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| 12:56.04 | pb_ | ha, h5400 wifi seems to crash my access point as well as the ipaq. that's kind of impressive. |
| 12:56.21 | PaxAnima | wow |
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| 14:21.39 | pb_ | dc_: afternoon |
| 14:21.49 | dc_ | hey :) |
| 14:22.01 | dc_ | I need to do some coding before I go mad. |
| 14:22.38 | dc_ | pb_: has there been anything new lately? |
| 14:23.06 | pb_ | dc_: not much. I've been spending most of my time on the h5400 lately. |
| 14:23.12 | dc_ | ah |
| 14:23.37 | pb_ | I guess gpe-filemanager would be the place to direct your efforts, if you want to do some coding. |
| 14:24.40 | dc_ | heh...you mean fixing the scrollbars. |
| 14:24.58 | pb_ | heh, yeah. |
| 14:25.12 | pb_ | and the symlink thing, if that's still outstanding. |
| 14:25.20 | dc_ | ah indeed. |
| 14:25.29 | dc_ | lets handle that first.... |
| 14:25.37 | dc_ | gnome-vfs docs are a start |
| 14:26.24 | pb_ | by the way, our USB host card is finally on sale now. |
| 14:26.34 | dc_ | wow. |
| 14:26.41 | dc_ | pb_: that's cool! |
| 14:26.46 | cmarqu | pb_: Ah, the http://www.interpocket.co.uk/ one? |
| 14:26.50 | dc_ | pb_: how much....and where? |
| 14:26.51 | pb_ | cmarqu: indeed. |
| 14:27.17 | cmarqu | pb_: Cool. Maybe kernelconcepts would like to be German distributor? |
| 14:27.27 | pb_ | cmarqu: Nils already sent me mail about that, in fact. |
| 14:28.08 | cmarqu | Great. That hopefully means they will be for sale at the Linuxtag in about 1 months time. |
| 14:28.23 | pb_ | Ah yes, excellent. |
| 14:28.41 | dc_ | price! |
| 14:28.48 | dc_ | I better get to work this summer holidays |
| 14:28.53 | cmarqu | dc_: 96UKP |
| 14:29.01 | dc_ | yep |
| 14:30.00 | pb_ | I need to find someone to write drivers for wince, too. |
| 14:30.09 | dc_ | indeed. |
| 14:30.17 | pb_ | well, either that or write them myself, which would be terrible. |
| 14:30.34 | dc_ | pb_: I'd suggest the find someone option. |
| 14:30.50 | pb_ | smart thinking. I'll take your advice. |
| 14:30.58 | dc_ | pb_: hum, so I guess most of us will need an adapter to use our usb keyboards or mice right? |
| 14:31.49 | cmarqu | I'll need a dual-sleeve too so that I can use the ipaq as storage for my SmartMedia-based digicam. |
| 14:32.18 | pb_ | The Nexian dual-CF sleeves are quite cool. I have one of those now. |
| 14:32.50 | pb_ | I hear there's also another one from Seido, which sounds very similiar. |
| 14:33.09 | pb_ | dc_: You'll need a hub if you want to connect more than one device at a time, yeah. |
| 14:33.47 | dc_ | belkin make some mini ones don't they... |
| 14:34.13 | pb_ | Yeah. I have a small one here that I use with my laptop. Let me try to find it and see who made it. |
| 14:35.04 | pb_ | Hm, no sign. It must be at the office. |
| 14:35.21 | dc_ | right |
| 14:35.40 | pb_ | also, I think some usb keyboards have hubs built in, so that would be another option. |
| 14:35.53 | dc_ | aha |
| 14:35.57 | dc_ | yes, good idea |
| 14:37.20 | pb_ | but if you want to use more than a couple of devices, you will need a hub with its own power supply. The internal supply is limited to 100mA or so. |
| 14:38.27 | dc_ | ah okay. |
| 14:38.53 | dc_ | well I guess it'd be mostly usefull for downloading pictures off usb cameras and such |
| 14:39.12 | pb_ | yeah |
| 14:39.40 | dc_ | or filming secret video using my ov511! |
| 14:40.02 | pb_ | heh, indeed. well, videoconferencing with a webcam is one application. |
| 14:40.43 | dc_ | you could do that pretty well with a bluetooth sd card and cf usb. |
| 14:40.59 | dc_ | and some 3g data connection via your mobile |
| 14:41.07 | dc_ | then you'd be uber leet |
| 14:41.22 | pb_ | yep. of course, ipaqs have bluetooth built in, so no need even for the sd card. |
| 14:42.38 | pb_ | I'll have to see if I can get gnomemeeting to work. |
| 14:43.24 | cmarqu | Some new digicams now come with built-in BT. |
| 14:43.46 | pb_ | Ah, that's cool. |
| 14:43.51 | dc_ | ccool |
