| 00:00.10 | jsmanrique | # ./libgtk2.0-0.postinst Cannot load loader /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.2.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-png.so /usr/lib/ipkg/info # |
| 00:00.26 | pb_ | hm, that's pretty unhelpful. |
| 00:00.37 | mallum_ | jsmanrique: ipkg install http://handhelds.org/~mallum/downloadables/experimental/matchbox_0.4pre.20030126-0_arm.ipk |
| 00:00.37 | pb_ | I wonder what's wrong with it. |
| 00:00.59 | jsmanrique | during ipkg install gpe2 I saw that this postinst fails |
| 00:01.05 | jsmanrique | and some others too |
| 00:04.32 | moray | pb_: do we know if ipkg do things in the right order? as in, do dependencies always get installed first? I noticed that http://handhelds.org/~pb/make-busyboot didn't appear to run postinsts in that order? |
| 00:04.45 | moray | (hm, too many questions there) |
| 00:04.56 | pb_ | moray: the ipkg in the topic should get it right; older versions didn't. |
| 00:05.38 | moray | ah right - I'd been wondering before if that explained some of our pixbuf / pango installation problems. |
| 00:05.53 | pb_ | make-busyboot runs all the postinsts after everything has been installed, so that should be ok too. Neither of them respects ordering between postinsts (dpkg does), but that doesn't seem to be causing us any trouble at the moment. |
| 00:06.35 | jsmanrique | one stupid question |
| 00:06.51 | jsmanrique | why using ipkg when apt-get exists? |
| 00:07.01 | moray | jsmanrique: size and speed |
| 00:07.05 | mallum_ | jsmanrique: cos apt uses perl and a lot of memory |
| 00:07.15 | jsmanrique | thanks |
| 00:07.23 | mallum_ | jsmanrique: did you try that matchbox ipkg ? |
| 00:07.24 | moray | jsmanrique: even just dpkg requires a lot more diskspace than ipkg |
| 00:07.51 | moray | and the apt-get / dpkg combination is inefficient, since apt-get reimplements lots of stuff that was already in dpkg |
| 00:07.52 | jsmanrique | mallum_: which one? |
| 00:07.56 | pb_ | moray: yes, that was the cause of the pixbuf problem. |
| 00:08.14 | mallum_ | jsmanrique: the one I just posted |
| 00:08.22 | jsmanrique | pb_: what was the cause? what is the solution? |
| 00:08.42 | mallum_ | jsmanrique: ipkg install http://handhelds.org/~mallum/downloadables/experimental/matchbox_0.4pre.20030126-0_arm.ipk |
| 00:08.45 | pb_ | jsmanrique: I don't know what the solution is in your particular case. |
| 00:08.53 | pb_ | jsmanrique: I was speaking in generalities there. |
| 00:09.12 | jsmanrique | one minute |
| 00:09.43 | pb_ | moray: I think the pango thing has also been nailed by now, so we should be all set once ipkg is updated. |
| 00:10.04 | moray | ah good |
| 00:14.25 | mallum_ | jsmanrique: any joy ? |
| 00:15.44 | jsmanrique | one sec |
| 00:16.30 | jsmanrique | I could install it by net, so I had to download the ipk and install it 'by hand' |
| 00:16.39 | mallum_ | okey np |
| 00:16.55 | jsmanrique | I am restarting it now |
| 00:17.33 | jsmanrique | and it looks great |
| 00:17.38 | mallum_ | phew ! |
| 00:17.42 | mallum_ | can you scap it ? |
| 00:17.48 | jsmanrique | one moment |
| 00:17.56 | mallum_ | its was pb's genius ;-) |
| 00:19.15 | mallum_ | jsmanrique: ouch is it all inversed ? |
| 00:20.01 | mallum_ | jsmanrique: or is matchbox running with -use_lowlight yes ? |
| 00:20.31 | jsmanrique | I don't understand |
| 00:20.51 | mallum_ | jsmanrique: its all inversed white is black , black is whute etc, one sec ... |
| 00:21.21 | jsmanrique | mallum_: yeah, that's right |
| 00:21.35 | jsmanrique | mallum_: it is inversed |
| 00:21.54 | jsmanrique | mallum_: it is some kind of ghost look |
| 00:22.11 | pb_ | jsmanrique: on your pixbuf thing, about all I can suggest is that you remove and reinstall the loader package, in case it is corrupt. |
| 00:22.33 | jsmanrique | pb_: which package is it? |
| 00:22.42 | pb_ | gdk-pixbuf2-loader-png I think |
| 00:22.50 | mallum_ | jsmanrique: yeah dont worry I'll have another package for you in 2 secs |
| 00:23.09 | jsmanrique | mallum_: great |
| 00:25.13 | mallum_ | jsmanrique: can you just check if from the dock menu you get a add -> add launcher sub menu ? |
| 00:28.42 | jsmanrique | pb_: no solution |
| 00:29.06 | pb_ | jsmanrique: well, that's very strange. |
| 00:29.26 | pb_ | try running ldd on the object in question. |
| 00:30.34 | jsmanrique | mallum_: what? |
| 00:31.55 | jsmanrique | mallum_: I get it |
| 00:32.05 | mallum_ | jsmanrique: whats in the menu ? |
| 00:32.25 | jsmanrique | mallum_: in the menu? main menu? |
| 00:33.15 | mallum_ | jsmanrique: dont worry, I just uploaded http://handhelds.org/~mallum/downloadables/experimental/matchbox_0.4pre.20030126-1_arm.ipk |
| 00:33.32 | jsmanrique | mallum_: main menu: Contacts, Calendar, Web Browser, Utilities, Games, Other, Log Out, Lock Display |
| 00:33.51 | mallum_ | jsmanrique: the dock menu ... click and hold on the dock, a small menu will appear saying add / move / hide etc |
| 00:35.42 | jsmanrique | mallum_: yes |
| 00:36.20 | jsmanrique | mallum_: rebooting now |
| 00:41.10 | jsmanrique | mallum_: I hope that my 'scaps' answer your questions |
| 00:42.08 | jsmanrique | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.7656.png |
| 00:42.29 | jsmanrique | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.9703.png |
| 00:43.21 | pb_ | I wonder what's going on with the mbmenu background there. |
