| 00:44.10 | florian | hi! |
| 03:28.13 | pb_ | mallum: yo |
| 03:29.43 | mallum | hey pb_ |
| 03:29.46 | mallum | just got up :( |
| 03:29.52 | mallum | couldn't sleep last night |
| 03:29.58 | pb_ | :-/ |
| 03:32.13 | mallum | fixed the 3900 ? |
| 03:34.08 | pb_ | mallum: not yet, but I ordered my serial cable. |
| 03:34.53 | mallum | pb_: cool, for controller ? |
| 03:35.28 | pb_ | mallum: mostly to debug the bootldr, but I might end up cutting it in half and using it for the controller later on. |
| 03:35.47 | pb_ | actually, I should go see whether Foxconn sell 3800 sync connectors. |
| 03:36.01 | pb_ | The 3600 ones I bought were only a pound or so each, I think. |
| 03:37.12 | mallum | Foxconn in the states ? |
| 03:37.18 | pb_ | Yeah. |
| 03:39.08 | pb_ | Though, their website suggests that Future Electronics (who have a UK operation) distribute Foxconn products. |
| 03:43.36 | pb_ | Hmm, the double-ended startac cable is 15 dollars. So, not all that great. |
| 03:51.27 | mallum | hmmm |
| 03:52.09 | mallum | pb_: when you give someone your phone number in another countrie you omit the first 0 and add 44 - right ? |
| 03:52.20 | pb_ | right. |
| 03:52.29 | pb_ | and they have to dial their international access code, obviously. |
| 07:44.09 | colin_werk | Wow. Sendo will not sell their wince smartphone but switch to Symbian instead. |
| 07:50.41 | pb_ | Indeed. I wonder why. |
| 07:56.24 | colin_werk | The German c't mag speculates it might be because MS is pushing the wince phone from HCT so much. |
| 07:59.02 | pb_ | HTC you mean? |
| 08:00.26 | colin_werk | Ooops, yeah. |
| 08:00.58 | colin_werk | Home. BBL. |
| 11:28.55 | mallum | http://www.handhelds.org/~mallum/mbdesktop.png |
| 11:41.09 | moray | ooh |
| 12:06.21 | mallum | pb_: http://www.handhelds.org/~mallum/mbdesktop.png |
| 12:07.06 | pb_ | wow |
| 12:07.12 | pb_ | mallum: very nice |
| 12:09.21 | mallum | pb_: dont actually do anything yet though |
| 12:09.29 | mallum | pb_: but thats parsing dotdesktop files |
| 12:14.12 | pb_ | mallum: what does the colour gradient look like on the 3600 screen? |
| 12:15.27 | mallum | pb_: hmm, havn't tried yet |
| 12:16.07 | pb_ | ah, fair enough |
| 15:16.20 | dc__ | evening |
| 15:16.27 | PaxAnima | evening |
| 15:16.45 | dc__ | going good? |
| 15:17.09 | PaxAnima | too much schoolwork |
| 15:17.23 | dc__ | ahh heck, me too |
| 15:17.27 | dc__ | it sucks eh. |
| 15:17.35 | PaxAnima | yeah... |
| 15:17.49 | dc__ | but well, friday tomorrow. |
| 15:18.08 | PaxAnima | two weeks left of my project... need to write a 30 pages report... not all fun... |
| 15:18.15 | dc__ | ouch |
| 15:19.23 | PaxAnima | and then theres another two weeks to my first exam... |
| 15:19.45 | dc__ | sounds like looots of fun |
| 15:21.11 | dc__ | hummm |
| 15:21.15 | dc__ | pb_: alive? |
| 15:21.35 | PaxAnima | the good thing is that since it's my last year of the master degree, it has been pretty much fun stuff (computer vision stuff mostly)... after chrsitmas there is the diploma... I think I'll do handwriting recogntion for the diploma... |
| 15:21.50 | dc__ | ah cool |
| 15:21.56 | dc__ | sounds cool |
| 15:22.22 | PaxAnima | yeah, I hope so |
| 15:23.57 | pb_ | dc__: hey |
| 15:24.26 | dc__ | pb_: ah hey :) |
| 15:24.55 | dc__ | pb_: hum got a sec to advise me on image rendering? |
| 15:24.58 | pb_ | dc__: sure |
| 15:25.34 | dc__ | pb_: well, I'm not sure how I should go about rendering the stand alone images that are displayed when you select a n image in gpe-gallery |
| 15:25.54 | dc__ | pb_: I'm thinking I should just use a GtkPixmap... |
| 15:26.02 | dc__ | or do they still exist in gtk2? |
