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07:38.25jsmanriquehello!
07:38.38jsmanriquecongratulations from Miguel de Icaza for GPE
07:39.29jsmanriqueI've met him this weekend in Madrid
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08:12.29pb_g'day prpplague
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08:18.56prpplaguepb_: g'day
08:19.04prpplaguepb_: hows it going?
08:19.10pb_prpplague: so-so
08:19.28prpplaguepb_: another fun monday at the programming whore house
08:19.35pb_prpplague: I just discovered that I am supposed to be attending this ghastly corporate networking event in 40 minutes.
08:19.39pb_http://www.cambridgenetwork.co.uk/pooled/articles/BF_EVENTART/view.asp?Q=BF_EVENTART_38754
08:19.44prpplagueek
08:20.37pb_indeed.
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08:47.43jsmanriquehello!
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09:31.35jsmanriquethat was he said me
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11:52.13jsmanriquehello!
11:52.20jsmanriqueanybody there?
11:53.01mallumjust ...
11:54.30jsmanrique... ¿?
11:54.54jsmanriquejust looking for some GPE "managers"
11:55.06jsmanriqueto give congratulations from Miguel de Icaza..
11:57.04jsmanriquedo you him?
11:59.37mallum??
12:00.16jsmanriquedo you know him? (sorry)
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12:01.14florianre
12:01.29mallumjsmanrique: how are the low color icons going ?
12:02.26jsmanriquemallum : don't ask me about that :) There was a big problem on thursday
12:03.05mallumjsmanrique: ok
12:03.15jsmanriqueI've upgraded/updated my ipaq, since I had to give a talk about Linux on handhelds last Saturday in the National Linux users Congress
12:03.29jsmanriqueafter reboot x-window didn't start
12:03.46jsmanriquethere was a probelm with pixbuff.. or something similar
12:04.12jsmanriqueso I reflashed my system to 0.6.1 and upgrade my ipaq bootldr
12:04.47jsmanriqueeverything on thursday night, because at 2:30 night I have to catch a car to go to Madrid (Spain's capital)
12:04.50jsmanriqueto the congress
12:04.59jsmanriquewhere I met Miguel de Icaza
12:05.22jsmanriqueand he asked me if I knew a distro for handhelds that use gtk :)))
12:05.29jsmanriqueof course, I said :)))
12:06.00jsmanriqueand I showed my ipaq, and he couldn't belive that it was running gtk, and I said that gtk2 is being done
12:11.28jsmanriqueso,
12:11.41jsmanriqueI would like to give all of you his congratulations
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14:13.40pb_dc__: evening
14:13.41dc__evening
14:13.49dc__pb_: hey I got the snes controler!
14:13.50dc__:)
14:13.52pigeonyo dc__, pb_
14:13.53pb_dc__: w00t
14:13.53dc__now I need to install it
14:13.55dc__hey pigeon
14:14.11pb_dc__: ah, just in time to use the snes9x ipk that I am about to make.
14:14.17dc__ah great!!
14:14.39pb_dc__: installation should be relatively foolproof: insert plug into socket.
14:14.53dc__good'o
14:15.11dc__hrm
14:15.12pb_heh
14:15.13dc__now I wonder.
14:15.26dc__anyone had any fun with tri monitors before?
14:15.33dc__I just got an old pci vido card.
14:15.35dc__hehe
14:15.44pb_ha!
14:15.58dc__yay, it'd be so cool.
14:22.34pb_hmm, I feel a bit inadequate with my single monitor.
14:22.44dc__aww. heh
14:22.46dc__hehe
14:23.24pb_actually, I have an old 21" monitor sitting in the garage, I guess I could break that out.
14:23.55dc__that'd be pretty nice.
14:24.40mallumhey dc__
14:24.57dc__hey mallum :)
14:25.05dc__hum
14:25.16dc__mallum: does xsnes take zips?
14:25.19mallumpb_: hey have you seen this wierd freetype post on GPE list
14:25.24mallumdc__: yep, think so
14:25.40pb_mallum: yes, it turns out it was some misguided opie guy who thought it was the QPE list (duh)
14:25.45dc__cool
14:25.53dc__pb_: hehe
14:27.14mallumTony hawks 4 came today :-)
14:27.21dc__ooh.
14:27.24dc__mallum: good?
14:27.33dc__mallum: hey, did you play jedi knight 2 yet?
14:27.41dc__mallum: that's very cooL!
14:29.55dc__pb_: so what's the precedure with this controler?
14:30.26mallumdc__: yeah is pretty cool
14:30.53dc__mallum: lots of fun at lan parties.
