| 00:02.30 | PaxAnima | hmm.. my dictionary system is growing up to be usefull and flexible ;) |
| 00:09.04 | dctanner_ | weeeeee |
| 00:10.22 | PaxAnima | dctanner_: how is the gui coming along? |
| 00:10.27 | PaxAnima | or the backend, rather ;) |
| 00:10.32 | dctanner_ | PaxAnima: alright. |
| 00:10.51 | dctanner_ | PaxAnima: I've just been talking to my friends. But in the next few horus I should get some more done :} |
| 00:11.09 | PaxAnima | ah.. |
| 00:21.28 | PaxAnima | weeee.... nc |
| 00:21.35 | PaxAnima | nick completion works ;) |
| 00:22.00 | dctanner_ | w00t |
| 00:22.02 | dctanner_ | okay |
| 00:22.05 | dctanner_ | back to work. |
| 00:22.32 | PaxAnima | gogogogo! ;) |
| 00:28.51 | dctanner_ | weeee |
| 00:28.58 | dctanner_ | one dictionary |
| 00:29.27 | dctanner_ | PaxAnima: what dict does it currently use, dict or dict2? |
| 00:30.08 | PaxAnima | wait 2 secs and I'll put out the fresh one |
| 00:30.25 | dctanner_ | right |
| 00:30.52 | PaxAnima | http://v058b.studby.ntnu.no/irc_input.tar.gz |
| 00:30.52 | PaxAnima | there |
| 00:31.03 | PaxAnima | look at the dictioary.h, and you'll see how it's used |
| 00:31.21 | dctanner_ | great, |
| 00:32.22 | PaxAnima | forgot to put the dictionary_add_word_list( Dictionary* dict, GList* list ) prototypes in the header, but they are there.. both add and remove |
| 00:33.02 | PaxAnima | I'll try to beat my brother at fifa again... bbl ;) |
| 00:33.10 | dctanner_ | right |
| 00:33.14 | dctanner_ | I'll put this in gpe-irc now |
| 00:39.53 | dctanner_ | PaxAnima: I'll need to edit some stuff. |
| 00:40.05 | dctanner_ | PaxAnima: so I'll put it in cvs...and we can work on it from there? |
| 00:42.07 | dctanner_ | PaxAnima: and I hope it won't flip if I don't load a nick list straight away. |
| 00:46.07 | dctanner_ | PaxAnima: I'd rather have irc_input_create be passed the buttons and entry it needs. |
| 00:46.25 | dctanner_ | PaxAnima: which means the main.c can totaly control the ui. |
| 00:55.20 | dctanner_ | weeee |
| 00:55.24 | dctanner_ | lots of smileys!! |
| 00:57.42 | dctanner_ | we need some sort of smiley icon/text file now |
| 01:03.54 | PaxAnima | dctanner_: what needs editing? |
| 01:04.07 | dctanner_ | PaxAnima: read... |
| 01:04.19 | dctanner_ | PaxAnima: I've changed irc_input_create to... |
| 01:04.36 | dctanner_ | void irc_input_create(gchar *dict_file, GtkWidget *quick_button, GtkWidget *smiley_button, GtkWidget *entry) |
| 01:04.51 | dctanner_ | okay? |
| 01:04.56 | PaxAnima | sure |
| 01:05.03 | dctanner_ | right. |
| 01:05.16 | dctanner_ | and I've got heaps of cool icons for the smileys |
| 01:05.26 | dctanner_ | so.... |
| 01:05.46 | dctanner_ | maybe we can now make the smileys_dict something like ':-)\thappy |
| 01:05.52 | dctanner_ | # |
| 01:05.52 | dctanner_ | heh |
| 01:05.57 | dctanner_ | oops |
| 01:05.57 | dctanner_ | like |
| 01:06.00 | dctanner_ | ':-)\thappy' |
| 01:06.06 | dctanner_ | where happy is the name of the png. |
| 01:06.38 | PaxAnima | I'll add word cycling to the completion, e.g. if there are the words "foo" and "foot" in the dictionary and the users type "fo", one tab gives "foo", two tabs gives "foot" |
| 01:07.24 | dctanner_ | ah cool! |
| 01:07.25 | PaxAnima | as for the CVS bit, I don't know I have access, nor have I ever used it |
| 01:07.36 | dctanner_ | ah okay. |
| 01:07.40 | dctanner_ | don't worry about it then |
| 01:09.36 | pb_ | back at work tomorrow. |
| 01:09.42 | dctanner_ | ahh |
| 01:09.43 | pb_ | night guys |
| 01:09.45 | dctanner_ | night then :) |
| 01:09.49 | PaxAnima | night pb_ |
| 01:15.46 | PaxAnima | dctanner_: the change to the code was minor, right? |
| 01:18.49 | dctanner_ | omfg... |
| 01:18.57 | dctanner_ | I've done something wrong :/// |
| 01:19.00 | dctanner_ | PaxAnima: eh yah... |
| 01:19.06 | dctanner_ | ackkkk |
| 01:19.26 | PaxAnima | what have you done this time? ;) |
| 01:20.37 | dctanner_ | hum |
| 01:20.55 | dctanner_ | does irc_input.c usually give lots of warnings? |
| 01:21.13 | dctanner_ | like lots of un used varibles? |
| 01:22.31 | dctanner_ | omfg |
| 01:22.44 | dctanner_ | it just freaks when I try #include "irc_input.c |
| 01:23.33 | dctanner_ | " |
| 01:23.57 | PaxAnima | why do you include the .c file? include the .h |
| 01:24.04 | dctanner_ | sorry. |
| 01:24.12 | dctanner_ | #include "irc_input.h" |
| 01:24.22 | dctanner_ | In file included from main.c:25: |
| 01:24.23 | dctanner_ | irc_input.h: In function `irc_input_create': |
| 01:24.23 | dctanner_ | irc_input.h:5: storage class specified for parameter `irc_input_set_nick_dictionary' |
| 01:24.23 | dctanner_ | In file included from main.c:26: |
| 01:24.23 | dctanner_ | irc.h:8: warning: structure defined inside parms |
| 01:24.23 | dctanner_ | irc.h:8: storage class specified for parameter `IRCUserInfo' |
| 01:24.25 | dctanner_ | irc.h:17: warning: structure defined inside parms |
| 01:24.27 | dctanner_ | irc.h:17: storage class specified for parameter `IRCChannel' |
| 01:24.29 | dctanner_ | irc.h:28: parse error before `IRCUserInfo' |
| 01:24.30 | dctanner_ | irc.h:28: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union |
| 01:24.33 | dctanner_ | irc_input.h:5: parm types given both in parmlist and separately |
| 01:24.35 | dctanner_ | irc.h:33: `IRC_SERVER' undeclared (first use in this function) |
| 01:24.37 | dctanner_ | irc.h:33: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once |
| 01:24.39 | dctanner_ | irc.h:33: for each function it appears in.) |
| 01:24.41 | dctanner_ | irc.h:35: `IRC_CHANNEL' undeclared (first use in this function) |
| 01:24.43 | dctanner_ | irc.h:35: warning: left-hand operand of comma expression has no effect |
| 01:24.47 | dctanner_ | irc.h:35: parse error before `}' |
| 01:24.49 | dctanner_ | irc.h: At top level: |
| 01:24.51 | dctanner_ | irc.h:37: parse error before `*' |
| 01:24.52 | dctanner_ | and so on... |
| 01:24.57 | dctanner_ | for a long time. |
| 01:25.01 | PaxAnima | wow |
| 01:25.05 | dctanner_ | yeah |
| 01:25.14 | dctanner_ | but |
| 01:25.17 | dctanner_ | it still works... |
| 01:25.18 | dctanner_ | hum |
| 01:25.21 | PaxAnima | do you include anything before that? |
| 01:25.23 | dctanner_ | with the test.c |
| 01:25.25 | dctanner_ | yeah |
| 01:25.32 | dctanner_ | all my other stuff. |
| 01:25.39 | dctanner_ | that's last in the include list. |
| 01:25.55 | PaxAnima | the test.c works fine, so I find it strange if yours should fail |
| 01:26.44 | dctanner_ | damn weird |
