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| 10:09.39 | PaxAnima | hey, mallum |
| 10:10.42 | mallum | hey PaxAnima |
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| 11:39.04 | florian | hi all |
| 11:40.02 | PaxAnima | hi, florian |
| 11:47.09 | mallum | hey florian |
| 11:47.16 | mallum | any joy with your xserver ? |
| 11:47.24 | mallum | florian: I was going to say |
| 11:47.47 | mallum | florian: you could try building a tinyX xfbdev server and see if that would build without xrender |
| 11:48.04 | florian | mallum: not yet :-/ |
| 11:50.35 | florian | mallum: hmm, that's an idea... is tinyX part of the XFree tree? |
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| 12:21.13 | mallum | florian: yes |
| 12:21.21 | mallum | florian: you have an oz buildroot ? |
| 12:22.35 | florian | mallum: nope, what for? |
| 12:24.17 | mallum | my host.def for tinyx is there |
| 12:25.13 | florian | ok, then i'll get one :-) |
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| 12:27.43 | mallum | florian: its ok, its here http://openzaurus.bkbits.net:8080/buildroot/diffs/packages/xfree86/host.def@1.1?nav=index.html|src/|src/packages|src/packages/xfree86|hist/packages/xfree86/host.def |
| 12:28.08 | pb_ | hi chaps |
| 12:28.19 | mallum | hey pb_ |
| 12:28.45 | mallum | florian: you may also want to add #define BuildServerOnly YES , so its a bit quicker |
| 12:31.03 | ade|desk | lo pb_ |
| 12:40.04 | florian | hi pb_ |
| 12:40.20 | florian | mallum: thanks... i'll try it this evening |
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| 14:17.30 | pb_ | florian: do you know what needs to be done to the hostap driver to make monitor mode work? |
| 14:23.58 | florian | pb_: not really - i know they changed the way to set monitor mode is invoked from a iwpriv call to the newer method (iwconfig mode monitor) |
| 14:24.31 | florian | pb_: is the hostap dirver in handhelds tree the latest version? |
| 14:29.49 | pb_ | not sure. let me look. |
| 14:30.31 | pb_ | last updated 2002-10-12, so probably not. |
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| 14:52.50 | florian | pb_: it it much work to test the new version? |
| 14:56.47 | florian | s/it it/is it? |
| 14:57.13 | florian | or better - why not use the new version? |
| 15:08.11 | pb_ | florian: no reason not to use the new one that I know of. |
| 15:08.27 | pb_ | it's just a case of somebody importing it into cvs, building and testing the modules. |
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| 15:23.47 | jsmanrique | hello |
| 15:24.00 | jsmanrique | long time without being here... |
| 15:25.44 | pb_ | hi jsmanrique |
| 15:29.02 | jsmanrique | I hope to finish my xkbd Spanish layout tonight.. just a hope |
| 15:29.23 | pb_ | cool. |
| 15:29.44 | pb_ | jsmanrique: will you be attending guadec next month? |
| 15:29.48 | jsmanrique | has anybody tested Mono::handhelds? and gtk#? |
| 15:29.58 | jsmanrique | pb_ :I would like, but I can't :'-( |
| 15:30.36 | jsmanrique | pb_ : is there any talk about gpe? I have posted about it on some gnome news sites |
| 15:31.04 | pb_ | Yes, Nils is doing a talk on GPE. |
| 15:31.30 | jsmanrique | pb_ : hasn't he already talked about gpe on last guadec on Sevilla? |
| 15:33.16 | jsmanrique | cool to see that |
| 15:36.26 | jsmanrique | oops, Nils has to "compete" with Miguel de Icaza and his talk about Mono:: |
| 15:36.40 | pb_ | Yes, possibly. I wasn't at the Seville guadec. |
| 15:42.51 | florian | yes, hi did :-) |
| 15:51.07 | jsmanrique | see you later... |
| 16:18.27 | PaxAnima | spung: java? |
| 16:18.45 | spung | im afraid so |
| 16:19.04 | spung | stargirl: or java gal |
| 16:25.54 | mallum | BBrox: http://membres.lycos.fr/ppcsoft/ |
| 16:26.16 | PaxAnima | spung: what for? |
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| 16:34.41 | spung | PaxAnima: need some help with LayeredPane's |
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| 17:20.18 | florian | re |
