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| 10:17.16 | pb_ | hi chaps |
| 10:18.22 | pigeon | yo pb_! |
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| 10:21.36 | pb_ | hi pigeon |
| 10:31.31 | PaxAnima | morning |
| 10:32.28 | pb_ | hi paxanima |
| 10:33.02 | PaxAnima | hi, pb_ |
| 10:55.45 | PaxAnima | mallum: kamikaze dolphins? ;) |
| 10:56.48 | mallum | PaxAnima: yeah |
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| 11:06.42 | mallum | pb_: I've autotool'd xsettings-client btw, you can grab it from http://handhelds.org/~mallum/downloadables/Xsettings-client-0.10.tar.gz . The one in the gpe ftp directory doesn't currently build - makefile missing some includes ? |
| 11:23.03 | pb_ | yeah, could be. I'll take a look at that. |
| 11:24.53 | mallum | pb_: it looks like its just trying to include something from the CVS tree - no biggy |
| 11:31.31 | pb_ | ah right, sounds like it could be a problem with make dist. |
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| 12:54.34 | mallum | hey Hallski |
| 13:00.55 | Hallski | yo |
| 13:01.56 | mallum | Hallski: I started my panel app :-) |
| 13:02.44 | Hallski | nice |
| 13:04.11 | mallum | bonobo kind of sucks :( , seems impossable to degug the stupid applet without loads of 'printf' msg boxs |
| 13:04.18 | mallum | kind of reminds me of javascript hell |
| 13:08.14 | Hallski | mallum: yeah :( |
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| 13:13.34 | chrisime | hi pb_ |
| 13:14.05 | mallum | hey chrisime, what a wierd hostname you have |
| 13:14.27 | chrisime | yeah |
| 13:14.37 | chrisime | it's a chair at my uni |
| 13:14.48 | chrisime | the prof's name's Spies |
| 13:15.11 | chrisime | i'll get my pda by next week probably |
| 13:15.12 | mallum | are you doing compsci at uni ? |
| 13:15.17 | chrisime | mallum: yo |
| 13:15.24 | chrisime | informatics/comp.sc. |
| 13:15.52 | mallum | chrisime: if you cant get one, I could send you my crappy 3100, or ask jg for one - he has a few 3100's to get rid of |
| 13:16.03 | mallum | chrisime: they are really really crap though |
| 13:16.19 | mallum | chrisime: but enough to test basic stuff, like layout |
| 13:16.34 | chrisime | 3100 |
| 13:16.44 | mallum | chrisime: they only hav 16Mb of ram, so launch more than a couple gtk2 apps and you get OOM'd |
| 13:17.07 | chrisime | mallum: i'll take everything for free, even crap ;) |
| 13:17.18 | mallum | chrisime: the most awful greyscale screens |
| 13:18.01 | mallum | chrisime: okey wait for X11 jedi jg to show up and we'll hassle him ;-) |
| 13:18.12 | chrisime | hm? |
| 13:18.28 | chrisime | i sort of managed to get a 240x320 (with the help of xrandr) |
| 13:18.41 | mallum | chrisime: jg has a load to get rid of, I only have the one :( |
| 13:18.43 | chrisime | it's still not like it should be but better than nothing |
| 13:19.23 | chrisime | mallum: it's not possible to extend the RAM there? |
| 13:20.53 | mallum | chrisime: not easily I wouldn't have thought |
| 13:21.42 | mallum | chrisime: I fixing up matchbox with gnome a little more - its quite cool now alot of desktop 'features' now work ok |
| 13:21.55 | chrisime | kewl |
| 13:21.56 | mallum | chrisime: all praise open standards :-) |
| 13:22.02 | chrisime | i should compile a decetn cvs version |
| 13:22.05 | chrisime | damn |
| 14:19.43 | mallum | I added a shot of the tabletPC to http://handhelds.org/~mallum/matchbox/screenshots.html |
| 14:49.55 | spung | anyone have cygwin experience? |
| 14:50.07 | pb_ | a little |
| 14:53.18 | spung | pb_: i wonder if i can put it in a CD and use it in any windows box? |
