| 00:24.17 | PaxAnima | mallum: dictionary system is now glib-free... I'll do some testing tomorrow, and then the code is off to the world wide web... should also make dc happy... |
| 00:26.14 | mallum | PaxAnima: excellent :-) |
| 00:26.28 | mallum | pb_: no nothing new, shall I go with that one from yesterday ? |
| 00:26.35 | mallum | pb_: I ca book tommorow |
| 00:26.37 | pb_ | mallum: sounds fine to me. |
| 00:26.46 | mallum | pb_: coolio |
| 00:26.56 | mallum | pb_: are you about tommorow , or at arm ? |
| 00:27.25 | PaxAnima | time to get some sleep... good night |
| 00:27.25 | pb_ | mallum: should be around tomorrow, I'll be working at Nexus. |
| 00:27.35 | mallum | cool, bedtime for me too |
| 00:27.38 | mallum | g'night |
| 00:27.41 | pb_ | night |
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| 01:00.05 | moray | hi pb_ |
| 01:00.16 | moray | term's certainly started now, lots to do already :/ |
| 01:00.23 | pb_ | hi moray |
| 01:00.28 | pb_ | heh. |
| 01:01.12 | moray | no lectures tomorrow though, just a group meeting I think |
| 01:01.46 | moray | and if I remember I'm meaning to go to "Security Seminar 17 January - Russell Coker: Making NSA Security Enhanced Linux easy to use and manage" |
| 01:03.07 | moray | hm, I should really reply to the Edinburgh seminar people with the title/abstract they asked for |
| 01:07.15 | pb_ | seems like a good plan. what's the seminar about? |
| 01:15.37 | moray | my MSc stuff from last year (http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~mma29/2002/harmony/) |
| 01:16.04 | pb_ | ah right, cool. |
| 01:17.56 | moray | to the 'Music, Informatics, and Cognition' group, so I hope they don't point out too many huge flaws ;) ( http://dionysos.music.ed.ac.uk/colloquia/mmm/meetings.html ) |
| 01:18.11 | pb_ | heh. |
| 01:19.15 | moray | I still haven't done my slides for it either, though that should just be a matter of copying appropriate stuff from my previous presentation/from the dissertation |
| 01:19.47 | moray | (I just did the slides in LaTeX for the last thing) |
| 01:20.20 | moray | I never really trust computer projection things, so I'll probably just use overhead slides... |
| 01:20.44 | pb_ | very wise. |
| 01:21.13 | moray | alternatively, I suppose I could get kitted out with a VGA card for my ipaq, then blame everyone here when it goes wrong ;) |
| 01:22.09 | moray | I was also wondering what was likely to be most reliable for playing back music - I might just put them onto CD, to again avoid overcomplex technology during the thing itself |
| 01:24.25 | moray | hm, it looks like the Opie vs. X vs. PicoGUI vs. whatever thread has subsided again |
| 01:25.15 | pb_ | yes, indeed. Phew. |
| 01:28.10 | moray | hm, just thinking about how we could do a program to ease the initial install of useful fonts (until/unless we get free ones) |
| 01:28.40 | moray | it would presumably be worth having a 'download' button and a fileselector so people can put them on via CF if they prefer |
| 01:29.27 | moray | but it's interesting how to do the file selector without useful fonts, unless we still keep some X bitmap fonts and force that dialogue to use them? |
| 01:30.50 | moray | or can the existing free ttf fonts be persuaded to be at least vaguely readable? - they're not really in the default non-ms-fonts gpe-login screen just now |
| 01:32.11 | pb_ | Nils did do some work on hinting them, so I guess that's not impossible. And we could tweak the size and so on to try to make them look a bit better. |
| 01:32.54 | moray | it would of course be preferable if people didn't need the MS fonts at all (even if they remained a prettier option for now) |
| 01:33.14 | pb_ | yes. |
| 01:45.41 | jg | moray: there is hope. Beyond that I can't yet go. |
| 01:52.35 | moray | jg: ok. it's great that you've been actively trying to get some, anyway. |
| 01:53.14 | jg | yup. |
| 01:53.22 | jg | I hope to have news soon. |
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| 04:21.31 | drkness | guys is the gpe2 package called gpe?? or does it another name? |
