| 00:57:46 | mibus | hallo |
| 01:05:11 | mibus | hey flypiper |
| 01:18:49 | flypiper | mibus: hi |
| 01:19:37 | mibus | wassup? |
| 01:20:26 | flypiper | trying to find docs on an IBM/system 36... only gotta look through 61,000 docs:)...sup with you? |
| 01:20:39 | mibus | ah |
| 01:21:11 | mibus | im emailing mallum WRT me being stupid WRT X and WMs... or possibly matchbox being broken, don't know which yet... |
| 01:21:42 | flypiper | fun:)) |
| 01:32:26 | gazer | looks in. |
| 01:36:04 | mibus | hi gazer |
| 01:47:22 | gazer | ugh. |
| 01:48:31 | mibus | ? |
| 01:49:49 | gazer | the net connection to my university is horked, so I can't get to my office machines. |
| 01:50:56 | mibus | ah |
| 01:51:30 | gazer | the obnoxious thing is that existing connections kinda sort work, so I can look at my files, but I can't actually get them to my home network. |
| 01:55:29 | mibus | ah, bummer :) |
| 02:41:24 | gazer | woo hoo. everything works again. |
| 02:43:17 | mibus | gazer: yay! |
| 03:10:27 | mibus | slowly drifts into a comfortable sleep, interrupted briefly by vivid dreams of a horrible, fire-breathing psyc assignment due Tuesday |
| 05:00:17 | mibus | ZZZZZzzzzzz |
| 05:21:29 | | mibus: wish i knew |
| 05:21:29 | mibus | ibot: wassup? |
| 05:50:00 | | Since Mon Sep 9 22:33:33 2002, there have been 150 modifications and 727 questions. I have been awake for 4 days, 8 hours, 16 minutes, 27 seconds this session, and currently reference 84297 factoids. Addressing is in require mode. |
| 05:50:00 | mibus | ibot: status |
| 05:50:13 | | moray is currently studying for an MSc in Informatics at Edinburgh University. he has a homepage at http://www-jcsu.jesus.cam.ac.uk/~mma29/ |
| 05:50:13 | mibus | ibot: who is moray |
| 05:50:25 | | spung is luismbo AT netcabo DOT pt |
| 05:50:25 | mibus | ibot, who is spung |
| 05:50:33 | | no idea, mibus |
| 05:50:33 | mibus | ibot: who is gazer |
| 05:50:44 | | mibus: i haven't a clue |
| 05:50:44 | mibus | ibot: who is cmarqu_ |
| 05:50:53 | | mibus: i haven't a clue |
| 05:50:53 | mibus | ibot: who is pigeon? |
| 05:51:01 | | hmmm... dc is a young iPaq hacker or has an email mailto:dctanner@magenet.com or the "added pixmaps to <file>.c" changelog man or a person who loses mibus' code |
| 05:51:01 | mibus | ibot: dc |
| 05:51:11 | | you are Robert Mibus, see http://www.handhelds.org/~mibus or having an email address of mailto:mibus@handhelds.org |
| 05:51:11 | mibus | ibot: me |
| 05:52:17 | mibus | i am Robert Mibus, a Bachelor of IT student in Adelaide, Australia. See http://handhelds.org/~mibus/ or email mibus@handhelds.org |
| 05:52:23 | | it has been said that mibus is Robert Mibus, see http://www.handhelds.org/~mibus or having an email address of mailto:mibus@handhelds.org |
| 05:52:23 | mibus | ibot: i |
| 05:52:30 | | ...but mibus is Robert Mibus, see http://www.handhelds.org/~mibus or having an email address of mailto:mibus@handhelds.org... |
| 05:52:30 | mibus | ibot,i am Robert Mibus, a Bachelor of IT student in Adelaide, Australia. See http://handhelds.org/~mibus/ or email mibus@handhelds.org |
| 05:52:40 | | OK, mibus. |
| 05:52:40 | mibus | ibot,no i am Robert Mibus, a Bachelor of IT student in Adelaide, Australia. See http://handhelds.org/~mibus/ or email mibus@handhelds.org |