| 14:53.32 | pb_ | yeah, probably. |
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| 15:04.31 | jsmanrique | hi! |
| 15:04.36 | pb_ | hi jsmanrique |
| 15:04.38 | pb_ | hi paul |
| 15:04.52 | paul | hi pb |
| 15:05.34 | paul | pb_: planning on doing the web page and the locale.alias->directory for gpe-login at the weekend. (and maybe look at gpe-irc). busy week unfortunately. |
| 15:05.46 | pb_ | right, cool |
| 15:07.47 | jsmanrique | I am seeing epia boards for a "home made" tabletpc :-) |
| 15:07.59 | jsmanrique | since simpad is very expensive here |
| 15:08.48 | pb_ | I think epia is a bit on the large side for a tablet. |
| 15:09.49 | jsmanrique | pb_ : well, really, I am searching for via eden embedded boards |
| 15:11.17 | jsmanrique | pb_ : http://www.via.com.tw/en/Products/eden_mobile.jsp |
| 15:11.39 | jsmanrique | pb_ : they claim that consume less than transmeta devices |
| 15:18.38 | pb_ | Still quite a lot more than strongarm, though. |
| 15:19.59 | pb_ | SA-1110 is about 400-500mW or so. Eden is maybe ten times that. |
| 15:20.03 | jsmanrique | pb_ : maybe, but .. how powerful is a sa over a 933Mhz via eden? |
| 15:20.40 | jsmanrique | and the boards came with almost everything.. |
| 15:21.05 | jsmanrique | and they are x86, so it is "easier" to run linux on them |
| 15:21.37 | pb_ | Yeah. They're quite nice boards, just wouldn't necessarily be my choice for a battery powered system. |
| 15:22.37 | jsmanrique | I am just searching, just that |
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| 15:30.52 | jsmanrique | since sa boards are hard to find, specially with linux support in Spain |
| 15:31.11 | pb_ | I wouldn't have thought it would be hard to import the simpad from Germany. |
| 15:31.19 | pb_ | Or... hackkit! |
| 15:31.25 | pb_ | (hi prp) |
| 15:34.40 | jsmanrique | pb_ : yes, simpad are 600 Euros in Spain more or less |
| 15:34.48 | jsmanrique | pb_ : and hackkit.... |
| 15:35.06 | jsmanrique | pb_ : I am waiting for its official release (hey prp) :-) |
| 15:57.18 | spung | pb_: could you build a gpe-today ipkg? i can't build it in the ipaq cluster :\ |
| 16:00.02 | mallum | jsmanrique: hey, I uploaded a pic to mb site of tablet pc |
| 16:00.31 | jsmanrique | mallum : nice, I'll take a look to it |
| 16:02.02 | PaxAnima | mallum: can mbdock autohide? |
| 16:02.39 | mallum | PaxAnima: nope :( |
| 16:02.49 | mallum | PaxAnima: it wouldn't be hard to make it so though ... |
| 16:03.35 | PaxAnima | mallum: was thinking that autohiding vertical docks could be a solution for people with too many dock apps.. |
| 16:06.03 | mallum | PaxAnima: yep, Im thinking at the moment how panels work |
| 16:06.22 | mallum | PaxAnima: Im probably gonna have some experimental builds where the docks dont scroll |
| 16:06.43 | mallum | PaxAnima: but 'flip' on rotation so they always stay the same size |
| 16:07.00 | mallum | PaxAnima: and if the dock is full, a new dock is forked to take the new app |
| 16:07.17 | PaxAnima | autohiding, transparent docks, which is at a "alayer" above the apps could be usefull (and cool) |
| 16:09.36 | mallum | yeah, except I dont think you could do the transparency thing well :( |
| 16:09.59 | PaxAnima | how does mbmenu do it? |
| 16:11.40 | mallum | hackerly :( |
| 16:14.12 | PaxAnima | but hackerly == cool ;) |
| 16:15.39 | mallum | hmmm, usually it means wierd unfixable bugs :( |
| 16:15.44 | PaxAnima | you should have seen the source for my pim.. it's very cool at times.. ;) |
| 16:17.04 | pb_ | spung: sure, I'll do that later this evening. remind me if I seem to have forgotten. |