| 04:43.30 | drkness | installes the gpe package and rebooted.. can't get the login prompt... |
| 05:06.47 | drkness | anyone got gpe working on their 3900?? |
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| 07:09.29 | drkness | guys which package supplies libXft.so.2 ?? |
| 07:23.06 | drkness | hmmn.. guys get the following exception undefined symbol: g_get_application_name" any pointers? |
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| 09:15.54 | drkness | guys anyone tried installing gpe2 on 3900?? |
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| 10:48.33 | *** topic/#gpe by pb_ -> GPE Palmtop Environment | http://gpe.handhelds.org | list of tasks on the wiki: http://www.handhelds.org/z/wiki/CurrentThingsToDo | http://europa.debian.org/bugzilla | that's GPE with a G | *New* matchbox 0.4pre - ipkg install http://handhelds.org/~mallum/downloadables/experimental/matchbox_0.4pre.20030116-0_arm.ipk <---- *LOOK* | alpha quality bootgpe2 images for strongarm: http://handhelds.org/~pb/3600 |
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| 11:04.58 | drkness | pb_: you have gpe2 installed on 3900?? |
| 11:05.18 | pb_ | drkness: yes |
| 11:05.38 | drkness | pb_: tried installing gpe2.. ran into all kinds of problems |
| 11:05.51 | drkness | like the dependencied are not properly matched |
| 11:05.57 | drkness | dependencies |
| 11:06.01 | pb_ | suggest you file bugs as appropriate. |
| 11:06.18 | drkness | k.. |
| 11:06.25 | drkness | could you tell me what you did?? |
| 11:06.53 | pb_ | I just flashed the bootstrap image and then did "ipkg install gpe2". If you want to reinstall from scratch, you could try the new bootgpe2 image. |
| 11:07.20 | drkness | pb_: tried what you said about three times already! |
| 11:07.38 | *** topic/#gpe by pb_ -> GPE Palmtop Environment | http://gpe.handhelds.org | list of tasks on the wiki: http://www.handhelds.org/z/wiki/CurrentThingsToDo | http://europa.debian.org/bugzilla | that's GPE with a G | *New* matchbox 0.4pre - ipkg install http://handhelds.org/~mallum/downloadables/experimental/matchbox_0.4pre.20030116-0_arm.ipk <---- *LOOK* | alpha quality bootgpe2 images: strongarm http://handhelds.org/~pb/3600/; pxa http://handhelds.org/~pb/3900/ |
| 11:07.51 | pb_ | see the topic for location of bootgpe2 :-) |
| 11:08.09 | drkness | pb_: ah thanks a bunch :P |
| 11:08.10 | pb_ | drkness: well, unless you can point to specific problems, there is not much I can do to help. |
| 11:09.39 | drkness | pb_ : /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0: undefined symbol: g_get_application_name |
| 11:09.56 | pb_ | What version of libglib2.0-0 is installed? |
| 11:10.56 | drkness | updating to the latest..... |
| 11:14.34 | drkness | pb_: when I try executing any gpe program get the error " Error converting from UTF-8 to STRING: Conversion from character set 'UTF-8' to 'ISO-8859-1' is not supported" |
| 11:14.52 | drkness | and the error " unable to load icon" |
| 11:14.58 | drkness | this was for gpe-login |
| 11:15.52 | pb_ | you need to install gconv-iso8859-1, and probably run /usr/lib/ipkg/info/libgtk2.0-0.postinst. |
| 11:19.06 | drkness | pb_: get the login.. but its getting respawned |
| 11:19.13 | drkness | killed and restarted |
| 11:19.28 | pb_ | run it by hand, see what happens. |
| 11:20.33 | drkness | "gpe-login: relocation error: /usr/X11R6/lib/libXft.so.2: undefined symbol: XRenderCompositeText8" |
| 11:20.51 | pb_ | looks like you need a newer XRender library. |
| 11:21.00 | pb_ | you should upgrade to unstable if you haven't already. |
| 11:21.11 | drkness | any idea wher eI can get this from |
| 11:21.25 | pb_ | should be in unstable. |
| 11:24.41 | mallum | hey pb_ |
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| 11:32.17 | drkness | pb_: thanks for the info.. will try it out later |
| 11:32.37 | PaxAnima | morning |
| 11:59.51 | pb_ | hi mallum |
