| 00:06.48 | __moray | paul: well, Familiar existed before GPE/Opie, though... |
| 00:07.12 | paul | __moray: yeah, but there isnt much in the familiar cvs tree now anymore it seems.. |
| 00:08.18 | __moray | paul: as I said, most Familiar packages lack centralised source |
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| 00:08.29 | paul | __moray: yeah :) |
| 00:49.29 | paul | mallum: ah, renice wont work - Xipaq is execed. :) |
| 00:49.32 | paul | need nice. |
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| 09:41.02 | jsmanrique | hello |
| 09:41.15 | jsmanrique | is there any manual or howto about Tiny-X? |
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| 13:32.52 | *** topic/#gpe is GPE Palmtop Environment | http://gpe.handhelds.org | http://www.handhelds.org/z/wiki/CurrentThingsToDo | http://europa.debian.org/bugzilla | bootgpe2 images now at http://familiar.handhelds.org/releases/v0.7/boot/ | Familiar 0.7 issues: http://www.handhelds.org/bugzilla/showdependencytree.cgi?id=99 | New matchbox website with screenshots and docs - > http://handhelds.org/~mallum/matchbox/ |
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| 16:26.05 | dc_ | afternoon! |
| 16:26.59 | PaxAnima | hi, dc_ |
| 16:28.23 | dc_ | hey PaxAnima |
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| 16:49.19 | florian | hi all! |
| 16:49.47 | PaxAnima | hi, florian |
| 16:57.58 | cmarqu | Hi florian |
| 17:01.23 | florian | anything new on ipkg this weekend? |
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| 18:47.09 | pb__ | yo |
| 18:47.34 | cmarqu | Hi pb__. Back home? How was the trip? |
| 18:47.45 | pb__ | hi cmarqu |
| 18:47.57 | pb__ | Just got back to London. I'm on the train from the airport at the moment. |
| 18:48.24 | cmarqu | Ah, the wonders of wireless... |
| 18:49.11 | pb__ | Quite so. Yeah, the trip was pretty good all told. Flights were fairly painless, and it was cool to meet the guys in the US. |
| 18:49.32 | cmarqu | Nice. |
| 18:50.15 | pb__ | Oh, and I talked to Jim about this business of the international kernel patch, He doesn't think it should be a problem, but he'll check with HP legal folks. |
| 18:50.29 | cmarqu | Ah, good. |
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| 18:51.19 | pb__ | Russ made some new 0.7-pre images too, which you might have already seen, and they look good too. |
| 18:52.29 | pb__ | Plus I'm now kind of fired up to work on GPE syncing, so maybe I'll have a go at that in the coming week. |
| 18:52.46 | cmarqu | Yes. I flashed pre8 and upgraded, looks well. |
| 18:52.50 | cmarqu | Ah, coooool. |
| 18:53.06 | cmarqu | What are the rough plans for sync now? |
| 18:53.42 | pb__ | Well, still more or less what we talked about at the GPE weekend. That is: fix usqld so it works, add authentication, and use SQL-over-TCP for syncing. |
| 18:54.18 | cmarqu | Ah, okay. |
| 18:54.49 | pb__ | I'm not quite sure what the situation is with usqld, need to check that out. |
| 19:11.10 | nelson | pb__: is that what you and bdale were talking about? |
| 19:11.44 | nelson | pb__: did you ever see my design for a syncing system? |
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| 19:26.15 | florian | mallum: hi |
| 19:26.35 | mallum | hey florian + all |
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| 19:29.39 | florian | dneuer: hello |
| 19:30.30 | dneuer | hi florian |
| 19:30.40 | dneuer | you ever figure out your batter issue? |
| 19:32.11 | florian | i didn't try it again so far... |
| 19:32.40 | dneuer | ah |
| 19:33.00 | dneuer | which kernel version you running? |
| 19:33.13 | florian | i tried to find out what's up with ipkg, but without much success :-/ |