| 17:20.28 | PaxAnima | evening, florian |
| 17:37.42 | pb_ | florian: importing hostap_cs 0.03 now. |
| 17:45.34 | florian | pb_: hey great! |
| 17:45.39 | pb_ | florian: if I build a new set of kernel packages, would you like to try it out? |
| 17:45.53 | florian | pb_: shure :-) |
| 17:46.03 | pb_ | okay. probably be another 10-15 minutes. |
| 18:26.27 | pb_ | florian: ah, pcmcia is broken in cvs head. looks like we will have a short delay while I debug that. |
| 18:34.06 | florian | pb_: looks like some people like to break thungs ;-) |
| 18:34.18 | florian | s/thungs/things |
| 18:35.04 | pb_ | so it seems. :-/ |
| 18:51.04 | pb_ | gack. |
| 18:51.10 | pb_ | curse the kernel and its inline assembler. |
| 18:55.50 | florian | oh, it could be worse... it could be x86 assembler ;-) |
| 18:55.57 | pb_ | heh |
| 18:56.03 | pb_ | anyway, I think I've fixed it now, just testing. |
| 19:24.39 | BBrox | mallum: hmmm ? |
| 19:25.50 | BBrox | mallum: nice :-) |
| 19:54.22 | pb_ | florian: kernel finished, at last. sorry about the wait. |
| 19:54.26 | pb_ | http://handhelds.org/~pb/kernel/ |
| 20:01.01 | florian | pb_: great thanks, no problem... just playing with my sgi kernel... |
| 20:17.30 | mallum | BBrox: thought you'd like it |
| 20:20.22 | florian | ok, my framebuffer works - with X... now let's look at hostap |
| 20:37.19 | pb_ | aha, cool. |
| 21:11.32 | mallum | florian: :-) |
| 21:18.57 | florian | mallum: yeah, really - now gtk works with 15Bit color depth after some kernel tweaks :-) |
| 21:22.30 | mallum | woohoo |
| 21:25.55 | PaxAnima | 15bit? |
| 21:27.31 | mallum | florian: alot of macs have 15bit displays, old powermacs at least |
| 21:27.40 | mallum | florian: I think my 7600 has, and that runs X ok |
| 21:28.51 | florian | mallum: yep, i think X won't work with a RGBA mode with 5551 bit with... |
| 21:29.06 | florian | s/with/widths |
| 21:32.04 | florian | hmm... gnome-terminal uses pango, right? |
| 21:32.15 | mallum | yeah |
| 21:32.28 | florian | ok, crazy if not :-) |
| 21:33.30 | florian | ok, then my pango needs some speedup |
| 21:34.18 | florian | pb_: i have some unresolved symbols in 11xx-uda1341.o |
| 21:34.57 | florian | pb_: ok, one - h3600:hal_ops |
| 21:35.10 | florian | s/:/_ |
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| 21:43.04 | florian | pb_: hostap_cs doesn't load - i have an oops in log :-( |
| 21:43.09 | florian | hi paul |
| 21:43.21 | paul | hi flo |
| 21:44.52 | paul | florian: worked out your aerial problems? |
| 21:45.57 | florian | paul: some, but not all. some are more driver related and there are some more features to add. but basically it should work. |
| 21:46.11 | paul | neat :) |
| 21:47.55 | florian | i created a package today :-) |
| 21:48.57 | paul | woo... so i can ipkg install? :) |
| 21:50.24 | florian | yes... i hope so... maybe read my mail to ml first :-) |
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| 21:53.12 | florian | ok, i think i need some sleep.... |
| 21:53.32 | chrisime | hoi da |
| 21:53.41 | pb_ | florian: oh dear. hostap does load ok on my h3900. |
| 21:53.47 | pb_ | I'll try on my h3600 tomorrow. |
| 21:54.38 | florian | pb_: maybe a problem changing from orinoco - i'll test it on another ipaq too... and reboot my one. |
| 21:54.51 | florian | but first some sleep |
| 21:54.59 | pb_ | ok, cool |
| 21:55.03 | pb_ | night :-) |
| 21:55.30 | chrisime | hoi pb |
| 21:55.32 | florian | night all |
| 21:55.45 | pb_ | hi chrisime |
| 22:52.52 | chrisime | ibot, botmail for themastermind1: Hi, I heard that you're organzing some sort of a group buy for the new zaurus (c750/c760). I'm planning to buy a device, too. could you please contact me: chrisime@gnome.org. Thanks! |
| 22:53.02 | chrisime | nice bot! |
| 22:57.15 | chrisime | bedtime |
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| 22:57.20 | chrisime | oh! |
| 22:57.23 | chrisime | hey there |
| 22:57.38 | chrisime | hi TheMasterMind1 |
