40 | mibus | i really wanna play with VoIP |
| 13:12.42 | mibus | at least a little |
| 13:12.57 | dc_ | although...we're considering getting another modem :-\ |
| 13:12.58 | mibus | :-) |
| 13:13.03 | mibus | :) |
| 13:13.04 | dc_ | voip sounds cool. |
| 13:13.06 | dc_ | mibus: :) |
| 13:13.13 | mibus | :) |
| 13:13.14 | dc_ | mibus: got an airport now ;) |
| 13:13.17 | mibus | cool |
| 13:13.27 | mibus | i got me a linksys WAP a coupla months ago |
| 13:13.29 | mibus | very awesome |
| 13:13.33 | dc_ | yay |
| 13:13.34 | mibus | hence, loungeroom :-) |
| 13:13.35 | dc_ | so have I |
| 13:13.40 | dc_ | indeed. |
| 13:13.43 | mibus | hm |
| 13:13.54 | dc_ | hopefully it's not in your caged room |
| 13:13.56 | mibus | wanna be dangerous and try to voip now? |
| 13:14.06 | mibus | caged room? |
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| 13:14.19 | mibus | wanna be dangerous and try to voip now? |
| 13:14.22 | mibus | caged room? |
| 13:14.42 | dc_ | or maybe it was that sucky ap we has last time ;} |
| 13:15.00 | pb_ | heh |
| 13:15.15 | mibus | oh! |
| 13:15.16 | mibus | hah |
| 13:15.16 | pb_ | I didn't realise mibus lived in a cage. |
| 13:15.19 | mibus | sucky AP |
| 13:15.23 | dc_ | hah |
| 13:15.25 | mibus | pb_: not on thursdays |
| 13:15.27 | mibus | ;-) |
| 13:15.29 | mibus | nah |
| 13:15.32 | pb_ | mibus: aha |
| 13:15.36 | dc_ | hehe |
| 13:15.37 | mibus | we've bought two of these linksys APs for work |
| 13:15.42 | mibus | and i have one for myself at home |
| 13:15.43 | pb_ | thursday is your day in the padded room, right? |
| 13:15.47 | mibus | it will cover my whole house |
| 13:15.51 | mibus | pb_: how did you know??? |
| 13:15.52 | dc_ | :) |
| 13:15.52 | mibus | :-) |
| 13:15.55 | mibus | so yeah |
| 13:15.59 | dc_ | mine hardly does :-\ |
| 13:16.01 | mibus | the real bitch of it is; |
| 13:16.15 | pb_ | dc_: get a smaller house |
| 13:16.16 | dc_ | I think my wifi pci cards lack any arialness |
| 13:16.20 | dc_ | sssssh |
| 13:16.21 | mibus | the original firmware didn't like apple gear, ~5hrs of light use and the AP crashed :'( |
| 13:16.31 | mibus | pb_: heh |
| 13:16.34 | dc_ | heh! |
| 13:16.37 | mibus | dc_: so wanna try voip now anyway? |
| 13:16.40 | mibus | gnome-meeting? |
| 13:16.53 | mibus | ROTF |
| 13:17.11 | dc_ | oh, for, f-hmf..sake |
| 13:17.22 | dc_ | mdk control center won't startup anymore. |
| 13:17.24 | dc_ | hopeless |
| 13:17.26 | mibus | LOL |
| 13:17.29 | mibus | f-mhf? |
| 13:17.30 | pb_ | hah |
| 13:17.51 | pb_ | mibus: hm, maybe I have gnomemeeting here. not sure it will go through my firewall though. |
| 13:18.11 | mibus | i'll go grab my mike :-) |
| 13:18.14 | dc_ | does it have proxy support? |
| 13:18.42 | dc_ | right, just installing |
| 13:19.38 | dc_ | omfg. currupt packages. |
| 13:19.39 | pb_ | it'd be cool to have gnomemeeting working. maybe we could use it for the handhelds conference calls then. |
| 13:19.40 | dc_ | this is lame |
| 13:19.42 | pb_ | dc_: lose. |
| 13:19.46 | mibus | of course now i have to work out if alsa works properly :-S |
| 13:20.37 | dc_ | pb_: is the debian gnome2 stable now? |
| 13:22.04 | pb_ | dc_: not sure, I'm still on garnome. but moray seemed to think the packages in debian were working well. |
| 13:22.43 | dc_ | bahh...I don't want to have to reconfigure an installation toady...do I? |
| 13:22.44 | pb_ | dc_: maybe this weekend I will have the courage to go back to debian gnome. I keep intending to. |
| 13:22.54 | mibus | dc_: did you ever see the adapter i use to plug my mike into my PC? |
| 13:23.03 | mibus | pb_: i am, all is pretty good |
| 13:23.09 | dc_ | mibus: um....no. |
| 13:23.11 | pb_ | ah right |
| 13:23.22 | mibus | dc_: well the mike is proper "amp" type plug-wise |
| 13:23.27 | mibus | dc_: ie. massive |
| 13:23.35 | mibus | dc_: so my "converter" to go to 3.5mm |
| 13:23.42 | mibus | dc_: is some loose wires :-S |
| 13:23.43 | mibus | :) |
| 13:23.50 | dc_ | hehe |
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| 13:24.32 | mibus | ok, mike in & firewall down |
| 13:24.36 | pb_ | mibus: you know you can buy 0.25" -> 3.5mm adapters for about $1, right? |
| 13:24.44 | mibus | addr:211.26.48.185 |
| 13:24.50 | mibus | pb_: yeah i keep forgetting :-S |
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| 13:25.47 | mibus | ok i have inbound open and ready |
| 13:25.51 | mibus | no video tho |
| 13:25.58 | mibus | usbcam is a) dodgy and b) in the other room |
| 13:26.08 | mibus | ...and c), a waste of bandwidth :-S |
| 13:27.01 | pb_ | gnomemeeting is h323, right? |
| 13:27.05 | mibus | yup |
| 13:27.12 | dc_ | heh latestes I have is debian 2.0 from nov 2002 |
| 13:27.14 | pb_ | let me see if I can configure my firewall to NAT that. |
| 13:27.25 | mibus | LOL |
| 13:27.28 | mibus | my firewall IS my pc |
| 13:27.32 | dc_ | better than nothing |
| 13:27.33 | pb_ | dc_: with your 1337 satellite downlink a netinst should hold no fear |
| 13:27.43 | mibus | so "adjusting my firewall" -> iptables -P INPUT ACCEPT |
| 13:27.44 | mibus | :-) |
| 13:27.47 | dc_ | true. |
