| 00:04.33 | mallum | pb_: thanks for -D_GNU_SOURCE tip |
| 00:05.58 | pb_ | mallum: yeah, you need _GNU_SOURCE to enable a lot of the extensions in libc. I tend to add that routinely to CPPFLAGS nowadays. |
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| 00:08.46 | mallum | pb_: does BSD listen out for that too ? |
| 00:08.54 | pb_ | no. |
| 00:09.15 | pb_ | I'm not sure if _BSD_SOURCE works with bsd. |
| 00:09.56 | mallum | I think I need to set up a box and install a bsd on it |
| 00:10.04 | mallum | or maybe just buy vmware |
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| 00:18.26 | paulj | hehe |
| 00:19.01 | paulj | irc over ip over ppp over ircomm. woohoo :) |
| 00:19.15 | pb_ | heh :-) |
| 00:19.20 | paul | excellent. |
| 00:19.46 | paulj | mobile internet access from now on! :) |
| 00:20.11 | paulj | (as long as i can keep the mobile and ipaq pointed at each other and steady :) ) |
| 00:20.13 | mallum | paulj: :-) |
| 00:20.28 | mallum | paulj: what phone / isp / provider ? |
| 00:20.33 | paulj | pb_: we probably should have an init script for gnokii? |
| 00:20.49 | pb_ | paulj: mm, to do what? |
| 00:20.50 | ade|tiny | at what cost is the mobile isp/rate ? |
| 00:21.13 | paul | mallum: i dont have GPRS, so its ppp to a dublin POP for oceanfree over a voice GSM call. |
| 00:21.22 | pb_ | paulj: can I interest you in a bluetooth kit for 6210? :-) |
| 00:21.23 | paul | pb_: to start gnokiid? |
| 00:21.31 | paul | pb_: ooh. how's that work? |
| 00:21.35 | paul | pb_: yes interested. |
| 00:21.46 | paulj | ade|tiny: i have no idea. |
| 00:21.48 | pb_ | paul: ah, what's gnokiid do? |
| 00:21.50 | ade|tiny | zap that battery power :) |
| 00:21.56 | paulj | ade|tiny: i never see the phone bill |
| 00:22.08 | ade|tiny | paulj:lucky you :) |
| 00:22.28 | paul | pb_: runs in background and provides a /dev/gnokii. |
| 00:22.39 | paul | pb_: probably want it if you had xgnokii :) |
| 00:22.57 | paul | ade|tiny: cant take as much as battery as wireless/ethernet pcmcia :) |
| 00:23.12 | pb_ | paul: the 6210 thing is a replacement battery which contains a bluetooth module. I swapped my 6210 for a 6310 a month or so back so I don't need the addon any more. |
| 00:23.21 | paul | pb_: oooh... |
| 00:23.31 | paul | pb_: how much would it be? |
| 00:23.32 | ade|tiny | paul: my phone battery hates irda. |
| 00:23.38 | paul | ade|tiny: ah. |
| 00:23.47 | paul | ade|tiny: bluetooth'd probably be even worse, no? |
| 00:23.51 | pb_ | paul: see http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=BLUETBATT |
| 00:23.55 | ade|tiny | paul: yes |
| 00:24.21 | paul | pb_: though, i reckon i might be able to convince work to upgrade my phone to a bluetooth one. |
| 00:24.30 | paul | pb_: otherwise i just drop it several times :) |
| 00:24.36 | ade|tiny | lol |
| 00:24.37 | paul | and get a new one anyway :) |
| 00:24.48 | pb_ | paul: hehe. |
| 00:25.07 | paul | pb_: and the software on the 6210 supports bluetooth? |
| 00:25.17 | paulj | ok.. enough of this. |
| 00:25.56 | pb_ | paul: not as fully as the 6310. The bluetooth module basically pretends to be a cable connection. So you don't get the full UI for pairing and so on, but most other stuff works fine. |
| 00:26.25 | paul | pb_: its enough for ppp to work. |
| 00:26.46 | paul | mallum: whats a p800? pentium 800MHz? :) |
| 00:26.49 | pb_ | yep. you can't use it with a headset though. |
| 00:27.04 | paul | pb_: i reckon i'll try talk my job around. |