| 16:17.41 | pb_ | spung: are there any packages that need rebuilding to fix the UTF8 .desktop snafu? |
| 16:18.31 | jsmanrique | mallum : you should contact Ximian to make them include mathbox in a possible Tablet Ximian Desktop :-) |
| 16:21.05 | PaxAnima | mallum: how is the transparency hack done? |
| 16:21.45 | mallum | jsmanrique: hmmm, I was thinking of maybe starting my own GNOME for Tablet PC project :-) |
| 16:21.53 | mallum | PaxAnima: use the source luke ;-) |
| 16:22.21 | jsmanrique | mallum :your own Gnome? |
| 16:22.34 | mallum | PaxAnima: there are a number of ways to do it in various levels of uglyness |
| 16:22.40 | mallum | jsmanrique: no ! |
| 16:22.52 | PaxAnima | mallum: the uglier the faster? |
| 16:22.59 | mallum | jsmanrique: my own 'GNOME for Tablet' PC project |
| 16:23.18 | mallum | PaxAnima: the cleanest way is probably fastest actually but less impressive |
| 16:23.42 | mallum | PaxAnima: you can use the parent relative properties of windows, which is the 'fast way' things like aterm do it |
| 16:23.59 | mallum | PaxAnima: you can get XRender to kind of do it by 'acciendent' |
| 16:24.06 | jsmanrique | mallum : then, you should contact Ximian and Gnome Foundation :-) |
| 16:24.16 | PaxAnima | mallum: 'accident' ;) |
| 16:24.50 | mallum | PaxAnima: or you can basically take a screenshot of the area of the screen before the window is mapped and use that ( how mb currently does it ) |
| 16:25.06 | mallum | jsmanrique: yeah I have to actually write some stuff first ;-) |
| 16:25.20 | PaxAnima | mallum: ah.. |
| 16:29.19 | pb_ | mallum: I'm still showing binaries owned by 1000:1000 in the latest matchbox ipk. |
| 16:29.26 | pb_ | Are you sure that isn't happening for you? |
| 16:29.51 | jsmanrique | mallum : then I should start making my home made tabletpc based in via eden mobile :-) |
| 16:32.09 | mallum | pb_: wierd, I'll have to check. I dont know why that would happen as I run the make install and ipkg-build under fakeroot ? |
| 16:35.12 | pb_ | Dunno. If you upgrade your ipkg-build to one that does the new format, I think you can use the -o and -g options to force ownerships in the archive. |
| 16:35.44 | mallum | pb_: cool, is it in ipkg CVS ? |
| 16:35.56 | pb_ | yup. |
| 16:36.01 | pb_ | well, ipkg-utils cvs nowadays |
| 16:36.19 | mallum | okey, is that apps/ipkg-utils ? |
| 16:36.29 | pb_ | just ipkg-utils I think, no apps/ |
| 16:38.02 | mallum | pb_: cool got it, I'll update the build scripts |
| 16:38.27 | pb_ | cool |
| 16:40.08 | mallum | I'll build a new package as soon as I reflash my ipaq |
| 16:40.16 | pb_ | righto |
| 16:40.33 | pb_ | looks like nelson will have a pre7 image soon, so you might want to hold out for that. |
| 16:40.57 | mallum | yeah, that was my plan :-) |
| 16:41.06 | mallum | I can help test that |
| 16:56.10 | pb_ | Nils put the appropriate new bootldr on your ipaq at the weekend, right? |
| 17:01.07 | mallum | no that waht my 3600, I have to reflash bootloader on 3870 |
| 17:01.34 | pb_ | ah, I see |
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| 17:11.08 | florian | hi all! |
| 17:11.46 | pb_ | hi florian |
| 17:12.57 | florian | these timezone handling is nasty! |
| 17:13.20 | pb_ | :-/ |
| 17:13.20 | florian | s/these/this |
| 17:15.06 | mallum | pb_: is there a way to get the x,y co-ords of a gtk widget relativve to the origin of the root window ? |
| 17:16.18 | pb_ | not directly. see gpe-what for example. |
| 17:16.32 | mallum | cool thx |