| 13:27.57 | mibus | pb_: as long as the modem can sustain the SYN packet ;-) |
| 13:27.59 | pb_ | mibus: ah, heh. my PC is behind NAT, so it is a bit more complex. |
| 13:28.12 | dc_ | well, I have some time to do this. |
| 13:28.15 | mibus | pb_: my ipaq and laptop get NATted tho :) |
| 13:28.21 | dc_ | as I was woking pretty early today :} |
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| 13:28.42 | mibus | dc_: it's l33t BTW :P |
| 13:28.59 | dc_ | hrm |
| 13:29.03 | dc_ | I guess I want a testing netinst |
| 13:29.25 | mibus | wow, new gnomemeetings have a lot more codecs than old ones :-) |
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| 13:29.34 | pb_ | dc_: testing installer is still a bit flaky. I just use woody and then apt-get dist-upgrade afterwards. |
| 13:29.51 | dc_ | ah okay |
| 13:29.57 | dc_ | heh, I might as well use the dvd then |
| 13:30.11 | mibus | dc_: you have it on dvd? bastard :-P |
| 13:30.16 | dc_ | as I'm going to have to apt-get upgrade either way |
| 13:30.21 | dc_ | mibus: linux format. |
| 13:30.26 | pb_ | dc_: oh yeah, true |
| 13:30.27 | mibus | ah |
| 13:30.28 | dc_ | mibus: they do double sided dvds now :) |
| 13:30.32 | mibus | bugger! |
| 13:30.37 | mibus | i have like three DVD-ROMs |
| 13:30.55 | dc_ | last month has mdk9.1 and slack9.0 |
| 13:31.04 | dc_ | although they don't do much demian :-\ |
| 13:31.07 | dc_ | or redhat :-\ |
| 13:31.31 | pb_ | hm/ |
| 13:32.21 | pb_ | crumbs, and my firewall is still on 2.4.18. |
| 13:32.42 | dc_ | heh |
| 13:32.55 | mibus | oooh! |
| 13:33.01 | pb_ | that version doesn't seem to be able to NAT h323. |
| 13:33.25 | mibus | the big reason i'm on 2.4.21 is ALSA didn't like my soundcard, and a kernel upgrade + new alsa patch, fixed it |
| 13:33.28 | mibus | now i have 5.1 :-) |
| 13:33.35 | mibus | (unless i have the mike plugged in :) |
| 13:33.46 | pb_ | let me see what our office firewall is running. maybe I can use that one instead. |
| 13:33.53 | mibus | gawd |
| 13:33.54 | mibus | what a mess |
| 13:34.00 | mibus | all this to do some VoIP |
| 13:34.05 | mibus | no wonder people don't use it much! :-D |
| 13:34.16 | dc_ | heh, running out of space for all my movies :-\ |
| 13:34.19 | pb_ | oh, hm, don't know the password for that one. looks like I lose. |
| 13:34.22 | mibus | dc_: do you remember we said we'd do this back when you were over here? |
| 13:34.26 | mibus | pb_: awww :( |
| 13:34.32 | mibus | pb_: i'll have to "make do" with dc_ then ;-) |
| 13:34.52 | pb_ | mibus: yeah. looks like I need to do some upgrades first. |
| 13:34.58 | mibus | pb_: ah well :) |
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| 13:35.07 | mibus | pb_: i wouldnt want to waste too much of your time :-P |
| 13:35.11 | pb_ | heh |
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| 13:36.39 | mibus | pb_: besides don't you have paid work to do? :-P |
| 13:37.27 | pb_ | mibus: yes, in fact I'm doing some at the moment. |
| 13:37.40 | mibus | cool :) |
| 13:37.54 | pb_ | today I also need to finish building a new mail server. |
| 13:37.55 | mibus | so get back to it and stop dorking to l4m3r5 on IRC! :-P :-D |
| 13:38.12 | pb_ | mibus: well, I can do both at once. |
| 13:38.16 | mibus | LOL @ dc_ ! :-) |
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| 13:38.28 | mibus | dude, get a real connection |
| 13:38.33 | mibus | or, maybe, real weather :-P |
| 13:38.42 | mibus | actually, i'm jealous... the weather was warm and sunny today :-S |
| 13:38.44 | mibus | ;-) |
| 13:38.55 | pb_ | heh |
| 13:39.30 | pb_ | hm, just noticed that my builders have stacked about a thousand bricks in my neighbour's back garden. |
| 13:39.36 | pb_ | let's hope he doesn't take offence at that. |
| 13:39.50 | mibus | pb_: builders? |
| 13:40.02 | pb_ | mibus: people who make buildings |
| 13:40.10 | mibus | pb_: duh :-P |
| 13:40.27 | mibus | pb_: what are they doing? (and don't say "making buildings" or i will have to hurt you! :-) |
| 13:40.53 | pb_ | mibus: constructing a new garage/workshop. |
| 13:41.53 | mibus | pb_: cool. got a nice car? |
| 13:42.05 | mibus | pb_: mine sucks, as dc_ has mentioned :-) |
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| 13:42.13 | mibus | pb_: but, it goes from A to B, etc. etc. :-) |
| 13:42.22 | mibus | dc_: hows ur install going? |
| 13:43.29 | dc_ | not started yet |
| 13:43.43 | pb_ | mibus: I have a Mazda Miata, though realistically I doubt it will actually live in the garage much. |
| 13:43.46 | mibus | if i had my lappy here now i'd install ophoneX or whatever it's called and talk to myself :-S |
| 13:43.54 | mibus | dc_: slacker! |
| 13:44.07 | mibus | dc_, pb_: so i'm thinking "not today" eh? :-P |
| 13:44.15 | pb_ | mibus: yah :-/ |
| 13:44.23 | pb_ | mibus: we can try again next week sometime. |
| 13:44.30 | pb_ | I'll try to get my shit together. |
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| 13:44.59 | pb_ | I wonder what version h323 nat was added in. |
| 13:45.58 | mibus | pb_: kernel? |
| 13:46.13 | mibus | pb_: its probably a module anyway... |