| 00:27.27 | pb_ | righto. |
| 00:27.42 | paul | pb_: in fact, i dont need to talk the job around, a colleague will do that for me (cause he wants me to get a bluetooth phone and figure out how to use it with ipaq for him :) ) |
| 00:28.01 | pb_ | paul: ah, even better. |
| 00:28.03 | paul | :) |
| 00:28.44 | paul | hmm.. i take it i can setup ppp ifaces in network/interfaces, but whats syntax for ppp? |
| 00:29.31 | pb_ | shouldn't normally be necessary. |
| 00:29.35 | pb_ | pppd brings up the interface on its own. |
| 00:30.21 | paul | but i dont want to trust to pppd, not with GSM calls :) |
| 00:30.40 | paul | pb_: but ifup/ifdown ppp0 would be handy |
| 00:30.55 | pb_ | hm, why's that? |
| 00:31.27 | paul | save on typing |
| 00:31.47 | pb_ | oh, you mean you want ifup and ifdown to actually bring the connection up and down? |
| 00:31.53 | paul | yes |
| 00:32.07 | pb_ | ah. I don't think you can do that. |
| 00:32.10 | paul | ah. |
| 00:32.40 | paul | fair enough, a wee shell script with 'pppd /dev/ircomm0 call oceanfree' in /etc/ppp will do so. |
| 00:33.19 | paul | or better, pppd /dev/ircomm0 call oceanfree updetach. |
| 00:33.21 | pb_ | oh, maybe you can. there seems to be some support in ifupdown for invoking pon/poff for dialout. |
| 00:34.03 | paul | ah. |
| 00:34.12 | pb_ | see man 5 interfaces |
| 00:34.20 | paul | on debian? |
| 00:34.24 | pb_ | yeah |
| 00:34.42 | paul | really should install debian sometime. |
| 00:34.50 | pb_ | use something like ipaq4.handhelds.org if you don't have a debian machine on hand. |
| 00:35.01 | paul | yeah, will do. |
| 00:37.50 | paul | ah, we dont have pon/poff though on familiar. |
| 00:38.12 | pb_ | ah. |
| 00:40.25 | paul | pb_: oh, i'll another global locale struct to gpe_login and populate it from, eg, /etc/gpe/locale.default (you asked for this last week or week before that iirc). |
| 00:40.36 | paul | s/i'll/i'll add/ |
| 00:40.55 | pb_ | paul: ah yes, great. |
| 00:41.09 | paul | pb_: also, the gpe-irc package in rc1 appears to have been compiled with DEBUG defined. |
| 00:41.28 | pb_ | doh |
| 00:41.43 | pb_ | I just type "make ipkg", so you get whatever the makefile asks for. |
| 00:42.59 | pb_ | it's weird though, I thought Makefile.dpkg_ipkg was meant to force DEBUG=no for package builds. |
| 00:44.26 | paul | no idea really. |
| 00:45.00 | paul | pb_: also, should there perhaps be an init script for irattach? (it runs as a daemon it seems. needed for ircomm) |
| 00:46.32 | pb_ | yeah, maybe. you don't want irattach on all the time though, as that would waste power. |
| 00:46.39 | pb_ | really ought to be a dockapp, a la gpe-bluetooth. |
| 00:47.26 | pb_ | paul: on the gpe-irc thing, turns out the culprit is "#define DEBUG 1" in irc.h. duh. |
| 00:47.40 | paul | pb_: oh oops. that was me. |
| 00:47.54 | pb_ | ah yes, so it was. |
| 00:48.16 | paul | pb_: has colin added a DEBUG to CFLAGS now if the makefile DEBUG is set? |
| 00:48.22 | pb_ | not sure. |
| 00:48.35 | pb_ | is the gpe-irc debug thing bad enough to be worth building a new package for? |
| 00:48.40 | paul | pb_: no |
| 00:48.54 | pb_ | ok. |
| 00:49.07 | paul | pb_: its 2 fprintf's |
| 00:49.45 | pb_ | righto. well, it's hardly the only program that spews to stderr, so I think we can live with that. |
| 00:49.54 | paul | pb_: ah. how does gpe-bluetooth do it? (i guess the answer is to look :) ) |