| 05:52:44 | | i guess mibus is Robert Mibus, see http://www.handhelds.org/~mibus or having an email address of mailto:mibus@handhelds.org |
| 05:52:44 | mibus | ibot: i |
| 05:53:00 | | you are, like, Robert Mibus, see http://www.handhelds.org/~mibus or having an email address of mailto:mibus@handhelds.org |
| 05:53:00 | mibus | ibot: i |
| 05:53:13 | | ...but mibus is Robert Mibus, see http://www.handhelds.org/~mibus or having an email address of mailto:mibus@handhelds.org... |
| 05:53:13 | mibus | ibot, i am Robert Mibus, a Bachelor of IT student in Adelaide, Australia. See http://handhelds.org/~mibus/ or email mibus@handhelds.org |
| 05:53:24 | | ...but ibot is spiffy or BZFlag and Tangent's bot that hangs out on lots of OPN channels... |
| 05:53:24 | mibus | ibot: you are a pain |
| 05:53:30 | mibus | lol |
| 05:53:33 | | lol is a acronym that stands for Laugh Out Loud. Go to http://mankindvsme.50megs.com/windowsfan.html for more information. |
| 05:53:33 | mibus | ibot: lol |
| 05:53:41 | jsmanrique | good morning |
| 05:53:50 | | .-) |
| 05:53:50 | mibus | ibot: smile |
| 05:53:50 | mibus | hey |
| 05:53:54 | mibus | good arvo :P |
| 05:56:26 | mibus_ | grr |
| 05:56:28 | mibus_ | auto disconnect |
| 05:56:31 | | mibus_: huh? |
| 05:56:31 | mibus_ | ibot: me |
| 05:56:38 | mibus_ | oh |
| 05:56:44 | mibus_ | ive picked up another name |
| 05:56:46 | mibus_ | :( |
| 05:56:49 | | mibus is Robert Mibus, see http://www.handhelds.org/~mibus or having an email address of mailto:mibus@handhelds.org |
| 05:56:49 | mibus_ | ibot: mibus |
| 05:57:17 | | ...but mibus is Robert Mibus, see http://www.handhelds.org/~mibus or having an email address of mailto:mibus@handhelds.org... |
| 05:57:17 | mibus_ | ibot: no, mibus is Robert Mibus, an IT student at University in Adelaide, Australia |
| 05:57:28 | | ...but mibus is Robert Mibus, see http://www.handhelds.org/~mibus or having an email address of mailto:mibus@handhelds.org... |
| 05:57:28 | mibus_ | ibot, no, mibus is Robert Mibus, an IT student at University in Adelaide, Australia |
| 05:57:35 | | mibus_: what? |
| 05:57:35 | mibus_ | ibot: you suck |
| 05:58:13 | | wish i knew, mibus_ |
| 05:58:13 | mibus_ | ibot: where did jsmanrique go? |
| 05:58:18 | | mibus_: sorry... |
| 05:58:18 | mibus_ | ibot: jsmanrique |
| 05:58:24 | | i guess cat is officially used to concatenate files. cat is also used to display the contents of a file on screen. Syntax: cat (file1) (file2) ...(fileN) Where file1 through fileN are the files to display. Example: cat letters/from-mdw displays the file letters/from-mdw. |
| 05:58:24 | mibus_ | ibot: cat |
| 05:58:29 | jsmanrique | here |
| 05:58:33 | jsmanrique | what happens? |
| 05:58:47 | mibus_ | i automatically got bounced by my ISP cos ive been online for 5hrs |
| 05:58:59 | mibus_ | i was having an argument with ibot |
| 05:59:04 | mibus_ | as you may be able to tell ;) |
| 05:59:49 | jsmanrique | what? perhaps I am not understandin what happens? |
| 06:01:34 | mibus_ | because i was online for five hours, my ISP disconnected me from the internet |
| 06:01:44 | jsmanrique | ooops |
| 06:01:52 | mibus_ | unfortunate :) |
| 06:02:10 | mibus_ | i was having an argument with the ibot before because I can't remember how to use it properly :) |