| 17:17.41 | pb_ | From what I remember, the short summary is that widget->allocation.{x,y,width,height} will give you the widget coordinates relative to its containing window. You then have to use XQueryTree to convert that to absolute screen coordinates. |
| 17:22.08 | mallum | pb_: yeah, you'd think gdk would give to a way to do it with out resorting to xlib |
| 17:24.30 | pb_ | There might be a gdk wrapper around XQueryTree. I'm not sure. |
| 17:27.20 | PaxAnima | I think it's possible to get the absolute position of an widget.. I think I've done it before... |
| 17:54.17 | mallum | hmm, kind of got it working using gdk_window_get_root_origin |
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| 18:12.14 | pb_ | wow, libdbus is a bit larger than I was expecting. |
| 18:13.05 | mallum | does it have all the test stuff built in ? |
| 18:13.14 | pb_ | dunno, this is Colin's .deb |
| 18:13.30 | pb_ | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 205080 Mar 18 16:07 libdbus-1.so.0.0.0 |
| 18:13.34 | pb_ | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 10344 Mar 18 16:06 libdbus-glib-1.so.0.0.0 |
| 18:13.36 | pb_ | that's on i386 |
| 18:15.26 | mallum | I guess it all the test stuff, the ipkg is only 107k ( glib + base ) |
| 18:15.34 | pb_ | ah, ok |
| 18:16.05 | pb_ | is the ipk in unstable now? |
| 18:16.56 | mallum | its here http://www.handhelds.org/~mallum/dbus/ |
| 18:17.02 | mallum | think I uploaded it |
| 18:17.07 | pb_ | ok, cool |
| 18:17.19 | mallum | I have to split it up still |
| 18:17.29 | pb_ | oh right, yeah. |
| 18:18.45 | pb_ | mmm, file sizes in the ipk are |
| 18:18.48 | pb_ | -rwx------ 1 pb gdm 169828 2003-03-07 15:32 libdbus-1.so.0.0.0 |
| 18:18.52 | pb_ | -rwx------ 1 pb gdm 11072 2003-03-07 15:32 libdbus-glib-1.so.0.0.0 |
| 18:18.59 | pb_ | so it looks like the test code costs about 30k. |
| 18:19.21 | pb_ | hm, I wonder why gdm 0wnz all my files suddenly. |
| 18:20.44 | mallum | its pretty small really when compared to xlib / gtk2 |
| 18:22.02 | pb_ | well, yeah, but it's hardly doing the same job as those libraries. |
| 18:22.53 | pb_ | 100k of flash shouldn't particularly be a problem though |
| 18:25.28 | pb_ | I'd like to get the bluetooth/hotplug code start using it sometime soon, I think. Should be interesting to see how we do with that. |
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| 18:32.06 | florian | another green one :-) |
| 18:32.10 | pb_ | cool :-) |
| 18:32.11 | mallum | pb_: yeah cool |
| 18:32.21 | mallum | florian: green ? |
| 18:32.38 | florian | mallum: http://handhelds.org/z/wiki/CurrentBugsInCVS |
| 18:32.41 | pb_ | mallum: if you can get the package uploaded into unstable (and ideally broken up), that would be a big help. |
| 18:34.53 | florian | mallum: this is basically the html export of GPE.opml in cvs, this was a simple way to keep bugs found using gpe in mind |
| 18:40.26 | mallum | florian: I think wiki is broke :( |
| 18:40.30 | mallum | biab |
| 18:41.57 | florian | mallum: oops... i see... |
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| 18:42.48 | dc_ | yay |
| 18:42.57 | dc_ | the weekend is here :D |
| 18:44.11 | florian | dc_: hi dc_ |
| 18:47.24 | dc_ | hey there florian |
| 18:47.31 | dc_ | florian: how's the gpe-conf stuff going? |
| 18:49.07 | florian | dc_: good - just finished some changes in time/date config module. it uses GtkDateCombo now and is able to set some real timezones :-) |
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| 18:50.12 | dc_ | florian: great! |
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| 18:52.03 | dc_ | o hey pb_ |
| 18:52.07 | dc_ | weekend :D |