| 00:44.00 | jsmanrique | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.11830.png |
| 00:44.38 | jsmanrique | pb_: I think that's configurable.. |
| 00:44.53 | jsmanrique | pb_: for me it is worse the png problem |
| 00:45.04 | pb_ | jsmanrique: did you try ldd? |
| 00:45.34 | mallum_ | jsmanrique: cool, that looks alot better :-) |
| 00:45.59 | mallum_ | jsmanrique: the wierd menu effect is just it trying to do transparency with so few colors :( |
| 00:46.15 | mallum_ | jsmanrique: swicth to a theme like depno for a mono display |
| 00:46.21 | jsmanrique | mallum_: yeah, that's right |
| 00:46.29 | jsmanrique | pb_: ldd what? |
| 00:46.39 | pb_ | jsmanrique: the loader that is having problems |
| 00:46.54 | pb_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:47.21 | jsmanrique | ~ # ldd /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.2.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-png.so ldd: No such file or directory ~ # |
| 00:47.31 | pb_ | you need to install ldd first |
| 00:47.35 | jsmanrique | :) |
| 00:47.38 | mallum_ | jsmanrique: and it looks like the add luancher menu is working anyway :-) |
| 00:47.55 | jsmanrique | mallum_:yes, that I was trying to show |
| 00:49.34 | jsmanrique | ldd installed |
| 00:49.42 | jsmanrique | ~ # ldd /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.2.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-png.so libpng12.so.0 => /usr/lib/libpng12.so.0 (0x4000f000) libz.so.1 => /usr/lib/libz.so.1 (0x40048000) libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0 (0x4005d000) libgmodule-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgmodule-2.0.so.0 (0x40078000) libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x4 |
| 00:49.42 | jsmanrique | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:49.43 | jsmanrique | .2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x2aaaa000) ~ # |
| 00:49.49 | jsmanrique | sorry |
| 00:49.52 | jsmanrique | wait |
| 00:50.03 | jsmanrique | ~ # ldd /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.2.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-png.so |
| 00:50.14 | jsmanrique | libpng12.so.0 => /usr/lib/libpng12.so.0 (0x4000f000) |
| 00:50.21 | jsmanrique | libz.so.1 => /usr/lib/libz.so.1 (0x40048000) |
| 00:50.31 | jsmanrique | libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0 (0x4005d000) |
| 00:50.41 | jsmanrique | libgmodule-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgmodule-2.0.so.0 (0x40078000) |
| 00:50.49 | jsmanrique | libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x40083000) |
| 00:51.00 | jsmanrique | libgobject-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 (0x4008d000) |
| 00:51.07 | jsmanrique | libglib-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 (0x400ce000) |
| 00:51.17 | jsmanrique | libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x40154000) |
| 00:51.30 | jsmanrique | libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x401cc000) |
| 00:51.37 | jsmanrique | libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x401db000) |
| 00:51.47 | jsmanrique | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:51.51 | jsmanrique | that's all |
| 00:51.54 | pb_ | well, that all seems to be in order. |
| 00:52.04 | pb_ | and yet gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders doesn't work. |
| 00:52.08 | pb_ | weird. |
| 00:52.55 | jsmanrique | :( |
| 00:53.32 | mallum_ | jsmanrique: you should be able to open up a second dock with that matchbox, by doing something like mbdock --id 1 --orientation north & |
| 00:54.02 | mallum_ | jsmanrique: and if your really brave you may want to try mbdock --id 2 --orientation west |
| 00:55.12 | jsmanrique | how do I close them? |
| 00:56.11 | mallum_ | use xkill I guess |
| 00:56.20 | mallum_ | jsmanrique: could you scap before hand though ? |
| 00:56.21 | mallum_ | ;-) |
| 00:57.44 | jsmanrique | mallum_: done a simple one |
| 00:57.48 | pb_ | hrm |
| 00:57.51 | mallum_ | jsmanrique: thanks cool :-) |
| 00:58.01 | pb_ | PaxAnima's libdictionary.so is (a) not stripped, and (b) not PIC. :-/ |
| 00:58.17 | mallum_ | milkfloat |
| 00:58.22 | pb_ | quite |
| 00:58.55 | jsmanrique | I can't change theme while png is failing |
| 00:59.06 | jsmanrique | any app I try, doesn't start |
| 00:59.27 | jsmanrique | rxvt works |
| 01:00.34 | mallum_ | jsmanrique: can you start from commandline ? |
| 01:01.03 | jsmanrique | mallum_: what? |
| 01:01.22 | jsmanrique | mallum_: I start on X directly |
| 01:02.32 | mallum_ | jsmanrique: without launching from a menu |
| 01:04.00 | jsmanrique | mallum_: not sure |
| 01:04.21 | jsmanrique | ~ # gpe-conf gpe-conf: error while loading shared libraries: libdotdesktop.so.0: cannot open shared object file: Error 9 |
| 01:05.20 | mallum_ | jsmanrique: what about the calender or summin ? |
| 01:06.07 | jsmanrique | gpe-calculator runs |
| 01:06.43 | jsmanrique | ~ # gpe-calendar GPE-ERROR: Unable to load icon "future_view": Couldn't recognize the image file format for file '/usr/share/gpe/pixmaps/default/future_view.png' GPE-ERROR: Unable to load icon "day_view": Couldn't recognize the image file format for file '/usr/share/gpe/pixmaps/default/day_view.png' GPE-ERROR: Unable to load icon "week_view" |