| 01:27.17 | dctanner_ | ahhh |
| 01:27.19 | dctanner_ | hum |
| 01:28.32 | dctanner_ | hah |
| 01:28.35 | dctanner_ | all because |
| 01:28.44 | dctanner_ | of a ; I left out in irc_input.h |
| 01:29.48 | PaxAnima | heh ;) |
| 01:31.32 | dctanner_ | weeeeeeeeeeee |
| 01:31.34 | dctanner_ | how cute!!! |
| 01:33.24 | dctanner_ | http://handhelds.org/~dctanner/gpe-irc3.png |
| 01:33.25 | dctanner_ | :D |
| 01:33.45 | dctanner_ | how ubercute is that |
| 01:33.50 | PaxAnima | nice ;) |
| 01:34.00 | dctanner_ | hehe |
| 01:35.51 | dctanner_ | works great! |
| 01:35.55 | dctanner_ | lemme try my new dict. |
| 01:36.38 | dctanner_ | ack |
| 01:37.03 | dctanner_ | it seems to be adding the : for all words. |
| 01:37.11 | PaxAnima | dctanner_: hmm.. it should'n |
| 01:37.16 | dctanner_ | it is :/ |
| 01:37.22 | PaxAnima | no it's not! ;) |
| 01:37.29 | dctanner_ | and I havn't even called set_nick_dictionary |
| 01:37.29 | dctanner_ | :/ |
| 01:37.33 | PaxAnima | weird |
| 01:37.38 | dctanner_ | just try it. |
| 01:38.20 | PaxAnima | ah.. |
| 01:38.25 | dctanner_ | ah:) |
| 01:38.42 | PaxAnima | fixed it ;) |
| 01:38.52 | dctanner_ | cool |
| 01:38.57 | PaxAnima | had forgotten a tiny line |
| 01:39.01 | dctanner_ | :) |
| 01:39.04 | dctanner_ | wanna tell me? |
| 01:39.14 | dctanner_ | so I can just fix ot for cvs |
| 01:39.43 | PaxAnima | on line 132 |
| 01:40.04 | PaxAnima | if( predicted_word_is_nick && .... |
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| 01:41.11 | PaxAnima | on line 132 |
| 01:41.13 | PaxAnima | if( predicted_word_is_nick && .... |
| 01:41.24 | dctanner__ | right |
| 01:41.49 | dctanner__ | sorry. |
| 01:41.56 | dctanner__ | PaxAnima: can I have some context? |
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| 01:42.49 | PaxAnima | in irc_input.c |
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| 01:43.17 | dctanner__ | PaxAnima: what is the original line? |
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| 01:43.30 | dctanner__ | PaxAnima: since my line numbers have changed. |
| 01:43.36 | PaxAnima | oh |
| 01:43.47 | dctanner__ | context :) |
| 01:43.55 | PaxAnima | in irc_input_complete_word() |
| 01:44.09 | PaxAnima | the second if() |
| 01:44.25 | dctanner__ | if( gtk_editable_get_position( GTK_EDITABLE( irc_input_entry ) ) == word_pos ) { |
| 01:44.44 | PaxAnima | yes |
| 01:45.04 | dctanner__ | right |
| 01:45.57 | dctanner__ | ah |
| 01:46.17 | dctanner__ | next thing, a backspace need to delete the current suggestion aswell |
| 01:47.15 | PaxAnima | deleting of text is a bit sketchy at the moment... |
| 01:47.20 | PaxAnima | I'll look at it tomorrow |
| 01:47.29 | dctanner__ | right'o |
| 01:47.59 | PaxAnima | I currently assume that the user doesn't move the cursor manually or insert large amounts of text by pasting data |
| 01:48.15 | dctanner__ | right |
| 01:54.32 | dctanner__ | pigeon: so...do you want to work on the parser :) |
| 01:54.38 | dctanner__ | pigeon: or have you started already? |
| 01:55.15 | pigeon | dctanner__: Well I'd like to start. Not started yet. It's still work day for me at the moment. |
| 01:55.23 | pigeon | Work-from-home-day ;) |
| 01:55.27 | dctanner__ | pigeon: no problem :) |
| 01:59.01 | dctanner__ | pigeon: so, I guess I use PRIVMSG to send a message to a channel? |
| 01:59.30 | pigeon | Yes. |
| 01:59.48 | pigeon | Use irc_privmsg |
| 01:59.55 | dctanner__ | :) |
| 02:09.21 | PaxAnima | dctanner__: word cycling almost working... think some sleep might make it work... ,) |
| 02:09.25 | PaxAnima | good night |
| 02:09.57 | dctanner__ | night PaxAnima |
| 02:10.03 | dctanner__ | PaxAnima: good job :D |
| 02:11.38 | PaxAnima | when I must use diry hacks to make things work, I take it as a sign of me needing sleep ;) |
| 02:12.00 | dctanner__ | yep. |
| 02:23.50 | pigeon | So what's in cvs at the moment? |
| 02:30.23 | dctanner__ | well |
| 02:31.31 | dctanner__ | pigeon: have a look...I've added PaxAnima's stuff in. |
| 02:31.41 | dctanner__ | pigeon: and started the channel handling code. |
| 02:31.48 | dctanner__ | pigeon: but there's some problem with make. |
| 02:32.02 | dctanner__ | pigeon: and it says undefined reference to `irc_server_join_channel' |
| 02:32.12 | dctanner__ | pigeon: but obviously that's defined in irc.h :/ |
| 02:32.12 | pigeon | Hmm. |
| 02:32.22 | pigeon | That's linking time. |
| 02:32.30 | dctanner__ | I realised... |
| 02:32.32 | dctanner__ | but :/ |
| 02:32.44 | pigeon | BTW. |
| 02:32.49 | pigeon | My function is irc_join |
| 02:32.50 | dctanner__ | oh shit... |
| 02:33.06 | pigeon | irc_server_join not used anymore. |
| 02:33.09 | dctanner__ | I did rm *.c instead of *.o |
| 02:33.16 | dctanner__ | omfg...thank god I just commited.. |
| 02:33.25 | pigeon | Hehehehehehe |
| 02:33.35 | pigeon | Pretty good xmas holidays for you? ;) |
| 02:33.36 | dctanner__ | that was close :} |
| 02:33.51 | dctanner__ | well yeah, this is the hight of fun :))) |
| 02:33.58 | dctanner__ | writing irc servers... |
| 02:34.01 | dctanner__ | clients. |
| 02:34.11 | dctanner__ | believe me, better than being stuck in a classroom. |
| 02:34.12 | dctanner__ | : |
| 02:34.13 | dctanner__ | :D |
| 02:34.36 | pigeon | That reminds me of my irc server bridge ;) |
| 02:34.56 | dctanner__ | oh? |
| 02:35.36 | pigeon | Those were the days when I was doing codes for an irc network in hk, uni days. |
| 02:35.52 | dctanner__ | wow, cool :) |
| 02:36.21 | dctanner__ | pigeon: was it fun? |
| 02:36.51 | pigeon | Yeah fun. |
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| 02:37.35 | pigeon | Was doing some work with irc and chinese. |
| 02:37.36 | dctanner__ | guess that didn't work |
| 02:37.43 | dctanner__ | wee :) |
| 02:37.54 | dctanner__ | pigeon: sounds like fun indeed. |
| 02:38.26 | pigeon | Yeah fun making chinese to work on irc. |
| 02:38.35 | pigeon | Chinese nickname that is. |
| 02:38.50 | dctanner__ | hah, hehe |
| 02:38.54 | pigeon | And there's one problem that still exists now. |
| 02:39.16 | pigeon | Which is almost no good way to fix yet. |
| 02:39.24 | dctanner__ | that you we're supposed to fix ;p |
| 02:39.31 | pigeon | Heh. |
| 02:39.34 | pigeon | Can't be fixed. |
| 02:40.35 | dctanner__ | what is the problem? |
| 02:40.55 | pigeon | Hmm... as we all know, irc nick are case insensitive. |
| 02:41.16 | pigeon | Which means if I'm pigeon, you can't nick yourself PIGEON or PiGeon, etc. |
| 02:41.50 | p1geon | :) |
| 02:41.50 | dctanner__ | quite |