| 12:48.38 | PaxAnima | mallum: the predictive dictionary seems to work.. do some more tests soon... |
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| 12:57.59 | mallum | PaxAnima: cool |
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| 13:11.48 | mallum | woohoo! xinermara across 3 displays :-) |
| 13:33.06 | gdsx | mallum: 3 ipaqs? |
| 13:47.15 | mallum | gdsx: no 3 tft's |
| 13:54.54 | PaxAnima | mallum: do you want the dictionary stuff as a static or dynamic lib? |
| 13:59.30 | mallum | PaxAnima: shared lib - right ? |
| 13:59.34 | PaxAnima | sure |
| 14:00.07 | PaxAnima | I'll put the source and the app for compressing dictionaries on the web in a moment |
| 14:02.42 | gdsx | mallum: I think xinerama across 3 ipaqs would be cooler, but 3 TFT's is still very nice |
| 14:05.58 | PaxAnima | mallum: http://v058b.studby.ntnu.no/files/irc_input.tar.gz |
| 14:06.55 | PaxAnima | haven't seperated the dictionary stuff from the irc_input directory yet.. "make lib" should compile the library, and have a look in predictive_dictionary.c for comments on the functions |
| 14:12.27 | mallum | PaxAnima: okey, I check it out in a bit ... |
| 14:13.23 | PaxAnima | mallum: there is also a test app for the predictive dictionary... look at the source for usage, if you need it |
| 14:20.43 | mallum | cool |
| 14:21.34 | PaxAnima | a simple console app, but it shows the usage.. |
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| 14:46.04 | mallum | cool, mb now supports docks above the title bar :-) |
| 14:46.25 | pb_ | cool. |
| 14:50.06 | mallum | now just to hack vertical support in too |
| 14:50.50 | mallum | that should be useful on upcoming 640x480 displays |
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| 15:26.20 | mallum | yes ! -> http://store.frozencpu.com/cgi-bin/frozencpu/cig-01.html |
| 15:31.43 | PaxAnima | mallum: hehe ;) |
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| 15:41.43 | florian | hi all! |
| 15:42.37 | PaxAnima | h |
| 15:42.38 | PaxAnima | i |
| 15:44.24 | pb_ | hi florian |
| 15:45.07 | florian | pb_: ah, hi - what is the status id gpe-todo? |
| 15:46.22 | pb_ | florian: status with regard to what in particular? |
| 15:47.50 | florian | pb_: should the recent cvs version work properly? |
| 15:48.42 | florian | pb_: I modified this to make it run with libgpedb and have some problems with categories... |
| 15:56.15 | PaxAnima | mallum: tried the library yet? |
| 15:57.55 | mallum | PaxAnima: not as yet will do though ! |
| 15:59.08 | PaxAnima | ok |
| 16:00.28 | PaxAnima | mallum: just curious if it works... ;) |
| 16:13.31 | pb_ | florian: ought to be OK as far as I know. What problem were you having? |
| 16:14.09 | mallum | PaxAnima: |
| 16:14.20 | mallum | PaxAnima: the test app works pretty nice :) |
| 16:14.39 | mallum | ok but it segfualts when I hit 's' |
| 16:15.03 | PaxAnima | oh |
| 16:15.13 | PaxAnima | not good.. |
| 16:16.00 | PaxAnima | mallum: mine doesn't.. |
| 16:16.18 | mallum | I think it fails to load some dict files |
| 16:16.25 | PaxAnima | hmm... |
| 16:16.32 | florian | pb_: i added two categories and assigned an item to both. it looks like todo put wrong categorie numbers to database |
| 16:17.07 | florian | pb_: Looked like this: 1|CATEGORY|136080896 |
| 16:17.18 | PaxAnima | mallum: do you get any erros on startup? any "Error loading "... ? |
| 16:18.42 | mallum | Loading 4bit compressed dictionary 38k_dict.cd |
| 16:18.42 | mallum | Error loading dictioary test_dict.cd: : No such file or directory |
| 16:18.42 | mallum | Error loading dictioary nick_list: : No such file or directory |
| 16:19.25 | PaxAnima | mallum: oh, the irc_input... |
| 16:20.57 | pb_ | florian: ah, nasty. |
| 16:21.03 | pb_ | florian: I'll have a look at that when I get home. |
| 16:21.05 | PaxAnima | mallum: don't get any segfaults with that either... (all though it seg.faults when quitting, but I'll fix that) |
| 16:21.19 | pb_ | florian: or, obviously, feel free to debug it yourself in the meantime :-) |
| 16:21.58 | PaxAnima | mallum: tried running gdb? |
