| 00:00.11 | pigeon | And vcard-import segvs when trying to read from a pipe ;) |
| 00:00.25 | pb_ | Oops. |
| 00:00.33 | pigeon | GLib-CRITICAL **: file giochannel.c: line 827 (g_io_channel_seek_position): assertion `channel->is_seekable' failed |
| 00:00.44 | pb_ | No, I don't know of any quick way to do multiple entries in one vcf. Sorry. |
| 00:01.08 | pigeon | Ok :) |
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| 05:15.22 | pigeon | Hmm anyone knows where are the sources for gpe-mimedir-tools? |
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| 07:26.29 | florian | hi all |
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| 08:25.10 | pb_ | morning |
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| 08:33.33 | dctanner__ | pb_: up early :) |
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| 08:44.52 | dc_ | so is mallum |
| 08:44.53 | dc_ | morning mallum |
| 08:46.18 | mallum | hey dc |
| 08:46.32 | mallum | dc_: http://handhelds.org/~mallum/mediabox/ |
| 08:47.58 | dc_ | neat! |
| 08:48.43 | dc_ | mallum: what software is it running? |
| 08:49.15 | mallum | matchbox |
| 08:49.25 | mallum | and xine |
| 08:49.28 | dc_ | nice. |
| 08:49.29 | dc_ | right, mbdesktop with a cool theme |
| 08:50.01 | dc_ | that is pretty cool. |
| 08:50.38 | dc_ | oh yeah, what do you think about my ati card selection |
| 08:50.43 | dc_ | I havn't ordered it yet. |
| 08:51.04 | dc_ | a 9000pro 64Mb which is dual head. |
| 08:51.18 | dc_ | and a 7000 64Mb PCI. |
| 08:51.46 | mallum | nice |
| 08:51.54 | mallum | the 7000 sounds like the same card I have |
| 08:52.05 | dc_ | I couldn't find any pci dual head cards in the UK ebuyers. |
| 08:52.06 | mallum | Im pretty sure the 9000's are supported by X |
| 08:52.13 | dc_ | although they do sell them in the US. |
| 08:52.15 | dc_ | mallum: ah cool. |
| 08:52.21 | mallum | my didn't say dual head when I ordered it |
| 08:52.46 | dc_ | is yours one vga one dvi? |
| 08:54.19 | mallum | yep |
| 08:54.37 | dc_ | heh, the adapters are £10 |
| 08:55.04 | dc_ | if I buy a tft then, I can have tri screen |
| 08:55.11 | dc_ | with the tft in the center. |
| 08:57.20 | dc_ | mallum: with the s-video out on your mediabox, it looks like you're converting it into composite? |
| 08:59.37 | dc_ | bbl, I need to catch up on sleep, I was up at 5:30 this morning. |
| 09:01.51 | mallum | dc_: ok |
| 09:20.47 | pb_ | dc_: yeah, builders in again today. |
| 09:21.16 | pb_ | I think I've been at work by 9am every day this week. |
| 09:41.11 | florian | hello pb_ |
| 09:44.21 | mallum | hey florian |
| 09:48.35 | pb_ | florian: morning! |
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| 12:30.44 | dctanner | right! |
| 12:30.47 | dctanner | I have time. |
| 12:30.51 | dctanner | time for gpe programming :D |
| 12:31.05 | PaxAnima | ;) |
| 12:38.02 | florian_ | bbl |
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| 14:15.12 | dctanner | ya |
| 14:15.23 | dctanner | ordered my video cards :) |
| 14:15.33 | dctanner | so hopefully they'll be here by tuesday |
| 14:15.35 | dctanner | :D |
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| 14:23.27 | pb_ | dctanner: yay |
| 14:23.32 | pb_ | which ones did you buy? |
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| 14:55.16 | florian | re |
| 14:55.30 | herzi | Thelonious, like the guy from shrek |
| 14:55.38 | mallum | hey florian |
| 14:56.59 | florian | mallum: hi... i have another bug for you :-) |
| 14:57.47 | florian | mallum: no - forget it - seems to be a problem of gpe-bluetooth |
| 15:00.56 | pb_ | hi florian |