| 02:41.58 | dctanner__ | yes |
| 02:42.08 | dctanner__ | hah |
| 02:42.17 | pigeon | However with chinese big5 characters, which are two-bytes, the second byte could be any normal letters, for example, A and a. |
| 02:42.49 | pigeon | With A and a, they give a different chinese character. |
| 02:42.49 | dc_ | okay. |
| 02:43.09 | pigeon | So there's always a tiny bug checking for duplicate nick. |
| 02:43.28 | pigeon | It's pretty minor problem, but it still just exists, almost forever ;) |
| 02:43.52 | dc_ | oh dear. |
| 02:43.52 | dc_ | heh yeah |
| 02:46.06 | pigeon | And then someone will say... |
| 02:46.16 | pigeon | unicode! |
| 02:46.32 | dc_ | quite! |
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| 02:50.55 | dc_ | hope too many people don't mind...it is late ;p |
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| 02:51.13 | dc_ | ah ha... |
| 02:51.17 | dc_ | getting there! |
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| 02:53.05 | dc_ | weeeee |
| 02:53.10 | dc_ | huray |
| 02:54.00 | pigeon | Cool, the word auto completion thingy works for when I type pige! :P |
| 02:54.09 | dc_ | hah |
| 02:54.10 | dc_ | :D |
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| 02:55.50 | dc_ | great. |
| 02:56.10 | dc_ | pigeon: now it will create tabs for new channels with the join_channel command. |
| 02:56.26 | dc_ | pigeon: and it's able to switch between them |
| 02:56.33 | dc_ | so time...for input :D |
| 02:56.39 | dc_ | or rather, output! |
| 02:57.32 | dc_ | then I'll commit |
| 03:01.42 | dc_ | ack. |
| 03:02.19 | dc_ | I put emacs in some strange mode |
| 03:12.53 | dc_ | damn :/ |
| 03:13.12 | dc_ | I can't connect a widget twice :[ |
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| 03:56.07 | dctanner_ | rihg |
| 03:56.10 | dctanner_ | right |
| 03:56.20 | dctanner_ | I'll have to work on it more in the morning :) |
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| 11:22.03 | pigeon | Good morning pb_ |
| 11:22.11 | pb_ | hi pigeon |
| 11:30.37 | pb_ | pigeon: I'm going to try to build some new dillo packages in the next couple of days. Have you considered asking Jorge to apply your patch for the "stack" panel to his tree? |
| 11:33.31 | pigeon | pb_: Hmm I haven't. One thing is, I did the stack along with my scaling patch, so it was kind of hard to incorporate that. |
| 11:34.48 | pb_ | pigeon: yah, I remember I had to split that up into two separate patches. The debian/familiar dillo build uses your stacked panel but the Reedstrom image scaling hack. |
| 11:35.36 | pb_ | I think the stack patch ought to be fairly uncontroversial, so there shouldn't be any problem with having that one applied. With the scaling one it's less clear what the right thing is. |
| 11:36.03 | pigeon | Oh... it seems that dillo's people weren't that interested in having the scaling feature last time I remember. |
| 11:36.46 | pigeon | And people like me or other ipaq people, did hacks to do scaling, which is usually not done in a very clean way. |
| 11:37.46 | pb_ | Yeah, I think it's certainly true that the dillo people are not all that excited about scaling. If we could come up with a patch that implemented it cleanly, they could probably be persuaded to apply it, but I don't think they are going to like the existing hacks very much. |
| 11:39.12 | pigeon | Yeah... but at the end, only dillo developers will understand all those dillo widgets and all the internal stuffs. |
| 11:39.13 | pb_ | It might be possible to get some variant of the Reedstrom image scaling hack incorporated. That one at least has a very local scope, since it just rescales all images by a particular amount prior to displaying them: it doesn't have to tinker with the actual layout code at all. I guess the biggest problem with it at the moment is that it is only configurable in dillorc, and the scale ratio is fixed at 50%. |
| 11:39.40 | pigeon | Mind you, last time when I glanced thru dillo's code, their code aren't that "ready" to implement a clean scaling. |
| 11:40.11 | pigeon | Stuffs are pretty much everywhere. |
| 11:40.16 | pb_ | Indeed. |
| 11:40.54 | pigeon | Like, I did the scaling for image and text, and then that won't work if you're loading an image directly. And then scaling for tables, etc. |
| 11:41.43 | pigeon | A clean scaling requires a lot of redesign in their widgets I imagine. |
| 11:41.52 | pigeon | Which is kind of scary :} |
| 11:42.09 | pb_ | Right, yeah. That's why I think the simpler image scaling thing seems like the best bet at the moment. Well, also, I'm not at all clear that scaling fonts is the right thing to do anyway: the user already has control of that, and one would assume they have selected the smallest size they are comfortable with from the outset. |
| 11:42.35 | pigeon | With the dillorc for font size you mean? |
| 11:42.47 | pb_ | pigeon: right. |
| 11:42.55 | pigeon | Can you change font size on the fly yet? |
| 11:43.21 | pb_ | I dunno. It would be nice to make it configurable via XSETTINGS, so you could change it at runtime with xst or some future gpe-control-panel. |
| 11:43.56 | pb_ | Or maybe add something to the dillo UI to control it directly, but the toolbar is already fairly busy and I am reluctant to add yet more buttons there. |
| 11:44.08 | pigeon | Hehe yeah... |
| 11:46.35 | pigeon | In fact, I don't believe there're almost no browser that does scaling on the fly for both image and text. |
| 11:46.40 | pigeon | The only one I know of is opera. |
| 11:47.06 | pb_ | Right, yeah. |
| 11:47.06 | pigeon | Hmm, the IE on pocketpc can do "fit to screen" or something. |
| 11:47.11 | pigeon | But not actually scaling. |
| 11:47.35 | pigeon | The new dillo uses ttf now right? |
| 11:47.58 | pb_ | Yeah, I think so. |
| 11:48.21 | pb_ | Again, that isn't in the "official" dillo, that's still GTK1 only. But there are patches for GTK2/ttf support. |
| 11:48.30 | pigeon | Ah... |
| 11:48.45 | pb_ | The dillo2 in unstable has gtk2 included (obviously). |
| 11:49.00 | pigeon | Right, dillo people are pretty strict with codes and patches. |
| 11:49.17 | pb_ | Yah. I just got them to agree to apply my IPv6 patch, but it can be quite tricky to get stuff in. |
| 11:50.41 | pigeon | I guess someone would have to maintain a dillo-familiar tree then ;) |
| 11:51.31 | pb_ | Yeah, that's more or less what I do already. I use the same sources to build packages for both debian and familiar. |