| 00:50.08 | paul | pb_: well, gtk/glib is annoyingly verbose. |
| 00:50.35 | pb_ | is it? I hadn't noticed any great gtk verbosity. |
| 00:50.37 | pb_ | what kind of thing? |
| 00:52.14 | paul | eg: |
| 00:52.15 | paul | (gpe-irc:2870): GLib-CRITICAL **: file ghash.c: line 225 (g_hash_table_lookup): assertion `hash_table != NULL' failed |
| 00:52.49 | pb_ | ah. yes, it's quite verbose about that kind of thing, but the solution is to fix the bugs in gpe-irc. :-} |
| 00:52.50 | paul | pb_: running gnome/gtk apps from CLI generally results in lots of spewage as you use it. |
| 00:52.55 | paul | pb_: good point :) |
| 00:53.25 | pb_ | yeah. evolution 1.3 has taken to echoing all its SMTP dialogs to stderr, I noticed recently. |
| 00:53.26 | paul | pb_: ok, but if something is "CRITICAL" i'd expect it to take its ball and go home. |
| 00:54.03 | paul | pb_: if apps just continue working (without apparent problems) then 1. the programmer probably /wont/ fix it and 2. the error obviously is not /that/ critical. |
| 00:54.21 | paul | pb_: urg.. |
| 00:54.22 | pb_ | paul: well, I can build glib with --disable-debug, which will convert that into a segfault. |
| 00:54.28 | pb_ | I'm not sure it would be an improvement though. |
| 00:54.30 | paul | pb_: have they not heard of --debug? |
| 00:54.37 | paul | pb_: yeah, why not? |
| 00:55.22 | paul | pb_: but surely it'd be better to segfault if debug is /enabled/? (under presumption that when debug is enabled, programmer is one running it?) |
| 00:55.22 | ade|tiny | galeon would segfault with every page loaded |
| 00:55.29 | paul | ade|tiny: eek |
| 00:56.09 | pb_ | paul: with debug enabled, it will catch attempts to e.g. pass NULL pointers into glib functions (which is what the example you quoted was about) and quietly return some harmless-ish value. with debug disabled, it will attempt to dereference the pointer, boom. |
| 00:56.41 | paul | pb_: eek |
| 00:56.43 | pb_ | paul: when debugging, you should set a breakpoint on g_log to catch this kind of thing. |
| 00:56.49 | paul | pb_: ah. |
| 00:57.06 | paul | pb_: if it'd just segfault you wouldnt need a breakpoint. |
| 00:58.32 | pb_ | true, I think the NULL asserts are pretty useless really. |
| 00:58.51 | pb_ | There are a variety of other type-checking asserts that do provide a useful function, though. |
| 01:00.55 | pb_ | for example, if some function expects to be passed a GtkWindow object and you pass it a GtkLabel by mistake, you will get a meaningful diagnostic. Without it, you'd get an obscure segfault, memory corruption or some other erroneous behaviour, perhaps much later. |
| 01:03.49 | paul | ok, yes, thats true. |
| 01:04.04 | paul | pb_: as long as it results in a segfault though :) |
| 01:04.58 | paul | i'm not arguing against it doing careful type checking, i'm arguing that when it detects a problem it should segfault and guarantee getting the programmers attention. :) |
| 01:05.36 | pb_ | yeah, that's a reasonable point of view. you'd need to convince the GTK dudes, though. |
| 01:09.34 | paul | yeah, guess so. |
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| 01:27.42 | pb_ | actually, it'd be interesting to know whether there was any detectable speed improvement from turning off debugging in gtk. |
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| 11:28.47 | PaxAnima | morning |
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| 12:20.10 | pb_ | dc__: afternoon |