| 15:01.09 | pb_ | ah, what's gpe-bluetooth doing wrong? |
| 15:02.24 | florian | Looks like there is no dbus running on my ipaq... |
| 15:03.29 | pb_ | oh, yeah, I screwed up the dbus-1 package slightly. You need to manually link /etc/init.d/dbus -> /etc/rc2.d/S20dbus or some such. |
| 15:03.43 | pb_ | It expects update-rc.d, which we don't ship in Familiar at the moment. |
| 15:04.51 | pb_ | I guess my project for today is to rewrite update-rc.d in shell or C rather than perl. |
| 15:08.06 | florian | ehh.. nasty |
| 15:08.51 | mallum | has anyone come across a bug in ipkg, where update-alternatives dont work ? |
| 15:09.19 | pb_ | not that I can think of. can you be any more specific? |
| 15:10.29 | pb_ | florian: alternatively I could change the dbus package to not require update-rc.d, but I'd prefer to avoid modifying the source package if possible. |
| 15:10.56 | mallum | well I've changed from mbstart -> mbsession . But when I installed the package update-alternatives told me it was still linking x-window-manager to mbstart, rather than mbsession ( which was listed in the postinst ) |
| 15:11.11 | florian | pb_: yep, this is usually a bad idea... |
| 15:11.16 | mallum | its almost like it using an old postint, Im building another package to double check |
| 15:12.02 | pb_ | mallum: what's in /usr/lib/ipkg/alternatives/x-window-manager? |
| 15:13.18 | florian | pb_: additionally i have no user "messagebus" - not suprisingly after i got this error on updating. |
| 15:13.44 | pb_ | florian: yah, turns out I had got the dependencies wrong. you need to make sure you have the latest busybox+tinylogin, then rerun /usr/lib/ipkg/info/dbus-1.postinst |
| 15:14.51 | pb_ | I'll make a new dbus-1 package with corrected depends as soon as update-rc.d is available. |
| 15:15.48 | mallum | update-alternatives: Linking //usr/bin/x-window-manager to /usr/bin/mbstart |
| 15:15.48 | mallum | update-alternatives: Linking //usr/bin/x-menu-manager to /usr/bin/mbmenu |
| 15:15.48 | mallum | running ldconfig |
| 15:15.48 | mallum | ~ # cat /usr/lib/ipkg/alternatives/x-window-manager |
| 15:15.49 | mallum | /usr/bin/x-window-manager |
| 15:15.49 | mallum | /usr/bin/mbstart 10000 |
| 15:15.51 | mallum | /usr/bin/mbsession 10000 |
| 15:16.04 | pb_ | mallum: looks like your postinst is not correctly deregistering the old alternative. |
| 15:16.06 | pb_ | er, postrm |
| 15:19.05 | mallum | pb_: no it is ( I think ) |
| 15:19.17 | mallum | update-alternatives --remove x-window-manager /usr/bin/mbsession |
| 15:19.18 | mallum | update-alternatives --remove x-menu-manager /usr/bin/mbmenu |
| 15:19.40 | mallum | maybe postrm dont get run on upgrade |
| 15:22.19 | florian | Hmm... xftcache doesn't want to scan the Speedo fonts dir... |
| 15:22.44 | mallum | florian: that always happen to me :/ |
| 15:22.47 | florian | pb_: ah, ok - tinylogin doesn't install properly... |
| 15:24.07 | florian | mallum: Hot to fix that? This is called in a config script - and without it it leaves the x package unconfigured :-( |
| 15:25.00 | mallum | florian: I usually move the xftcache binary out of the way ( call it xftcache.stupid.piece.of.crap or summin ), then replace it with a shell script that returns a success code |
| 15:25.50 | florian | pb_: it tries to replace files that are not part of a package... |
| 15:26.03 | florian | mallum: ah, ok - then i'll do that too :-) |
| 15:27.08 | mallum | pb_: oh btw, did you get the 4.3 X arm debs built and running ? |
| 15:27.16 | pb_ | mallum: the easiest workaround for now would be to install mbsession at a priority of 10001. |