| 11:52.17 | pigeon | Heh, I actually didn't realize you maintain the dillo on debian until just right now. :) |
| 11:59.17 | pb_ | Heh. |
| 13:23.46 | PaxAnima | morning |
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| 14:57.44 | pb_ | prpplague: morning |
| 14:58.48 | prpplague | morning |
| 15:01.46 | prpplague | hows life with gtk/gpe ? |
| 15:02.07 | pb_ | well, right now I'm at the office working on some poxy Cirrus Logic board. |
| 15:02.58 | prpplague | ohh, which one? |
| 15:03.00 | pb_ | seems to be determined to run only at 35MHz rather than 70 for some reason. |
| 15:03.08 | pb_ | 7312 |
| 15:03.15 | prpplague | ahh |
| 15:03.25 | prpplague | pb_: not impressed? |
| 15:04.10 | pb_ | not so far. the first board they sent was damaged, despite having a QA pass sticker on the case. the documentation is poor, the hardware is buggy. |
| 15:04.40 | pb_ | admittedly, none of this stuff is at all unusual, but still. |
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| 16:43.29 | prpplague | pb_: ya the cl folks have been less that high on my list of quality docs |
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| 17:38.28 | dc_ | good evening :D |
| 17:38.38 | dc_ | pb_: :) |
| 17:38.41 | dc_ | pigeon: :) |
| 17:38.43 | dc_ | PaxAnima: :) |
| 17:38.48 | pb_ | dc_: evening |
| 17:39.39 | dc_ | pb_: did you see the new gpe-irc screenshot ? |
| 17:40.00 | pb_ | dc_: ooh no, is it on scap? |
| 17:40.12 | dc_ | pb_: nah, eh handhelds.org/~dctanner/gpe-irc3.png |
| 17:40.29 | dc_ | pb_: plus channel joining is nearly working, heh. |
| 17:40.30 | pb_ | dc_: ah, looks very nice. |
| 17:40.46 | pb_ | dc_: what do the two buttons in the southwest corner do? |
| 17:41.02 | dc_ | pb_: they're part of PaxAnima's input system. |
| 17:41.10 | pb_ | dc_: ah right, cool |
| 17:41.12 | dc_ | pb_: one is common phrases, and smileys. |
| 17:41.21 | dc_ | pb_: plus the predictive text if very good! |
| 17:41.33 | dc_ | pb_: it'll make input alot faster. |
| 17:41.50 | pb_ | dc_: great! |
| 17:42.41 | dc_ | I'm just trying to work out how to compile the best dictionary. |
| 17:42.52 | dc_ | so far I have one of the 1000 most common english words. |
| 17:43.02 | dc_ | I think I may add the other 1000-2000 words. |
| 17:43.21 | dc_ | and then say another few hundred from hh.org irc stats. |
| 17:44.41 | pb_ | dc_: how does the word selection work? would it be sensible to just dump in the whole of /usr/dict/words, or does it get too clumsy with lots of words? |
| 17:45.23 | dc_ | pb_: well, it reads in the whole dictionary at the start I think. |
| 17:45.34 | dc_ | pb_: so we don't want something _too_ big. |
| 17:45.48 | dc_ | pb_: get the latest gpe-irc to see how it works :) |
| 17:46.05 | pb_ | dc_: ok, cool, I will try it out when I get home. |
| 17:46.19 | dc_ | good'o |
| 17:46.29 | dc_ | pb_: back to work already then? |
| 17:47.08 | pb_ | dc_: oh yes. |
| 17:47.14 | dc_ | heh :] |
| 17:47.44 | pb_ | dc_: I get next Tuesday and Wednesday off, but that's it. |
| 17:47.50 | dc_ | ah well. |
| 17:51.22 | pb_ | dc_: I finally got gstreamer built for arm, including a tremor plugin. |
| 17:52.06 | dc_ | oooh. |
| 17:52.15 | dc_ | pb_: what's the tremor plugin do..? |
| 17:52.22 | pb_ | dc_: it's the integerised vorbis decoder |
| 17:52.37 | dc_ | great! |
| 17:52.38 | pb_ | dc_: the normal vorbisdec is floating-point heavy and won't run fast enough to be any use |
| 17:52.44 | dc_ | ah good then. |
| 17:52.52 | dc_ | is the speed good? |
| 17:53.39 | pb_ | the only machine I have available to try it on right now is a 75MHz arm7, which doesn't seem to be able to play oggs in real time. I'm gonna try it with some mp3s in a minute, just downloading them off the empeg now. |
| 17:53.47 | pb_ | I'll test on one of my ipaqs a bit later on at home. |
| 17:54.00 | dc_ | ah right. |
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| 17:54.18 | jsmanrique | hi! |
| 17:54.21 | dc_ | evening |
| 17:54.24 | pb_ | I've received several mibusgrams recently asking for a new release of NMF, so it would be good to get this stuff working. |
| 17:54.56 | dc_ | hehe |
| 17:54.58 | dc_ | ooooooh. |
| 17:55.01 | dc_ | weeee. |
| 17:55.26 | dc_ | i just realised, my host providers have blessed me with unlimited disk space. |
| 17:55.28 | dc_ | how kind. |
| 17:55.39 | pb_ | heh, sounds like quite a result. |
| 17:55.55 | dc_ | yes, well. I pay for 750 |
| 17:56.12 | dc_ | I'm just wondering if I downgrade it.. |
| 17:56.19 | dc_ | will they notice and change it back :/ |
| 17:56.30 | pb_ | ah, tricky |
| 17:56.38 | dc_ | quite. |
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| 17:59.09 | dc_ | hey mallum :D |
| 17:59.26 | mallum | hey dc_ |
| 17:59.28 | mallum | dc_: been playing halo |
| 17:59.32 | dc_ | mallum: weeee. |
| 17:59.34 | dc_ | mallum: good? |
| 17:59.49 | mallum | dc_: pretty much the best 1 person shooter I've played |
| 17:59.58 | dc_ | mallum: great! |
| 18:00.12 | mallum | dc_: jedi knight II is 15 quid now from amazon |
| 18:00.20 | dc_ | mallum: oh weee :) |
| 18:00.32 | dc_ | mallum: defently get a copy if you want ;) |
| 18:00.34 | mallum | dc_: that splinter cell is a little complicated |
| 18:00.39 | dc_ | mallum: oh. |
| 18:00.45 | mallum | dc_: not so sure about that yet |
| 18:00.52 | dc_ | mallum: kind of silent service eh? |
| 18:01.09 | mallum | dc_: yeah just really stupid controls |
| 18:01.16 | dc_ | mallum: heh. |
| 18:01.36 | dc_ | mallum: I can always send you a copy of jedi knight II. |
| 18:01.46 | dc_ | mallum: once I dedust my cd-rw |
| 18:03.47 | mallum | dc_: thatd be cool ;-) |
| 18:04.20 | dc_ | mallum: sure thing. email me your postal address, and I'll send it on monday |
| 18:06.16 | dc_ | it would seem the web server his frozen my disk useage stats. |
| 18:07.07 | pb_ | hi mallum |
| 18:07.28 | mallum | pb_: hey |
| 18:08.02 | mallum | pb_: your gpe tray stuff, are you handling dock color changes ? |
| 18:08.07 | dc_ | mallum: okay, question. will a gtk window tell X or whatever when all the widgets have been rendered? |
| 18:08.12 | pb_ | mallum: not at present |
| 18:08.39 | pb_ | mallum: none of the gtk dockapps do blending to the dock colour yet, though it would be nice to add. |
| 18:08.58 | mallum | pb_: cool |
| 18:10.03 | dc_ | pb_: I noticed that the minitheme icon was kind of funkily resized..? |
| 18:10.20 | mallum | pb_: also I have to fix some things in minivol ( drag, working if dock is at top of display ), I tell you when I've done it as you may want to sync the changes to minilite |