| 13:46.50 | pb_ | yeah, but I have modules turned off on the firewall kernel. |
| 13:47.03 | pb_ | and in any case, network modules tend not to be portable across versions. |
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| 13:47.17 | mibus | 2.4.21 doesnt have h323 netfilter modules |
| 13:47.21 | mibus | maybe you need gateway software? |
| 13:47.30 | pb_ | oh, hm. |
| 13:49.04 | pb_ | yeah, I could set up a proxy outside the firewall if that would help. |
| 13:49.05 | *** join/#gpe dc_ (~dctanner@212.110.252.2) |
| 13:49.59 | mibus | pb_: given i'm the one that wants to play, i'm checking out gnome-meeting.org for you :-) |
| 13:50.12 | pb_ | cool :-) |
| 13:50.13 | pb_ | <Kero> can somebody ban dc_ until he has his connection fixed? It's annoying... |
| 13:50.14 | pb_ | heh |
| 13:51.13 | mibus | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:51.13 | mibus | 1720 (however, you will need GnomeMeeting 0.94 or newer). Notice that you have to specify the IP of your router in the preferences in the section "H.323 Advanced Settings" and to enable IP Translation. |
| 13:51.23 | mibus | ie. forward the port (if you can) |
| 13:51.26 | *** join/#gpe dc_ (~dctanner@212.110.252.1) |
| 13:52.02 | mibus | but you cant, you dont have the passwd |
| 13:52.03 | mibus | hm |
| 13:52.12 | pb_ | oh, I can port-forward on my own firewall no problem. |
| 13:52.22 | pb_ | it's just the one at the office that I can't get into. |
| 13:52.39 | mibus | oh ok |
| 13:52.40 | mibus | cool |
| 13:52.48 | mibus | or you can install the "gnu gatekeeper (gnugk)" |
| 13:52.55 | mibus | but that sounds like _more_ work :-S |
| 13:53.00 | pb_ | heh |
| 13:53.04 | pb_ | ok |
| 13:53.05 | mibus | http://www.gnomemeeting.org/index.php?rub=3&pos=0&faqpage=x269.html |
| 13:53.23 | mibus | http://www.gnugk.org/h323develop.html |
| 13:55.13 | pb_ | let's try that. |
| 13:55.18 | pb_ | if I drop off the net suddenly, you know why. |
| 13:55.54 | mibus | LOL |
| 13:56.03 | mibus | thankyou :) |
| 13:59.02 | pb_ | still there? |
| 13:59.17 | mibus | yup |
| 13:59.20 | pb_ | phew |
| 13:59.27 | mibus | work? |
| 13:59.30 | mibus | addr:211.26.48.185 |
| 13:59.34 | *** join/#gpe dc_ (~dctanner@212.110.252.2) |
| 13:59.38 | pb_ | well, I installed the iptables rules. |
| 13:59.42 | pb_ | trying to set up gnomemeeting now. |
| 14:00.08 | mibus | cool :-) |
| 14:00.17 | mibus | as soon as you get it working it'll be bed time for me though :-D |
| 14:00.25 | mibus | (heh i'll stay up, no more Uni :-) |
| 14:00.37 | pb_ | do I just put your IP address as a callto url? |
| 14:00.59 | mibus | yup |
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| 14:01.00 | mibus | connected |
| 14:01.06 | pb_ | ok, now I need to go find a microphone. |
| 14:01.23 | pb_ | I'm not hearing anything from your end though |
| 14:01.54 | mibus | bugger |
| 14:02.01 | mibus | static even? |
| 14:02.03 | mibus | my end is flooded with it :-S |
| 14:02.12 | pb_ | nope, not really. |
| 14:02.19 | pb_ | did you do the "audio test" in gnomemeeting? |
| 14:02.43 | mibus | my packets might be getting lost |
| 14:02.53 | mibus | upstream isnt so good with the sort of downstream i'm seeing :-S |
| 14:03.10 | mibus | uh no good point |
| 14:03.12 | mibus | not for a long time |
| 14:03.14 | pb_ | ah |
| 14:04.30 | pb_ | I'm still having some trouble finding a microphone, though I did track down a webcam. |
| 14:05.10 | mibus | works fine |
| 14:05.18 | mibus | you got speakers plugged in? |
| 14:05.20 | mibus | (just checking!) |
| 14:05.23 | pb_ | yes :-) |
| 14:06.21 | mibus | hm |
| 14:06.23 | mibus | found ur mike? |
| 14:08.20 | mibus | i'm limiting my codecs to speex-narrow-8k |
| 14:08.25 | mibus | modems = slow :( |
| 14:09.57 | mibus | well everything tests out fine here |
| 14:09.57 | pb_ | no, still no mic. bit baffled by that. |
| 14:10.05 | mibus | your end is "bad" :-P |
| 14:10.07 | mibus | oh well |
| 14:10.11 | mibus | webcam on, try again :-) |
| 14:11.03 | pb_ | not seeing any video either. |
| 14:11.13 | mibus | no no i dont have a webcam on |
| 14:11.17 | mibus | i meant you put YOURS on |
| 14:11.19 | pb_ | oh, sorry. |
| 14:11.23 | pb_ | heh |
| 14:11.23 | mibus | :-P |
| 14:11.47 | mibus | damn the "ring" for GM is ANNOYING :-@ |
| 14:11.48 | mibus | :-) |
| 14:11.49 | pb_ | it'll probably take me a while to get the drivers sorted out. let's try again tomorrow. |
| 14:11.56 | pb_ | hopefully I will have found the mic by then also. |
| 14:12.00 | mibus | its quarter-to-frigging midnight here :-) |
| 14:12.03 | mibus | yeah ok |
| 14:12.07 | mibus | i dont know if ill be on tomorrow |
| 14:12.11 | mibus | but i'll try :-) |
| 14:12.14 | pb_ | ok :-) |
| 14:12.22 | mibus | i haven't done linux-linux voip before |
| 14:12.28 | mibus | i'm hoping its better than linux-win32 :-S |
| 14:12.31 | pb_ | heh |
| 14:13.09 | mibus | lin-win has codec issues, there is ONE codec both can speak |
| 14:13.17 | mibus | and it doesnt come bundled with netmeeting :-( |
| 14:13.19 | mibus | (MS-GSM) |