| 12:28.25 | ade|tiny | afternoon peoples |
| 12:28.37 | pb_ | hi ade |
| 12:29.34 | ade|tiny | why arent there more hours in a day, it really is most anoying |
| 12:29.39 | ade|tiny | hi pb_ |
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| 12:39.47 | dc___ | blarg. |
| 12:40.06 | pb_ | :-/ |
| 12:40.17 | dc___ | I'm having serious battles with my wifi |
| 12:40.25 | pb_ | oh dear. |
| 12:40.29 | dc___ | I think I need to hack some silly arial into the airport. |
| 12:40.41 | pb_ | not enough range? |
| 12:40.47 | dc___ | well yeah |
| 12:41.00 | dc___ | when it works, it's like 450kB/s which is fine |
| 12:41.07 | dc___ | but when it doesn't work, it sucks |
| 12:41.19 | pb_ | ah. |
| 12:41.19 | dc___ | badly. |
| 12:41.23 | pb_ | do you know what causes it to not work? |
| 12:41.52 | dc___ | not sure. |
| 12:42.11 | dc___ | I think having my computer faciing the wrong way isn't good. |
| 12:42.23 | dc___ | but that's kind of hard to fix |
| 12:42.29 | pb_ | yeah. |
| 12:42.54 | pb_ | can you add an aerial to your wifi card? might be easier than the airport. |
| 12:43.04 | ade|tiny | any recommendations for a cf wifi card that will work with wince2.11 as well as linux |
| 12:45.56 | ade|tiny | hehe the silence is deafening |
| 12:46.04 | ade|tiny | guess there arent any |
| 12:48.31 | pb_ | heh |
| 12:48.42 | pb_ | guess this isn't the right channel to solicit wince recommendations. |
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| 12:54.25 | ade|tiny | any ideas where to ask pb_? |
| 12:54.36 | pb_ | not really. :-/ |
| 12:55.32 | ade|tiny | hmm bugger.. only really need it so i can use it to slap an initrd into the ram and then reboot back to linux nfs rooted |
| 12:56.10 | ade|tiny | i'm feed up of serial nfs ... its not funny |
| 12:58.06 | pb_ | try wired ethernet? I guess most of the ne2k-compatible cards should work with wince. |
| 12:59.42 | ade|tiny | to buy a cf card wired is about the same price as wifi cf, i'd like to use it on my ipaq aswell |
| 13:03.35 | ade|tiny | hehe google is your friend :) |
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| 18:43.48 | mallum | 'ello |
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| 20:13.07 | spung | omg |
| 20:13.20 | spung | i've become window maker addicted |
| 20:13.28 | spung | I mean, gnome sucks |
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| 20:19.56 | florian | hi all! |
| 20:20.28 | mallum | spung: you are so stuck in the 90's |
| 20:21.27 | pb_ | hi florian |
| 20:22.56 | florian | pb_: hi, i see you noticed the same error in my sql code like me :-) |
| 20:23.05 | pb_ | florian: heh :-) |
| 20:28.16 | florian | pb_: i'll look at this issues tomorrow... |
| 20:28.34 | pb_ | florian: cool. |
| 20:29.08 | florian | we have some other problems - does setting of alarms work with the rc1 image? |
| 20:29.21 | pb_ | florian: no, there is this opie-opie-opie-opiealarm issue. |
| 20:30.07 | pb_ | florian: see http://handhelds.org/z/wiki/ImminentZeroPointSevenRelease errata section |
| 20:31.02 | pb_ | the opie guys have corrected their package, so it should be fixed in rc2. |
| 20:31.56 | florian | pb_: well, i didn't know - then i think that's my problem... |
| 20:33.25 | pb_ | florian: yeah, it's unfortunate that it was broken in rc1. There is a workaround on that wiki page. |
| 20:33.38 | florian | ok - next one... (yes, i had a boring sunday without a compiler in range) |
