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| 09:57.18 | florian | hi all! |
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| 11:17.56 | florian | bbl |
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| 11:50.38 | ole | Hi all... |
| 11:51.39 | ole | could anyone give me a hint what function to use instead of gpe_render_icon? |
| 12:11.06 | ole | I just have found ist :) bye bye |
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| 13:54.52 | mibus | hi ppls |
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| 14:43.54 | mallum | hey |
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| 14:57.04 | drkness | hey ppl |
| 14:57.12 | drkness | anyone got gpe working on 3900?? |
| 14:58.20 | moray | drkness: people have (but not me, I have a 3600 series) - there shouldn't be any difference, assuming you have the right kernel etc., though |
| 14:58.30 | moray | drkness: you said gpe-dm isn't starting? |
| 14:58.53 | moray | drkness: what happens if you log in, then run 'gpe-dm -n' manually? |
| 14:59.24 | drkness | one sec |
| 15:01.02 | drkness | nothing! |
| 15:01.16 | drkness | executed the command and no display/warning messaged |
| 15:01.25 | drkness | s/messaged/messages/ |
| 15:01.53 | moray | try "/etc/init.d/gpe-dm stop", then gpe-dm again? |
| 15:01.57 | drkness | one sec will kill the previous gpe-dm and try |
| 15:03.00 | drkness | still nothing |
| 15:03.22 | drkness | stopped the gpe-dm :( |
| 15:03.23 | FlyPiper | drkness: you need kbd and gpe-login installed.. are they?? |
| 15:04.10 | drkness | can find gpe-login but *not* kbd |
| 15:04.24 | FlyPiper | gpe-kbd |
| 15:04.31 | drkness | like well didi a 'which kbd' should show it up right? |
| 15:04.34 | moray | drkness: how did you install all this - you said you use bootgpe ? |
| 15:04.58 | moray | drkness: xkbd, not kbd, and it might not show up if it's not in your (non-X) path |
| 15:05.11 | drkness | yep the bootgpe-pb0-3900.jffs2 from http://handhelds.org/~pb/3900/ |
| 15:05.35 | moray | drkness: if you run just 'Xipaq' does something happen? |
| 15:06.36 | drkness | 'Xipaq' is not present did a find on it! |
| 15:07.20 | drkness | is something *very* wrong with the image I downloaded?? |
| 15:08.17 | drkness | 'xkbd' is present ... hmmmmn |
| 15:08.17 | FlyPiper | drkness: it should be fixable |
| 15:08.26 | drkness | guess it can't start the 'X' server.... |
| 15:08.32 | drkness | is that right guys? |
| 15:09.42 | drkness | FlyPiper: is there any howto somplece to get running? so I could try to figure out the problem? |
| 15:09.50 | FlyPiper | drkness: what does ipkg status xserver-h3600 show? |
| 15:10.27 | drkness | nothing |
| 15:10.48 | FlyPiper | hang on my 3800 is at home on the network.. lemme look at it real quick |
| 15:12.09 | moray | drkness: the normal package is 'xserver-tiny-h3600' (slightly different name) |
| 15:12.29 | moray | (though I personally have no idea if that works on 3900s anyway, apart from having not heard otherwise) |
| 15:12.55 | drkness | k... still shows nothing... |
| 15:13.03 | drkness | would you suggest I install it? |
| 15:13.15 | FlyPiper | drkness: ipkg list |
| 15:13.32 | FlyPiper | look for xserver-tiny-h3600,,,,, or xserver-h3600 |
| 15:13.41 | FlyPiper | and ipkg install that |
| 15:13.58 | FlyPiper | you will prolly need xlibs,xbase-clients,xfonts,ect |
| 15:14.51 | drkness | well don't see any '...' common with 'wget'ting... hmmmn.... |
| 15:14.58 | drkness | proxies are set properly |
| 15:15.19 | drkness | ah! got the Installing message completed |
| 15:15.31 | drkness | Xipaq is present! |
| 15:17.06 | moray | try "gpe-dm -n" again then, maybe? |
| 15:17.30 | drkness | installing the fonts the xlibs and xbase were already present |
| 15:18.32 | drkness | here goes nothing |
| 15:19.14 | drkness | Could not init font path element |