| 06:03:34 | jsmanrique | neither do I |
| 06:05:11 | jsmanrique | for example.. |
| 06:05:18 | | jsmanrique was last seen on #gpe 0 seconds ago, saying: ibot:seen jsmanrique [Sat Sep 14 07:05:18 2002] |
| 06:05:18 | jsmanrique | ibot:seen jsmanrique |
| 06:05:32 | mibus_ | i know a little (like that) |
| 06:05:44 | mibus_ | but im having trouble changing my info on it |
| 06:05:45 | mibus_ | ie. |
| 06:05:45 | jsmanrique | but doing the same in a query with ibot says: |
| 06:05:50 | | somebody said mibus was Robert Mibus, see http://www.handhelds.org/~mibus or having an email address of mailto:mibus@handhelds.org |
| 06:05:50 | mibus_ | ibot: who is mibus |
| 06:06:02 | | ...but mibus is Robert Mibus, see http://www.handhelds.org/~mibus or having an email address of mailto:mibus@handhelds.org... |
| 06:06:02 | mibus_ | ibot: mibus is Robert Mibus |
| 06:06:10 | | ...but mibus is Robert Mibus, see http://www.handhelds.org/~mibus or having an email address of mailto:mibus@handhelds.org... |
| 06:06:10 | mibus_ | ibot: no, mibus is Robert Mibus |
| 06:06:14 | jsmanrique | jsmanrique was last seen on #utah 0 seconds ago, saying: <private message> [Sat Sep 14 07:04:57 2002] |
| 06:06:30 | mibus_ | time to go back to the docs i think :D |
| 06:06:58 | mibus_ | mmm |
| 06:07:04 | mibus_ | no, ibot, mibus is Robert Mibus |
| 06:08:01 | | OK, mibus_. |
| 06:08:01 | mibus_ | ibot: no, ibot, mibus is Robert Mibus |
| 06:09:10 | mibus_ | waaa |
| 06:09:12 | | mibus is Robert Mibus, see http://www.handhelds.org/~mibus or having an email address of mailto:mibus@handhelds.org |
| 06:09:12 | mibus_ | ibot: mibus |
| 06:09:26 | | mibus_: I forgot mibus |
| 06:09:26 | mibus_ | ibot: forget mibus |
| 06:09:28 | | mibus_: excuse me? |
| 06:09:28 | mibus_ | ibot: mibus |
| 06:09:36 | mibus_ | mibus is Robert Mibus |
| 06:09:39 | | mibus_: huh? |
| 06:09:39 | mibus_ | ibot: mibus |
| 06:09:43 | | OK, mibus_. |
| 06:09:43 | mibus_ | ibot: mibus is Robert Mibus |
| 06:09:44 | | somebody said mibus was Robert Mibus |
| 06:09:44 | mibus_ | ibot: mibus |
| 06:10:26 | | ...but mibus is Robert Mibus... |
| 06:10:26 | mibus_ | ibot: mibus is Robert Mibus, Uni student in Adelaide, Australia. See http://handhelds.org/~mibus/ or email mibus@bigpond.com |
| 06:10:31 | | mibus_: I forgot mibus |
| 06:10:31 | mibus_ | ibot: forget mibus |
| 06:10:32 | | OK, mibus_. |
| 06:10:32 | mibus_ | ibot: mibus is Robert Mibus, Uni student in Adelaide, Australia. See http://handhelds.org/~mibus/ or email mibus@bigpond.com |
| 06:10:38 | mibus_ | aha! |
| 06:10:40 | | mibus is Robert Mibus, Uni student in Adelaide, Australia. See http://handhelds.org/~mibus/ or email mailto:mibus@bigpond.com |
| 06:10:40 | mibus_ | ibot: mibus |
| 06:10:53 | | mibus_: I forgot mibus |
| 06:10:53 | mibus_ | ibot: forget mibus |
| 06:11:18 | | OK, mibus_. |
| 06:11:18 | mibus_ | ibot: mibus is gpe-appmgr author Robert Mibus, Uni student in Adelaide, Australia. See http://handhelds.org/~mibus/ or email mibus@bigpond.com |
| 06:13:25 | mibus_ | gotta go |
| 06:13:28 | mibus_ | back later (i hope) |
| 11:27:00 | pb_ | hi mibus |
| 11:34:29 | mibus | hey pb_ |
| 11:34:47 | mibus | never realised you were so against appmgr depending on update-menus? |