| 19:33.24 | florian | 2.4.19-rmk6-pxa1-hh9 |
| 19:34.00 | dneuer | you compile it yourself, or get it from handhelds.org |
| 19:34.01 | dneuer | ? |
| 19:34.14 | dneuer | ipkg? what's the problem w/ ipkg? |
| 19:34.43 | florian | this was some nasty work after ipkg updated the kernel from the h3600 image to a pxa kernel... |
| 19:35.00 | dneuer | ahh, that's not good |
| 19:35.06 | florian | installed from handhelds... |
| 19:35.13 | dneuer | i think i heard rumblings about the arch thing |
| 19:35.30 | dneuer | do you think that had anything to do w/ the battery thing, or was that a separate issue? |
| 19:35.43 | florian | this was one of the problems... |
| 19:36.13 | florian | no, as the information from apm was ok, i think this is a problem of minibat. |
| 19:36.40 | dneuer | oh, OK |
| 19:37.20 | dneuer | I just fixed a problem w/ the battery interface in the 31xx/36xx37xx series, I wondered if there was a similar issue perhaps on 38xx/39xx |
| 19:39.01 | florian | this illustrates another ipkg issue: |
| 19:39.04 | florian | /mnt/ramfs/tmp # ipkg list | grep scap |
| 19:39.04 | florian | libnspr4 - Netscape Portable Runtime Library |
| 19:39.04 | florian | scap - This service lets you create a screen capture file from your |
| 19:39.04 | florian | /mnt/ramfs/tmp # ipkg install scap |
| 19:39.04 | florian | Cannot find package scap. |
| 19:39.06 | florian | Check the spelling or perhaps run 'ipkg update' |
| 19:40.46 | florian | cmarqu: your patch is in :-) |
| 19:41.49 | cmarqu | florian: Great :) |
| 19:42.27 | cmarqu | Watching movie, BBL. |
| 19:45.20 | dneuer | florian: that's weird |
| 19:45.36 | dneuer | it seems like there have been a lot of ipkg-related problems recently |
| 19:46.28 | florian | yep, really :-( i wish i had more time to look what's up with that :-/ |
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| 19:47.36 | florian | dc_: hi dc_ |
| 19:47.45 | dc_ | evening florian :) |
| 19:48.51 | nelson | florian: hi. Is there a wireless configuration program for gpe? |
| 19:49.09 | dc_ | florian: ah, I see you have commit some stuff. |
| 19:49.28 | florian | dc_: yes, about 3 minutes ago :-) |
| 19:49.34 | dc_ | :) |
| 19:49.48 | dc_ | I need to finish my business studies coursework, bbl. |
| 19:50.18 | florian | eehhh... have fun! ;-) |
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| 20:02.47 | florian | nelson: yes, it is - gpe-wlancfg |
| 20:03.57 | mallum | hey dc_ |
| 20:04.04 | mallum | dc_: got you c700 yet ? |
| 20:04.37 | florian | nelson: it's a package independent from gpe-conf at the moment. it still has some bugs, but works basically. |
| 20:06.23 | dc_ | mallum: he sent it today :D |
| 20:06.29 | mallum | nelson: hey, much success at hdc ? |
| 20:06.32 | mallum | dc_: cool |
| 20:06.40 | dc_ | mallum: so it'll be here just in time for the holidays, and so will my satellite :D |
| 20:06.50 | mallum | dc_: extra nice |
| 20:07.47 | dc_ | indeeeeeed! |
| 20:07.58 | dc_ | mallum: plus it's 2MB/s from 10pm to 7am :D |
| 20:08.37 | mallum | wow |
| 20:09.15 | dc_ | ack...damn this, I must start my work, it's getting late. |
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| 22:40.35 | pb_ | hi paul |
| 22:41.00 | paul | heya pb |
| 22:43.01 | paul | pb_: still in the usa? |
| 22:43.13 | paul | pb_: ntl - obviously not :) |
| 22:43.25 | pb_ | paul: nope, got back this evening. |
| 22:48.18 | paul | pb_: so how was it? fun? |
| 22:48.52 | pb_ | Yep, pretty good. It was certainly fun to meet all the US-based folk. |
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| 22:50.36 | paul | pb_: was it mostly 'dev weekendish' or more along lines of talks? |