| 16:25.25 | PaxAnima | mallum: irc_input doesn't use the lib, BTW... at least not at the moment.. the PredictiveDictionary is based on that code.. |
| 16:27.34 | florian | pb_: no time yet, but maybe next week - first i'll have to find a birthday present for my mother :-/ |
| 16:27.41 | pb_ | florian: heh, good luck! |
| 16:28.43 | florian | pb_: thanks, i'll ned it ;-) |
| 16:28.56 | florian | s/ned/need |
| 16:37.58 | florian | cu.. |
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| 16:54.50 | PaxAnima | ~seen mccarthy |
| 16:54.51 | | mccarthy <~mccarthy@granular.che.pitt.edu> was last seen on IRC in channel #gpe, 1d 23h 16m 45s ago, saying: 'pb_: is it possible that the error is in actually in one of the libs?! that would explain why it works fine on my desktop, but not onthe ipaq (and why gpe-todo *also* crashes on occassion)'. |
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| 17:01.51 | dc_ | :DDD |
| 17:02.09 | PaxAnima | hi, dc_ |
| 17:02.10 | mallum_ | hey dc_ |
| 17:02.22 | dc_ | weekend, yay... |
| 17:02.26 | dc_ | -.- |
| 17:02.27 | PaxAnima | dc_: got a little irc input present, unless mallum found a bug... |
| 17:02.59 | dc_ | PaxAnima: weee :D |
| 17:07.34 | PaxAnima | mallum: it still crashes when you type 's'? |
| 17:09.57 | mallum_ | yep, but havn't changed anything |
| 17:10.04 | PaxAnima | weird |
| 17:10.34 | PaxAnima | mallum: try with gdb, and see if/where in my code it is. |
| 17:11.32 | mallum_ | yeah in a bit though |
| 17:11.53 | mallum_ | dc_: are you all right with that last hotel suggested ? |
| 17:12.19 | PaxAnima | mallum: ok |
| 17:12.20 | dc_ | mallum_: the ibis or whatever? |
| 17:12.35 | dc_ | mallum_: aslong as you're okay with it, I trust your judgement :) |
| 17:12.45 | mallum_ | haha sucker :-) |
| 17:12.47 | dc_ | mallum_: what's the price? |
| 17:12.54 | mallum_ | 70 euro's per night |
| 17:13.04 | mallum_ | approx 50 squid |
| 17:13.11 | mallum_ | less than that even |
| 17:13.19 | dc_ | right, and just 2 nights. |
| 17:13.25 | mallum_ | yep |
| 17:13.38 | dc_ | ibot change 70 EUR to GBP |
| 17:15.56 | dc_ | mallum_: it would seem my dad is okay with that. |
| 17:16.14 | dc_ | mallum_: I guess well, I give both you and pb_ a cheque for the costs? |
| 17:16.40 | mallum_ | fine with me |
| 17:17.15 | mallum_ | you gonna be ok for cash once your out there for food etc ? |
| 17:17.23 | mallum_ | I think we get breakfast at that place |
| 17:17.58 | dc_ | mallum_: yeah, I'll make sure I bring atleast 50 for food ;) |
| 17:18.14 | dc_ | mallum_: so a 72 pound cheque for you? |
| 17:18.35 | dc_ | mallum_: and the tunnel was 110 right? |
| 17:18.51 | dc_ | pb_: so 37 pounds for you. |
| 17:19.50 | mallum_ | yeah you dont have to give it to me till we get there whatever though |
| 17:20.15 | dc_ | mallum_: I'll make sure you don't get it untill I get my room! |
| 17:20.25 | mallum_ | cool |
| 17:20.43 | dc_ | mallum_: oh, are they single rooms, or a double or bunks or what.. |
| 17:21.12 | mallum_ | single rooms |
| 17:21.18 | dc_ | mallum_: right'o. |
| 17:27.04 | pb_ | dc_: hey :-) |
| 17:27.13 | dc_ | pb_: :) |
| 17:27.25 | dc_ | pb_: hey, how much do we think the fuel is gonna cost? |
| 17:27.47 | pb_ | dc_: ah, not sure. I will have to do some sums. |
| 17:28.06 | pb_ | dc_: I have no real idea what the fuel consumption is for that car anyway, so you can probably guess as accurately as I can. |
| 17:28.30 | dc_ | hehe, I though so. |
| 17:28.38 | mallum_ | fuel is cheaper across the channel too |
| 17:29.46 | pb_ | yeah |
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| 20:02.59 | pb_ | jg: was it on the Thursday that you guys were planning to attend LWE? |
| 20:17.25 | jg | yes. |
| 20:17.42 | jg | but I won't br there... |
| 20:20.25 | pb_ | ah, your ankle still doesn't permit travel, or some other engagement? |
| 20:21.26 | jg | snowy winter, crutches and wheelchair in NYC seems like a badly losing proposition. |
| 20:21.38 | jg | Kiethp will be there all week, but quite busy. |