| 11:43:31 | pb_ | yeah :-) |
| 11:43:54 | mibus | i wasnt "for" it but wasnt gonna complain if someone told me to do it... |
| 11:44:10 | mibus | where "someone" = mallum/pb/nils/maybe-dc ;) |
| 11:44:40 | pb_ | heh |
| 11:44:54 | pb_ | we had some discussion a couple of days ago, see http://ipaq.secret.org.uk/~timr/gpe/20020912.html.gz |
| 11:54:38 | mibus | 17:58:30cmarqu_So should every app depend on update-menus on its own? 17:58:37pb_cmarqu_: No, that would be even worse. |
| 11:54:55 | mibus | IMHO its not unreasonable for the app to depend on update-menus, its the app thats calling it :D |
| 11:55:18 | mibus | i note that dc isnt dead ;) |
| 11:55:40 | pb_ | Right. But the apps go to great lengths to make themselves installable even if update-menus is missing. |
| 11:56:06 | pb_ | And the apps will work perfectly well even if appmgr, mmenu and so on are not installed, in which case update-menus would be useless. |
| 11:56:20 | mibus | ummm, two lines of postinst? |
| 11:56:24 | mibus | mmm, point |
| 11:56:29 | pb_ | Yeah, dc_ is back among us :-) |
| 11:56:29 | mibus | apps could "suggest:" it? |
| 11:56:42 | mibus | but i do think 'gpe' or 'gpe-apps' should definately Depends: on it |
| 11:56:54 | mibus | have you noticed something with gpe-fm? |
| 11:57:02 | mibus | the display is buggy with lists of small numbers of files... |
| 11:57:04 | pb_ | That would be fine. Unfortunately we don't have any dselect-like tool that actually does anything with Suggests, so although that would let us claim the moral high ground we would be no better off in real terms. |
| 11:57:09 | mibus | remings me of a certain appmgr bug... ;) |
| 11:57:25 | pb_ | The latest gpe-apps does depend on update-menus, so I guess that should be ok for now. |
| 11:57:52 | mibus | yeah |
| 11:57:55 | pb_ | Oh, you mean the way gpe-filemanager spreads out the icons to fill the whole window, so you get loads of space between them? |
| 11:58:04 | mibus | yup |
| 11:58:10 | mibus | anyway i looked at gpe-fm cos i didnt believe dc wouldve done the code himself |
| 11:58:15 | mibus | gee, looks familiar ;) |
| 11:58:19 | pb_ | Ha. :-) |
| 11:58:50 | pb_ | Oh well, at least now we know whose fault the gpe-filemanager bug is. |
| 11:58:58 | mibus | :P |
| 11:59:11 | mibus | im planning on writing a gtk widget based on GtkDrawingArea or a similar widget |
| 11:59:17 | mibus | to replace the current cr*p |
| 11:59:27 | mibus | i can move it to libgpewidget once its semistable |
| 11:59:27 | pb_ | Good idea. |
| 11:59:35 | mibus | then gpe-fm and appmgr can share it fully |
| 11:59:47 | mibus | not only that, but it could be used unmodified in the filesel widget :-D |
| 11:59:53 | pb_ | Okay, cool. |
| 12:06:26 | pb_ | Back later, need to go cut up some firewood. |
| 12:08:39 | mibus | ciao pb_[away] |
| 12:08:52 | mibus | pb_[away]: ur not kidding about the firewood, are you...? |
| 12:08:54 | mibus | pb_[away]: hmmm |
| 12:12:07 | mibus | b |
| 12:12:10 | mibus | grr |
| 12:12:19 | mibus | ignore me, i forgot i dont use click-to-focus ;) |
| 13:52:42 | gazer | looks in. |
| 16:33:30 | pb_ | hi mallum |
| 16:47:42 | prpplague | pb_: howdy |
| 16:47:51 | prpplague | pb_: whats cooking today? |