| 01:06.44 | jsmanrique | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:06.44 | jsmanrique | d icon "recur": Couldn't recognize the image file format for file '/usr/share/gpe/pixmaps/default/recur.png' GPE-ERROR: Unable to load icon "bell_recur": Couldn't recognize the image file format for file '/usr/share/gpe/pixmaps/default/bell_recur.png' GPE-ERROR: Unable to load icon "/usr/share/pixmaps/gpe-calendar.png": Couldn't recognize the image file format for file '/usr/share/pixmaps/gpe-ca |
| 01:06.51 | jsmanrique | ' ~ # |
| 01:09.55 | jsmanrique | so, no, it doesn't work yet |
| 01:23.04 | pb_ | mallum: it looks like this business of libmb getting linked with libraries it doesn't need comes about because your configure.ac accumulates all the libraries it wants in X_LIBS and that whole thing gets used by libmb. |
| 01:23.30 | jsmanrique | ok |
| 01:23.40 | jsmanrique | it is late for me (as for you too) |
| 01:23.55 | jsmanrique | I go to sleep now |
| 01:24.04 | pb_ | jsmanrique: night |
| 01:24.48 | jsmanrique | I hope this png problem gets solved soon, or I just relfash my ipaq and isntall your (pb_) ipkg first |
| 01:25.10 | mallum_ | pb_: okey I suspected that |
| 01:25.49 | jsmanrique | just a last screenshot from I the project I am working in |
| 01:25.50 | jsmanrique | http://www.asturlinux.org/~jsmanrique/sda/pantallazo.png |
| 01:26.20 | jsmanrique | well, that's the inmature GUI |
| 01:26.34 | jsmanrique | I hope some coders could add functionality to it |
| 01:26.45 | mallum_ | pb_: I'll fix it |
| 01:26.58 | jsmanrique | you should have a rest |
| 01:26.59 | pb_ | mallum_: cool |
| 01:27.14 | jsmanrique | night |
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| 08:16.34 | PaxAnima | morning |
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| 10:55.13 | pb_ | morning |
| 10:55.53 | PaxAnima | morning, pb_ |
| 10:56.17 | pb_ | PaxAnima: ah hello |
| 10:56.50 | mallum | hey ppl |
| 10:56.51 | pb_ | PaxAnima: I noticed yesterday evening that your libdictionary.so is not stripped and not PIC (at least in the version I have). Maybe you could have a look at that next time you upload a package. |
| 10:56.54 | pb_ | hi mallum |
| 10:57.10 | PaxAnima | pb_: not PIC? |
| 10:57.50 | pb_ | as in, not compiled with -fPIC |
| 10:58.44 | PaxAnima | hmm.. should all the .o's be compiled with -fPIC, or just the gcc -shared part? |
| 10:58.56 | pb_ | everything |
| 10:59.20 | PaxAnima | ah... I just do it with gcc -shared line.. I'll fix it |
| 10:59.28 | pb_ | cool, thanks |
| 10:59.49 | PaxAnima | does it matter? |
| 11:00.40 | pb_ | it's not fatal, but it will cause extra memory usage and increased startup times. |
| 11:00.47 | PaxAnima | ok |
| 11:01.26 | PaxAnima | there.. all compiled with -fPIC and lib and binary stripped |
| 11:01.41 | pb_ | great |
| 11:01.54 | PaxAnima | wonder if should split it into a libdictionary and minipredict ipkg |
| 11:01.58 | pb_ | good idea |
| 11:02.13 | PaxAnima | as gpe-irc will link against it, I'd assume |
| 11:02.15 | pb_ | presumably gpe-irc can share the libdictionary bit |
| 11:02.16 | pb_ | yeah |
| 11:02.48 | mallum | pb_: so I got tinyX working really nice on the pt510 ( colours right, screen rotated ), but now my touchscreen driver suddenly causes the kernel to die :( |
| 11:02.54 | pb_ | mallum: heh |
| 11:03.08 | pb_ | mallum: what kind of death? |
| 11:03.47 | mallum | pb_: trying to deref a NULL pointer I think |
| 11:04.17 | mallum | pb_: its very painful to debug cos the machine is so slow and takes a while to reboot :( |
| 11:05.00 | pb_ | :-( |
| 11:05.28 | mallum | pb_: I will fix it though, I've had this stupid thing for over a year now and its not gonna beat me |
| 11:05.44 | pb_ | hehe |
| 11:05.59 | mallum | pb_: once fixed and woirking I'll never touch it again ;-) |
| 11:06.40 | mallum | pb_: Im just trying to clean up this matchbox linking mess :( |
| 11:07.15 | pb_ | right |
| 11:08.59 | pb_ | something I didn't manage to figure out is where configure is getting the idea that you want libSM and libICE from. That appears to be some intelligence that's built into autoconf itself. :-/ |
| 11:09.45 | mallum | pb_: yeah I think its puts that in X_LIBS, but the problem is more than that |
| 11:10.22 | mallum | pb_: different parts of mb need differnt libs ( eg only matchbox wm needs expat ), but at the moment its just linking everything to everything :( |
| 11:10.31 | pb_ | mallum: yeah. |
| 11:10.49 | mallum | pb_: si Im fixing that up now |
| 11:11.05 | pb_ | ok, cool |
| 11:13.53 | PaxAnima | how long does it take from I upload an ipkg to the feed until I can fetch it with ipkg? |
| 11:15.07 | pb_ | you can fetch it immediately using the full URL. It takes about 10-15 minutes for the Packages file to be updated. |
| 11:15.23 | PaxAnima | ok |
| 11:18.05 | PaxAnima | hmm.. maybe I should distribute the complete /usr/share/dict/words file... I removed words <= 3 chars when I made the dictionary I'm using now, since it was originally desigened to be used with tab-completion |
| 11:19.21 | PaxAnima | complete = the one from my laptop |
| 11:22.09 | PaxAnima | = about 40k words |
| 11:30.11 | mallum | pb_: checking the build it appears libmb isn't linking to ice, but to expat and xsettings niether of which it currently uses |
| 11:30.29 | pb_ | right |
| 11:30.33 | mallum | pb_: what made you think it was linking to libICE ( I thought it was previously too btw ) |
| 11:30.38 | pb_ | also startup-notification I think |