| 20:22.01 | jg | I'm sorry I'm going to miss it. |
| 20:23.02 | pb_ | Yeah, I'm trying to make up my mind whether to go or not. |
| 20:23.39 | jg | pb_: there is a particular press conference or two I'd like to see, as well as the general chaos. |
| 20:24.03 | pb_ | jg: right. |
| 20:25.05 | pigeon | Yo pb_ jg |
| 20:25.13 | jg | hi |
| 20:25.16 | pb_ | pigeon: yo |
| 20:25.47 | pigeon | Heh, going off... moving today... |
| 20:25.55 | pb_ | pigeon: heh, enjoy. |
| 20:26.01 | pigeon | Won't have cable until Wed :\ |
| 20:26.24 | pigeon | See you guys on Mon in fact. :) |
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| 21:11.19 | pb_ | hi joseph :-) |
| 21:12.20 | joseph | hi :) |
| 21:12.37 | joseph | check http://www.atnum.com/~joseph/ipaq/3900/ |
| 21:12.40 | joseph | its not nearly done yet |
| 21:12.41 | joseph | but it works |
| 21:12.54 | joseph | i dont have any time to work on it today though i have to leave in less than an hour |
| 21:12.59 | pb_ | cool |
| 21:13.16 | dc_ | ooh |
| 21:13.21 | dc_ | joseph: looks good. |
| 21:13.41 | joseph | thanks |
| 21:13.59 | joseph | pb_: it seems like on the 3900, levels 90-255 are the exact same brightness |
| 21:14.21 | pb_ | joseph: yes, the range seems to differ from unit to unit. |
| 21:14.31 | pb_ | joseph: the 3900 can go much dimmer than earlier ipaqs, for example. |
| 21:14.32 | joseph | yeah i'll mess with the kernel later |
| 21:14.36 | joseph | and see if i can get it dimmer |
| 21:15.10 | pb_ | The backlight on 3900 is a different technology to the older ones, so I guess it isn't surprising it behaves differently. |
| 21:15.28 | joseph | yeah |
| 21:15.29 | joseph | white leds |
| 21:15.35 | pb_ | yeah |
| 21:15.37 | joseph | instead of flourcent |
| 21:15.54 | pb_ | yup |
| 21:16.12 | joseph | so yeah i have a quick job tomorrow morning then after that i should be able to finish that up |
| 21:16.16 | pb_ | right |
| 21:16.19 | joseph | add a few more modes and junk |
| 21:16.25 | joseph | and a few more features |
| 21:19.33 | joseph | so coming to linuxworld? :-D haha |
| 21:19.42 | joseph | some water main busted at school so we got off early |
| 21:20.01 | moray | joseph: hm, what happens if they find out you did that? ;) |
| 21:20.08 | pb_ | joseph: well, heh, I'm still thinking about it. |
| 21:20.15 | pb_ | joseph: probably make up my mind on Monday. |
| 21:21.50 | joseph | haha |
| 21:23.07 | dc_ | linuxworld is where...? |
| 21:23.22 | pb_ | dc_: Manhattan |
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| 21:23.38 | dc_ | quite a distance then |
| 21:23.40 | pb_ | pigeon: ah, moved already? |
| 21:23.43 | pigeon | Hey... |
| 21:23.45 | dc_ | pigeon: :D |
| 21:23.50 | pigeon | I connected my ipaq to my cable. |
| 21:23.54 | pb_ | heh. |
| 21:23.56 | pigeon | And go online from it. |
| 21:24.00 | pigeon | Bloody cool. |
| 21:24.10 | pigeon | dc_: :D |
| 21:24.11 | dc_ | quite right pigeon |
| 21:24.13 | pb_ | dc_: yes, a reasonable distance. |
| 21:24.20 | joseph | yeah |
| 21:24.26 | joseph | sucks to live in the uk huh :-P |
| 21:24.33 | dc_ | pigeon: ! |
| 21:24.41 | pigeon | dc_: Heh, guess it will take a while before I can continue gpe-irc stuffs. |
| 21:24.43 | pigeon | dc: :P |
| 21:24.45 | dc_ | joseph: ;p |
| 21:24.48 | pb_ | joseph: heh. |
| 21:24.57 | dc_ | joseph: when is it held? |
| 21:25.00 | joseph | next week |
| 21:25.02 | joseph | wed, thurs, fri |
| 21:25.03 | pigeon | dc_: As a matter of fact, I'm not using an irc client :P |
| 21:25.07 | joseph | im ditching school hah |
| 21:25.12 | dc_ | :D |
| 21:25.40 | dc_ | pigeon: I notices |
| 21:25.41 | dc_ | d |
| 21:26.06 | pb_ | dc_: linuxworld is held each year at about this time. |
| 21:26.26 | pigeon | bpalogin on ipaq :) |
| 21:27.31 | joseph | pb_: you know any of the exhibitors there? |
| 21:27.46 | pb_ | joseph: dunno, I haven't looked at the exhibitor list yet. |
| 21:28.15 | dc_ | pb_: sounds like fun. |
| 21:28.18 | pb_ | Nobody I know has mentioned they are going, as far as I can remember. |