| 15:19.21 | drkness | gpe-setbg: No such file or director |
| 15:19.23 | drkness | 0 |
| 15:19.28 | drkness | Trying to fall back to background color. |
| 15:19.32 | drkness | *but no display* |
| 15:20.08 | drkness | looks like its hung |
| 15:20.25 | FlyPiper | drkness: does matchbox &.. start an xserver? |
| 15:21.00 | moray | drkness: it's still not done anything on screen? |
| 15:21.00 | drkness | rebooted |
| 15:21.39 | drkness | yay!! got X up |
| 15:21.46 | drkness | login |
| 15:21.48 | moray | with a login screen? |
| 15:21.49 | moray | ah |
| 15:21.51 | drkness | and the 'werks' |
| 15:21.54 | moray | and readable fonts, or terrible fonts? |
| 15:22.12 | drkness | well for some reason its hanging with the green light on |
| 15:22.20 | moray | (if you they're not all scrunched up, and you can make out the letters then they probably count as 'readable') |
| 15:22.23 | moray | drkness: ? |
| 15:22.36 | moray | drkness: what's hanging, and what light's on that you wouldn't expect? |
| 15:22.57 | drkness | the xserver starts.. and get the login |
| 15:23.01 | drkness | the keyboard |
| 15:23.30 | drkness | and then screen flashes twice |
| 15:23.34 | drkness | and no display |
| 15:23.40 | moray | the screen turns off? |
| 15:23.46 | drkness | I could type |
| 15:23.48 | moray | or it goes back to the penguin? |
| 15:23.50 | drkness | yes screen turns off |
| 15:23.54 | drkness | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:24.17 | moray | hm, it *could* be ipaqsleep playing up I suppose, though I don't know much about 3900s myself |
| 15:24.25 | drkness | but the green light is on.. |
| 15:24.30 | drkness | (the charger light is green) |
| 15:24.43 | drkness | hmmn.. |
| 15:24.58 | drkness | but well this didn't happen at the kernel prompt |
| 15:25.08 | moray | if you tap on the screen / press the suspend ('power') button, does the screen wake up at all? |
| 15:25.10 | drkness | like well the csreen used to disappear..... |
| 15:25.25 | drkness | moray: nope tried that doesn't work |
| 15:26.42 | moray | drkness: what happens if you kill gpe-dm and restart it (if it's working you can start it 'properly' with /etc/init.d/gpe-dm start) |
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| 15:29.53 | drkness | moray: don't get the boot prompt |
| 15:29.58 | drkness | guess its a crash |
| 15:30.36 | drkness | tried setting a serial connection but nope |
| 15:30.59 | drkness | get the boot messages during startup.... |
| 15:31.33 | drkness | yep confirm the hang |
| 15:32.44 | drkness | guys I got to go... |
| 15:33.05 | drkness | moray , FlyPiper thanks a lot for the pointers... and the help |
| 15:33.14 | moray | drkness: if pb_'s here later, he's the person who really knows about 3900s |
| 15:33.48 | drkness | kay moray ... I'll message him what time does he login |
| 15:34.34 | moray | drkness: don't know when he'll be here - he's based in the UK, and is often around during the day (if no meetings), and/or evening |
| 15:34.59 | drkness | kay moray:.... thanks again |
| 16:49.52 | moray | gah! so I've discovered the source of the problem I've been chasing on-and-off for the last few days |
| 16:50.31 | moray | the fonts I'd downloaded (ttf) were corrupt, in such a way that the font loader was looping trying to read them in until it segfaulted |
| 16:51.20 | mallum | moray: nice |
| 16:51.56 | moray | mallum: well, that's one way of putting it :p |
| 16:53.29 | mallum | hmm, my new machine dont wanna boot the debian install disk :( |
| 16:53.44 | moray | ow - what kind of hardware's that? |
| 16:56.15 | mallum | An amd shuttle box |
| 16:56.33 | moray | hm, presumably should work then :/ |
| 16:56.43 | mallum | yeah |
| 16:56.58 | mallum | may need something newer than 2.4.18 |
| 16:57.09 | moray | ah right |