| 15:26.09 | pb_ | GtkImage is probably a better bet. |
| 15:26.13 | dc__ | right |
| 15:26.21 | pb_ | Pixmaps will eat memory in the server, which is probably not what you want for big images. |
| 15:26.38 | dc__ | right |
| 15:26.42 | dc__ | GdkImage |
| 15:27.19 | pb_ | http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.0/gtk/GtkImage.html |
| 15:27.33 | dc__ | oops |
| 15:27.36 | dc__ | yes |
| 15:27.43 | dc__ | I'm on the wrong manualy again |
| 15:28.19 | pb_ | ha. |
| 15:29.14 | dc__ | hehe |
| 15:32.16 | dc__ | oooh |
| 15:32.16 | dc__ | yay |
| 15:32.17 | dc__ | :D |
| 15:32.18 | dc__ | hehe |
| 15:32.37 | pb_ | it seems to run well |
| 15:32.47 | dc__ | yeah, I did have it installed once |
| 15:32.57 | dc__ | but it was a bit of a pain to do so. |
| 15:33.10 | dc__ | prboom I think it was. |
| 15:33.25 | pb_ | yup, that's the one. |
| 15:33.32 | dc__ | cool. |
| 15:36.09 | pb_ | btw, I posted that controller. You should have it tomorrow. |
| 15:36.47 | dc__ | ah wow, thanks pb_ :) |
| 15:37.05 | dc__ | pb_: hum, you have any ideas on how to connect signals to the images in gpe-iconlist? |
| 15:38.14 | pb_ | hmm. |
| 15:38.37 | pb_ | it looks like you attach a "clicked" handler to the iconlist. |
| 15:38.44 | dc__ | indeed.... |
| 15:38.51 | dc__ | ahh |
| 15:39.05 | dc__ | then it must pass my udata |
| 15:39.08 | pb_ | yep. |
| 15:39.13 | dc__ | cool :) |
| 15:42.19 | pigeon | Hmm... gpe-calendar uses pango now? |
| 15:42.23 | pb_ | yep. |
| 15:42.29 | dc__ | ooh.. |
| 15:42.31 | dc__ | heh |
| 15:42.32 | dc__ | cute |
| 15:42.55 | pb_ | I think the week view is the only one that uses pango in a big way at the moment. |
| 15:43.18 | pb_ | I kind of plan to rewrite the day view in a similar style, but I haven't had the time yet. |
| 15:43.35 | dc__ | hum |
| 15:43.50 | dc__ | pb_: I can't work out how it passes on the udata now. |
| 15:43.59 | dc__ | pb_: I'm not sure what to do with gtk_signal_connect |
| 15:44.29 | pb_ | I think your signal handler prototype should be something like |
| 15:44.38 | pb_ | void signal_handler(GtkWidget *widget, gpointer udata) |
| 15:44.49 | dc__ | ah ha |
| 15:44.52 | pb_ | where "widget" will be the iconlist, and "udate" is... you guessed. |
| 15:45.25 | dc__ | gtk_signal_connect (GTK_OBJECT (view_widget), "clicked", |
| 15:45.25 | dc__ | GTK_SIGNAL_FUNC (show_image), NULL); |
| 15:45.28 | dc__ | is that good? |
| 15:45.35 | dc__ | or right rather |
| 15:45.42 | pb_ | looks ok. |
| 15:46.00 | pb_ | As far as I can tell, the udata you pass in with gtk_signal_connect is never actually used, so setting it to NULL is fine. |
| 15:46.07 | dc__ | right |
| 15:48.29 | pigeon | pb_: ta |
| 15:48.58 | dc__ | pb_: oh, have we got the latest gpe-edit unstable, the one that works with gpe-filemanager and has the cool search functions? |
| 15:49.36 | pb_ | dc__: um, I dunno. |
| 15:50.03 | pb_ | dc__: my release engineering is a bit haphazard where gpe-edit is concerned. |
| 15:50.13 | pb_ | dc__: if you think the one in unstable is out of date, I can easily make a new one. |
| 15:50.29 | dc__ | ah n/m, I'll check it out later. |
| 15:50.52 | dc__ | in the meantime I need to get on with gpe-gallery and then a superfast gpe-filemanager :D |
| 15:50.55 | pigeon | pb_: So gtk1 is not going to be support by gpe stuffs pretty soon? |
| 15:51.02 | pb_ | dc__: heh |
| 15:51.10 | pb_ | pigeon: well, the issues there are mostly political |
| 15:52.07 | pigeon | Hmm cos from pango.org it says it requires glib2/gtk2 |
| 15:52.26 | pb_ | Right. |
| 15:54.43 | pigeon | So I believe I'll need to start looking into gtk2 :> |