| 16:47:53 | pb_ | hey prpplague |
| 16:48:09 | pb_ | not a lot, been working in the garden again. |
| 16:48:22 | prpplague | pb_: flowers or vegatibles? |
| 16:48:38 | pb_ | flowers :-) |
| 16:48:43 | mallum | pb_: hey |
| 16:49:18 | prpplague | mallum: ohh np |
| 16:49:38 | prpplague | mallum: something classic uk? bangers and mash? |
| 16:51:09 | mallum | prpplague: no, home made super mario pizza |
| 16:51:48 | prpplague | mallum: lol |
| 16:51:59 | prpplague | mallum: what an no beans on the side? |
| 16:52:05 | prpplague | s/an/and |
| 16:52:12 | mallum | prpplague: just pizza |
| 16:52:22 | prpplague | is a fan of british food and beer |
| 16:52:23 | mallum | has been playing super mario sunshine today |
| 16:53:39 | prpplague | pb_: you do any hardware dev? |
| 16:53:56 | pb_ | prpplague: yeah, some. |
| 16:54:06 | pb_ | prpplague: my company does a lot of electronics stuff. |
| 16:54:24 | prpplague | pb_: interested in looking at the schematics for my new dev board? |
| 16:54:43 | pb_ | sure. |
| 16:55:03 | prpplague | pb_: email ok? |
| 16:55:16 | pb_ | yep: pb@nexus.co.uk |
| 16:57:56 | prpplague | otw |
| 16:58:04 | pb_ | cool. |
| 16:58:20 | prpplague | pb_: i think the only area where we haven't had a whole lot of feedback is on the sdram section |
| 17:07:07 | mallum | prpplague: even seen the british film 'scum' ? |
| 17:07:58 | prpplague | mallum: doesn't ring a bell |
| 17:09:12 | mallum | oh its on later |
| 17:09:36 | prpplague | googles |
| 17:11:17 | prpplague | mallum: http://film.guardian.co.uk/Reader_Review/0,4163,-36325,00.html |
| 17:11:42 | mallum | its a prison film , one thats popular when your a teenage kid so you can quote from it to your mates |
| 17:12:03 | mallum | "Im the daddy in here now" |
| 17:12:04 | prpplague | ahh |
| 17:12:08 | prpplague | lol |
| 17:12:51 | mallum | oh er : "one of the most vicious and dark films ever." |
| 17:13:01 | mallum | hmm, it aint harry potter thats for sure |
| 17:13:35 | mallum | anyway Im being hassled to play empire earth .. biab |
| 21:00:48 | PaxAnima | in what section in the menu/appmanager should I put my calculator? |
| 21:08:22 | jsmanrique | hello |
| 21:08:25 | jsmanrique | good night |
| 21:09:22 | PaxAnima | hello |
| 21:32:33 | pb_ | PaxAnima: put it in PIM. |
| 21:33:26 | PaxAnima | yup |
| 21:51:11 | jsmanrique | a question about gpe-icons in ipaq3100 units.. |
| 21:52:06 | jsmanrique | I have installed qiv in my ipaq, and icons shown in qiv look great.. why using them as icon shows so awful? |
| 21:54:46 | pb_ | That's hard to answer unless you can give a concrete description of the difference. |
| 21:55:00 | mallum_ee | jsmanrique: maybe cos qiv is not alpha blending them ? |
| 21:55:26 | pb_ | Maybe do scaps in both cases, so we can see what you're talking about. |
| 21:55:43 | mallum_ee | pb_: I just loaded an xpm into an ximage then converted it to an rgba[] , then back to an Ximage and the a pixmap :) |
| 21:56:09 | moray | mallum_ee: or qiv may be being cleverer about rendering them to the display depth? |
| 21:56:16 | pb_ | mallum_ee: Ha, cool. |
| 21:56:42 | mallum_ee | pb_: I is lord bit shift master ;) |
| 21:56:52 | jsmanrique | I don't know.. if I could do a scap I will post it |