| 16:57.17 | moray | so it's starting to book the disk, just getting stuck? |
| 16:57.45 | mallum | Gets as far as UNcompressing Linux..Ok booting the kernel |
| 16:57.48 | mallum | then nothing |
| 16:58.22 | moray | yes, sounds like you need a newer kernel |
| 16:58.53 | mallum | know of any netinst images with 2.4.19+ and xfs supprort ? |
| 17:01.17 | moray | hm, haven't needn't to install anything recently myself - I suppose you could try to feed something out from PGI ;) |
| 17:02.06 | mallum | aha http://neptune.ca/~steve/netinst/ |
| 17:02.23 | moray | ah, looks reasonable |
| 17:02.25 | mallum | not sure if they have xfs supprot though :( |
| 17:02.58 | mallum | hmm, can fix that later anyways |
| 17:03.46 | moray | hm, now that I've got a working GPE2 setup, what's the easiest way to get a copy (image) of it? |
| 17:04.18 | mallum | can the bootloader do it or summin ? |
| 17:04.30 | moray | should be able to, but I've never tried in that direction |
| 17:04.52 | moray | ah, 'save' appears to mean send by xmodem |
| 17:06.21 | moray | though I dunno if there's some way to get it to save to CF (which would be nice) |
| 17:07.27 | mallum | yeah, you' dhave to ask pb 'bout that |
| 17:07.42 | mallum | I think hes been spending recent days at ARM |
| 17:09.43 | moray | hm, only just put in my contact lenses today, and if feels really odd now - not physically, but as if I can't see properly due to the change (was wearing glasses until now) |
| 17:11.09 | mallum | yeah I used to wear contacts |
| 17:11.52 | mallum | I had hard ( gas permable )ones, the pain was incredable when something got underneath them |
| 17:13.30 | PaxAnima | evening |
| 17:14.56 | mallum | hey |
| 17:15.10 | geers | gday |
| 17:15.43 | geers | ouch |
| 17:16.08 | PaxAnima | it's rather ice where I am at the moment (Trondheim (Norway)) |
| 17:19.07 | PaxAnima | icy |
| 17:25.54 | mccarthy | PaxAnima: where is your PIM stuff available? |
| 17:26.28 | PaxAnima | mccarthy: hmm... on my hardrive somewhere |
| 17:26.37 | mccarthy | PaxAnima: not on the web at all? |
| 17:26.44 | PaxAnima | actually. no |
| 17:27.08 | PaxAnima | due to a lot of work on projects last semester, I kinda haven't done mich with it... want to clean up the code before putting it on the web, really |
| 17:27.19 | PaxAnima | mccarthy: anything special you're insteresting in? |
| 17:27.36 | PaxAnima | (I can, of course, put the code, in it's baaaaaaaad current state) |
| 17:27.40 | mccarthy | PaxAnima: nope, just searching for something to distract me from real work... :) |
| 17:27.46 | PaxAnima | on the web |
| 17:27.52 | PaxAnima | mccarthy: heh... |
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| 17:28.06 | PaxAnima | if you want to see hackish, non documented code, then my PIM source is worth looking at ;) |
| 17:28.30 | mccarthy | pb tries to squash all my most useful hacks :) |
| 17:28.39 | PaxAnima | ;) |
| 17:29.50 | pb_ | mccarthy: indeed. |
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| 17:31.10 | mccarthy | pb_: it seems that I have simply "moved" the random crashing hack so that it is (at least as far as I can tell right now) completely random (I havent come up with a test case that always crashes it anymore |
| 17:32.03 | mccarthy | pb_: why hasnt debian ported libgtk2.0-2.2 to arm? |
| 17:33.56 | PaxAnima | mccarthy: http://v058b.studby.ntnu.no/files/psPIM/ |
| 17:34.10 | PaxAnima | mccarthy: the crap, the whole crap, and nothing but the crap |
| 17:34.15 | mallum | hey pb_ |
| 17:34.41 | PaxAnima | mccarthy: well, actually it's not crap |
| 17:35.18 | PaxAnima | mccarthy: "mess" is more correct |
| 17:35.19 | mccarthy | PaxAnima: is the psPIM_src tarball the latest stuff? |
| 17:36.10 | PaxAnima | mccarthy: don't think so |
| 17:36.14 | PaxAnima | could make it for you? |
| 17:36.55 | mccarthy | PaxAnima: is the src dir? |