| 21:28.26 | dc_ | I guess I should try and get there next year ;) |
| 21:28.39 | joseph | ah, guess it'd suck to come this far then |
| 21:28.44 | dc_ | yes. |
| 21:28.55 | pb_ | dc_: yeah, it's quite good fun. NYC is a kind of expensive place to stay, though, especially if you opt for their "headquarters hotel". |
| 21:29.06 | dc_ | pb_: hehe, yes, the marriot |
| 21:29.27 | pb_ | dc_: yeah, I stayed there a couple of years ago. It's cool, but costs something like 200 quid a night. |
| 21:29.37 | joseph | quid ? |
| 21:29.38 | dc_ | ouch. |
| 21:29.38 | joseph | lol |
| 21:29.43 | dc_ | I'm not supprised. |
| 21:29.48 | dc_ | joseph: pounds :) |
| 21:29.56 | joseph | man when i get my own place all of you foreigners can come stay with me :-D |
| 21:30.02 | dc_ | ;D |
| 21:30.11 | pb_ | heh. |
| 21:30.17 | dc_ | I think my dad is going to the US sometime next year |
| 21:30.25 | dc_ | it'd be cool to try and get to it then. |
| 21:30.46 | joseph | yea but unless you're hanging out with people |
| 21:30.49 | joseph | it gets kinda boring |
| 21:30.52 | joseph | after a few hours |
| 21:30.55 | dc_ | ah |
| 21:30.58 | dc_ | heh |
| 21:31.02 | joseph | last few years i didn't know anyone there |
| 21:32.33 | joseph | ah good local metal show tonite |
| 21:33.02 | dc_ | :] |
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| 21:40.06 | dc_ibook | the energy is failing me |
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| 21:41.52 | dc_ibook | pigeon: I think all that _really_ needs to be gpe-irc for now is the full set of user side commands to be implemented. |
| 21:42.35 | pigeon | That as well. |
| 21:42.48 | pigeon | brb |
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| 21:43.10 | dc_ibook | walters: :] |
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| 21:43.30 | walters | howdy :) |
| 21:43.33 | pb_ | hey walters |
| 21:43.39 | walters | heya pb_ |
| 21:44.38 | pigeon | dc_: So we're going to do all those /command things? |
| 21:44.56 | walters | hopefully that'll let me install gpe |
| 21:45.09 | dc_ibook | pigeon: I'm not sure. |
| 21:45.26 | dc_ibook | pigeon: it'd be nice to have them as a start |
| 21:45.55 | dc_ibook | pigeon: and then probly add some menu items for the less experienced. |
| 21:47.08 | pigeon | Hmm right. |
| 21:47.58 | pigeon | We can probably have some sort of simple parsing stuff that can be used for both user's command and server's command (message) |
| 21:48.22 | pb_ | walters: ah, I hadn't heard that, sounds good. |
| 21:48.47 | walters | how do you guys talk to your ipaqs? |
| 21:49.46 | pb_ | walters: usually serial, ethernet or wifi in my case. I don't tend to use the usb cradles much because usbnet tends to crash my PC. |
| 21:49.51 | pigeon | Gee my room is surely quiet when there's only one computer turned on which is my ipaq ;) |
| 21:50.23 | pb_ | pigeon: heh. |
| 21:51.30 | dc_ibook | pigeon: hehe |
| 21:52.19 | dc_ibook | I find if you do ifconfig usb0 down before you unplug the iPAQ it won't freeze when you reinsert it |
| 21:53.05 | pb_ | dc_ibook: ah. |
| 21:53.27 | moray | with me it rarely crashed, just went wrong often enough to be a pain |
| 21:53.34 | pb_ | my other problem is that I am out of USB ports. I guess I should buy a hub. |
| 21:53.39 | moray | although, given how badly wireless is currently working, it might be an option |
| 21:53.43 | moray | pb_: ah, same problem here too |
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| 21:59.11 | joseph | hmm |
| 21:59.13 | joseph | pb_: how are the gpe2 images? |
| 22:00.27 | pb_ | joseph: seem mostly ok, from what I've heard. |
| 22:00.36 | joseph | neat |
| 22:00.53 | pb_ | had one report of a wrong device name for ppp which stops it working on 3900. |
| 22:01.02 | pb_ | other than that, no complaints so far. |
| 22:01.20 | joseph | the /dev/ttyC0 |
| 22:01.22 | joseph | or whatever |
| 22:01.23 | joseph | ? |
| 22:01.24 | pb_ | yep |
| 22:01.27 | joseph | yea i found that before |