| 21:57:21 | jsmanrique | but it seems that qiv is being cleverer |
| 21:57:39 | mallum_ee | moray: I have a feeling that the 3100 X tells the apps its 16bit and maybe just chops bits off when it comes to display ( like the 3600 says its 16bit when really 12 ) |
| 21:58:02 | moray | mallum_ee: erk |
| 21:58:20 | moray | mallum_ee: that could explain the extent of the problem people say there is of course |
| 21:59:04 | mallum_ee | moray: you dont happen to know what ipkg xdpyinfo is in ? ipkg find is not showing anything |
| 21:59:12 | PaxAnima | how do I upload ipkgs to the unstable feed? |
| 21:59:27 | mallum_ee | moray: oops its ok I got it |
| 21:59:53 | mallum_ee | jsmanrique: if you've got the space could you install xauxclients ? |
| 21:59:56 | pb_ | PaxAnima: with ipkg-upload |
| 22:00:48 | pb_ | mallum_ee: hmm, the 3600 really is 16 bit in some sense; it would be kind of perverse for the 3100 to claim the same thing. |
| 22:00:51 | PaxAnima | pb_: is that a script I must download? |
| 22:00:52 | jsmanrique | mallum_ee: what is that? how much space? |
| 22:01:03 | pb_ | PaxAnima: yeah, or use the web form. |
| 22:02:04 | PaxAnima | pb_: could you point me to the script? |
| 22:02:11 | mallum_ee | jsmanrique: http://ipkgfind.handhelds.org/details.phtml?package=xaux-clients&id=734946&official=&format= |
| 22:02:17 | pb_ | PaxAnima: it's in ipkg cvs. |
| 22:02:18 | mallum_ee | jsmanrique: shouldn't be that big |
| 22:02:37 | mallum_ee | jsmanrique: you can remove after we've 'experimented' with your ipaq :) |
| 22:03:49 | pb_ | mallum_ee: looks like the 3100 kernel reports itself as 4bpp, though I have no idea what the X server will do with that. |
| 22:06:07 | jsmanrique | ok, I don't know how big it is.. but I could try.. |
| 22:06:19 | mallum_ee | jsmanrique: please do , its prolly only small |
| 22:06:32 | mallum_ee | pb_: I have a feeling that tiny X may do some funkyness |
| 22:07:10 | pb_ | mallum_ee: very probably. :-/ |
| 22:08:52 | jsmanrique | then, I have to quit to make it.. |
| 22:10:44 | PaxAnima | do I have to gpg sign the ipkg? |
| 22:11:03 | pb_ | yep. |
| 22:11:38 | PaxAnima | I don't have/use gpg... |
| 22:11:50 | pb_ | then you cannot upload packages. |
| 22:12:53 | PaxAnima | oh well.. I'll install it then |
| 22:23:43 | PaxAnima | do I need to upload my public key somewhere? |
| 22:24:03 | pb_ | Send it to Jamey. |
| 22:24:21 | PaxAnima | nothing I can do from the account page at hh.org? |
| 22:24:28 | pb_ | No. |
| 22:25:02 | pb_ | If you are keen to have some particular package uploaded, maybe someone else can do it for you. |
| 22:25:36 | PaxAnima | yes.. just thought I could upload psCalc |
| 22:25:43 | PaxAnima | what's the gpg command for exporting my public key? |
| 22:26:08 | pb_ | gpg --export |
| 22:26:27 | PaxAnima | thanks |
| 22:26:45 | jsmanrique | # ipkg install xaux-clients_4.2-3_arm.ipk |
| 22:26:45 | jsmanrique | Installing xaux-clients (4.2-3) |
| 22:26:45 | jsmanrique | Configuring xaux-clients...Done |
| 22:26:52 | jsmanrique | xaux installed |
| 22:27:34 | jsmanrique | PaxAnima: could you post where pscalc is? I could test it now.. |
| 22:27:46 | pb_ | how about the source to psCalc, is that in CVS? |
| 22:27:56 | PaxAnima | pb_: not yet.. I need an account? |