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| 14:13.25 | florian | hi all! |
| 14:13.44 | pb_ | hi florian |
| 14:14.16 | mibus | hi :) |
| 14:19.05 | dc_ | heh |
| 14:19.21 | dc_ | right, time to start this install....m |
| 14:20.05 | dc_ | mibus: hardly late |
| 14:21.00 | dc_ | pb_: we could have a shot once I do my install |
| 14:21.13 | pb_ | dc_: righto |
| 14:22.18 | mibus | dc_: are we talking voip or something else? |
| 14:22.26 | dc_ | voip |
| 14:22.29 | mibus | dc_: its almost midnight :P |
| 14:22.32 | mibus | dc_: cool |
| 14:22.33 | dc_ | mibus: you're going to bed arn't you ;p |
| 14:22.35 | mibus | dc_: eta? |
| 14:22.37 | dc_ | mibus: slacker. |
| 14:22.41 | mibus | dc_: not if you can be fast :-P |
| 14:22.57 | dc_ | heh, not with a while gnome2 apt-get |
| 14:23.07 | dc_ | s/while/whole/ |
| 14:23.07 | mibus | ah |
| 14:23.15 | mibus | even @ 1Mbit? |
| 14:23.18 | mibus | phht |
| 14:23.23 | mibus | take it up the road to Matt's work |
| 14:23.36 | mibus | (do you remember matt? he's the one that took a laptop apart in my loungeroom :-) |
| 14:23.40 | mibus | 2Mbit fibre |
| 14:23.44 | dc_ | well, I only really get about 400k per dowbload |
| 14:23.55 | dc_ | mibus: who..? |
| 14:24.08 | mibus | AND they're getting 256 or 512k ADSL next week |
| 14:24.11 | dc_ | mibus: ath the school? |
| 14:24.15 | mibus | yes |
| 14:24.17 | mibus | up the road |
| 14:24.20 | dc_ | ah cool |
| 14:24.28 | mibus | matt = geeky fellow, played with the wireless stuff with us |
| 14:24.29 | dc_ | mmm...fibre must cost a bit |
| 14:24.37 | dc_ | oh right. |
| 14:24.38 | dc_ | yeah |
| 14:24.42 | mibus | yup |
| 14:26.47 | mibus | i dont think they pay |
| 14:26.52 | mibus | not full whack anyway |
| 14:27.17 | dc_ | heh |
| 14:27.20 | mibus | argh - i just realised, i prolly wont be online this time tomorrow |
| 14:27.24 | mibus | i'll be @ my mum's |
| 14:27.41 | mibus | even if i was i'd have to f**k around with the ohphoneX thing :( |
| 14:27.51 | pb_ | :-/ |
| 14:27.54 | dc_ | heh..I have to burn some of my movies :-\ |
| 14:29.34 | mibus | LOL |
| 14:30.42 | mibus | oh it looks like i might be able to get GM on my laptop |
| 14:30.47 | mibus | so i _may_ be online |
| 14:30.54 | mibus | thats assuming i can get me an IRC client too :-S |
| 14:31.23 | dc_ | heh |
| 14:31.25 | dc_ | what is this? |
| 14:32.23 | mibus | this == not my laptop |
| 14:32.31 | mibus | at mum's == need laptop to go online |
| 14:32.40 | dc_ | ahh |
| 14:32.43 | mibus | (or a 233, or windows, take my pick - LAPTOP :-) |
| 14:33.23 | pb_ | wise choice. |
| 14:33.43 | dc_ | :) |
| 14:34.11 | mibus | :) |
| 14:34.30 | dc_ | I think we must persuade florian etc to get apple laptops |
| 14:34.39 | dc_ | just to keep the consistancy going |
| 14:34.59 | mibus | LOL |
| 14:35.01 | mibus | :-) |
| 14:35.09 | mibus | But to be consistent I'd have to use linux |
| 14:35.14 | mibus | and i'd rather not, i quite like OSX! :-) |
| 14:35.16 | dc_ | nah |
| 14:35.27 | pb_ | dc_: quite so. |
| 14:35.29 | dc_ | I think I may run OS X now they've released an official X |
| 14:35.38 | mibus | linux is snappier UI-wise, but OSX is soooo much smooooother |
| 14:35.46 | mibus | and has much better app support! :-) |
| 14:35.47 | florian | I looked at the apple laptops some times... and yes - my next one could be an apple one :-) |
| 14:35.53 | mibus | and avoids me having to repartition :) |
| 14:35.56 | dc_ | florian: :D |
| 14:36.15 | mibus | i'm considering backing up my laptop to my ipod entirely, then totally reformatting and linux-only-ing :-) |
| 14:36.17 | dc_ | mibus: OS X just has the stlye |
| 14:36.26 | mibus | dc_: i know. and better games support. |
| 14:36.33 | mibus | dc_: i don't suppose GL works underl MOL? |
| 14:36.34 | dc_ | ah yeah |
| 14:36.35 | dc_ | true |
| 14:36.38 | dc_ | hah |
| 14:37.18 | mibus | so i'd need dual-boot |
| 14:37.29 | mibus | dc_: does the latest benh have R/W HFS+ or just R? |
| 14:37.33 | dc_ | yeah. what model is yours? |
| 14:37.41 | mibus | nov 2k2 line |
| 14:37.42 | dc_ | not sure. |
| 14:37.46 | mibus | 800MHz iBook |
| 14:37.51 | dc_ | doh |
| 14:37.51 | mibus | 40GB/256MB |
| 14:37.56 | mibus | CDRW/DVD |
| 14:37.57 | dc_ | better than my current iBook then |
| 14:38.04 | mibus | yup :-P |
| 14:38.07 | mibus | airport |
| 14:38.09 | dc_ | and I bet the dive isn't broken either. |
| 14:38.11 | dc_ | hehe |
| 14:38.16 | mibus | *cough* IPOD *cough* |
| 14:38.20 | mibus | nup |
| 14:38.25 | dc_ | hehe |
| 14:38.43 | mibus | ie. it was the better of the 12" models, with all of the options maxxed out save for RAM, which i only upped to 256 :) |
| 14:38.51 | mibus | iPods are awesome |
| 14:38.54 | dc_ | heh |
| 14:38.55 | mibus | I need OSX just for iTunes :-) |
| 14:38.55 | dc_ | indeed. |
| 14:38.59 | dc_ | I would like one |
| 14:39.15 | mibus | 'spensive tho :( |
| 14:39.18 | dc_ | the thing about apple laptops, is that in 3 years, they'll still have style |
| 14:39.20 | mibus | $920au i paid |
| 14:39.31 | mibus | i know! it's so cool! :-) |
| 14:39.47 | mibus | though the transparent 1mm or 2mm casing around the ibook... |