| 15:57.37 | pb_ | That would seem like a good idea. |
| 15:59.12 | dc__ | yay |
| 15:59.14 | dc__ | it works :D |
| 15:59.27 | pb_ | excellent |
| 15:59.28 | pb_ | you rule |
| 15:59.53 | dc__ | alot easier than gtk1 was |
| 16:00.03 | pb_ | btw, did you see mallum's latest effort? |
| 16:00.05 | pb_ | http://www.handhelds.org/~mallum/mbdesktop.png |
| 16:00.21 | pb_ | looks kind of pretty. |
| 16:03.05 | dc__ | it does indeed |
| 16:03.11 | dc__ | I really look forward to it |
| 16:03.32 | pb_ | yeah. |
| 16:03.39 | mallum | you can click it now |
| 16:03.45 | pb_ | oh, even better. |
| 16:04.27 | mallum | and it re-oraganises itself after a resize |
| 16:05.04 | pb_ | right. |
| 16:05.08 | mallum | I have to write a doc on the .desktop format |
| 16:05.17 | dc__ | ah cool |
| 16:05.19 | mallum | or I'll release iut and it'll be empty ! |
| 16:05.24 | pb_ | :-) |
| 16:05.36 | pb_ | it doesn't do .menu at all then? |
| 16:05.37 | dc__ | only the other day was I dreaming about a nice desktop. |
| 16:05.57 | mallum | pb_: nope |
| 16:06.04 | pb_ | cool. |
| 16:06.09 | mallum | dc__: yeah, I tried that link out you sent me |
| 16:06.21 | dc__ | pb_: okay commited, try it out...well it displays images atleast :] |
| 16:06.24 | dc__ | mallum: cool |
| 16:06.25 | pb_ | mallum: at least that way we don't have to worry about all the old menu cruft in familiar |
| 16:06.26 | pb_ | dc__: cool |
| 16:06.28 | pb_ | trying now |
| 16:06.31 | dc__ | right |
| 16:06.33 | mallum | pb_: yeah |
| 16:06.34 | dc__ | sleep then |
| 16:06.42 | dc__ | friday tomorrow :D |
| 16:06.43 | mallum | pb_: we should put all the PIM apps in the top level |
| 16:06.56 | pigeon | dc__: Today here :P |
| 16:07.15 | pb_ | mallum: hmm |
| 16:07.26 | dc__ | and I got some red bull and no need to go out, so I hope to get gpe-filemanager finished aswell if I'm not distracted by my new case and snes controler :D |
| 16:07.30 | dc__ | pigeon: hah! |
| 16:07.33 | dc__ | night. |
| 16:07.39 | dc__ | :) |
| 16:07.41 | mallum | pb_: trust me ;-) |
| 16:07.45 | pb_ | dc__: heh |
| 16:07.55 | pigeon | Night there dc__ |
| 16:07.59 | pb_ | mallum: ah, you're a doctor? |
| 16:08.04 | mallum | pb_: indeed |
| 16:08.10 | pb_ | mallum: I never realised. |
| 16:09.06 | pb_ | mallum: thing is, putting the PIM apps in the top level is probably OK for familiar, but it might be viewed as an outrage on debian or whatever. |
| 16:10.21 | mallum | pb_: the thing witg vfolders is, its up to app displaying the items to decide where they go |
| 16:10.43 | mallum | pb_: the .desktop files can only hinbt where they 'should' go |
| 16:11.13 | pb_ | right. |
| 16:11.18 | mallum | pb_: see http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/VFolderDesktops.txt |
| 16:11.38 | mallum | pb_: I dont think its 100% dicided yet however |
| 16:11.55 | pb_ | mallum: ah, you have a freedesktop link for every occasion |
| 16:11.59 | pb_ | let me check that one out :-) |
| 16:12.03 | mallum | hehe |
| 16:13.02 | pb_ | I still can't get used to the keybindings in the gtk2 text entry widgets. Anyone know if you can change those in gtkrc? |
| 16:13.35 | moray | I don't know, though I wondered too |
| 16:14.32 | pb_ | Well, something has to be done. I want my ^U back. |
| 16:16.08 | mallum | pb_: http://neugierig.org/content/gtk2/ |
| 16:17.33 | pb_ | mallum: aha, cool. |
| 16:20.59 | moray | aha indeed, sound good |
| 16:21.41 | pb_ | :-/ |
| 16:52.54 | mallum | I like this quote on /. |
| 16:53.09 | mallum | " OS X on a 1.25 GHz machine is slower than NextSTep 3.3 on my old 25 MHz NextStation (16 MB ram)." |
| 16:59.19 | pigeon | mallum: heh :) |