| 22:01.33 | pb_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:01.44 | pb_ | someone needs to file a bug against the ppp package for that. |
| 22:01.44 | joseph | ya |
| 22:05.14 | pb_ | and it appears that our fearless (if historically GTK2-sceptic) leader has tried those images with some success, see http://handhelds.org/pipermail/gpe/Week-of-Mon-20030113/001394.html |
| 22:08.01 | joseph | hahaa |
| 22:08.14 | joseph | my friend got lost |
| 22:14.04 | moray | where? |
| 22:14.40 | moray | pb_: yes, and he spotted the there-must-be-*some*-way-to-quit-this-appmgr feature ;) |
| 22:14.44 | joseph | haha he took the subway way downtown to get some cd player |
| 22:14.49 | joseph | and got lost down there |
| 22:14.54 | moray | oh dear |
| 22:14.54 | joseph | then got lost at the port authority |
| 22:14.55 | joseph | lol |
| 22:15.00 | joseph | idiot |
| 22:15.03 | pb_ | heh. |
| 22:15.20 | pb_ | joseph: whereabouts in NYC do you live? |
| 22:15.26 | joseph | i live right outside nyc actually |
| 22:15.31 | joseph | you know where the gwb is ? |
| 22:15.34 | joseph | 175th street |
| 22:15.41 | joseph | right across from there on the nj side |
| 22:15.47 | pb_ | ah, ok. |
| 22:16.33 | joseph | pb_: theres two wireless parks we can have fun in with kismet, lol |
| 22:16.57 | pb_ | heh. |
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| 22:28.53 | joseph | flashing with the gpe2 image now |
| 22:28.59 | joseph | wont have much/any time to play with it now though |
| 22:29.15 | pb_ | righto |
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| 22:40.33 | dc_ | :] |
| 22:40.37 | dc_ | hum |
| 22:40.48 | dc_ | I hope apple send my airport card soon :} |
| 22:40.53 | pb_ | heh. |
| 22:40.55 | joseph | :) |
| 22:41.00 | joseph | what kind of mac do you have |
| 22:41.01 | dc_ | pb_: I think I might start off gpe-word ;D |
| 22:41.09 | dc_ | joseph: a 12.1" iBook |
| 22:41.09 | pb_ | dc_: apparently my ibook was shipped on Tuesday, I guess it should be here next week. |
| 22:41.17 | dc_ | pb_: wahay! |
| 22:41.18 | pb_ | dc_: excellent! |
| 22:41.27 | dc_ | pb_: I hope you ordered a card too" |
| 22:41.27 | dc_ | ! |
| 22:41.34 | pb_ | dc_: of course :-) |
| 22:41.42 | dc_ | pb_: what was I thinking ;) |
| 22:42.04 | joseph | dc_neat me too |
| 22:42.58 | dc_ | joseph: ah cool! |
| 22:42.59 | dc_ | but. |
| 22:43.14 | PaxAnima | dc_: http://v058b.studby.ntnu.no/files/irc_input.tar.gz <--- mallum says it seg.faults., but not on my machine, so please test it... |
| 22:43.29 | dc_ | in the next 6 months I hope to earn myself 400 quid or so to buy one of the 12.1" powerbooks or such before I goto collage ;) |
| 22:43.38 | dc_ | PaxAnima: right now, I will! |
| 22:44.09 | joseph | thats all ? |
| 22:44.13 | joseph | haha |
| 22:44.19 | joseph | 400 quid doesn't sound like a lot :-P |
| 22:44.37 | dc_ | my parents will pay for the rest =P |
| 22:44.43 | pb_ | ah :-) |
| 22:44.55 | joseph | (not that i know what 400 quid == in $$ :) ) |
| 22:44.56 | pb_ | I was about to ask where you could buy a powerbook for 400gbp. |
| 22:45.03 | pb_ | joseph: about 1.5$ to 1 gbp |
| 22:45.06 | joseph | ah |
| 22:45.07 | joseph | ok |
| 22:45.12 | dc_ | pb_: hehehe |
| 22:45.17 | joseph | those 12.1 powerbooks are *nice* |
| 22:45.19 | joseph | but |
| 22:45.22 | joseph | the only problem i have |
| 22:45.25 | joseph | is no 2 button mouse |
| 22:45.29 | joseph | thats my main complaint with my ibook |
| 22:45.33 | joseph | everything else with it is nice |
| 22:45.39 | joseph | dc_: im assuming you run linux-ppc? |
| 22:45.58 | dc_ | joseph: non other |
| 22:46.26 | joseph | yep |
| 22:46.27 | joseph | yellowdog? |
| 22:46.37 | dc_ | debian |
| 22:46.39 | joseph | ah |
| 22:46.42 | dc_ | none other! |
| 22:46.42 | dc_ | :D |
| 22:46.44 | joseph | :-P |
| 22:46.45 | pb_ | heh. |
| 22:46.46 | dc_ | hehe |
| 22:46.47 | joseph | i run yellowdog |
| 22:46.48 | joseph | its very nice |
| 22:46.50 | PaxAnima | why buy an apple-thing when you don't use OSX? without it, it seems like expensive hw... |