| 14:39.48 | dc_ | hrm, it's just the samsung x10 is so light. |
| 14:39.54 | mibus | makes it a bitch to engrave :-S |
| 14:40.00 | dc_ | ! |
| 14:40.02 | mibus | not seen one |
| 14:40.23 | mibus | i'm gonna go have a quick look for my CF card so I can take this OSX stuff back to my waiting laptop |
| 14:40.39 | mibus | (i have to boot into my gentoo live CD and use usbnet to get it from my ipaq, ew) |
| 14:41.10 | mibus | actually, sod that, ill use a CDRW |
| 14:41.20 | mibus | ... |
| 14:41.52 | mibus | aha! |
| 14:42.03 | mibus | my father had "hidden" them safely in a drawer :) |
| 14:42.29 | dc_ | hah |
| 14:43.22 | dc_ | weeee |
| 14:43.27 | dc_ | the nautilus cd burner ownz me |
| 14:43.30 | mibus | ? |
| 14:43.34 | mibus | actually |
| 14:43.43 | mibus | i was about to go see if it was installed :-) |
| 14:43.50 | mibus | "burn:///" is not a valid location. Please check the spelling and try again. |
| 14:43.52 | dc_ | it makes life so much easier |
| 14:43.53 | mibus | doh! |
| 14:43.56 | dc_ | ! |
| 14:44.27 | mibus | and i have to d/l 2.2MB to get it working, doh! |
| 14:44.41 | mibus | *sigh* |
| 14:44.44 | dc_ | heh |
| 14:44.49 | mibus | i'm going to be up until dawn at this rate :-) |
| 14:45.08 | mibus | hey did you see my new piccie? |
| 14:45.15 | mibus | i replaced my sucky webcam shot :) |
| 14:45.17 | dc_ | hrm, I'd like to hack it so it put a link to the burning binary on the nautilus toolbar when you're in burn:/// |
| 14:45.27 | dc_ | thank god |
| 14:45.31 | dc_ | gpe.hh.org? |
| 14:46.05 | mibus | no hh.org/~mibus/bleh.jpg |
| 14:46.15 | dc_ | obviously |
| 14:46.45 | mibus | :) |
| 14:46.48 | dc_ | hah, muuuch better. |
| 14:46.59 | mibus | yup |
| 14:47.02 | dc_ | ;p |
| 14:47.04 | mibus | short hair tho |
| 14:47.08 | mibus | not sure i like it now |
| 14:47.10 | mibus | i have longer hair again |
| 14:47.11 | dc_ | no more grease. |
| 14:47.15 | mibus | that was around my bday in may |
| 14:47.20 | mibus | oi! :-P |
| 14:47.27 | mibus | my hair is very rarely greasy :-P |
| 14:47.27 | dc_ | hehe |
| 14:47.36 | dc_ | okay yeah. that 'was' the webcam |
| 14:47.48 | mibus | yeah |
| 14:47.56 | dc_ | I wonder... |
| 14:47.57 | dc_ | ibot dc |
| 14:48.02 | | hmm... dc is better known as dc_ |
| 14:48.02 | mibus | dc_: have _you_ checked out my new games? |
| 14:48.06 | dc_ | ibot dc_ |
| 14:48.06 | | methinks dc_ is a young iPaq hacker or has an email mailto:dctanner@magenet.com or the "added pixmaps to <file>.c" changelog man or a person who loses mibus' code or http://handhelds.org/~cmarqu/dc.jpg |
| 14:48.17 | mibus | dc:_ phil suggested writing games, so i wrote _TWO_ and he hasn't looked at them |
| 14:48.22 | mibus | i'm already loading the photo |
| 14:48.27 | mibus | i msg'd ibot 2mins ago :) |
| 14:48.34 | dc_ | mibus: what game? |
| 14:48.55 | dc_ | my picture is mad |
| 14:49.00 | dc_ | my hair is crazy |
| 14:49.20 | mibus | dc_: gpe-pegged and gpe-ataxx |
| 14:49.25 | mibus | gpe-ataxx roxxors :) |
| 14:49.34 | dc_ | mibus: cool, I hope they have nice graphics. |
| 14:49.40 | mibus | uh |
| 14:49.43 | mibus | ataxx is good |
| 14:49.52 | mibus | pegged is OKish in CVS but lameish on my page |
| 14:49.56 | mibus | neither is in unstable yet |
| 14:50.04 | dc_ | doh |
| 14:50.04 | mibus | i WOULD LIKE for people to test them first :-P |
| 14:50.14 | mibus | testing they compile/package/run from CVS would be nice at some stage... ;-) |
| 14:50.14 | dc_ | hrm, I'd like to write a card game engine. |
| 14:50.19 | dc_ | but...I'm still due pr |
| 14:50.31 | flypiper | mibus: gimme a location to download.. and I will test them:-) |
| 14:50.32 | dc_ | omises fixing gpe-filemanager and finishing gpe-word :} |
| 14:50.35 | mibus | i think i'm bored with games for now |
| 14:50.43 | mibus | http://handhelds.org/~mibus/ |
| 14:50.45 | dc_ | and fixing gpe-gallery fullscreen |
| 14:50.48 | mibus | flypiper: thankyou! :-) |
| 14:50.57 | dc_ | mibus: I will test them on my new install :} |
| 14:50.59 | flypiper | mibus: np.. all you gotta do is ask |
| 14:51.15 | mibus | my plans short-term involve: making sure libredalert is _used_ (it does work now :) |
| 14:51.31 | mibus | adding list mode to iconlist |
| 14:51.40 | mibus | and adding the display stuff to gpe-timetracker |
| 14:51.52 | mibus | i had some other ideas but i keep forgetting to add them to my TODO |
| 14:51.59 | pb_ | mibus: I think gpe-calendar is already using libredalert. |
| 14:52.02 | pb_ | ditto gpe-clock |
| 14:52.06 | mibus | the lacking of carrying my ipaq for a month hasn't helped |
| 14:52.10 | mibus | pb_: hey cool! :-) |
| 14:52.14 | mibus | rocking! |
| 14:52.23 | mibus | i guess i have to add the _delete() functions then too eh? :-) |
| 14:52.32 | mibus | gpe-clock uses it for... ? |
| 14:52.37 | mibus | alarms? |
| 14:52.37 | mibus | that'd be neat |
| 14:52.38 | pb_ | setting alarms |
| 14:52.39 | pb_ | doh |
| 14:52.42 | mibus | my ipaq is SO LOUD! |
| 14:52.54 | mibus | :) |
| 14:53.17 | mibus | flypiper: well then I might have to ask you more often! :-) |