| 22:28:09 | PaxAnima | pb_: could you put the ipkg in the feed for me? |
| 22:28:38 | pb_ | OK. Mail me a tarball. |
| 22:28:50 | jsmanrique | mallum_ee: xaux-clients is installed.. |
| 22:29:20 | jsmanrique | PaxAnima: what is your site? I don't have it on my laptop bookmarks.. |
| 22:29:56 | PaxAnima | jsmanrique: http://handhelds.org/~paxanima/files/pscalc_0.1_arm.ipk for the calculator |
| 22:30:30 | jsmanrique | thanks |
| 22:30:55 | PaxAnima | pb_: address? (the code is not fully cleaned up yet, just a small warning ;) |
| 22:31:07 | pb_ | pb@nexus.co.uk |
| 22:31:23 | pb_ | Do you want me to check the code into CVS as well? |
| 22:32:15 | PaxAnima | pb_: sure... (I also need a crash cours on CVS very soon ;) |
| 22:32:28 | pb_ | OK. |
| 22:32:41 | pb_ | I think there are some CVS primers on the web, maybe even on the hh.org site. |
| 22:34:13 | PaxAnima | code sent away |
| 22:34:20 | pb_ | You will need to find someone with the right privs to add you to the gpe group; I guess that would be jamey or duffekn, or maybe someone like nils. |
| 22:36:23 | jsmanrique | PaxAnima: it looks nice... |
| 22:37:36 | PaxAnima | jsmanrique: thanks... are you using it in portraitor landscape mode? |
| 22:38:56 | PaxAnima | jsmanrique: if you have it in landscape mode when launching it, the layout changes to a more landscape friendly mode |
| 22:39:01 | jsmanrique | PaxAnima: now, portait.. let me see it in landscape |
| 22:42:37 | jsmanrique | PaxAnima: well, paste button appears in landscape.. but not in protrait |
| 22:43:22 | PaxAnima | jsmanrique: hmm.. guess it's a font size thing (it fits perfectly on my ipaq) |
| 22:43:26 | jsmanrique | PaxAnima: it looks fine, and at least pixmap buttons (copy/paste) look great, much better than gpe-edit buttons |
| 22:43:43 | pb_ | PaxAnima: it just segfaults for me. |
| 22:44:19 | PaxAnima | pb_: compiled it yourself? |
| 22:44:48 | pb_ | Yes. |
| 22:44:53 | jsmanrique | PaxAnima: is the source code in your site? |
| 22:45:36 | PaxAnima | pb_: on my desktop and ipaq it compiles, but on my rh laptop it doesn't... it has something to do with the objects from the lex/yacc parser |
| 22:46:03 | jsmanrique | mallum_ee: why did you want me to install xauxclients |
| 22:46:09 | jsmanrique | mallum_ee:??? |
| 22:46:47 | pb_ | jsmanrique: I think he wanted you to run xdpyinfo. |
| 22:47:05 | jsmanrique | pb_: just it? |
| 22:47:39 | PaxAnima | pb_: the reason for it segfaulting is the gtk app trying to access the global variables (which is very strange), but this only happens when the lex/yacc parser is linked in |
| 22:47:54 | mallum_ee | jsmanrique: run xdpyinfo |
| 22:48:30 | mallum_ee | jsmanrique: and copy the output here if not to much or #flood if too much |
| 22:48:31 | jsmanrique | mallum_ee: just done it |
| 22:48:36 | pb_ | PaxAnima: ok, well, let me know when you have a fix. |
| 22:48:46 | PaxAnima | pb_: don't know the error :/ |
| 22:49:47 | jsmanrique | PaxAnima: is the source code in your site? |
| 22:50:11 | PaxAnima | jsmanrique: not at the moment... |
| 22:51:05 | PaxAnima | wait 2 sec and I'll put it on the site |
| 22:51:19 | pb_ | PaxAnima: also, there is no license statement in the code; I can't check it in to CVS without that. |
| 22:51:45 | PaxAnima | oh... |