| 11:31.02 | pb_ | ah, not sure. I'm fairly convinced I've seen some part of matchbox link against SM and ICE, but maybe it has stopped doing that now. |
| 11:31.03 | mallum | pb_: yeah I think it uses startup-notification , but I need to double check that |
| 11:31.15 | pb_ | it didn't seem to when I looked yesterday. |
| 11:31.27 | mallum | pb_: yeah I think maybe the move to automake-1.4 may have fixed that |
| 11:31.34 | pb_ | ah right |
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| 13:24.07 | jsmanrique | hi |
| 13:24.21 | mallum | jsmanrique: hello |
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| 13:48.36 | dc_ | :} |
| 13:49.22 | PaxAnima | hi, dc_ |
| 13:49.27 | pb_ | dc_: hey |
| 13:49.36 | moray | hm, so someone's cancelled the meeting I thought I had at 2pm merely because no one replied to the email about it ;) |
| 13:49.36 | moray | hi dc_ |
| 13:49.46 | moray | dc_: oh? any actual illness for us to worry about? |
| 13:49.49 | dc_ | moray: hey |
| 13:50.04 | dc_ | moray: ooh yes...you know...I could just drop dead at any second |
| 13:50.27 | moray | ha, as yet I'm unconvinced |
| 13:50.40 | dc_ | ...oh...huray....I must be very important today |
| 13:50.45 | dc_ | 2 new emails... |
| 13:50.48 | dc_ | both from bugzilla. |
| 13:51.01 | pb_ | ha. |
| 13:51.09 | moray | dc_: I'm sure we can arranged for you to receive more automated messages if you like? |
| 13:51.29 | dc_ | pb_: you really should change the gpe bugzilla to some other address before I start to block it ;) |
| 13:51.39 | PaxAnima | dc_: about word completion and gpe-irc: maybe just do nick completion, and recommend people to use minipredict instead? |
| 13:51.43 | dc_ | moray: I think I'll survive |
| 13:51.50 | pb_ | dc_: ah yes. |
| 13:52.00 | pb_ | dc_: you could just mark your bugs as assigned, which will stop it bothering you. |
| 13:52.13 | pb_ | or (gasp!) actually fix them :-) |
| 13:52.13 | dc_ | what a good idea :] |
| 13:52.18 | dc_ | I might just do that |
| 13:52.20 | dc_ | oh no" |
| 13:52.29 | dc_ | pb_: defently not the latter |
| 13:52.56 | pb_ | yeah, I thought that might be a bit radical. |
| 13:53.13 | pb_ | I see you have plenty of bugs in handhelds.org bugzilla also :-) |
| 13:54.37 | dc_ | oh? |
| 13:54.48 | dc_ | I never know I even existed in that relm |
| 13:56.27 | pb_ | well, I guess http://handhelds.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=87 is probably intended for you. There are several in similar vein. |
| 14:00.22 | dc_ | ahh |
| 14:00.25 | dc_ | heh |
| 14:00.34 | dc_ | they aught to be removed. |
| 14:00.50 | pb_ | I can close them if you want. |
| 14:01.30 | dc_ | be my gues. |
| 14:01.31 | dc_ | t |
| 14:01.47 | dc_ | pb_: if you could just remove the storm section alltogether it'd be better. |
| 14:01.52 | pb_ | dc_: ok |
| 14:01.57 | dc_ | :) |
| 14:02.14 | pb_ | dc_: should we just pull the storm package out of the distribution? |
| 14:02.30 | dc_ | yes, aswell |
| 14:02.38 | pb_ | ok |
| 14:02.46 | dc_ | storm was dead many a centry ago :} |
| 14:02.54 | pb_ | suggest you write to admin@handhelds.org and ask someone to delete it from the archive. |
| 14:02.58 | pb_ | I'll take care of bugzilla. |
| 14:03.08 | dc_ | okay |
| 14:03.09 | dc_ | thanks |
| 14:08.17 | PaxAnima | hmm.. maybe get a bugzillathing for my apps... |
| 14:08.22 | dc_ | :] |
| 14:08.41 | pb_ | If they are in unstable, you should automatically get a component created in handhelds.org bugzilla. |
| 14:08.52 | PaxAnima | ok |
| 14:08.55 | pb_ | You might have to poke jamey a bit to have him rerun the script. |
| 14:10.47 | pb_ | dc_: right, those four bugs are closed. |
| 14:11.50 | PaxAnima | pscalc gave me a total of 0 bugs.. guess it's either a) bugfree or b) very few people use it.... or c) people don't use bugzilla .. I'll go for a) ;) |
| 14:13.21 | PaxAnima | alltough I know of a bit embarrising debug message that gets printed to stderr all the time... |
| 14:18.54 | PaxAnima | does bugzilla use the maintainer field in the ipkg control file to figure how what person to mail the bug to? |
| 14:23.49 | pb_ | yes |
| 14:31.13 | pb_ | moray: you mentioned a few days ago that you had found a couple of problems with the gpe2 bootstrap image. Do you have a list of those by any chance |
| 14:31.14 | pb_ | ? |
| 14:32.07 | moray | pb_: nope, sorry - though I *think* it was probably just the pixbuf / pango configuration things |
| 14:32.14 | pb_ | ah okay |
| 14:32.26 | moray | I'll check I don't have any notes somewhere, but I'm not sure where they'd be now |
| 14:32.42 | pb_ | righto. well, don't worry if you can't find them. |
| 14:34.12 | pb_ | I'll probably generate some new images in the next couple of days anyway, which should hopefully fix those issues. |
| 14:35.01 | moray | pb_: as I mentioned I've to some as-yet-unknown extent messed up my ipaq again anyway, so I may end up being in position to test a new image |
| 14:35.13 | pb_ | moray: ah good :-) |
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| 15:04.19 | mallum | PaxAnima: you need to set a window title for you completer |
| 15:04.30 | PaxAnima | moray: oh.. |
| 15:04.35 | PaxAnima | mallum: oh? |
| 15:05.42 | mallum | PaxAnima: yeah I noticed there no window title when you minimise it the toolbar |
| 15:05.49 | PaxAnima | ah.. |
| 15:06.26 | PaxAnima | mallum: anything else? |