| 15:28.09 | mallum | pb_: yep, thats what I've done |
| 15:28.17 | mallum | pb_: should be in unstable now |
| 15:28.31 | mallum | hmm, I dont know whats up with minisys though :/ |
| 15:33.19 | pb_ | yes, got the 4.3 debs built. had a couple of glitches; I'll respin the packages in the next couple of days. |
| 15:33.50 | pb_ | main problem seems to be that some joker has commented out the arm cache flushing code in the module loader, so the server segfaults immediately on startup. |
| 15:35.43 | pb_ | florian: yeah, the tinylogin thing is caused by the old busybox creating symlinks that it doesn't own. you need to use --force-overwrite, unfortunately. |
| 15:37.56 | pb_ | I should talk to jg as well, find out what his plans are vis-a-vis 4.3 packages in familiar. |
| 15:38.48 | mallum | pb_: ah, that dont sound too clever ;-). I can give the a test on the CATS with a pci nvidia where there ready |
| 15:49.27 | florian | pb_: yep, this works fine |
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| 15:53.08 | mallum | pb_: do the gpe panel apps read the env var 'SYSTEM_TRAY_ID' ? |
| 16:11.52 | florian | brb |
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| 16:13.18 | pb_ | mallum: probably not, though I don't know for sure. |
| 16:15.13 | pb_ | mallum: ok, I'll let you know when I have some working binaries. I think the server I have now works about as well as the 4.2 one did on my cats with s3 card. It'd be nice if I could actually get it to run properly, but I'm not all that bothered. |
| 16:18.44 | mallum | pb_: okey cool |
| 16:19.12 | mallum | pb_: could you make your tray stuff check for SYSTEM_TRAY_ID, otherwise the apps wont work with multiple trays |
| 16:19.33 | pb_ | okay. is there documentation for SYSTEM_TRAY_ID? |
| 16:22.34 | mallum | pb_: dont think so. It should be an int just to specify the id for the manager atom |
| 16:26.29 | pb_ | right |
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| 17:06.10 | mallum | pb_: documented here http://handhelds.org/~mallum/matchbox/manual/communication.txt |
| 17:11.01 | pb_ | thanks |
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| 18:40.08 | Thelonious | herzi, nope, I'm the musician |
| 18:46.27 | herzi | aja |
| 19:13.07 | florian | bbl |
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| 21:06.29 | pigeon | pb_: Do you know where's the source for those vcard-import in the gpe-mimedir-tools? |
| 21:06.49 | pb_ | pigeon: gpe cvs, base/gpe-beam |
| 21:07.07 | pigeon | Oh... gpe-beam... |
| 21:07.21 | pigeon | Cos I discovered some bugs with vcard-import ;) |
| 21:07.31 | pb_ | aha :-) |
| 21:30.01 | mallum | http://www.infosyncworld.com/news/n/3745.html <-- article about CE etc lacking landscape mode |
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| 23:03.36 | pigeon | pb_: Heh one thing good about getting this xda with ppc. I realized its gprs settings for authentication is set to CHAP but not PAP. |
| 23:05.27 | pb_ | pigeon: aha. does your ipaq work with CHAP, then? |
| 23:05.49 | pigeon | Haven't got a chance yet. Will probably try today hopefully. |
| 23:06.03 | pb_ | Fingers crossed then. |
| 23:13.18 | pigeon | Hmm what's the proper way to disable login/multiple user in gpe? Removing gpe-login package? |
| 23:41.37 | AntiProxy | pigeon: the only way i got to disable gpe-login was by adding an "exit" to the second line of /etc/X11/Xinit.d/99gpe-login ( right after 'exec /etc/X11/Xsession' ) |
| 23:42.06 | AntiProxy | actually.. i added 'exec /etc/X11/Xsession' to the top of the script myself |
| 23:42.20 | AntiProxy | cuz setting AUTOLOGIN="true" didn't work |