| 20:36.48 | florian | codebreaker seems to have problems with our current defaults (Angelistic theme, Vera 8) |
| 20:36.58 | cmarqu | SQL... are you talking about gpe-contacts? The latest version is completely mad. :) |
| 20:37.22 | pb_ | cmarqu: The latest version in cvs, or in the archive? |
| 20:37.27 | cmarqu | florian: You binary, that is. |
| 20:37.39 | pb_ | Ah, right. |
| 20:37.58 | florian | cmarqu: yep - i know - i found this while driving home while optimizing the sql in ind :-) |
| 20:38.34 | cmarqu | Aha. It is actually slower than the version in unstable, but maybe because of that problem. |
| 20:38.48 | pb_ | florian: ah yes, I see what you mean about codebreaker. |
| 20:39.08 | pb_ | florian: I am not sure whether we are meant to be using gpe-code or gpe-code2 at the moment. Maybe it would be a good idea to mail mccarthy and ask. |
| 20:39.20 | florian | cmarqu: yep, this is possible... |
| 20:41.55 | florian | ok, then i noticed some strange behaviour of my wireless subsystem using a static interface configuration |
| 20:42.49 | florian | the devives comes up and gets configured correctly - then, a minute later or so it seems to be down again... |
| 20:43.49 | pb_ | florian: mm. is dhcpcd running by any chance? |
| 20:44.17 | florian | pb_: this is the package from - pre10 i think |
| 20:44.21 | florian | pb_: http://handhelds.org/scap/port.18118.png |
| 20:44.47 | pb_ | florian: yes, I see the same. |
| 20:47.16 | florian | pb_: yep - that's it... bad... is it possible to tell dhcpcd to leace the device up if the dhcp request fails? |
| 20:48.37 | pb_ | florian: I think dhcpcd should not be running at all in a static configuration. Can you find out how it is getting started? |
| 20:49.44 | florian | pb_: yes - i think the pcmcia subsystem is told to do so - it has an extra parameter to use dhcp |
| 20:50.42 | florian | pb_: im my case the idea was to have a default config (home, no dhcp) which is overriddden by any successful dhcp request |
| 20:52.55 | florian | cmarqu: could you send me a large contacts database for some tests? i'd like to make some more changes in gpe-contacts :-) |
| 20:53.40 | cmarqu | What! All my contacts? |
| 20:54.10 | cmarqu | florian: What I do it start out with a small set, then vcard-import it several times. |
| 20:54.18 | florian | cmarqu: did you use real contacts?! then better don't do :-) |
| 20:54.36 | cmarqu | florian: Yeah, I have the ones from my cell phone. |
| 20:55.03 | florian | cmarqu: well, thats an idea - i think i have about 50 in my REX :-) |
| 20:55.47 | cmarqu | Imported 5 times that should already show if it's slow. |
| 20:56.03 | florian | ok, great - i think i'll try this |
| 20:56.36 | florian | another problem i found is in gpe-calendar |
| 20:56.45 | pb_ | florian: Ah, I see. To be honest, I think the easiest way to do what you want would be to set up a dhcp server at home :-) |
| 20:57.17 | florian | it shows the wrong dialog layout when editing an existing reminder |
| 20:57.59 | florian | pb_: hmm, yes - i fear that's the solution... but that's ok - the machine that should do this is nearly finished :-) |
| 20:58.19 | florian | bugzilla? |
| 20:59.08 | florian | mallum: there? |
| 21:03.18 | pb_ | florian: yeah, please put the reminder thing in bugzilla. |
| 21:03.38 | florian | well, i have two other bugs - one in mbdesktop and one matchbox i think |
| 21:03.58 | florian | and two more for gpe-conf :-/ |