| 15:06.29 | mallum | PaxAnima: also it maybe worth creating another .desktop file with Type=Application so it appears in other menus than just the dock adding one |
| 15:07.06 | pb_ | Is there any way to kill it if you launch one like that? |
| 15:07.13 | PaxAnima | pb_: sadly, no |
| 15:07.23 | pb_ | let's not do that then. |
| 15:08.47 | PaxAnima | could make it take a "-d" to put it in "dock mode", or something, and not do call _NET_xxxxxx atom |
| 15:08.57 | PaxAnima | argh.. the other way around |
| 15:11.08 | mallum | pb_: how do you mean 'way to kill it' ? |
| 15:11.43 | PaxAnima | mallum: guess he means that there is no way of quit the app from within... |
| 15:12.35 | mallum | PaxAnima: you can minimise it and then hit the [X] on the titlebar no ? |
| 15:12.40 | PaxAnima | well, yes |
| 15:13.12 | pb_ | does that work in all themes? |
| 15:13.13 | mallum | so it is killable |
| 15:13.23 | mallum | pb_: yep afaik |
| 15:13.34 | pb_ | ah, ok, cool |
| 15:14.03 | PaxAnima | ok.. I'll add a .desktop for launching it... |
| 15:14.48 | PaxAnima | mallum: where should I put it then? |
| 15:15.00 | mallum | pb_: I think some of the themes were a little broke in older matchboxs for that so I guess thats what you were thinking |
| 15:15.38 | mallum | PaxAnima: mark its category as a Utility I guess |
| 15:15.41 | PaxAnima | mallum: can I have several entries in the same .desktop file? |
| 15:16.02 | mallum | PaxAnima: no, not currently |
| 15:16.36 | PaxAnima | ok.. would it be confusing if I named the desktop file minipredict.dekstop and minipredict (ie. without .desktop extention) |
| 15:16.41 | PaxAnima | files |
| 15:16.57 | mallum | just do minipredict-panel.desktop and minipredict.desktop ? |
| 15:17.03 | PaxAnima | yup |
| 15:17.05 | pb_ | mallum: probably, yeah. I remember it used to be awkward to get rid of xkbd unless it was running with monolaunch -k. |
| 15:17.30 | mallum | pb_: yep |
| 15:20.45 | PaxAnima | righto... a fixed version is just uploaded to the unstable feed |
| 15:21.50 | mallum | I just uplaoded a new matchbox into unstable and a new release - matchbox-panel-hacks ( which is basically a screen rotator dock app ) |
| 15:22.03 | PaxAnima | ah, cool |
| 15:22.18 | pb_ | great. |
| 15:22.36 | PaxAnima | the next step is to clean up the code, learn CVS and commit it somewhere.... |
| 15:23.05 | mallum | pb_: hopefully the libs should be fixed in that matchbox |
| 15:25.27 | pb_ | ok, cool. |
| 15:26.48 | mallum | pb_: also fyi, Im about to change the mbstart script so it checks for a ~/.mbstart first and if that exists it then executes that instead. That should make it easier for people to get rid of the desktop for now until I finish my gtk matchbox frontend |
| 15:27.56 | mallum | pb_: what does 'Not enough room to add .dynamic entry' mean during a prelink btw ? |
| 15:28.28 | pb_ | means the binary was built with an old linker. |
| 15:29.32 | mallum | pb_: okey |
| 15:29.53 | pb_ | mallum: ok. maybe you could make it check for /etc/X11/mbstart also, so one can set a system-wide default. |
| 15:30.42 | pb_ | or, come to think of it, I guess we could just ship a higher-priority alternative for x-window-manager, which would avoid the issue without matchbox needing to do anything. That might be easiest. |
| 15:31.18 | mallum | pb_: how do you mean ? |
| 15:32.06 | pb_ | which bit? |
| 15:32.53 | mallum | pb_: the x-window-manager thing |
| 15:33.08 | pb_ | matchbox installs mbstart as an x-window-manager alternative, right? |
| 15:33.31 | mallum | yeah |
| 15:33.58 | pb_ | okay. so, if we want to avoid mbstart's running-mbdesktop behaviour, we can just provide a higher-priority alternative that doesn't do that. |
| 15:36.00 | mallum | pb_: how about an x-session-manager thing that diplsay a splash screen with each thing starting up like gnome/kde etc ? |
| 15:36.16 | dc__ | mallum: do we have a bluecurve theme for mb yet? |
| 15:36.42 | pb_ | mallum: yes, that might be nice. |
| 15:36.46 | mallum | dc__: Are you making one ;-) ? |
| 15:37.22 | mallum | dc__: it'd be nice to see what the bluecurve gtk theme is like on the ipaq |
| 15:37.31 | mallum | dc__: *hint* ;-) |
| 15:37.39 | dc__ | yes quite ;) |
| 15:37.51 | dc__ | mallum: I guess I'll start work on it sometime then |
| 15:39.59 | dc__ | mallum: I guess I could also make our first icons package aswell |
| 15:40.56 | dc__ | oooh |
| 15:41.29 | dc__ | there are some nice icons that could be a good replacment for the current day, week, month and year icons in gpe-calendar. |
| 15:41.38 | pb_ | ah, cool |
| 15:51.12 | mallum | I think I solved the problem of not having enough panel space for all the new dock apps ... |
| 15:51.14 | mallum | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.10901.png |
| 15:51.36 | mallum | and http://handhelds.org/scap/port.15321.png |
| 15:51.43 | moray | mallum: ha |
| 15:51.56 | PaxAnima | dock mania ;) |
| 15:52.20 | pb_ | cool :-) |
| 15:53.25 | mallum | todo it run an mbdock like 'mbdock --id 1 --orientation east' |
| 15:54.03 | mallum | if your running gpe-setbg ( it segs for me :( ), you can also do 'mbdock --bgtrans yes' |
| 15:54.43 | mallum | but all the above are pretty experimental |
| 15:55.12 | mallum | vertical docks do work quite right yet |
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| 16:45.18 | pb_ | hey walters |
| 17:19.54 | walters | hi pb_ |