| 18:52.10 | pb_ | dc_: ah, hey! |
| 18:52.13 | pb_ | dc_: indeed |
| 18:52.25 | dc_ | thank god it is. |
| 18:52.29 | pb_ | heh |
| 18:53.20 | pb_ | hm, I need to buy a carry case for my ibook. |
| 18:53.29 | dc_ | ack yes. |
| 18:53.32 | dc_ | heh |
| 18:53.37 | dc_ | I wish apple made nice chrome ones |
| 18:53.47 | pb_ | ha, yeah |
| 18:54.03 | pb_ | guess I will have to scour the local shops tomorrow. |
| 18:54.42 | dc_ | good idea. |
| 18:54.55 | dc_ | pb_: did you drop it or someting...? |
| 18:55.06 | pb_ | dc_: no, not yet, but I suspect it is only a matter of time. |
| 18:55.12 | dc_ | quite. |
| 18:55.40 | pb_ | and I need to take it to the CRL thing next week, so it'd be nice to have a case at that time. |
| 18:55.53 | dc_ | oooh, going to the us then? |
| 18:56.00 | pb_ | yup, just a short trip |
| 18:56.10 | dc_ | sounds like fun |
| 18:56.14 | pb_ | out on thursday afternoon, back Sunday night I think |
| 18:56.21 | dc_ | ah cool |
| 18:56.23 | pb_ | or maybe coming back on Monday, I can't remember |
| 18:57.06 | pb_ | anyway, should be fun. |
| 18:58.51 | pb_ | ah, I see luc has checked in more iconlist changes. |
| 18:59.01 | dc_ | ah cool |
| 19:03.51 | florian | hmm... is gpe-filemgr in unsable up to date? |
| 19:03.59 | pb_ | I think so. |
| 19:04.09 | pb_ | There's still this scrollbar issue, as far as I know. |
| 19:04.14 | dc_ | should be all stockup up though. |
| 19:04.21 | pb_ | yep |
| 19:05.45 | florian | lokks like it is some work to make it really manage files... |
| 19:06.13 | dc_ | :} |
| 19:06.15 | dc_ | yes... |
| 19:06.25 | dc_ | it's more of a 'viewer' at this point in time. |
| 19:06.45 | pb_ | I guess it should be easy-ish to add popups for simple stuff like deleting and renaming within a directory. |
| 19:06.57 | dc_ | yes.. |
| 19:07.27 | pb_ | but, first... scrollbars! |
| 19:07.31 | dc_ | :/ |
| 19:07.45 | dc_ | it just needs another expose event added..I will do it later tonight. |
| 19:07.48 | pb_ | ah, cool |
| 19:07.52 | dc_ | need to finish off some coursework first :) |
| 19:07.56 | pb_ | not so cool |
| 19:08.00 | dc_ | :| |
| 19:08.09 | pb_ | what kind of coursework is it today? |
| 19:08.13 | dc_ | I have my exams in june... |
| 19:08.22 | dc_ | guess how overjoyed I am |
| 19:08.27 | pb_ | indeed :-/ |
| 19:08.32 | dc_ | pb_: english..just need to correct some small mistakes.. |
| 19:08.36 | dc_ | and um... |
| 19:08.39 | pb_ | I guess sooner or later you will need to do... revision! |
| 19:08.52 | dc_ | if I can be bothered....my geography coursework.. |
| 19:08.57 | pb_ | heh |
| 19:08.58 | dc_ | and my business studies... |
| 19:09.10 | dc_ | but they can always be done in a sleepless night next week |
| 19:09.14 | pb_ | I don't think we had geography coursework when I was at school. |
| 19:09.32 | dc_ | well you were damn lucky. |
| 19:09.39 | dc_ | it's defently the worst of the lot. |
| 19:09.47 | pb_ | yeah. I think geography was my least favourite subject, so I dread to think what the coursework would have been like. |
| 19:09.51 | dc_ | it requires to much field work :\ |
| 19:10.08 | pb_ | ah. |
| 19:11.22 | dc_ | s/to/too/ |
| 19:11.27 | dc_ | :}} |
| 19:11.48 | pb_ | heh |
| 19:32.02 | florian | this is everytime a good idea ;-) |
| 19:32.06 | pb_ | heh |
| 19:32.23 | pb_ | anybody else have stuff that needs building while I'm about it? |
| 19:35.12 | florian | bbl |
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| 19:35.26 | pb_ | spung: gpe-today 0.02 uploaded |
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| 20:24.05 | cmarqu_ | Hi. |
| 20:33.32 | dc_ | hey cmarqu |