| 14:53.32 | mibus | is there enough GPEy stuff to make a news site about? |
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| 14:53.37 | flypiper | mibus: sure aytime :-) |
| 14:53.41 | mibus | i'd love to read something like gnomedesktop.org about GPE :) |
| 14:53.53 | pb_ | mibus: yeah, we keep planning to install geeklog on handhelds.org for that purpose |
| 14:54.08 | mibus | pb_: did you look over my first-time-use stuff? |
| 14:54.16 | pb_ | difficulty is just in finding someone sufficiently leet with web technology to do it. |
| 14:54.20 | mibus | pb_: that sounds cool, im going to have to look into it then :) |
| 14:54.20 | pb_ | mibus: no, what stuff is that? |
| 14:54.56 | mibus | pb_: i posted it to the list |
| 14:55.02 | pb_ | ah |
| 14:55.02 | mibus | pb_: a first-time-login help screen |
| 14:55.11 | mibus | pb_: the text itself was silly |
| 14:55.17 | mibus | pb_: mostly plugging gpe-ataxx :-) |
| 14:55.18 | pb_ | oh, that. yes, looks cool, though I haven't really spent much time with it yet. |
| 14:55.24 | mibus | pb_: but the idea is (IMHO) usable |
| 14:55.35 | pb_ | we should probably remove the "Welcome to GPE!" popup if we use your stuff. |
| 14:55.38 | mibus | yay! i have a working (i hope) nautilus-cd-burner |
| 14:55.43 | dc_ | right, last cd. |
| 14:55.44 | mibus | there's a welcome to gpe popup? |
| 14:55.48 | mibus | i've never seen that :-S |
| 14:55.54 | pb_ | yes. the one that says, er, "Welcome to GPE!" |
| 14:56.04 | pb_ | mibus: what version are you running, 0.7rc3? |
| 14:56.44 | mibus | uh |
| 14:56.46 | mibus | not sure |
| 14:56.51 | mibus | it's been a while i think |
| 14:56.55 | dc_ | mibus: congrats |
| 14:56.57 | pb_ | ah. suggest you upgrade. |
| 14:57.04 | mibus | rc2 |
| 14:57.12 | mibus | dc_: ? |
| 14:57.45 | dc_ | mibus: cd burner |
| 14:57.49 | mibus | ah :) |
| 14:58.05 | pb_ | mibus: oh, hm, should have had that in rc2 also. |
| 14:58.21 | mibus | maybe i just dont remember it? :-| |
| 14:58.32 | pb_ | maybe :-) |
| 14:58.45 | mibus | pb_: i suck that way :-) |
| 14:58.50 | mibus | its funny cos i ASKED if we had something like that |
| 14:58.56 | mibus | and your response was "go make one" ;-) |
| 14:58.57 | mibus | :-P |
| 14:59.13 | mibus | I'm thinking we should have "help" pages as well |
| 14:59.17 | mibus | sort-of HOWTO stuff |
| 14:59.20 | mibus | (how do i ...) |
| 14:59.20 | flypiper | mibus: http://handhelds.org/scap/port.16834.png :-) |
| 14:59.48 | mibus | very pretty :-) |
| 14:59.54 | dc_ | yes |
| 14:59.54 | mibus | the AI is pretty decent given the simplicity of it |
| 14:59.56 | dc_ | very nice |
| 15:00.31 | mibus | waaa! n-c-b ROCKS |
| 15:01.01 | mibus | OSX & XP can do the same thing, but they both take forever! |
| 15:01.13 | mibus | (OSX does a verify after write, XP takes forever making the image) |
| 15:01.14 | dc_ | yep |
| 15:01.15 | dc_ | make life so much simple |
| 15:01.15 | dc_ | than this xcdroast stuff |
| 15:01.19 | mibus | yeah |
| 15:02.13 | mibus | pb_: so why is it geeklog isn't running now? |
| 15:02.33 | pb_ | mibus: nobody sufficiently 1337 to set it up. |
| 15:02.38 | mibus | pb_: who has tried? |
| 15:02.43 | pb_ | nobody. |
| 15:02.56 | flypiper | mibus: ataxx.. plays and is kewl.. but pegged confuses me.. how is it played?? |
| 15:03.17 | dc_ | pb_: lol |
| 15:03.22 | mibus | flypiper: a peg has to jump over another "peg" (horizontally or diagonally) to an empty spot |
| 15:03.29 | mibus | flypiper: the peg |
| 15:03.42 | mibus | flypiper: the "peg" jumped over disappears |
| 15:03.52 | pb_ | dc_, mibus: jg is the only person who claims to have the skillz, and he's been too busy. |
| 15:04.13 | mibus | pb_: well i'm gonna see if i can find time to set it up locally |
| 15:04.16 | mibus | can't be that hard i'd hope |
| 15:04.22 | pb_ | oh, might have been keithp not jg. |
| 15:04.28 | pb_ | mibus: no, I doubt it's all that hard. |
| 15:04.30 | flypiper | mibus: ahhh got it now :-) |
| 15:04.41 | mibus | i'll give [whoever] the step-by-step instructions on how to do it :-) |
| 15:04.48 | mibus | flypiper: cool. wanna write the docs? ;-) |
| 15:04.50 | mibus | (j/k) |
| 15:04.54 | mibus | (unless you REALLY want :-) |
| 15:04.54 | pb_ | mibus: ok, cool. if you can give me a recipe I can probably do it. |
| 15:05.11 | mibus | hm, that stuff needs instructions, hadn't really thought of that |
| 15:05.21 | mibus | pb_: ok if i do it ill tell you every saucy detail :-) |
| 15:05.27 | pb_ | mibus: great |
| 15:05.33 | mibus | geeklog is downloading at 1.3k/s |
| 15:05.42 | mibus | it's not even causing a blib on my MODEM :-S |
| 15:05.44 | pb_ | mibus: suggest you set it up in your home directory on handhelds.org |
| 15:06.22 | mibus | pb_: ill do it locally first, then there (if i can, i think it needs DB access) |
| 15:06.48 | pb_ | oh, right, yeah |
| 15:06.58 | mibus | i was downloading the rc for the next release anyway |
| 15:07.04 | mibus | the full release before is faster |
| 15:07.08 | mibus | (phew) :) |
| 15:07.11 | pb_ | heh |
| 15:07.36 | mibus | florian: so did you like my 3133t roXXor CSS-based website? ;-) |