14:30.53mallumdc__: I got a mini-itx board at the weekend
14:30.56pb_dc__: you need to install inputattach, input-modules and snes232-modules
14:31.02dc__mallum: ooooh :)
14:31.08mallumdc__: I got matchbox running on the TV ;-)
14:31.32dc__mallum: wow.
14:31.38dc__mallum: what one is it?
14:32.03mallumdc__: the 800mhz one
14:32.18dc__mallum: not bad then :)
14:32.22mallumdc__: dvd quality is a little crappy ... I gotta figure out how to imporve on that
14:32.32pigeonIs that the snes gamepad controller for the ipaq you're talking about?
14:32.37dc__mallum: wow, so all the intergrated hardware works then?
14:32.41dc__pigeon: yep :)
14:32.45mallumdc__: yeah pretty much
14:32.52dc__pb_: .
14:32.54dc__ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for inputattach:
14:32.54dc__<PROTECTED>
14:32.59mallumdc__: havn't got alsa playing nicely ( oss works )
14:33.04pb_dc__: --force-depends :-/
14:33.10dc__pb_: =p
14:33.14pb_dc__: I will make a new one with the dependencies corrected.
14:33.27dc__goody.
14:33.37pigeonOk. So, I suppose, with that controller, it will overcome the cannot-get-more-than-one-button-down-at-the-same-time problem in old ipaqs? Yeah?
14:33.38dc__mallum: that's pretty impressive, is it very loud?
14:33.42dc__mallum: like the fans...
14:33.47dc__or is it fanless?
14:33.58dc__pigeon: I guess.
14:34.08mallumdc__: yeah it has a tiny cpu fan ( 500 mhz dont ) and a pan in the powersupply
14:34.18mallumdc__: its not silent but pretty quiet
14:34.19pigeonNeat. Well, I can never play mario bros on my ipaq properly because of that :(
14:34.30pb_pigeon: indeed.
14:34.52dc__mallum: well, all sounds like fun :)
14:40.39dc__pb_: is the xsnes ipk in unstable yet?
14:40.49pb_dc__: need five minutes
14:40.58dc__n/p
14:46.02pb_dc__: uploaded.
14:46.07dc__great
14:47.32pb_ipkg install http://handhelds.org/familiar/feeds/unstable/packages/armv4l/snes9x_20021118-1_arm.ipk
14:48.44pb_dc__: now, to make the joystick work you need to stop getty running on the serial port, and do "inputattach --snes232 /dev/ttySA0".  Easiest way is to use a new runlevel.
14:49.39dc__:/
14:49.48dc__right
14:50.00dc__hrmmmmmm
14:50.28dc__I've just recieved 15 emails about other peoples support tickets for from my web hosting companie...
14:50.31dc__company :)
14:50.47pb_ha, that's nice of them.
14:51.56dc__oh dear.
14:52.00dc__that's not good.
14:52.08dc__I have access to all their accounts.
14:52.17pb_heh
14:52.21dc__that's like hacking, without the effort.
14:52.26dc__how nice of them
14:52.26pb_let's hope they don't all have access to yours.
14:52.45dc__there isn't anything on there...
14:52.57dc__so they'll be pretty unimpressed.
14:53.17pb_aha :-)
14:57.41dc__~ # inputattach --snes232 /dev/ttySA0
14:57.41i don't know, dc__
14:57.41dc__inputattach: can't set line discipline
14:57.45dc__heh
14:57.46dc__pb_: ?
14:57.56pb_ah, you may need to load some modules.
14:58.01dc__ah
14:58.02pb_insmod serport serio input joydev
14:58.12pb_and snes232 of course
14:58.37dc__~ # insmod serport serio input joydev snes232
14:58.38dc__: bugger all, i dunno
14:58.39dc__Using /lib/modules/2.4.18-rmk3/kernel/drivers/char/joystick/serport.o
14:58.39dc__insmod: unresolved symbol serio_unregister_port
14:58.39dc__insmod: unresolved symbol serio_register_port
14:58.51pb_oh, insmod is too dumb.
14:58.55dc__heh
14:58.55pb_load serio first, or use modprobe.
14:59.09dc__:)
14:59.15dc__so then...
14:59.25dc__I just startup snes/
14:59.26dc__?
14:59.36dc__and are the keys already mapped?
14:59.48pb_yep.  You may need to use -joymap1 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 on the command line.
15:00.31pb_oh, on the interface box, player 1 is the right-hand socket as you look at it.
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15:01.09pb_I guess it would have been smarter for me to put some kind of label on :-}
15:02.40dc__oh
15:02.46dc__I need to plud it into the iPAQ!