| 20:34.36 | pb_ | hi colin |
| 20:37.11 | chrisime | jo guys :) |
| 20:37.16 | pb_ | hi chrisime |
| 20:37.28 | dc_ | hello chrisime.. |
| 20:50.35 | cmarqu_ | Ah. Will it include time zone config? |
| 20:50.49 | pb_ | Well, kind of. It has a "Set the time" menu item, but it just invokes gpe-conf time. :-} |
| 20:51.15 | dc_ | cmarqu_: aparently florian has just been working on timezone stuff. |
| 20:51.23 | cmarqu_ | Cool. |
| 20:51.25 | dc_ | <florian> dc_: good - just finished some changes in time/date config module. it uses GtkDateCombo now and is able to set some real timezones :-) |
| 20:51.31 | pb_ | yeah, though he didn't seem to be enjoying it much. |
| 20:51.45 | dc_ | hehe |
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| 20:55.24 | pb_ | ah, and here's the very man. |
| 20:57.32 | florian | eeehh.... |
| 21:01.49 | florian | we'll nee some other heros... |
| 21:02.10 | pb_ | heh |
| 21:02.49 | florian | e.g. someone who knows something about gstreamer |
| 21:02.58 | pb_ | ah yes |
| 21:04.35 | pb_ | this mp3 problem is strange. |
| 21:06.38 | florian | yes really, but i have no idea about this.... who did the "streamarisazion" of gpe-nmf? |
| 21:07.00 | pb_ | me |
| 21:07.20 | florian | ah :-) |
| 21:07.50 | pb_ | but that doesn't really mean I count myself as knowing a lot about gstreamer. |
| 21:08.31 | florian | hm, ok - did you try to find out if this is a known issue with the streamer version you used? |
| 21:08.40 | pb_ | nope, not yet. |
| 21:08.52 | pb_ | I think gstreamer 0.6.0 is still the latest release. |
| 21:09.15 | pb_ | You could easily test on a desktop. gst-launch gnomevfssrc location="..." ! spider ! esdsink |
| 21:09.39 | pb_ | is basically equivalent to what gpe-nmf does, and it'd be interesting to know if it failed the same way. |
| 21:09.51 | pb_ | if so, that would certainly indicate a problem in gstreamer rather than NMF. |
| 21:14.36 | chrisime | when i need to allocate an array of 250 char's does that work: malloc (sizeof (char) * 250) ? |
| 21:15.14 | pb_ | chrisime: yes, though g_malloc might be better form. |
| 21:15.44 | chrisime | well, no g_malloc here |
| 21:15.46 | chrisime | plain C |
| 21:15.49 | pb_ | ah |
| 21:16.00 | chrisime | it currently is ... = new char[250] ;-)) |
| 21:16.06 | chrisime | C++ |
| 21:16.17 | pb_ | ah. why are you converting it to C? |
| 21:16.32 | chrisime | it's a c lib, but the guy has that line there |
| 21:16.38 | pb_ | heh. |
| 21:16.45 | chrisime | i thought he was joking ;) |
| 21:17.07 | pb_ | florian: someone needs to invent a good widget for entering a time. kind of like a double-ended GtkSpinButton, maybe. |
| 21:17.10 | chrisime | it's the only line written in C++ in that lib *fg* |
| 21:19.46 | chrisime | pb_, do i have to free the returned char of strcpy() ? |
| 21:20.00 | florian | pb_: yep, this would be cool! |
| 21:20.07 | pb_ | no, it just returns one of the arguments. |
| 21:20.15 | chrisime | ok |
| 21:20.18 | chrisime | so no free |
| 21:20.19 | chrisime | thx |
| 21:21.22 | cmarqu | pb_: gstreamer works with the same command line on the desktop. |
| 21:21.40 | pb_ | cmarqu: aha. |
| 21:21.49 | pb_ | next thing to try I suppose would be the gstreamer command line on the ipaq. |
| 21:23.04 | pb_ | definitely. |
| 21:23.14 | cmarqu | pb_: OTOH, I had a (different) problem with an ogg file (it was claiming that the file was not ogg), and replacing spider with vorbisfile fixed it - wtay helped me, and he aid spider would be fixed in 0.6.1 (or CVS already) |
| 21:23.24 | pb_ | aha |
| 21:23.36 | pb_ | well, I can try pulling spider from cvs and make a new package. |