| 22:58.04 | TheMasterMind1 | hi. |
| 22:58.13 | chrisime | i left a message for you ;) |
| 22:58.34 | TheMasterMind1 | i see. |
| 22:58.39 | TheMasterMind1 | where? |
| 22:58.40 | TheMasterMind1 | ibot botmail |
| 22:58.45 | chrisime | yupp |
| 22:58.55 | TheMasterMind1 | ibot read botmail |
| 22:58.55 | | no idea, TheMasterMind1 |
| 22:59.01 | TheMasterMind1 | hrm |
| 22:59.04 | chrisime | lol\ |
| 22:59.20 | TheMasterMind1 | i cant get to it |
| 22:59.26 | chrisime | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:59.49 | TheMasterMind1 | chrisime: http://www.zaurus.com/dev/board/index.php?act=ST&f=27&t=3668&s=73ca7a538119a91f578a13194aeb3bef |
| 23:00.30 | chrisime | i know about conics and dyna*** |
| 23:00.32 | TheMasterMind1 | it doesn't seem like there're enough people interested to do a group buy |
| 23:00.38 | chrisime | hmm |
| 23:00.40 | TheMasterMind1 | whys that |
| 23:01.17 | chrisime | hm? |
| 23:02.11 | TheMasterMind1 | whats wrong with conics and dynamism |
| 23:02.55 | chrisime | nothing |
| 23:02.59 | chrisime | conics is cheap |
| 23:03.13 | chrisime | even if there are only 2 or 3 people who wanna buy it |
| 23:03.16 | TheMasterMind1 | oh, bah. i thought you said "i don't know" |
| 23:03.21 | TheMasterMind1 | tired, can't read. |
| 23:03.34 | TheMasterMind1 | brando is quite cheap also |
| 23:03.35 | chrisime | and since the euro is quite strong atm, the devices are cheap for me :) |
| 23:03.52 | chrisime | 750 $ ~ 650 euros |
| 23:03.53 | TheMasterMind1 | i'm thinking about getting a c750 from brando.. but with shipping it comes out to about the same |
| 23:04.41 | chrisime | 540 euros |
| 23:04.48 | chrisime | 633 $ ^^ |
| 23:05.23 | TheMasterMind1 | are you leaning toward the 750 or 760 |
| 23:05.30 | chrisime | 760 |
| 23:05.33 | TheMasterMind1 | ok |
| 23:05.41 | chrisime | 750 would be also ok for me |
| 23:06.30 | chrisime | 455 euro for the 750 |
| 23:07.00 | chrisime | briefly said: the 750 is sufficient |
| 23:08.49 | chrisime | TheMasterMind1, so... |
| 23:10.07 | mallum | are conics doing them yet ? |
| 23:10.38 | chrisime | the 750 |
| 23:10.43 | chrisime | hey mallum |
| 23:11.09 | mallum | chrisime: hey |
| 23:11.14 | mallum | chrisime: 750$ ? |
| 23:11.19 | chrisime | nope |
| 23:11.39 | chrisime | 629 |
| 23:11.46 | chrisime | c750 |
| 23:11.55 | chrisime | c750: 629$ |
| 23:12.20 | mallum | ah thats pretty good |
| 23:12.33 | chrisime | jo |
| 23:12.39 | mallum | are they pxa255 based or still the older xscales |
| 23:12.44 | chrisime | anyway have to go to bed now. |
| 23:12.46 | chrisime | pxa255 |
| 23:12.48 | mallum | girl |
| 23:12.50 | chrisime | 400 MHz |
| 23:13.04 | chrisime | dude |
| 23:13.05 | chrisime | ;( |
| 23:13.07 | chrisime | ups |
| 23:13.09 | chrisime | ;) |
| 23:13.21 | TheMasterMind1 | heh |
| 23:13.34 | mallum | yeah the c700 is 400mhz but performs like shit |
| 23:13.34 | chrisime | TheMasterMind1, i don't understand that japanese page |
| 23:13.53 | chrisime | where you can get the 750 for 533 euros |
| 23:13.58 | chrisime | erm |
| 23:13.59 | chrisime | dollars |
| 23:14.13 | chrisime | and i don't know how to order it |
| 23:14.16 | TheMasterMind1 | yea, i don't either |
| 23:14.17 | mallum | well its ok, but unless ati opens up the specs on the video chip or summin, X in potrait on em is still gonna be pretty crappy |
| 23:14.22 | TheMasterMind1 | someone said they export but i can't find it |
| 23:14.25 | chrisime | TheMasterMind1, are you from europe? |
| 23:14.32 | TheMasterMind1 | chrisime: nope, usa |
| 23:14.36 | chrisime | hmm |
| 23:15.28 | chrisime | TheMasterMind1, if you find out, could you please drop a mail? |
| 23:15.49 | chrisime | email: chrisime@gnome.org or Christian.Meyer@cs.tum.edu (both work :-) |
| 23:15.58 | TheMasterMind1 | k |
| 23:16.04 | chrisime | kewl, thx |
| 23:16.20 | chrisime | have to go to bed now. have to get up in a few hours |
| 23:16.24 | chrisime | cu |