| 17:37.22 | mccarthy | pb_: it looks like my problem is that weird gdk_x_error again now.... |
| 17:37.29 | PaxAnima | if you want to test it, you ned the src and db dir |
| 17:38.06 | mccarthy | pb_: is it possible that the error is in actually in one of the libs?! that would explain why it works fine on my desktop, but not onthe ipaq (and why gpe-todo *also* crashes on occassion) |
| 17:39.02 | moray | pb_: I fixed my ipaq setup, btw - it turned out the problem I'd been fighting with off-and-on recently was caused by corrupt fonts (which caused an infinite loop until segfault) |
| 17:44.20 | pb_ | hi mallum |
| 17:44.27 | pb_ | moray: ah, cool. |
| 17:44.44 | pb_ | mccarthy: arm autobuilder is temporarily fux0red, should be fixed shortly. |
| 17:49.28 | PaxAnima | heh |
| 17:49.37 | pb_ | mallum: doh. |
| 17:50.07 | mallum | Im pretty smart like that |
| 17:50.19 | mallum | Only took me 3CD's till I realised |
| 17:50.36 | mallum | pb_: you have a fast athlon right ? |
| 17:50.52 | pb_ | mallum: fast-ish, I think it's an "1800" or something. |
| 17:51.00 | pb_ | let me check |
| 17:51.16 | mallum | pb_: yeah I have a new one - 2000XP, but the bois says its only at 1250 :( |
| 17:51.16 | pb_ | yeah, AMD Athlon(TM) XP 1800+ is what it calls itself. |
| 17:51.40 | pb_ | mallum: the number is not a real MHz, it's some kind of notional "pentium equivalent clock speed". |
| 17:51.48 | mallum | pb_: do I have to tweak stuff in the bios to get it to full speed ? |
| 17:52.06 | mallum | pb_: oh right i wasn't sure how true that was |
| 17:52.18 | mallum | pb_: does the 1800+ fell like a 1800 pentium ? |
| 17:52.19 | pb_ | mallum: well, 1250 sounds rather low anyway. My 1800 runs at 1533Mhz. |
| 17:52.55 | pb_ | mallum: I would have thought the BIOS ought to figure out the right speed on its own, though you might need to tweak something. What motherboard do you have? |
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| 17:53.32 | mallum | pb_: its some via motherboard, I think I have to tell it I have really fast RAM ( DDR 2700 ) |
| 17:54.37 | pb_ | mallum: it should be able to identify the RAM on its own really, but it would be worth checking it's got it right. |
| 17:59.04 | mallum | pb_: okey |
| 17:59.26 | mallum | pb_: hmm, its not booting deb install disk anways :( but win2k installed ok :(( |
| 17:59.43 | pb_ | mallum: which debian disk did you try booting? |
| 17:59.47 | mallum | pb_: just hangs after Uncompressing Linux... OK, booting the kernel |
| 17:59.58 | mallum | pb_: tryied a netinst 2.4.18 and now a 2.4.20 |
| 18:00.19 | pb_ | hrm, that's bad. |
| 18:02.43 | mallum | I may try a 2.2 |
| 18:11.12 | FlyPiper | anyone wanna try an airsnort ipkg i just built? |
| 18:17.27 | florian | FlyPiper: but shure - but first lunch... |
| 18:17.29 | florian | bbl |
| 18:17.51 | FlyPiper | florian: sure |
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| 18:28.56 | pb_ | dc_: evening |
| 18:28.58 | dc_ | evening :D |
| 18:29.14 | dc_ | yahay |
| 18:29.21 | dc_ | time to order an airport card :D |
| 18:29.40 | PaxAnima | evening, dc_ |
| 18:30.14 | dc_ | PaxAnima: evening :) |
| 18:31.31 | pb_ | dc_: cool |
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| 18:41.33 | dc_ | hrm... |
| 18:41.42 | dc_ | I wonder if my smtp server is _actualy_ working |
| 18:58.30 | mallum | dc_: hey |
| 18:58.53 | mallum | dc_: got my 3 tft's today :-) |
| 18:59.21 | mallum | dc_: and a shuttle machine |
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| 19:11.29 | florian | re |
| 19:26.15 | dc_ | mallum: omfg. |
| 19:26.19 | dc_ | mallum: not three? |
| 19:26.24 | dc_ | mallum: seriously? |
| 19:27.05 | dc_ | ah crap |
| 19:27.12 | dc_ | my smtp server is not working.a |
| 19:27.19 | dc_ | and all this time, I though it was :\\\ |