| 22:51.48 | pb_ | paul: mostly the former. I think we had three or four talks on the first day, lasting about a half-hour each, and another two on the second day. |
| 22:52.35 | paul | pb_: you went to usa for just 2 or 3 days? |
| 22:52.41 | paul | pb_: the jet lag must have been fun |
| 22:53.38 | pb_ | paul: yeah, arrived in Boston at about 9pm Thursday (local time), left at 6am this morning |
| 22:53.48 | paul | pb_: you poor thing :) |
| 22:54.27 | pb_ | paul: jet lag wasn't actually all that bad; the time difference was only 6 hours on the way there and 5 on the way back, and the flight times worked out quite well so I didn't actually lose any days or nights. |
| 22:55.51 | tmbg37 | hmm, perhaps someone can solve my problem here |
| 22:56.53 | tmbg37 | with gpe2 and familiar 0.7, even when i set the xkbd layout to "US", it still gives me "Standard" when i click the xkbd-launcher in the panel |
| 22:57.16 | pb_ | ah, I think this is probably bug 716. |
| 22:57.24 | pb_ | http://www.handhelds.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=716 |
| 22:58.08 | tmbg37 | that's great, but how the hell do i fix it? |
| 22:59.28 | cmarqu | By sending cookies to florian? |
| 22:59.35 | cmarqu | Or coffee... |
| 22:59.36 | pb_ | well, it would appear that the problem relates to some files having been renamed. So, I guess you can either rename them back, or modify the configuration program to work with the new names. |
| 23:00.26 | pb_ | Or, yes, wait patiently for our very own gpe-conf hero to deal with the problem. The bug was only filed yesterday, and not assigned to him until about 20 minutes ago, so we should probably not expect a fix quite yet. |
| 23:03.08 | cmarqu | Night. |
| 23:03.15 | paul | night colin |
| 23:03.17 | pb_ | cmarqu: night |
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| 23:29.46 | tmbg37 | anyway, so with bug 716, which files need to be renamed? |
| 23:34.47 | mallum | tmbg37: you can fix it by renaming files in /usr/share/xkbd |
| 23:35.12 | mallum | tmbg37: but the proper fix is to fix gpe-conf to resync up the filename change |
| 23:35.12 | tmbg37 | but which ones? |
| 23:35.38 | tmbg37 | and just how do i do that? |
| 23:36.54 | mallum | not sure, you'll have experiment or grab the src of gpe-conf or just wait for the fix |
| 23:37.31 | tmbg37 | i think i'll go with with renaming the files |
| 23:37.35 | tmbg37 | so which ones need renaming? |
| 23:38.16 | mallum | the .xkbd files |
| 23:38.26 | mallum | I cant remember what to though |
| 23:39.16 | tmbg37 | it would be a nice thing to include in the bug report |
| 23:39.24 | tmbg37 | after I find out, i guess i'll add a comment |
| 23:39.55 | mallum | thats not the correct fix though |
| 23:56.30 | *** topic/#gpe by jsmanrique -> GPE Palmtop Environment | http://gpe.handhelds.org | http://www.handhelds.org/z/wiki/CurrentThingsToDo | http://europa.debian.org/bugzilla | bootgpe2 images now at http://familiar.handhelds.org/releases/v0.7/boot/ | Familiar 0.7 issues: http://www.handhelds.org/bugzilla/showdependencytree.cgi?id=99 | New matchbox website with screenshots and docs - > http://handhelds.org/~mallum/matchbox/ | Visit comp.os.linux.embedded , someone questioni |
| 23:56.54 | *** topic/#gpe by jsmanrique -> GPE Palmtop Environment | http://gpe.handhelds.org | http://www.handhelds.org/z/wiki/CurrentThingsToDo | http://europa.debian.org/bugzilla | bootgpe2 images now at http://familiar.handhelds.org/releases/v0.7/boot/ | Familiar 0.7 issues: http://www.handhelds.org/bugzilla/showdependencytree.cgi?id=99 | New matchbox website with screenshots and docs - > http://handhelds.org/~mallum/matchbox/ | Visit comp.os.linux.embedded newsgroup |
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