| 18:10.47 | pb_ | mallum: ok. I had a go at fixing drag in minilite (mostly there was just a missing xselectinput). |
| 18:11.15 | mallum | pb_: its a pity there not some standard kerenl way of setting backlights :( |
| 18:11.19 | mallum | pb_: cool |
| 18:11.47 | pb_ | mallum: I think kergoth is working on something in that area as we speak. |
| 18:13.16 | dc_ | it looks like iPAQ reflash time! |
| 18:13.39 | pb_ | dc_: ah, still no space? |
| 18:14.04 | dc_ | pb_: I think there are heaps of half install ipkgs. |
| 18:14.11 | mallum | pb_: yeah that'd be nice. it seems every make of laptop has some different hacked tool for doing it |
| 18:14.13 | dc_ | pb_: but atleast now I can test a fresh install. |
| 18:14.18 | pb_ | dc_: ah, I see. |
| 18:14.30 | dc_ | pb_: see if all the gpe-apps2 deps are correct ;p |
| 18:14.45 | pb_ | dc_: good plan, though I think bugs in ipkg will cause things to appear worse than they are. |
| 18:14.51 | dc_ | :/ |
| 18:15.12 | pb_ | also, word on the street is that the pango packaging is slightly fux0red, I need to look at that again. |
| 18:16.43 | dc_ | pb_: hum, are you aware of how to stop GtkTextView not giving up space for other widgets? |
| 18:17.47 | pb_ | dc_: hmm, no, I don't think it has any minimum size. The display in gpe-calculator (& new minicalc) is a GtkTextView, and that happily squashes down to just a single line. |
| 18:18.38 | dc_ | well, it would seem it won't give up space for my users list in gpe-irc. |
| 18:18.48 | pb_ | bizarre |
| 18:19.00 | dc_ | but only when there's text in it. |
| 18:19.02 | pb_ | I'll look at the code a bit later if you want. |
| 18:19.06 | dc_ | thanks. |
| 18:19.56 | dc_ | I think I may just turn the globe button in the bottom right coner into a menu, that will also let you how and hide the topic and users list. |
| 18:20.50 | pb_ | good plan |
| 18:29.53 | pb_ | dc_: hrm, mp3s are just as bad as oggs on this box, even with plain madplay. which I guess is good, since it suggests gst isn't making things any worse. :-/ |
| 18:30.05 | dc_ | pb_: quite, oh weel. |
| 18:30.07 | dc_ | well |
| 18:31.00 | pb_ | right |
| 18:31.27 | dc_ | :) |
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| 18:39.53 | dc_ | well |
| 18:40.00 | dc_ | atleast it's working now :) |
| 18:40.13 | dc_ | mallum: so. |
| 18:40.29 | dc_ | mallum: can we get a gtk window too tell us when it's rendered itself in anyway? |
| 18:41.06 | mallum | dc_: Im not sure what you mean, could you give me some context ? |
| 18:41.28 | dc_ | mallum: well, it'd be nice for matchbox to not display windows untill they're fully rendered? |
| 18:41.39 | dc_ | mallum: like what *cough* wince does. |
| 18:43.07 | mallum | dc_: can you not call realise or something before you map the window ? |
| 18:43.36 | mallum | dc_: there is know way matchbox will know that you've finished painting your window contents |
| 18:43.55 | dc_ | mallum: ah quite. that's what I wanted. |
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| 18:45.09 | dc_ | mallum: well, what do you think about having somehing like wince. Where an animation is done while the window is rendered. then only after it's rendered is it displayed. |
| 18:45.47 | mallum | dc_: animation ? |
| 18:46.36 | dc_ | mallum: well, wince kind of scrolls open the window. it starts with a line in the center if the screen, which then expands horizontily, then verticly displaying the window contents. |
| 18:46.40 | dc_ | mallum: it's quite cute. |
| 18:49.07 | mallum | dc_: hmm, I haven't seen that |
| 18:49.42 | dc_ | mallum: heh :} |
| 18:49.48 | dc_ | mallum: well. it's cool. |
| 18:50.07 | dc_ | ppc2002 I think |
| 19:02.04 | PaxAnima | evening |
| 19:03.16 | PaxAnima | dc_: almost fixed the word cycling... need to make irc_input use both dictionary when cycling |
| 19:05.59 | dc_ | wee :) |
| 19:06.04 | dc_ | PaxAnima: great! |
| 19:06.09 | dc_ | well, I'm off for indian |
| 19:06.15 | dc_ | be back in a few :) |
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| 19:29.03 | pb_ | mallum: ah, just looking at the code to get the panel background colour. |
| 19:29.35 | pb_ | mallum: would it not be better to hang the MB_PANEL_BG property on the dock window rather than the root, so you could have different colours for different docks? |
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| 19:36.14 | pb_ | jg: hello |
| 19:36.24 | jg | pb_: hi |
| 19:36.39 | mallum | pb_: yeah probably, but for now its just on root |
| 19:37.20 | mallum | pb_: remember at the moment you can only run 1 mbdock |
| 19:38.08 | pb_ | mallum: right, but it seems it would be nice to design something that could be implemented by other docks too, which you might be able to run multiple copies of. |
| 19:38.56 | mallum | pb_: indeed |
| 19:40.55 | mallum | pb_: I'll probably move it to the dock when I figure out a way for the mechanism to handle docks with a pixmap background |
| 19:41.16 | pb_ | mallum: ok. |
| 19:41.18 | mallum | pb_: its pretty much experimental at the moment and Im just keeping it simple |
| 19:43.56 | mallum | pb_: also it becomes redundant when X does translucent windows :) |
| 19:45.17 | pb_ | true enough. |
| 19:47.53 | mallum | pb_: any idea how portable asprintf is ? |
| 19:49.19 | pb_ | mallum: I think it's a GNU extension. |
| 19:50.45 | mallum | pb_: yeah, I dont think it does what I need anyway |
| 19:51.19 | pb_ | ah. |
| 19:54.08 | mallum | pb_: I wish there was something like that glib sprintf_concat func |
| 19:54.55 | pb_ | mallum: isn't that more or less what asprintf is? |
| 19:58.06 | mallum | pb_: yeah more or less, but the glib one is portable ( as much as glib is ) and I think it does a few extra things |
| 20:00.35 | pb_ | I see. |
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| 21:32.16 | Disconnect | is gpe2 usable yet? |
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| 21:34.20 | mallum | Disconnect: yep |
| 21:40.16 | Disconnect | sorry work intervened. |
| 21:40.32 | Disconnect | I'm watching my ipaq flicker at me and gpe-login won't run.. something's obviously missing but damned if I can figure out what.. |
| 21:40.42 | Disconnect | ** ERROR **: file /home/pb/pango-1.1.3/pango/shape.c: line 74 (pango_shape): assertion failed: (glyphs->num_glyphs > 0) |
| 21:41.22 | Disconnect | lots of 'critical', after a bunch of warnings |
| 21:42.07 | mallum | Disconnect: hmm, havn't seen that one before - pb you about ? |