| 22:52:00 | jsmanrique | PaxAnima: I would like to take a look it.. just to know how could it be useful for xcas gtk port a friend of mine wants to do.. |
| 22:52:15 | PaxAnima | pb_: the standard GPL header thingy? |
| 22:52:21 | pb_ | sure. |
| 22:52:36 | jsmanrique | mallum_ee: what do you exactly want from it? it gives a lot of info |
| 22:52:39 | pb_ | anything that confirms the code is under the GPL would be fine. |
| 22:52:52 | PaxAnima | any standard thing you could put in for me? |
| 22:53:16 | PaxAnima | jsmanrique: don't know how usefull the code is, but sure, look at it ;) |
| 22:53:17 | mallum_ee | jsmanrique: all of it if pos - you can always mail it me |
| 22:53:42 | jsmanrique | ok |
| 22:53:43 | pb_ | PaxAnima: see the gpe-calendar source for example, those files have a standard comment header at the top. |
| 22:53:57 | PaxAnima | pb_: ok.. |
| 23:01:07 | jsmanrique | mallum_ee: file sent.. |
| 23:01:54 | mallum_ee | jsmanrique: ta very much |
| 23:05:09 | mallum_ee | hmm, looks like its a staticgrey visual with 16 colors ( ie it is 4bit ) |
| 23:05:43 | jsmanrique | I thought you had a ipaq3100 unit |
| 23:19:07 | jsmanrique | I am back |
| 23:19:39 | jsmanrique | well, see the difference between gpe-filemanager icon: |
| 23:20:02 | jsmanrique | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.16683.png |
| 23:20:26 | jsmanrique | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.18093.png |
| 23:20:38 | jsmanrique | first one is how it appears in gpe-appmgr |
| 23:20:47 | jsmanrique | and second is from qiv |
| 23:22:08 | jsmanrique | I have added tow more scaps, one from psCalc running landscape: http://handhelds.org/scap/port.20346.png |
| 23:23:08 | jsmanrique | and other from gpe-edit to show diffs between psCalc icons (copy/paste) and gpe-edit (icons): http://handhelds.org/scap/port.32766.png |
| 23:23:14 | moray | ah, that's poor scaling rather than a colour-depth problem? |
| 23:23:40 | jsmanrique | and as you can see in last one, I have added xcas to menu list.. under PIM :( |
| 23:23:58 | PaxAnima | jsmanrique: it's the same icons, but I guess I load them diffently |
| 23:24:07 | jsmanrique | moray: I think it is a problem of size shown image |
| 23:24:11 | moray | yes |
| 23:24:35 | PaxAnima | guess gpe-edit uses set_usize() thing, which is baaaad |
| 23:25:27 | jsmanrique | well.. |
| 23:26:16 | jsmanrique | I don't know what it is. For me, it seems a problem of icon size. It is like rescalling the icon a bit bigger.. |
| 23:26:27 | jsmanrique | I don't know how can this be fixed |
| 23:27:06 | jsmanrique | but if icons could be shown shown in their default size, I think it would be better look |
| 23:27:47 | moray | on my ipaq (h3600) the xstroke icon is badly scaled in the same way (and is in the wrong section, unless it's changed recently...) |
| 23:29:21 | PaxAnima | jsmanrique: gpe-edit looks fine on my ipaq (3850).... but good to see that psCalc looks good on your ipaq as well ;) |
| 23:29:59 | jsmanrique | I don't know how can this be fixed |
| 23:30:39 | PaxAnima | guess it's something to do with libgpewidget... but it's strange, yes |
| 23:31:46 | jsmanrique | perhaps |
| 23:35:07 | jsmanrique | well, maybe tomorrow we could continue speaking about this.. |