| 15:08.17 | mibus | flypiper: if you're adventurous, you can replace the images for gpe-pegged by the ones in CVS |
| 15:08.23 | mibus | flypiper: they are much nicer-looking |
| 15:08.40 | mibus | (oops but not peg_sel.xpm, it relies on code in CVS too) |
| 15:09.37 | flypiper | mibus: I think pegged needs a game-restart button, cause when you clear all the peggs.. you need to restart |
| 15:09.58 | mibus | doesn't it have "new"? |
| 15:10.03 | mibus | yeah it does |
| 15:10.08 | mibus | same thing |
| 15:10.13 | mibus | did you clear all of the pegs? |
| 15:10.18 | mibus | ?? |
| 15:10.20 | flypiper | yea.. Im sleepy and not looking at it |
| 15:10.28 | flypiper | mibus: all but 3 |
| 15:10.29 | mibus | wtf? you LEGEND! |
| 15:10.34 | mibus | i haven't managed to :-) |
| 15:10.37 | mibus | ah |
| 15:10.37 | mibus | not quite then :) |
| 15:10.42 | mibus | "New" work OK? |
| 15:10.45 | dc_ | hehe |
| 15:11.01 | flypiper | yea.. new works.. but it's just an empty page at the top |
| 15:11.06 | mibus | neither me nor matt has finished a full game :-) |
| 15:11.09 | flypiper | lemme scap a pic of that |
| 15:11.14 | mibus | empty page? |
| 15:13.53 | flypiper | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.14642.png |
| 15:14.56 | mibus | that's four pieces left :-P |
| 15:15.07 | mibus | so all i have to do is change the icon & you're happy? |
| 15:15.12 | mibus | that's doable :-) |
| 15:15.34 | flypiper | sure |
| 15:15.41 | mibus | ok now i follow |
| 15:15.45 | mibus | on my TODO now :-) |
| 15:15.56 | flypiper | well I played it again.. just poking around on it.. 4 pieces this time.. sorry |
| 15:16.10 | mibus | LOL |
| 15:16.14 | mibus | you're forgiven :) |
| 15:16.52 | flypiper | LOL |
| 15:17.26 | flypiper | my 7 year old daughter is up now.. lemme get her to play it and tell me what she thinks..:-) |
| 15:17.32 | mibus | LOL! |
| 15:17.43 | dc_ | hehe cool |
| 15:27.43 | mibus | gah!!!! |
| 15:27.52 | mibus | i just found a bug i've been hunting in gpe-pegged since day 1 |
| 15:27.57 | pb_ | ! |
| 15:28.20 | mibus | remember i said i have a bigger pixmap for the "selected" peg, so it appears to "jump out"? |
| 15:28.32 | mibus | im using gtk_widget_invalidate_rect() with the 20x20 area |
| 15:28.41 | mibus | so only that much of the pixbuf is being actually re-checked :-@ |
| 15:28.48 | pb_ | heh |
| 15:30.11 | mibus | serious? that's really cool! |
| 15:30.31 | mibus | a couple of hours wasted my end, a lifetime of "daddy i want a new game" ;-) |
| 15:31.09 | mibus | flypiper: want a new package with nicer UI? |
| 15:31.17 | flypiper | mibus: thanks... she likes it :-) |
| 15:31.48 | flypiper | mibus: sure.. I will have to put it on 3800 |
| 15:32.06 | dc_ | right bbl |
| 15:32.47 | mibus | flypiper: i've made a new package, i'll just test it then upload to my homepage, sound good? |
| 15:32.58 | flypiper | mibus: sure |
| 15:33.54 | mibus | flypiper: ok looks good |
| 15:33.59 | mibus | give me about 5min to upload :-) |
| 15:42.48 | mibus | ok |
| 15:42.53 | mibus | http://handhelds.org/~mibus/ |
| 15:42.57 | mibus | should have it and a new screenshot |
| 15:43.25 | flypiper | mibus: thanks....downloading |
| 15:43.48 | __moray_ | hi people |
| 15:43.49 | mibus | do you guys think the board should be centered, or scaled to fit the available space? |
| 15:43.53 | mibus | hi __moray_ |
| 15:44.34 | pb_ | hi __moray_ |
| 15:44.43 | pb_ | ah, I must remember to do your advocate thing today. |
| 15:45.00 | mibus | pb_: you're a shocker for remembering things you realise :-P |
| 15:45.06 | flypiper | mibus: I think it might look a little better centered |
| 15:45.47 | mibus | flypiper: yeah i think so too |
| 15:45.51 | mibus | flypiper: not a job for tonight tho |
| 15:46.00 | mibus | flypiper: not a job for THIS MORNING though :-) |
| 15:46.05 | mibus | its almost 1:30 |
| 15:46.10 | mibus | i really should go to bed peoples |
| 15:46.18 | mibus | flypiper: I hope your kid likes the better graphics :-) |
| 15:47.27 | __moray_ | pb_: ah yes, then I begin the long wait to be assigned an Application Manager |
| 15:47.45 | __moray_ | pb_: it looks like I really should try to get into the system, since they're talking about making the process even longer now... |
| 15:47.47 | mibus | __moray_: we already have two, gpe-appmgr and mbdesktop :-P :-P :-P |
| 15:47.59 | __moray_ | mibus: sigh... ;) |
| 15:49.32 | flypiper | mibus: brianna seems to like it better.. looks good.. thanks |
| 15:49.53 | mibus | pb_: at least SOMEBODY appreciates my game-writing-skills :-P |
| 15:49.54 | mibus | :-D |
| 15:50.19 | mibus | ok the changes are in CVS now too |
| 15:50.36 | flypiper | mibus: she sends you a big HUG.. and many thanks... now if I can ever get my 3700 back.. I will be happy :-) |
| 15:50.54 | mibus | Awwww I'd give her a hug back but I doubt I can reach from .au :) |
| 15:51.10 | mibus | You're welcome to borrow my 3600 for the next 10 hours, I won't be using it :-D |
| 15:51.29 | flypiper | LOL |