| 21:42.46 | Disconnect | lemme grab the first couple errors, might be more useful (having a long day) |
| 21:43.07 | Disconnect | bunch of warnings, then (gpe-login:4739): Gdk-WARNING **: Error converting from UTF-8 to STRING: Conversion from character set 'UTF-8' to 'ISO-8859-1' is not supported |
| 21:43.08 | Disconnect | ** (gpe-login:4739): CRITICAL **: file /home/pb/pango-1.1.3/pango/pango-fontset.c: line 84 (pango_fontset_get_font): assertion `fontset != NULL' failed |
| 21:43.20 | Disconnect | (the warnings are all the same as that one) |
| 21:44.18 | mallum | pb_: ping |
| 21:47.48 | pb_ | mallum: hi |
| 21:48.22 | mallum | pb_: do you know anything about disconnects pango problem ? |
| 21:48.48 | Disconnect | full errors @ www.gotontheinter.net/LOGIN.txt |
| 21:48.49 | pb_ | looks like he is missing a gconv module, maybe pango.modules too |
| 21:49.01 | pb_ | pango-querymodules >/etc/pango/pango.modules |
| 21:49.12 | pb_ | ipkg install gconv-iso8859-1 |
| 21:50.10 | Disconnect | didn't have gconv-iso8859-1 .. installed that.. reran query-modules .. |
| 21:50.12 | Disconnect | still no go :( |
| 21:51.46 | pb_ | you do have some ttf fonts installed presumably? |
| 21:51.57 | pb_ | either xfonts-ttf, or the MS ones. |
| 21:52.48 | Disconnect | should be. ran postinst 'way back when' .. rerunning it now just for S&G |
| 21:53.37 | pb_ | oh, and make sure the versions match between libc6 and your gconv modules. |
| 21:53.44 | Disconnect | i'll be damned. |
| 21:53.45 | pb_ | the packaging isn't quite smart enough to take care of that. |
| 21:54.07 | Disconnect | ttf fonts missing.. must have been some or another piece of the 'remove everything vaguely opie' I did. doh. thanks :) |
| 21:54.22 | pb_ | ah, right. |
| 21:54.23 | Disconnect | still getting "cannot load icon 'ok'" and cancel.. |
| 21:54.53 | pb_ | that'll be everyone's favourite ipkg bug. /usr/lib/ipkg/info/libgtk2.0-0.postinst should fix it. |
| 21:55.32 | Disconnect | yep that got it. |
| 21:59.25 | pb_ | jg: the gnome vte terminal widget looks quite neat, except for the 600KB of iso2022 tables it seems to include by default. |
| 22:02.56 | jg | pb_: any way to more tightly encode it? |
| 22:12.17 | pb_ | jg: not sure, but I guess it must be possible. Is there any need for iso2022 support anyway, do you think? |
| 22:14.33 | mallum | pb_: gnome vte term for utf8 ? |
| 22:14.36 | pb_ | mallum: yeah |
| 22:15.19 | mallum | pb_: did you look at mlterm ? IIRC that was pretty small and did xft |
| 22:15.33 | pb_ | mallum: no, haven't looked at that, but I will check it out |
| 22:17.32 | mallum | pb_: definetly does utf8 |
| 22:18.07 | pb_ | ok, I will have a play with it. |
| 22:19.34 | jg | pb_: I haven't a clue. Keithp knows alot more about I18N than I do, or ask HP. |
| 22:19.34 | jg | pb_: first thing to do generally is to see if a more compact encoding is possible: it often is, often grealy. |
| 22:19.43 | Disconnect | ok .. so if gtk2 is only on the ipaq cluster, where do I go to find gtk2 -and- a working-for-unstable libc? |
| 22:20.42 | pb_ | jg: ok. |
| 22:22.15 | pb_ | Disconnect: what is the problem with libc? |
| 22:22.34 | pb_ | Disconnect: unstable has 2.3.1; it seems unlikely that the ipaqs can have a newer version than that. |
| 22:22.57 | Disconnect | ipaq cluster: /lib/ld-2.2.5.so* .. unstable: /lib/ld-2.3.1.so |
| 22:22.59 | PaxAnima | weeee.. my word cycling code for the irc input worked at first attempt... scary... |
| 22:23.27 | Disconnect | ~ # ldd gaim |
| 22:23.28 | Disconnect | Segmentation fault |
| 22:23.28 | Disconnect | ldd: /lib/ld-linux.so.2 $exited with unknown exit code (139) |
| 22:24.14 | Disconnect | until ldd (and gdb) both blew up on it I was busy checking the transfers (asc or bin??) and packages and such.. |
| 22:24.24 | Disconnect | but its identical to theone on the ipaq cluster |
| 22:25.06 | pb_ | does ldd work on that binary if you run it on the cluster? |
| 22:25.14 | Disconnect | yep |
| 22:25.34 | Disconnect | and it runs (well insofar as it can without an X display) |
| 22:26.13 | pb_ | well, that's very strange. |
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| 22:37.20 | dc_ | :) |
| 22:37.52 | mallum | dc_: good curry ? |
| 22:37.59 | dc_ | yep :D |
| 22:38.03 | dc_ | not a bad place. |
| 22:38.04 | PaxAnima | dc_: word cycling now cycles across both the nick and word dictionary ;) |
| 22:38.12 | dc_ | PaxAnima: wahay! |
| 22:38.17 | Disconnect | ok .. what would cause ipkg to see a perfectly valid archive but still end up with file corruption?? md5's didn't match.... |
| 22:38.28 | dc_ | PaxAnima: well. lets try and set you up for cvs..? |
| 22:38.30 | Disconnect | guguugug its just not being my day today. |
| 22:38.46 | dc_ | Disconnect: heh :) |
| 22:39.14 | Disconnect | but I get to go yell at the gaim guys now since the sizing stuff isn't working (are we 100% sure that matchbox/etc implements it the way its supposed to be?) |
| 22:39.25 | dc_ | PaxAnima: which will mean you can easily merge in your changes. |
| 22:39.48 | dc_ | Disconnect: still working on the gaim ui? |
| 22:40.25 | pb_ | dc_: evening. |
| 22:40.40 | Disconnect | dc_: yah, supposedly the gtk2 version works without mods. |
| 22:40.47 | Disconnect | and it does, sorta. but prefs is unusable. |
| 22:40.54 | dc_ | PaxAnima: since I had to make some changes to the entry callback aswell, so the main gpe-irc ui can catch Return keypresses from the entry. |
| 22:41.02 | dc_ | Disconnect: ah |
| 22:41.05 | PaxAnima | dc_: ah.. |
| 22:41.07 | dc_ | pb_: hey. |
| 22:44.10 | dc_ | ack. |
| 22:46.00 | mallum | Disconnect: if you resize the prefs window to 240x320 on your dekstop is it ok ? |
| 22:48.43 | dc_ | PaxAnima: it would seem that the gtk entry is find if you only make the connections for it in irc_input.c but if I try to connect a signal to it in main.c it doesn't let any text be inputted into the entry anymore. |
| 22:48.50 | Disconnect | mallum: its marked unresizable. |
| 22:49.16 | PaxAnima | dc_: oh? |
| 22:49.20 | mallum | Disconnect: also you may want to ipkg install http://www.handhelds.org/~mallum/downloadables/experimental/matchbox_0.4pre.20021224-0_arm.ipk |
| 22:49.23 | dc_ | owwwwwww. |
| 22:49.41 | pb_ | dc_: doh. |
| 22:49.55 | dc_ | someone must have just turned it off... |
| 22:49.57 | dc_ | :[ |
| 22:50.03 | dc_ | so I thought it was cold. |
| 22:50.11 | pb_ | ah, nasty. |
| 22:50.54 | Disconnect | looks the same.. so its definitely a gaim thing. |