| 22:46.51 | dc_ | and gnome2 |
| 22:46.53 | dc_ | weeee |
| 22:47.00 | dc_ | PaxAnima: exactly |
| 22:47.10 | dc_ | PaxAnima: very good quality expensive hardwarte |
| 22:47.56 | joseph | it is good hardware |
| 22:48.46 | PaxAnima | my next laptop may be the 12.1" powerbook, but I'd keep osX if I bought it... |
| 22:48.58 | dc_ | bahhh |
| 22:49.11 | PaxAnima | I can dualboot with it? |
| 22:49.11 | dc_ | I _did_ use OSX for a while. |
| 22:49.26 | dc_ | but gnome2 is just 10^10000 times better |
| 22:49.29 | pb_ | flypiper: heh. |
| 22:49.34 | dc_ | flypiper: ;D |
| 22:49.38 | dc_ | PaxAnima: yes |
| 22:49.46 | dc_ | PaxAnima: I dualboot :} |
| 22:50.17 | PaxAnima | ;) |
| 22:51.07 | dc_ | pb_: oh, I found out my iBook is _really_ only 500MHz today :\ |
| 22:51.17 | dc_ | pb_: it must have been one of the first models. |
| 22:51.25 | dc_ | pb_: which kind of sucks |
| 22:51.44 | pb_ | dc_: hell. :-/ |
| 22:51.57 | pb_ | dc_: I don't suppose the cpu is upgradable in those? |
| 22:52.06 | dc_ | yeah |
| 22:52.12 | dc_ | not that I would :/ |
| 22:52.43 | joseph | os x is neat |
| 22:52.53 | joseph | but its all non-free |
| 22:52.55 | joseph | well, most of it |
| 22:53.10 | joseph | and netinfo is ... fucking annoying |
| 22:55.13 | dc_ | god yes. |
| 22:55.43 | dc_ | oh wee |
| 22:55.46 | joseph | if darwin, quartz, aqua, etc, were gpled, it'd be the ultimate operating system :0 |
| 22:55.51 | dc_ | powerbooks have bluetooth :] |
| 22:56.01 | dc_ | joseph: no doubt |
| 22:56.35 | joseph | hmm |
| 22:56.37 | joseph | what would be neat |
| 22:56.40 | joseph | is a 2-button mouse mod |
| 22:56.42 | joseph | for the ibook |
| 22:56.46 | dc_ | :/ |
| 22:58.19 | joseph | what do you use as the right/middle modifiers ? |
| 22:58.22 | joseph | F11 and F12? |
| 22:58.33 | dc_ | yes |
| 22:58.41 | joseph | yea its annoying |
| 22:59.00 | dc_ | true. |
| 22:59.06 | dc_ | but atleast it works. |
| 23:04.49 | PaxAnima | ~botmail for mccarthy the PIM source wasn't the latest... will put it on the web soon |
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| 23:15.53 | PaxAnima | dc__: tried the latest source yet? |
| 23:35.25 | dc__ | PaxAnima: oh, seems to work fine for me. |
| 23:35.38 | dc__ | PaxAnima: oh! |
| 23:35.49 | dc__ | PaxAnima: both popup menus segfault it. |
| 23:35.58 | PaxAnima | strange |
| 23:36.03 | PaxAnima | haven't touched that code |
| 23:36.13 | dc__ | Error loading dictioary test_dict.cd: : No such file or directory |
| 23:36.13 | dc__ | Error loading dictioary nick_list: : No such file or directory |
| 23:36.25 | PaxAnima | oh, that's ok (since you don't have them) |
| 23:36.32 | dc__ | :] |
| 23:36.44 | PaxAnima | test_dict.cd will be created when you quits (it's the statistical dictionary |
| 23:36.46 | PaxAnima | ) |
| 23:37.05 | PaxAnima | I'll look at the seg.fault |
| 23:37.15 | dc__ | okay... |
| 23:38.14 | PaxAnima | oh.. |
| 23:39.02 | dc__ | brb |
| 23:39.09 | PaxAnima | it seg.faults. since smiley_list and quick_list doesn't exist (the files) |
| 23:39.14 | dc__ | :/ |
| 23:39.30 | PaxAnima | I'll fix it.. |
| 23:47.21 | PaxAnima | ... fixed it (but now it seg.faults. uppon exiting..;/ |
| 23:47.44 | dc__ | dear.. |
| 23:47.48 | dc__ | oh dear |
| 23:47.54 | dc__ | brb |
| 23:48.01 | pb_ | ________moray: ! |
| 23:48.47 | moray | pb_: er, the usual argument about multiple nicks in another channel ;) |
| 23:48.59 | pb_ | heh. |
| 23:50.08 | PaxAnima | hmm.. running bt in gdb only gives me 2 steps back (and it starts with malloc)... what could be wrong? |
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| 23:53.15 | dc_ibook | monitors are to scary atnight |
| 23:53.49 | dc_ibook | I'll stick with my modest 12" lcd tonight |
| 23:54.07 | PaxAnima | heh |
| 23:56.03 | PaxAnima | hmm.. have tracked the seg.faults down to gtk. |
| 23:57.59 | dc_ibook | right. |
| 23:58.05 | dc_ibook | what kind of gtk errors? |
| 23:58.47 | PaxAnima | hmm... let me think some more.. |