| 19:38.23 | FlyPiper | florian: my ipkg keeps giving me a segfault:( but you can grab the binarys if you wanna play with airsnort |
| 19:48.04 | mallum | dc_: yeah, can only get it to boot potato though |
| 19:48.07 | florian | FlyPiper: i'd like, but i forgot my ipaq... but ok - maybe i'll see my ipaq again before you... so where? |
| 19:48.23 | mallum | dc_: It dont seem to like newer kernels |
| 19:48.30 | dc_ | mallum: the shuttle? |
| 19:48.33 | mallum | dc_: yeah |
| 19:48.37 | dc_ | mallum: is that one of those little boxes? |
| 19:49.59 | dc_ | okay.... |
| 19:50.11 | dc_ | mallum: here comes my airport card :D |
| 19:51.37 | FlyPiper | florian on siffs /home/guest/mark@berrys.net/Airsnort-0.2.1b/src/ |
| 19:53.35 | mallum | dc_: woohoo ! |
| 19:53.50 | mallum | dc_: these shuttles are lovely picece of kit |
| 19:54.19 | mallum | dc_: I have potatoe installed |
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| 20:20.12 | florian | FlyPiper: got it.. thanks! |
| 20:20.39 | florian | spung_: hello! |
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| 20:23.25 | FlyPiper | florian: np:) |
| 20:26.28 | florian | pb_: hi! |
| 20:27.03 | pb_ | florian: evening :-) |
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| 20:36.05 | mallum | pb_: hey |
| 20:36.11 | mallum | pb_: it booted potato !$"!%^$" |
| 20:37.05 | pb_ | heh. |
| 20:37.19 | pb_ | did any of the 2.2 kernels from woody work? |
| 20:39.13 | mallum | pb_: not tried yet, I just upgraded it to unstable |
| 20:39.32 | mallum | pb_: I wanna figure out if Im getting as much speed as I should out of it |
| 20:39.41 | mallum | pb_: then I'll get a new kernel built |
| 20:40.21 | mallum | pb_: do you offhand how many bogomips you get out of your athlon ? |
| 20:40.44 | pb_ | 3060.53 |
| 20:41.00 | mallum | yeah Im only getting 2500 |
| 20:41.08 | pb_ | hrm |
| 20:41.13 | mallum | hmm, let me crank some stuff about in the bios |
| 20:41.20 | pb_ | well, I guess that would kind of match with the clock speed your bios was reporting. |
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| 20:47.18 | spung_ | hi florian |
| 20:52.24 | mallum | pb_: I think I uped the clock speed a little too much :( |
| 20:53.42 | pb_ | heh. |
| 20:53.49 | pb_ | mallum: is smoke coming from the cpu? |
| 20:55.27 | mallum | pb_: no it just wont come on :( |
| 20:55.37 | mallum | pb_: the cpu clock went from 100 -> 132 |
| 20:56.07 | mallum | at 120 it was reporting to be a 1800 ( and 110 -> 1600 ) |
| 20:56.16 | mallum | I thing 132 was a little too much |
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| 21:01.17 | mallum | pb_: ah all back now |
| 21:03.26 | pb_ | ah good |
| 21:07.02 | moray | oh no, I just got dragged into the flamage thread :/ |
| 21:07.07 | pb_ | moray: heh. |
| 21:07.45 | mallum | pb_: any idea what 'spread spectrum' means in the bios cpu options ? |
| 21:07.58 | pb_ | mallum: I think it just randomises the frequency a bit to help with RFI |
| 21:08.50 | mallum | RFI ? |
| 21:08.56 | pb_ | radio frequency interference. |
| 21:09.06 | mallum | oh ok |
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| 21:17.13 | mallum | pb_: aha it seems a jumper on the board was set to run the FSB 100Mhz rather than 133 ! |
| 21:17.48 | pb_ | mallum: ah! |
| 21:18.26 | ade|out | pb_: did you just get called a troll on the ml ?? |
| 21:19.17 | mallum | pb_: could that have caused the kernel crashing probs ? |
| 21:19.18 | pb_ | ade|out: only by benmeyer |
| 21:19.26 | pb_ | mallum: I doubt it, but anything is possible. |
| 21:20.18 | ade|out | lol |
| 21:20.22 | pb_ | mallum: he probably can't help it, poor guy. |
| 21:20.43 | pb_ | mallum: sharp drones are to be pitied not despised. |
| 21:23.21 | ade|desk | i like the 'opie is useful' not a toy thing like X etc |
| 21:25.40 | moray | ah yes |