| 22:51.40 | dc_ | pb_: quite. do you have any ideas on why an entry may flip if you try to connect from two different places? |
| 22:52.07 | pb_ | dc_: no clue. |
| 22:52.20 | PaxAnima | dc_: which signal are you trying to connect? |
| 22:52.24 | dc_ | heh |
| 22:52.32 | dc_ | PaxAnima: key-press-even |
| 22:52.41 | dc_ | it just makes it non editable |
| 22:53.05 | PaxAnima | dc_: you remember to put return FALSE; at the end of the callback? |
| 22:53.53 | dc_ | heh |
| 22:53.55 | dc_ | quite. |
| 22:54.04 | dc_ | PaxAnima: I was returning TRUE :/ |
| 22:54.09 | dc_ | works now |
| 22:54.11 | PaxAnima | heh ;) |
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| 22:54.51 | PaxAnima | mallum: what's the proffesionals? |
| 22:54.53 | gpe-irc | hi |
| 22:54.57 | dc_ | oops |
| 22:54.58 | dc_ | weeeee |
| 22:54.59 | dc_ | :D |
| 22:55.03 | pb_ | heh. |
| 22:55.04 | dc_ | it speaks. |
| 22:55.06 | dc_ | behold |
| 22:55.08 | PaxAnima | wow ;) |
| 22:55.09 | pb_ | dc_: very good |
| 22:55.20 | PaxAnima | gpe-irc is a well-trained monkey |
| 22:55.24 | gpe-irc | hinder my monkey |
| 22:55.36 | dc_ | great words in this dictionary |
| 22:55.54 | pb_ | dc_: those were your top 1000 words for irc, right? |
| 22:56.03 | mallum | PaxAnima: late 70's / early 80's british cop TV show |
| 22:56.10 | dc_ | pb_: top 1000 for english |
| 22:56.10 | PaxAnima | mallum: ah.. |
| 22:56.15 | pb_ | dc_: aha. |
| 22:56.26 | dc_ | pb_: so obviously hinder and monkey are used widely. |
| 22:56.30 | dc_ | god knows why. |
| 22:56.35 | PaxAnima | heh.. |
| 22:56.35 | pb_ | dc_: evidently. |
| 22:56.41 | PaxAnima | dc_: do you want word cycle? ;) |
| 22:56.47 | dc_ | PaxAnima: yes please :D |
| 22:56.59 | mallum | PaxAnima: http://uk.imdb.com/Title?0075561 |
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| 22:58.11 | gpe-irc | much better |
| 22:58.40 | PaxAnima | dc_: what changes did you do to the code? just the irc_input_create() interface? |
| 22:58.59 | gpe-irc | it would seem that irc doesn't feed back your own messages |
| 22:59.16 | PaxAnima | no, why should it? ;) |
| 22:59.30 | dc_ | PaxAnima: dunno, just supprised. |
| 22:59.58 | dc_ | PaxAnima: anyhow, yes, it should only take 10 minutes to manualy merge in the code. |
| 23:00.04 | dc_ | PaxAnima: so send it along. |
| 23:00.43 | PaxAnima | I want to do the changes my self, if you don't mind.. |
| 23:01.00 | PaxAnima | want to change the irc_input_create() further |
| 23:01.45 | gpe-irc | ;) |
| 23:01.53 | PaxAnima | look! a smiley ;) |
| 23:02.04 | dc_ | PaxAnima: well sure, all you need to do is make it like irc_input_create(gchar *dict_file, GtkWidget *quick_button, GtkWidget *smiley_button, GtkWidget *entry); or something |
| 23:02.10 | gpe-irc | PaxAnima is a great guy! |
| 23:02.24 | dc_ | gpe-irc: where did that come from boy! |
| 23:02.37 | gpe-irc | =|:<= |
| 23:02.47 | gpe-irc | interesting |
| 23:02.59 | PaxAnima | don't ask why I had it in the list ;) |
| 23:03.17 | dc_ | PaxAnima: as pb_ said, it would be nice to simply include /usr/share/dict/words |
| 23:03.37 | dc_ | PaxAnima: the american dicts is only 399k, but maybe we can find a slightly shorter list. |
| 23:03.49 | PaxAnima | dc_: yes.. I'll also add char* quick_list_filename, char* smiley_list_filename.. no need to hardcode it with a #define |
| 23:03.55 | PaxAnima | hmm.. |
| 23:04.10 | dc_ | PaxAnima: great, yeah, I'll make sure those are put in the prefs when I code that. |
| 23:04.23 | dc_ | lemme try that dict.. |
| 23:04.25 | dc_ | well. |
| 23:04.54 | PaxAnima | I need to add some code to make the imported words lowercase... |
| 23:05.02 | dc_ | yes |
| 23:05.03 | dc_ | hum |
| 23:05.14 | dc_ | maybe if I remove all names of places and people from the dict. |
| 23:05.19 | dc_ | and all words under 4 letters. |
| 23:05.31 | dc_ | it may become a more reasonable size. |
| 23:06.03 | PaxAnima | yes.. |
| 23:07.01 | dc_ | also removing all the plurals would make sense. |
| 23:07.11 | PaxAnima | yes.. |
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| 23:16.27 | mallum | hey walters |
| 23:16.36 | walters | howdy :) |
| 23:16.50 | walters | looking forward to purging it of proprietary Qt crap. |
| 23:16.53 | dc_ | :) |
| 23:17.10 | pb_ | mallum: mlterm mostly seems to work, though I can't figure out how to change the font it uses or make the compose key do anything. |
| 23:17.21 | walters | hey pb_ |
| 23:17.28 | pb_ | hi walters |
| 23:17.34 | walters | good to see some other dd's in here :) |
| 23:17.41 | pb_ | heh. :-) |
| 23:19.47 | PaxAnima | dc_: hmm.. trying to use /usr/share/dict/words for the dictionary now... takes forever to start up... :/ |
| 23:20.07 | dc_ | PaxAnima: heh |
| 23:20.35 | pb_ | walters: you probably need to install openzaurus on the Z as a first step, then check with ljp to find out what the status of his gpe-for-zaurus package feed is. |
| 23:20.50 | walters | pb_: makes sense... |
| 23:20.50 | mallum | pb_: there appears to be a mirad of options for mlterm ... |
| 23:21.00 | walters | pb_: i am presently trying to get networking configured to do just that |
| 23:21.06 | walters | or at least the first part |
| 23:21.21 | walters | unfortunate mawk was segfaulting while running 'make menuconfig'. |
| 23:21.29 | PaxAnima | dc_: think adding 45000 words might be a bit overload ;) |
| 23:21.29 | walters | and gawk is just spinning and eating up memory. |
| 23:21.35 | walters | my laptop is b0rked i fear :/ |
| 23:21.41 | mallum | walters: openzaraus needs a decent xserver built ... I think the one on openzaraus lacks features like xft support |
| 23:21.51 | walters | mallum: ah |
| 23:21.56 | pb_ | mallum: yeah. I am running it as mlterm -E UTF-8 -aa -w 8 at present. There is a gtk-based gui config thing, which lets you make the font larger and smaller but doesn't seem to have an option for changing the face. |
| 23:21.59 | walters | mallum: yes xft is definitely important. |
| 23:22.08 | walters | mallum: are you guys using gtk+ 2.2? |
| 23:22.44 | dc_ | PaxAnima: let me see what I get when it's thinned. |
| 23:22.50 | mallum | walters: yes |
| 23:22.55 | walters | mallum: rock |
| 23:23.02 | mallum | walters: slightly patched |
| 23:23.24 | PaxAnima | dc_: the performance, once loaded, isn't bad on my laptop (celeron 450mhz) |
| 23:23.26 | pb_ | mallum: btw, did you build any gtk 2.2 packages in the end? |
| 23:23.30 | mallum | walters: actually I think were on 2.1.5 ... I meant to of built 2.2 ;} |