| 21:04.23 | pb_ | Aha, right. |
| 21:04.24 | mallum | florian: beep |
| 21:05.24 | florian | mallum: Hi! The "SingleInstance" doesn't seem to work with apps loke gpe-nmf or gpe-mixer :-/ |
| 21:06.14 | mallum | florian: toolbar apps ? |
| 21:07.14 | florian | mallum: and if you close xkbd and you scrolled down your desktop before the scroll buttons dissapear. so you have no possebility to scroll up again |
| 21:07.44 | florian | mallum: yep, why? |
| 21:08.05 | mallum | florian: what happens - is it just a case you can open multiple copies ? |
| 21:08.38 | florian | mallum: yep |
| 21:08.57 | mallum | florian: ok, checking source to see why that would happen .... |
| 21:09.50 | florian | mallum: great :-)) |
| 21:11.57 | mallum | florian: ah, are they started via the dock ? |
| 21:12.24 | florian | mallum: no, via mbdesktop |
| 21:12.42 | mallum | florian: and they have SingleInstance=True in there .desktop files ? |
| 21:12.56 | florian | pb_: du we have a sshd problem in unstable? |
| 21:13.45 | pb_ | florian: not sure, maybe check with Kero. |
| 21:13.54 | pb_ | florian: I know he was making new packages earlier today. |
| 21:14.09 | florian | mallum: yep, both |
| 21:14.25 | florian | mallum: is True=true? |
| 21:14.51 | florian | pb_: ok, thenn he forgot to update libcrypto :-/ |
| 21:15.19 | mallum | florian: check the line against something else such as gpe-calenders .desktop , case shouldn't matter iirc |
| 21:15.21 | pb_ | florian: ah. |
| 21:15.50 | pb_ | florian: you could mention it to him in #handhelds.org. |
| 21:16.05 | florian | strange... i can't toggle the light with the power button anymore :-/ |
| 21:16.45 | pb_ | florian: Oh. It works for me, apparently. |
| 21:18.00 | florian | pb_: i could too... 20 minute ago... before update |
| 21:18.18 | pb_ | florian: Oh right, I see. |
| 21:18.27 | pb_ | florian: is keylaunch still running? |
| 21:19.34 | florian | pb_: nope :-/ |
| 21:19.58 | florian | mallum: ah, there it's "True" and not "true" like in the other ones |
| 21:20.02 | pb_ | florian: ah. |
| 21:29.58 | cmarqu | pb_: "gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders > /etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders" is not necessary anymore with your new gtk packages, right? |
| 21:30.26 | pb_ | Right. At least, I hope it's not required. |
| 21:30.29 | mallum | florian: does changing them to True fix it ? |
| 21:33.02 | florian | mallum: i just changed one - how do i trigger the reload of the file? |
| 21:33.55 | mallum | florian: it should just happen |
| 21:34.29 | mallum | florian: probably safest to log in out though |
| 21:35.32 | florian | mallum: ok, doing this... the other problem is clear? |
| 21:36.01 | mallum | florian: yep already working on that one :-) |
| 21:38.14 | florian | mallum: no, this didn't help |
| 21:38.22 | florian | mallum: agg, cooll |
| 21:41.20 | florian | i think i have a patch to make gpsdrive run on familiar again :-) |
| 21:42.28 | florian | mallum: yes - e.g. someone used the wrong strip... |
| 21:46.18 | florian | setting an alarm with gpe-clock seems to be broken too :-/ |
| 21:46.43 | mallum | florian: yeah doh :\ |
| 21:46.44 | florian | (yes, i removed this opie...*\'}{ |
| 21:46.46 | florian | ) |
| 21:46.48 | mallum | 24 time |
| 21:46.59 | mallum | no wonder dc_'s matchbox seged |
| 21:47.58 | pb_ | florian: hm, oh dear. |
| 21:48.04 | pb_ | florian: do alarms in gpe-calendar work now? |