| 21:26.44 | moray | although, to be fair, I do think GPE would be more 'useful' with synchronisation - but equally, I get the impression that doesn't work too well with Opie either (if you ask, they just seem to tell you to use the qtopia-desktop rubbish?) |
| 21:28.48 | pb_ | moray: the Opie sync solution seemed to revolve around kitchensync, but I'm not sure what its current status is exactly. |
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| 21:33.53 | mallum | pb_: I've just realised who benmeyer is - he hangs out in here sometimes - that was a bit nasty |
| 21:35.31 | ade|desk | whats his nick ? |
| 21:35.53 | ade|desk | or is it plain benmeyer |
| 21:36.57 | pb_ | just benmeyer |
| 21:37.02 | PaxAnima | who is he? |
| 21:37.07 | pb_ | some sharp dude |
| 21:37.09 | mallum | its going crazy that thread |
| 21:37.20 | mallum | not sure what there even all argueing about |
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| 21:37.55 | mallum | someone should just write something in curses, thats controlled with the dpad |
| 21:38.12 | mallum | [setup networking] [install opie] [install gpe] |
| 21:38.22 | pb_ | mallum: yeah, AntiProxy already did something a bit like that. |
| 21:38.42 | pb_ | but as soon as you get into anything more complicated than choosing items from a menu, it gets rather more tricky. |
| 21:39.54 | moray | but I think GPE / Opie images are probably the way forward for most people anyway, if we can provide them without too much effort |
| 21:40.14 | moray | preferably we wouldn't *require* a network connection just to get going as a PDA |
| 21:40.23 | pb_ | moray: yah, all that stuff is done by a script anyway, and it isn't much harder to produce two images than one. |
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| 21:40.48 | pb_ | moray: a network connection is going to be needed until such time as the fonts issue is resolved, I guess. |
| 21:40.58 | moray | yup |
| 21:41.13 | moray | although even those people could copy via CF fairly easily |
| 21:41.29 | pb_ | yeah, that's true. |
| 21:41.44 | moray | people may be more likely in general to have CF (or equivalent) than to be able to get PPP/usbnet/ethernet set up |
| 21:42.18 | pb_ | yes. |
| 21:43.28 | moray | hm, now that I've got a clean GPE2 image (for 3600) sitting here, is it worth me putting it somewhere / doing something appropriate with the full package list? |
| 21:43.58 | mallum | I think we should set up an arm wrestling championship with the opie dweebs at fosdem |
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| 21:44.39 | moray | mallum: only if you record / webcast it for the rest of us ;) |
| 21:45.22 | mallum | moray: why arn't you coming ? |
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| 21:45.54 | moray | mallum: well, I haven't done anything about it yet if I am, would be the main factor.... - but I was worried I'd be too busy |
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| 21:46.33 | moray | mallum: would *like* to of course, though |
| 21:46.58 | mallum | moray: your a student, how can you ever too busy ? |
| 21:47.57 | moray | well, I have lectures and silly work to do, in a couple of weeks I'm meant to be doing a seminar at Edinburgh (so losing time to that), and later this term I'm meant to be supervising (doing tutorials for) some computer science students... |
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| 21:50.48 | mallum | ah |
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| 21:56.06 | BluefoxIcy | scava de UTZ |
| 22:04.26 | florian | good night... |
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| 23:15.51 | mallum | hmm doing a X CVS update I just noticed libxml2 get pulled down |
| 23:16.03 | mallum | I hope xft isn't linking to that over expat now |
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