| 23:23.34 | dc_ | PaxAnima: yes.... |
| 23:23.57 | PaxAnima | dc_: and I still haved added a small optimalisation to the word lookup.. |
| 23:24.00 | PaxAnima | haven't |
| 23:24.54 | dc_ | :) |
| 23:25.12 | dc_ | PaxAnima: maybe we can have it load quetly in the background ;) |
| 23:25.31 | PaxAnima | dc_: heh.. |
| 23:25.35 | mallum | pb_: according to the manpage it checks /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/mlterm/ for its font config |
| 23:26.15 | PaxAnima | dc_: but using a pre sorted dictionary of something far less than 45k words shouldn't take too long to load... |
| 23:26.26 | dc_ | PaxAnima: right |
| 23:26.41 | dc_ | PaxAnima: yeah, if it's faster to load a sorted one, lets do so. |
| 23:28.01 | PaxAnima | dc_: yes, it is... |
| 23:28.24 | dc_ | good then :)_ |
| 23:30.00 | PaxAnima | anyway, the word completions is just a small aid, so I don't see the need for having a complete list of words.. |
| 23:30.21 | PaxAnima | my test app used about 80secs to load the 45k word list.. |
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| 23:39.44 | PaxAnima | dc_: removing words < 4 in size and alle names from the dict file still leaves 38k words left (at at least for my words file) |
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| 23:39.57 | PaxAnima | pigeon: what do you hmm about? |
| 23:40.16 | PaxAnima | dctanner_: removing words < 4 in size and alle names from the dict file still leaves 38k words left (at at least for my words file) |
| 23:40.34 | pigeon | Don't know :) |
| 23:41.29 | dctanner_ | PaxAnima: okay :/ |
| 23:42.00 | dctanner_ | PaxAnima: so. |
| 23:42.04 | dctanner_ | PaxAnima: too big? |
| 23:42.25 | PaxAnima | yes... |
| 23:43.30 | dctanner_ | :[ |
| 23:43.35 | PaxAnima | it takes 50secs to load the 38k dictionary from disk... |
| 23:43.51 | dctanner_ | ouch |
| 23:44.33 | dctanner_ | so I guess we stick with 2000 most common english words and irc stats? |
| 23:44.48 | dctanner_ | hum |
| 23:44.52 | dctanner_ | where are the irc stats? |
| 23:45.08 | dctanner_ | ibot: irc stats |
| 23:45.10 | | dctanner_: are you smoking crack? |
| 23:45.13 | PaxAnima | 3k word list should be ok, and frankly, enough |
| 23:45.15 | pigeon | lol |
| 23:45.32 | dctanner_ | ibot: you're just jelous |
| 23:45.33 | | dctanner_: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about |
| 23:45.49 | dctanner_ | ibot: because j00're on crack! |
| 23:45.50 | | wish i knew, dctanner_ |
| 23:45.53 | pb_ | ibot, you suck |
| 23:45.54 | | :( |
| 23:45.55 | pigeon | parser error... -.- |
| 23:45.59 | dctanner_ | hehe |
| 23:46.06 | dctanner_ | nah, he has feelings |
| 23:47.51 | dctanner_ | ibot: bad bot. |
| 23:47.53 | | ACTION whimpers |
| 23:47.53 | dctanner_ | now...he's thinking about that one |
| 23:47.57 | pigeon | ibot: merry xmas |
| 23:47.59 | | Merry Christmas! |
| 23:47.59 | pb_ | crumbs, he's just sulking now. |
| 23:48.02 | dctanner_ | pigeon: I think we've upset him now :/ |
| 23:48.09 | pb_ | maybe someone asked a particularly tricky question in some other channel. |
| 23:48.17 | dctanner_ | hah |
| 23:48.25 | pigeon | ibot: wake up ibot |
| 23:48.26 | | wish i knew, pigeon |
| 23:48.28 | PaxAnima | dctanner_: I think the reason for the slow loading is the list handling done by GList |
| 23:48.33 | pigeon | ibot: the matrix has you |
| 23:48.35 | | i don't know, pigeon |
| 23:48.36 | pb_ | I think ibot does get stuck doing long DNS lookups sometimes if you ask him to go to an external site. |
| 23:49.09 | dctanner_ | heh |
| 23:49.09 | dctanner_ | ibot: bad bot. |
| 23:49.11 | | ACTION whimpers |
| 23:49.36 | dctanner_ | PaxAnima: and, can we fix that? |
| 23:50.21 | dctanner_ | PaxAnima: or are we really stuck with a GList for life? |
| 23:50.23 | PaxAnima | dctanner_: I'd see what I can hack... ;) |
| 23:50.30 | dc__ | PaxAnima: right'o. |
| 23:50.31 | PaxAnima | -'d |
| 23:50.32 | pb_ | you could use a GSList, which is a bit lighter weight. |
| 23:50.47 | dc__ | ah, true. |
| 23:50.49 | pb_ | I doubt it will make much difference though. You probably need to profile your code to find out where the time goes. |
| 23:51.43 | PaxAnima | pb_: I think the reason for the poor performance could be that (I guess) the g_list_append() starts at the head node, giving it a large overhead as the list grows.. |
| 23:53.02 | __moray | you probably want to link the list items yourself here, rather than _append ? |
| 23:54.55 | dc__ | PaxAnima: would insert be faster? |
| 23:54.55 | pb_ | yeah, could be. I dunno if GList is smart enough to keep a pointer to the tail as well. |
| 23:54.55 | pb_ | if that's the case, you could try using g_list_prepend instead and see if it speeds things up. |
| 23:54.55 | PaxAnima | pb_: yes.. |
| 23:54.55 | PaxAnima | hey presto ;) |
| 23:54.55 | PaxAnima | 1 sec, or so ;) |
| 23:54.55 | dc__ | w00t |
| 23:55.20 | pb_ | __moray: hello :-) |
| 23:55.30 | dc__ | __moray: evening :) |
| 23:55.40 | PaxAnima | __moray: hello |
| 23:55.42 | __moray | pb_: hi, how are things? |
| 23:56.22 | PaxAnima | __moray: g_list_prepend(),and g_list_reverse() works fine... or I can assume that the dictionary is reversed, skipping the _reverse() bit |
| 23:56.34 | PaxAnima | dc__: now the size doesn't matter ;) |
| 23:56.36 | dc__ | PaxAnima: yep, seems to be alot faster now |
| 23:56.49 | __moray | hm, I hope all this input code is nicely clean, and can be added into the general input system at some point...? |
| 23:57.04 | dc__ | PaxAnima: well. |
| 23:57.06 | pb_ | __moray: yeah, not bad. back at work today after the Christmas break. What are you up to at the moment? |
| 23:57.15 | PaxAnima | __moray: it's not toooo dirty.. ;) |
| 23:57.15 | dc__ | PaxAnima: is that with your 35k dict? |
| 23:57.16 | __moray | PaxAnima: well yes, but you could alternatively just keep a tail pointer yourself |
| 23:57.33 | PaxAnima | dc__: ues |
| 23:57.47 | __moray | pb_: well, I'm currently in London; my parents and brother are here, and making sure I get kept busy :/ |
| 23:58.03 | pb_ | __moray: aha, good stuff. |
| 23:58.05 | dc__ | PaxAnima: my 300k is still slow =P |
| 23:58.06 | dc__ | hehe |
| 23:58.29 | PaxAnima | dc__: you don't have fixed code yet? |
| 23:58.44 | dc__ | PaxAnima: oh, well...I did change to a prepend... |
| 23:58.58 | PaxAnima | dc__: I |
| 23:58.59 | dc__ | PaxAnima: but I guess the new code is optimised to then :) |
| 23:59.19 | PaxAnima | I'll make a new tarball of the code |