| 21:23.41 | cmarqu | I cannot do much where I am right now unfortunately. |
| 21:26.54 | pb_ | Okay. Well, maybe I'll try that after I finish making this alarm dialog. |
| 21:29.47 | cmarqu | Ah, gpe-clock, alarm dialog... things are going on while I sleep. |
| 21:30.06 | pb_ | Quite. Well, GPE never sleeps. |
| 21:30.16 | cmarqu | Of course. |
| 21:30.17 | cmarqu | :) |
| 21:32.53 | cmarqu | hm. |
| 21:33.09 | cmarqu | Lag sucks. |
| 21:33.31 | pb_ | :-/ |
| 21:33.34 | cmarqu | pb_: You might get okd mail from my mail queue, please disregard. |
| 21:33.39 | cmarqu | old even |
| 21:33.42 | pb_ | cmarqu: Okay. |
| 21:41.17 | florian | X 4.3 sucks... |
| 21:41.25 | pb_ | oh dear. |
| 21:41.34 | pb_ | I was hoping that X 4.3 would rock. |
| 21:42.53 | florian | i think this is what is does... execpt on one single hardware platform... |
| 21:43.11 | pb_ | ah. |
| 21:46.45 | mallum | florian: what platform ? |
| 21:48.35 | florian | mallum: sgi visual workstation, the problem is the 16bit framebuffer that needs a -wight setting of 556 |
| 21:49.59 | mallum | florian: sgi ? Id leave the original sgi XServer on it, it kicks arse :-) |
| 21:50.56 | florian | mallum: not on these... this are the x86 sgi's :-( no xser |
| 21:51.07 | florian | ver from sgi :-( |
| 21:51.25 | mallum | ah :( |
| 21:57.02 | pigeon | And hi everyone. |
| 21:57.34 | florian | pigeon: hi |
| 21:57.34 | pb_ | hi pigeon |
| 21:58.28 | pb_ | pigeon: sucks |
| 21:59.31 | cmarqu | pigeon: :/ |
| 21:59.47 | pigeon | And still sick |
| 22:00.34 | pb_ | florian: I checked in a basic time selector to libgpewidget. |
| 22:00.42 | pb_ | Maybe we can make a prettier one some day. |
| 22:01.12 | cmarqu | Gotta leave for now. Bye. |
| 22:01.27 | florian | cmarqu: cu |
| 22:01.48 | florian | pb_: :-) cool... |
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| 22:15.00 | dc__ | oops |
| 22:15.02 | dc__ | hey mallum |
| 22:15.16 | dc__ | florian: what about a clock with grabbable hands to set the time? |
| 22:22.25 | PaxAnima | yay! got hw opengl for my ATI card with X 4.3... (and return to castle wolfenstein runs smoothly;) |
| 22:22.32 | dc__ | omg. |
| 22:22.37 | dc__ | PaxAnima: huray :D |
| 22:23.03 | dc__ | pigeon: ? |
| 22:25.30 | pb_ | dc__: yeah, draggable hands would be cool |
| 22:25.49 | dc__ | pb_: do you think it'd be practical? |
| 22:26.13 | pb_ | dc__: not sure. maybe for gpe-conf, but in the gpe-clock alarm window there might not be enough room. |
| 22:26.39 | pb_ | maybe I'll try writing one and see how it goes. |
| 22:27.13 | dc__ | :} |
| 22:36.46 | florian | dc__: cool idea... but not too large please :-) |
| 22:42.05 | dc__ | florian: well yeah, I think it'd probly have to be in a popup window. |
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| 22:45.18 | spung | pb_: gpe-calendar only i think |
| 22:46.09 | pb_ | spung: ok, I think I uploaded that one already |
| 22:46.12 | pb_ | should be version 0.40 |
| 22:53.59 | florian | dc__: this is a good idea, that's why i changed gpe-conf time to use GtkDateCombo |
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| 22:55.29 | PaxAnima | long live Magig Sysrq! trying unreal tournament 2003 isn't a good idea... |
| 23:00.04 | florian | time to sleep a while.. night all! |
| 23:00.19 | pb_ | night florian |
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| 23:48.46 | pb_ | dc___: well, take a look at gpe-clock's current "alarm" dialog. |
| 23:51.10 | mallum | dc__: greetings from the mothership |
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