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| 18:14.12 | mallum_ | pb_: if I had a kernel compiled with gcc 2.95, but then built modules with 3.2.2 could that cause problems ? |
| 18:14.25 | pb_ | mallum_: yes |
| 18:14.48 | mallum_ | pb_: aha, like the kernel crashing |
| 18:14.56 | pb_ | yeah, exactly like that :-) |
| 18:15.02 | mallum_ | woohoo |
| 18:16.10 | pb_ | mallum_: the kernel has some ingenious machinery to change the layout of structs with different compilers. |
| 18:16.30 | pb_ | see e.g. include/linux/spinlock.h, where it defines spinlock_t. |
| 18:16.56 | mallum_ | ahh , yeah and Im using spinlocks |
| 18:17.05 | mallum_ | cant remember exactly what there for |
| 18:17.14 | mallum_ | but I guess there pretty important ;-) |
| 18:17.25 | pb_ | yeah, you would probably have a spinlock anywhere you wanted to disable irqs. |
| 18:17.39 | pb_ | or if you needed to make some code multiprocessor safe. |
| 18:18.06 | mallum_ | yeah, yeah cos the module gets data via irq callbacks |
| 18:18.57 | pb_ | right |
| 18:19.28 | mallum_ | and queues it till a read() |
| 18:29.16 | mallum_ | doh I loaded the old module and crashed it again :( |
| 18:29.33 | pb_ | doh |
| 18:30.29 | mallum_ | I have to switch the filesystem to ext3 |
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| 19:08.14 | mallum_ | pb_: ooh I have the touchscreen working :-) |
| 19:08.18 | pb_ | mallum_: cool! |
| 19:08.37 | mallum_ | pb_: its completely uncalibrared though |
| 19:08.48 | mallum_ | pb_: but the wirless poo pad is close |
| 19:14.14 | pb_ | mallum_: is there a way to turn off the legacy .menu parsing in mbmenu? |
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| 19:44.50 | pb_ | dc_: welcome back |
| 19:44.55 | dc_ | :\ |
| 19:47.47 | pb_ | it seems to work fine on my desktop and on my CATS. But, if I copy the cats binary onto the ipaq, all the fonts go blank. |
| 19:48.05 | pb_ | which, for a terminal emulator, is obviously not the kind of loss you can overlook :-/ |
| 19:49.59 | dc_ | quite so. |
| 19:51.28 | pb_ | oh well |
| 19:51.39 | pb_ | guess I'll take a break from that and build some new bootstrap images with the new matchbox. |
| 19:52.16 | dc_ | that sounds like a very good plan :) |
| 19:52.52 | pb_ | :-) |
| 19:54.08 | PaxAnima | bluecurve? |
| 19:54.25 | dc_ | PaxAnima: the ultra slick redhat themes and icons. |
| 19:54.44 | PaxAnima | aha |
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| 20:30.13 | jsmanrique | pb_: your ipkg package asked for GLIB or similar |
| 20:30.15 | jsmanrique | pb_: I've installed it after flashing my h3100, and I couldn't install anything after that |
| 20:30.23 | jsmanrique | I am reflashing my h3100, for third time today |
| 20:30.25 | pb_ | jsmanrique: oh dear |
| 20:30.33 | pb_ | jsmanrique: you need to install glibc from unstable before using that ipkg |
| 20:30.42 | jsmanrique | pb_: ok |
| 20:31.09 | jsmanrique | pb_: after reflash I upgrade libc6 and install glibc, is that right? |
| 20:31.19 | pb_ | libc == glibc |
| 20:31.24 | pb_ | libc6 == glibc, even |
| 20:31.55 | jsmanrique | pb_: so doing ipkg upgrade libc6 I should have it? |
| 20:32.19 | pb_ | yep |
| 20:33.10 | jsmanrique | ok, let's see |
| 20:33.22 | jsmanrique | it will take some time |
| 20:34.40 | jsmanrique | it is 3MB of 5MB flashing |
| 20:52.12 | pb_ | ok, new bootstrap images built |
| 20:52.16 | pb_ | uploading now |
| 20:52.53 | jsmanrique | pb_: what is new in them? |
| 20:55.31 | pb_ | new matchbox mostly |
| 20:55.41 | pb_ | as with -pb1, they are just a snapshot of today's unstable. |
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| 21:41.24 | jsmanrique | hello again |
| 21:42.03 | jsmanrique | things are worse now |
| 21:43.24 | jsmanrique | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:43.24 | jsmanrique | Downloading http://familiar.handhelds.org/familiar/feeds/unstable/packages/armv4l/xlibs_4.2.20030122-5_arm.ipk |
| 21:43.24 | jsmanrique | wget: Temporary failure in name resolution: Connection refused |
| 21:43.24 | jsmanrique | ipkg_download: ERROR: Command failed with return value 1: `wget --passive-ftp -q -P /tmp/ipkg-NBiJ1A http://familiar.handhelds.org/familiar/feeds/unstable/packages/armv4l/xlibs_4.2.20030122-5_arm.ipk' |
| 21:43.24 | jsmanrique | ERROR: Failed to download xlibs. Perhaps you need to run `ipkg update'? |
| 21:43.25 | jsmanrique | configuring unpacked packages |
| 21:43.27 | jsmanrique | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:43.29 | jsmanrique | pkg_run_script: ERROR: uninstalled package apmd has a NULL tmp_unpack_dir |
| 21:43.32 | jsmanrique | ERROR: apmd.postinst returned 22 |
| 21:43.33 | jsmanrique | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:43.35 | jsmanrique | pkg_run_script: ERROR: uninstalled package gdk-pixbuf2-loader-png has a NULL tmp_unpack_dir |
| 21:43.38 | jsmanrique | ERROR: gdk-pixbuf2-loader-png.postinst returned 22 |
| 21:43.40 | jsmanrique | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:43.42 | jsmanrique | pkg_run_script: ERROR: uninstalled package gdk-pixbuf2-loader-xpm has a NULL tmp_unpack_dir |
| 21:43.43 | jsmanrique | ERROR: gdk-pixbuf2-loader-xpm.postinst returned 22 |
| 21:43.45 | jsmanrique | ipkg tries to donwload xlibs.. why? |
| 21:44.05 | jsmanrique | and the ERROR messages has been appearing since I've installed xserver-tiny-h3600 |
| 21:44.22 | jsmanrique | because most (or every) postinst failed |