| 21:49.26 | florian | pb_: let me try... |
| 21:51.06 | florian | pb_: i did this: reset, login as user, set alarm (for in 2 minutes) ...alarm starts instantly |
| 21:52.27 | pb_ | florian: Oh, that's strange. |
| 21:52.38 | pb_ | florian: that was gpe-clock? |
| 21:52.53 | florian | pb_: yep |
| 21:53.23 | florian | oops.. out of battery power :-/ |
| 21:55.18 | cmarqu | pb_: Do you want to try the new gstreamer or its spider before fam 0.7, or should I add it as a known problem to the Newbie page? |
| 21:58.43 | florian | pb_: with calendar it works |
| 21:59.40 | florian | pb_: with gpe-clock not |
| 22:05.29 | florian | night all |
| 22:06.37 | cmarqu | Night florian |
| 22:24.03 | pb_ | cmarqu: I'll try to find time to build some new gstreamer packages. |
| 22:24.16 | cmarqu | Okay. That would be cool. |
| 22:24.35 | pb_ | If nothing else, I think I can fix the ogg plugin to avoid the particular problem we are having. |
| 22:24.52 | cmarqu | That may even be safer. |
| 22:26.15 | cmarqu | GPENewbie should be up-to-date now. |
| 22:26.21 | pb_ | Great! |
| 22:26.33 | cmarqu | Even with pictures!!!1! :) |
| 22:27.42 | pb_ | Heh :-) |
| 22:27.52 | pb_ | Ah, I think there is a config file you can edit now to turn off the login screen. |
| 22:28.07 | pb_ | It's /etc/sysconfig/gpelogin. |
| 22:28.22 | cmarqu | Okay, will add that. |
| 22:28.45 | pb_ | Florian (I think) pointed out that it's not actually marked as a conffile yet, so upgrades will destroy it, but I will fix that in the next gpe-login (which I will make as soon as Paul checks in his locale changes). |
| 22:29.07 | cmarqu | Perfect. |
| 22:29.55 | pb_ | Oh, and on the scap thing, scap does ship a .menu file I think. You just need to sweet-talk nelson into providing a .desktop and an icon as well. |
| 22:30.10 | pb_ | (Or drill down through "Other" in mbmenu to find it.) |
| 22:30.53 | cmarqu | Aha... |
| 22:44.50 | pb_ | Hm, I'm not able to reproduce Florian's gpe-clock problem. |
| 22:45.20 | mallum | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.7753.png is matchbox on a z 5000d |
| 22:46.24 | cmarqu | "Unable to set alarm", hmm. |
| 22:46.32 | pb_ | mallum: that's cool. |
| 22:46.44 | pb_ | cmarqu: do you have atd running? |
| 22:46.56 | cmarqu | pb_: Ah, of course, that problem... |
| 22:47.18 | pb_ | Yeah. :-/ |
| 22:50.07 | cmarqu | Argh! Works. |
| 22:50.12 | pb_ | Hm, it'd be kind of cool to have an application that showed the amount of current you were drawing from the battery as well as the expected life, like xpmumon does on the ibook. |
| 22:50.29 | cmarqu | This gpe-announce wakes up the dead. |
| 22:50.42 | pb_ | cmarqu: Yes, it's nothing if not strident. |
| 22:50.48 | mallum | pb_: just discovered the keyboard 'just works' which is good |
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| 23:20.07 | cmarqu | Night. |
| 23:20.19 | pb_ | cmarqu: Night. |
| 23:22.15 | mallum | pb_: did you build your rxvt-utf8 from the rxvt in keithp's cvs ? |
| 23:22.38 | pb_ | no, that code didn't compile last time I tried. |
| 23:22.50 | pb_ | the stuff I used is in handhelds.org cvs. |
| 23:24.55 | mallum | aha |
| 23:26.27 | mallum | pb_: did you import it in there ? |
| 23:26.36 | pb_ | yes. |
| 23:28.17 | mallum | pb_: and did you write the xft stuff yourself or find a patch of kp's changes in his rxvt repo ? |
| 23:28.48 | pb_ | some of both. |
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