15:02.48dc__:)
15:02.49dc__hah
15:03.20pb_Ah yes, an all-important step I forgot to mention.
15:05.47dc__<PROTECTED>
15:05.48dc__<PROTECTED>
15:05.48dc__<PROTECTED>
15:05.52dc__heh
15:05.55pb_!
15:05.58dc__sould it find /dev/js0?
15:06.08pb_after you do the inputattach, yes.
15:06.27dc__it says it can't
15:06.41pb_hrm
15:06.56pb_oh, maybe it needs to be mknod'd by hand.
15:07.01dc__:/
15:07.02pb_does the file exist at all?
15:07.14dc__no
15:07.16pb_ah.
15:07.37pb_mknod /dev/js0 c 13 0
15:08.06pb_It might be getting created by devfs under some other name, I'll have to look into that.
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15:34.12dc__arg
15:34.20dc__it froze when I put the ipaq back in
15:34.24dc__damn usbnet
15:35.11pb_:-/
15:36.34dc__okay.
15:36.45dc__errr..can you give me those commands again.
15:37.23pb_inputattach --snes232 /dev/ttySA0
15:37.37pb_and the modules were serport serio input joydev snes232
15:39.06dc__hrm
15:39.08dc__and for /dev/js
15:39.12dc__it's not there anymroe now.
15:39.19dc__even when I inputattach
15:39.34pb_yeah, /dev/ is volatile on the ipaq, it will get lost on every reboot.
15:39.43dc__eek
15:39.45dc__heh
15:39.46dc__hrm
15:39.55dc__what runlevel doesn't have getty running?
15:40.32pb_4 is a good one I think
15:41.06dc__hrm
15:41.09dc__and the mknod
15:43.01pb_mknod /dev/js0 c 13 0
15:43.34dc__okay, lets see now
15:45.29dc__htm
15:45.29dc__hgrm
15:45.29dc__hrm
15:45.30dc__no action.
15:45.59dc__heh
15:46.05dc__<PROTECTED>
15:46.45pb_is inputattach running?
15:47.28dc__oh, 3 times..
15:47.42pb_!
15:47.53dc__okay, better..
15:47.55dc__only 1.
15:48.13pb_that's progress.
15:48.20dc__still no good.
15:48.25pb_check dmesg
15:48.41pb_anything interesting there?  It should say stuff like:
15:48.45pb_input0: SNES Gamepad Interface on serio0
15:48.46pb_input1: SNES Gamepad Interface on serio0
15:48.46pb_serio0: Serial port ttyS0
15:48.52pb_except ttySA0 in your case, obviously.
15:49.02dc__no snes stuff
15:49.10dc__but the seri0 stuff is there
15:49.15pb_hrm
15:49.39pb_and nothing else is using the serial port?
15:49.46pb_no gettys hanging around or anything like that?
15:50.13dc__nothing
15:50.21pb_hmm.
15:50.26pb_snes232.o is definitely loaded?
15:50.28dc__except for inputattach --snes232 /dev/ttySA0
15:50.40pb_you might need to force it in with insmod -f, it was probably compiled for a different kernel.
15:50.46dc__right
15:50.50dc__snes232?
15:50.57pb_in snes232-modules
15:51.04dc__hrm
15:51.16pb_fairly vital module that one.
15:52.07dc__ah it's for .16
15:52.11dc__and I'm running .18
15:52.14dc__can I force it?
15:52.30pb_yup
15:52.34dc__how...
15:52.39pb_insmod -f snes232
15:53.08pb_I'll make a new ipkg of that too.
15:53.18dc__unresolved symbols :{
15:53.55pb_what are the symbols?
15:54.23dc__input_event
15:54.29pb_insmod input
15:54.59dc__htm
15:55.06dc__now the iPAQ froze.
15:55.17dc__when I tried to re-insmod the snes232 mod
15:55.30pb_wow.
15:55.37dc__:{
15:56.39pb_I dunno what would cause that.  Unfortunately my 3600 is fucked at the moment so I can't try it out right now.
15:58.45pb_wanna try rebooting and see if the same thing happens again?  You might have upset it by running inputattach without the module loaded, I suppose.
16:01.31dc__hrm
16:01.35dc__now it's loaded
16:01.43dc__but it still says no device.
16:01.48pb_do you have joydev loaded?
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16:07.23dc__ya
16:07.24dc__yay
16:07.32dc__-joydev0 1234567 worked
16:07.33dc__:)
16:07.37dc__with spaces.
16:07.38dc__thanks.
16:07.41dc__need sleep :)
16:07.42dc__ngiht
16:07.44dc__pb_: :D
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