| 21:45.43 | jsmanrique | this is a problem |
| 21:46.05 | jsmanrique | could anyone explain me how to install linux 'again' on my h3100? |
| 21:46.49 | jsmanrique | anyone here? |
| 21:47.35 | jsmanrique | I am getting tired |
| 21:47.45 | pigeon | Hmm. |
| 21:47.46 | pigeon | wget: Temporary failure in name resolution: Conne |
| 21:47.49 | pigeon | ction refused |
| 21:48.20 | jsmanrique | pigeon: it shouldn't be needed to connect |
| 21:48.33 | jsmanrique | pigeon: and with the ipaq connected, I have the same problem |
| 21:48.33 | pigeon | Well it's trying to install xlibs... |
| 21:48.39 | pigeon | Hmm. |
| 21:48.53 | jsmanrique | pigeon: it is already, because I've installed xserver-tiny-h3600 |
| 21:49.21 | pigeon | You're installing matchbox which might depend on a newer version of xlibs, and so it will try to get and install that first. |
| 21:49.44 | pigeon | That will be my first guess. |
| 21:50.56 | jsmanrique | pigeon: it was installed yesterday, without connection |
| 21:51.00 | jsmanrique | pigeon: same matchbox |
| 21:51.09 | jsmanrique | pigeon: I think it is a ipkg problem |
| 21:51.24 | pigeon | Hmm the same matchbox ipk file? |
| 21:51.36 | jsmanrique | same one |
| 21:51.39 | pigeon | Ah. |
| 21:51.46 | mallum | doe gpe-setbg seg for anyone else ? |
| 21:51.48 | jsmanrique | the same that is loaded in my hard disk |
| 21:52.07 | pigeon | Then I'm not sure. Sorry. |
| 21:52.18 | jsmanrique | :'( |
| 21:53.24 | jsmanrique | pb_: why is happeing this to me? |
| 21:53.30 | jsmanrique | pb_: why is happening this to me? |
| 22:04.44 | pb_ | jsmanrique: why is what happening to you? |
| 22:05.01 | jsmanrique | pb_: I get a lot of ERROR with postinsts |
| 22:05.11 | jsmanrique | pb_: and thing doesn't get installed |
| 22:05.26 | pb_ | jsmanrique: no idea. talk to TheMasterMind1, he maintains ipkg. |
| 22:05.41 | jsmanrique | pb_: ok, I was using your ipkg |
| 22:05.58 | jsmanrique | pb_: because it seems that yesterday it was a solution to png load problems |
| 22:06.05 | pb_ | ah,I see. |
| 22:06.16 | pb_ | no, that ipkg is unlikely to help with your png problems. |
| 22:06.46 | jsmanrique | but, are those problems just mine? |
| 22:06.58 | jsmanrique | I have them in both, my h3600 and my h3100 |
| 22:07.00 | pb_ | nobody else seems to be having them. |
| 22:07.07 | jsmanrique | strange |
| 22:07.41 | pb_ | maybe go back to the older ipkg. |
| 22:07.56 | jsmanrique | pb_: how could I do that? |
| 22:08.35 | pb_ | I guess you will have to unpack the ipk and copy the binary over by hand. |
| 22:08.41 | jsmanrique | pb_: where are your bootstrap images? http://handhelds.org/~pb? |
| 22:09.10 | pb_ | handhelds.org/~pb/unstable/ |
| 22:09.50 | jsmanrique | let's try with them |
| 22:09.57 | pb_ | ok, good idea |
| 22:09.58 | jsmanrique | :) |
| 22:11.27 | jsmanrique | pb_: is gpe2 complete for h3100? maybe it is big for it. As I told you yesterday many apps 'die' during start time (calendar i.e.) |
| 22:11.38 | pb_ | jsmanrique: the 3100 image includes everything that the others do. |
| 22:11.54 | pb_ | jsmanrique: it looks like we need to find some way to reduce the RAM requirements for h3100. |
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| 22:12.31 | florian | hi all! |
| 22:12.35 | pb_ | hi florian |
| 22:12.41 | jsmanrique | pb_: right, or reduce apps, no sure |
| 22:13.06 | florian | my xchat is broken... |
| 22:13.18 | pb_ | :-/ |
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| 22:15.25 | jsmanrique | pb_: what is bootgpe2-pb2.tar.bz2 for? |
| 22:15.58 | pb_ | jsmanrique: I guess for people who want to build modified images. |
| 22:16.05 | pb_ | jsmanrique: or NFS-root maybe |
| 22:16.36 | jsmanrique | pb_: aha |
| 22:24.02 | mallum | pb_: does gpe-setbg work for you ? |
| 22:24.50 | pb_ | mallum: yes |
| 22:28.06 | pb_ | mallum: I noticed that my startup monitor window keeps leaping to the centre of the screen since I made it into a SPLASH window. Is that likely to be matchbox's doing? |
| 22:29.38 | mallum | pb_: hmm shouldn't be, the dock bubbles are all of tyep SPLASH and they seem to get positioned ok |
| 22:30.24 | pb_ | It only happens the second time it appears, ie after it's been through an Unmap/MapRaised cycle. |
| 22:30.37 | pb_ | I guess I'll go back to making it an override redirect and see what happens. |
| 22:34.15 | mallum | pb_: have you tryied resetting the window position just before you remap ? |
| 22:34.24 | pb_ | no. |
| 22:45.18 | spung_ | are there any CF Wireless Cards supported by familiar linux? |
| 22:48.25 | pb_ | spung_: I think pretty much all CF wireless cards are supported. |
| 22:50.20 | florian | spung_: d-link, netgear, symbol, socket... |
| 22:51.06 | spung_ | my university hasn't got wireless yet but they'll have it pretty soon they say |
| 22:55.26 | florian | we have :-) it's quite nice... |
| 22:56.19 | mallum | pb_: any joy with the splash ? |
| 22:58.10 | pb_ | mallum: haven't looked at it yet, been working on something else |
| 23:04.17 | mallum | pb_: np, Im squashing X-errors |
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| 23:04.31 | mallum | pb_: any joy with rxvt ? |
| 23:04.33 | dc_ | :] |
| 23:04.34 | mallum | dc_: hey |
| 23:04.43 | dc_ | mallum: hey. |
| 23:04.47 | mallum | dc_: how is bluethingy theme ? |
| 23:04.48 | pb_ | mallum: not yet |
| 23:04.53 | pb_ | dc_: evening |