| 15:51.46 | mibus | flypiper: get a PalmIIIe, they're dirt cheap (if you can find them) and actually SYNC with Evolution :-) |
| 15:51.52 | mibus | I'll sell you one ;-) |
| 15:52.51 | mibus | anyway |
| 15:52.54 | mibus | night ppls! :-) |
| 15:52.57 | mibus | fun talking to you all |
| 15:53.15 | mibus | pb_: i'd love to voip with you or dc somewhen but I'm guessing tonight is not the night :-) |
| 15:53.18 | __moray | mibus: night |
| 15:53.25 | __moray | hm, I should get a microphone really |
| 15:53.33 | pb_ | mibus: night |
| 15:53.36 | mibus | hey yeah, we can do group-voip |
| 15:53.39 | __moray | I have a really terrible one somewhere, but not good enough for useful voip |
| 15:53.40 | mibus | is that possible? that'd rock :-) |
| 15:53.49 | __moray | mibus: yeah, you connect to a gatekeeper |
| 15:53.50 | mibus | mine isn't really either, but it works enough :-) |
| 15:53.56 | pb_ | mibus: yeah, that's what the gatekeeper is for. |
| 15:54.07 | mibus | __moray: cool. that'd be neat. we can argue about stuff and run over each other's words :-S |
| 15:54.08 | mibus | :-D |
| 15:54.11 | mibus | night! |
| 15:54.12 | pb_ | mibus: I guess that's the "meeting" part of gnomemeeting. |
| 15:54.12 | flypiper | mibus: nite.. and thanks |
| 15:54.16 | mibus | yeah :-) |
| 15:54.22 | mibus | flypiper: my pleasure! :-D |
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| 17:44.22 | olivier | Hi |
| 17:46.51 | florian | hi olivier |
| 17:49.02 | olivier | florian: if you remember, I was on my way to install a cross compil environnement with the 'debian way page' but I'm stuck at some point (installing the libglib). I've mailed the author of the page but got no response yet. You got any experience on that ? |
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| 17:51.14 | herzi | florian: around? |
| 17:51.30 | florian | olivier: nope, i didn't try this... i use a skiff toolchain from handhelds.org |
| 17:51.38 | florian | obdid you try one of these? |
| 17:51.45 | herzi | florian: can you give me you email address? |
| 17:51.55 | florian | herzi: yep |
| 17:52.36 | florian | herzi: shure... use florian.boor@kernelconcepts.de or boor@unix-ag.org |
| 17:53.38 | olivier | florian: ok. As i have a working gcc-arm stuff, i could recompile libglib, but I was planning to get the library directly the debian way. |
| 17:57.10 | florian | olivier: yes, this sounds intelligent... should be easier to maintain than the skiff toolchains. |
| 18:06.38 | florian | herzi: the answer is on it's way |
| 18:11.12 | herzi | k |
| 18:11.43 | herzi | florian: von nils und petra hab ich noch nix gehört |
| 18:11.53 | herzi | ist petra nummer 3 von gpe? |
| 18:14.05 | florian | herzi: warte... ich schreib dir gerade noch eine mail... |
| 18:14.20 | herzi | k |
| 18:18.09 | herzi | florian: in der mail steht, das ralf das bis montag haben möchte |
| 18:18.19 | herzi | ich würde ih gerne früher mit infos versorgen |
| 18:18.34 | florian | herzi: ok, moment |
| 18:37.22 | florian | bbl |
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| 19:39.45 | mallum_c700 | hey |
| 19:45.14 | AntiProxy | florian: are you the same florian with a 4 digit membership number on slashdot? .) |
| 21:12.38 | AntiProxy | hmm.. after a couple of switches from portrait to landscape display and vice versa, clicking a couple of icons on mbdesktop.. the top left icon always gets overlapped by another icon |
| 21:14.07 | AntiProxy | example: http://handhelds.org/scap/port.9308.png |
| 21:14.24 | AntiProxy | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.11774.png |
| 21:45.06 | spung | AntiProxy: submit bug report against mbdesktop :) |
| 21:46.16 | AntiProxy | thought i'd confirm it first. as i messed around a bit with my setup and didn't keep track of all the changes |
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| 22:19.52 | pb_ | ah, heh, the dbus package breaks gpe-login's new user process. |
| 22:20.25 | __moray | ah fun |
| 22:21.11 | pb_ | It creates a user "messagebus", but because I was too lazy to implement --system in tinylogin's adduser, it gets a "real" uid value. So gpe-login thinks that you have already created an account, and doesn't prompt you to do it again. |
| 22:21.43 | pb_ | course, "messagebus" doesn't have a password, so you can't actually log in as it. |
| 22:22.20 | __moray | ah right, yes :/ |
| 22:22.48 | pb_ | I suppose I should just fix tinylogin. |
| 22:23.45 | __moray | yes, although some other display managers seem to just have a configurable user exclusion list anyway.... |
| 22:24.32 | pb_ | true, that'd be another option. |
| 22:38.54 | florian | re |
| 22:39.05 | pb_ | florian: re |
| 22:39.14 | florian | AntiProxy: I'm shure that's not me! |
| 22:48.29 | florian | night! |
| 22:48.35 | pb_ | florian: night |
| 23:09.13 | __moray | pb_: had a chance to send back that advocate thing yet?</nag> |
| 23:09.28 | pb_ | __moray: um... er... |
| 23:09.35 | __moray | ;) |
| 23:10.15 | __moray | I mean, there's *clearly* nothing better you'd want to do at ten past midnight on a Saturday/Sunday night. |
| 23:14.56 | pb_ | heh |