| 14:47.46 | pb_ | bbl |
| 14:57.56 | dc_ | bah |
| 14:58.18 | dc_ | okay, something marginly usefull. |
| 15:02.26 | dc_ | ah I know. |
| 15:02.38 | dc_ | a card game api. |
| 15:02.45 | dc_ | so we can have some more games for gpe :} |
| 15:04.17 | cmarqu | dc_: gpe-gallery could become a gphoto frontend then |
| 15:05.37 | dc_ | ah |
| 15:05.39 | dc_ | clever idea. |
| 15:05.46 | dc_ | although I've never used gphoto myself |
| 15:06.44 | cmarqu | You could even do it with a few system() calls, but that would be hackish |
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| 16:04.06 | pb_ | hi nilsf! |
| 16:05.04 | pb_ | dc__: yeah, more games would be cool. |
| 16:06.57 | nilsf | pb_: Hi! |
| 16:07.10 | nilsf | pb_: So I see your USB CF card now hits the market. Great! |
| 16:07.51 | pb_ | nilsf: Yes, that's right. And if kernel concepts would like to distribute them, that'd be even better :-) |
| 16:08.59 | nilsf | pb_: Sure we'd like! |
| 16:09.15 | nilsf | pb_: Just that this distri things is like calling for trouble :) |
| 16:09.25 | nilsf | pb_: Do you already have CE certification? |
| 16:09.40 | pb_ | Yeah, it's self-certified. |
| 16:10.02 | nilsf | pb_: Self-certified? You did this yourself or what? |
| 16:10.06 | pb_ | You can't sell anything in the UK without a CE mark. |
| 16:10.41 | nilsf | Same here. Or other way round, you could but would be liable for eventual breaks. |
| 16:26.39 | nilsf | BBrox is a real geek :) |
| 16:29.45 | BBrox_showa | Hmm ? |
| 16:29.47 | nilsf | Anyone want to do a workshop on LinuxTag? There are still some open slots and we are invited. |
| 16:30.19 | nilsf | BBrox_showa: No offense :) I was just amused by your nicks and their changes :) |
| 16:30.53 | nilsf | BBrox_showa: Oh... do you have internet in your showa or just forgot to change the nick? |
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| 16:37.32 | nebula | w00t |
| 16:37.40 | dc__ | ... |
| 16:37.53 | nebula | sorry... took me a while to wake up this morning |
| 16:38.35 | nebula | anyways... trying to get the netgear MA701 to work |
| 16:38.44 | nebula | found a vague howto |
| 16:40.51 | nebula | tells me to edit the wireless.opts |
| 16:40.53 | BBrox | nilsf: nope, just finishing a conversation in another channel -:) |
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| 16:57.06 | nilsf | dc__: Oh well... your IP connection does not seem to improve... |
| 17:01.34 | dc__ | welll...inndeed. |
| 17:09.44 | pb_ | Does anybody understand what's going on in this bug? http://handhelds.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=863 |
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| 17:25.02 | nilsf | pb_: I think I have seen this one too but the quite intiutive "press enter on the keyboard" did the trick... |
| 17:25.12 | cmarqu | pb_: gpe-login's default geometry is too small for the "Add new user" mode? |
| 17:25.33 | cmarqu | It shows a few more text fields in that mode. |
| 17:25.55 | pb_ | cmarqu: That's what it sounds like, but you'd think it would behave the same for everybody in that case. |
| 17:26.38 | cmarqu | ISTR it did for me. I should have filed a bug I suppose. |
| 17:26.51 | pb_ | Ah, okay. |
| 17:26.58 | pb_ | I guess I should install the rc3 image and see for myself. |
| 17:27.17 | cmarqu | I *think* half of the button was still there though. |
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| 18:31.04 | herzi | nilsf: hast antwort |
| 18:37.21 | nilsf | herzi: dito :) |
| 18:44.39 | treke|ho2e | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:52.20 | mmallum | hello |
| 20:52.53 | mmallum | anyone seen Linux Magazine ( UK ) ? |
| 20:53.10 | mmallum | There is a big GPE Articale by Nils |
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| 21:04.39 | PaxAnima | hi, mmmmmmmmallum |
| 21:05.29 | mmallum | hello |
| 21:15.24 | PaxAnima | hm... I'm thinking of doing a remote controll app thing using bluetooth/wavelan.. e.g. volume control, fronend for mediaplayers like mplayer etc... |