| 23:04.53 | dc_ | mallum: I started work on it. |
| 23:05.01 | dc_ | pb_: hey |
| 23:05.06 | PaxAnima | dc_: should the word completion be removed from gpe-irc, and use minipredict instead? |
| 23:05.24 | pb_ | mallum: I've been attempting to perfect my 1337 mklibs.py rewrite. |
| 23:05.37 | dc_ | mallum: I do ask though, if the length of the title background is longer then the actual space it has, will it crop or resize it? |
| 23:05.56 | dc_ | PaxAnima: I would think so. |
| 23:06.01 | dc_ | PaxAnima: :} |
| 23:06.01 | mallum | dc_: ewe I cant remember |
| 23:06.11 | mallum | dc_: probably resize it |
| 23:06.22 | dc_ | hehh |
| 23:06.40 | mallum | dc_: oh wait cant you set it as pixmap-tiled ? |
| 23:06.44 | dc_ | mallum: I guess we'll have to live without the little markings along the windows. |
| 23:06.54 | dc_ | mallum: oh? |
| 23:06.59 | PaxAnima | dc_: just keep the nick completion? |
| 23:07.06 | mallum | dc_: what the / / / / / / / 's ? |
| 23:07.18 | dc_ | mallum: yes :} |
| 23:07.32 | dc_ | hrm |
| 23:07.39 | mallum | pb_: aha, the lib shrinking thing ? |
| 23:07.42 | pb_ | mallum: yeah |
| 23:07.49 | dc_ | I guess it could be hard to be able to read the text if I put the ////'s behind it. |
| 23:07.53 | pb_ | mallum: the current version is written in python and sucks. |
| 23:08.04 | dc_ | mallum: I guess I'll just leave them out. |
| 23:08.14 | pb_ | mallum: the new one is (regrettably) still written in python, but I think it sucks a bit less. |
| 23:08.38 | mallum | dc_: woos |
| 23:08.51 | dc_ | mallum: hum |
| 23:08.53 | dc_ | mallum: and |
| 23:09.12 | mallum | dc_: just make a ' / ' xom and tile it ? |
| 23:09.16 | mallum | xpm |
| 23:09.27 | dc_ | mallum: it's anoying that I can't make titleright nor titleleft change with buttonmenudown |
| 23:10.02 | mallum | dc_: ? |
| 23:10.31 | dc_ | mallum: well. |
| 23:11.17 | dc_ | mallum: when you hold down on a button in an mb window border, it changes the current pixmap to buttonmenudown.xpm or something similar. |
| 23:11.49 | mallum | dc_: yeah, gotta give some feedback to the user |
| 23:12.22 | mallum | dc_: why would you want the button to stay 'static' ? |
| 23:12.31 | dc_ | mallum: wait.. |
| 23:12.58 | dc_ | mallum: I can just remove titleleft and titleright correct? |
| 23:13.49 | mallum | dc_: yeah but then you wont have a window title .. |
| 23:14.05 | dc_ | mallum: in what way |
| 23:14.15 | pb_ | mallum: right, it seems to stay in the right place when override redirect. |
| 23:14.46 | mallum | pb_: yeah it would, when you unmap you are not get reparented to root, altering your position |
| 23:14.52 | dc_ | mallum: if I want the background of buttonmenudown.xpm to be different from buttonmenuup.xpm it will look strange. |
| 23:15.08 | dc_ | mallum: because titleleft.xpm and titleright.xpm will still have the old background. |
| 23:15.21 | dc_ | mallum: if you understand me in any way :\ |
| 23:15.29 | pb_ | mallum: ah ok. I didn't realise splash windows were reparented at all. |
| 23:15.35 | mallum | dc_: kind of |
| 23:15.56 | dc_ | mallum: so what happens if I remove titleleft and titleright from theme.xml? |
| 23:16.33 | mallum | pb_: yeah there not but its just a generic reparent to root when a window remaps |
| 23:16.56 | pb_ | ah |
| 23:17.15 | mallum | pb_: and its gets reparented to 0,0 |
| 23:18.05 | pb_ | ah, and I suppose that trips the "move window to the centre if either coordinate is zero" code when it is mapped again. |
| 23:18.16 | mallum | pb_: yes :-) |
| 23:18.36 | mallum | pb_: its a kind of wierd chain of events |
| 23:18.53 | pb_ | yah |
| 23:19.31 | mallum | pb_: I can make it reparent you to the root window of your last position which would probably make more sense for this situation |
| 23:19.48 | mallum | pb_: I dont think it would cause any adverse problems |
| 23:19.52 | pb_ | mallum: I wouldn't worry about it too much, it's probably just as easy for me to leave it as override redirect. |
| 23:20.06 | mallum | pb_: do let jg catch you with them though ;-) |
| 23:20.18 | mallum | s/do/dont/ |
| 23:21.47 | pb_ | now |
| 23:23.37 | mallum | pb_: I've changed the reparent to reparent it to root with you real positions |
| 23:23.55 | mallum | pb_: the advantage of a splash window is that matchbox will keep it on top when you page |
| 23:27.17 | florian | good night! |
| 23:27.28 | dc_ | mallum: do we have an docs for theme.xml ;) |
| 23:27.36 | pb_ | hmm, suck |
| 23:27.39 | pb_ | fonts are still acting up. |
| 23:27.47 | dc_ | :[ |
| 23:27.50 | dc_ | suck... |
| 23:27.53 | dc_ | sleep :\ |
| 23:35.49 | *** join/#gpe mut3x (~mutex@adsl-67-117-70-243.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) |
| 23:36.03 | mut3x | anybody tried to run vlc in gpe ? i can't seem to get it to work right |
| 23:39.23 | jsmanrique | shxxxt |
| 23:39.41 | jsmanrique | I get a time out when almost everything is done |
| 23:40.01 | jsmanrique | Sending bootgpe2-pb2-h3100.jffs2, 97280 blocks: Give your loc expectin al XMODEM receive command now. After re Xmodem sectors/kbytes sent: 81522/10190kRetry 0: Timeout on s loading f ector ACK using xmo Retry 0: Timeout on sector ACK ready for Retry 0: Timeout on sector ACK |
| 23:40.02 | mallum | mut3x: I dont think anybody here is using vlc, you may be better asking in a vlc channel |
| 23:40.55 | jsmanrique | :'( |
| 23:43.11 | mut3x | mallum: heh it's cool ;-) thanks though |