| 21:17.01 | PaxAnima | maybe such an app already exists? |
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| 21:48.35 | cmarqu | PaxAnima: Oh, that would rule. |
| 21:59.15 | cmarqu | mmallum: Hmm, that article doesn't seem to be online, and http://www.linux-mag.com/2003-06/toc.html doesn't list it either? Care to scan it? |
| 21:59.53 | mmallum | cmarqu: okey will do |
| 21:59.59 | pb_ | I wonder if it's the same one that was in Linux User recently. |
| 22:00.08 | cmarqu | mmallum: Thanks. |
| 22:00.25 | mmallum | cmarqu |
| 22:00.34 | cmarqu | mmallum |
| 22:00.40 | mmallum | doh |
| 22:00.44 | cmarqu | :) |
| 22:01.27 | mmallum | PaxAnima: maybe something like a lirc proxy |
| 22:02.11 | mmallum | cmarqu: this is linux-magazine.com |
| 22:03.13 | mmallum | cmarqu: there seems to be a few uk ones now |
| 22:03.27 | cmarqu | Ah, Google failed! |
| 22:03.46 | mmallum | I was just flicking through the mags in the shop and stumbled upon it |
| 22:04.38 | cmarqu | Okay, it's there in their TOC. |
| 22:04.46 | mmallum | so i bought it, the rest of it is pretty crappy |
| 22:05.54 | pb_ | What does Nils' article say; anything interesting? |
| 22:06.34 | mmallum | its pretty good. explains everything well. lots of screenshots |
| 22:06.51 | mmallum | it has a pic of nils too |
| 22:06.52 | pb_ | sounds cool. |
| 22:06.59 | pb_ | aha, even better. |
| 22:07.20 | cmarqu | Hmm, they don't say anything on how a submitted article is licensed. Maybe we could put it up on the web page if we are allowed. |
| 22:07.44 | mmallum | hmm, I have to get my scanner to work :/ |
| 22:08.00 | cmarqu | mmallum: Take a photo. |
| 22:09.23 | mmallum | pb_: it talks alot about teleport |
| 22:10.36 | cmarqu | Ah, heh. They even have the same articles as the German version. |
| 22:10.47 | cmarqu | http://www.linux-user.de/ausgabe/2003/06/ |
| 22:11.07 | cmarqu | Just that it's Linux User here. |
| 22:11.34 | mmallum | ah maybe its a translation, magazines do that alot |
| 22:11.39 | PaxAnima | cmarqu: I'm thinking of doing it once my Master thesis is delivered (june 16th).. but I don't have bt nor wavelan on my ipaq at the moment |
| 22:12.09 | pb_ | sounds like you need a better ipaq :-} |
| 22:12.14 | PaxAnima | ;) |
| 22:15.30 | PaxAnima | are there any cheap BT pcmcia cards around? |
| 22:15.52 | pb_ | yeah, I think you can get a generic uart card for maybe 50 euros. |
| 22:16.27 | PaxAnima | as a pcmcia card would also be usable for my laptop... |
| 22:16.59 | pb_ | http://web6.scan.co.uk/Products/Info.asp?WPID=53461 for example |
| 22:18.28 | PaxAnima | ah.. that's affordable... just see if I can find a norwegian webshop with similar prices |
| 22:30.27 | PaxAnima | hm.. cheapest I've found so far is a billionton CF card.. it costs 660kr.. |
| 22:30.35 | PaxAnima | ~change 660 NOK to GBP |
| 22:31.39 | PaxAnima | .. with status "Not working" on bluez.sf.net |
| 22:31.58 | pb_ | ah, not so great. |
| 22:32.09 | PaxAnima | :/ |
| 22:32.25 | PaxAnima | maybe do some googling |
| 22:32.32 | pb_ | maybe you could pick one up in Ireland when you go to hear Nils speak at GUADEC. |
| 22:34.03 | PaxAnima | heh.. if I only had time to go to GUADEC... |
| 22:35.57 | pb_ | doh |
| 22:36.33 | PaxAnima | is there an easy way of getting a complete thread on the mailing list system used on sourceforge? |
| 22:36.34 | cmarqu | I bet the slip with the fingerprint already went into the fireplace! |
| 22:36.46 | pb_ | one of these days I should sit down and have a sign-a-thon to get rid of all these slips. |
| 22:37.45 | cmarqu | It's indeed really time consuming. |
| 22:44.37 | mmallum | cmarqu: are you going to GUADEC ? |
| 22:44.53 | cmarqu | mmallum: No. |
| 22:45.07 | PaxAnima | hm.. weird.. the bluez mailing list stops in december 2002.. |
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| 23:26.43 | dc__ | bah |
| 23:27.02 | dc__ | maybe he could submit the same article to linux format ;) |
| 23:30.40 | dc__ | nils that is |