| 13:40:09 | cmarqu_ | Do you guys run XFree86 4.2 with Gnome2? |
| 14:27:46 | pb_ | cmarqu_: yes |
| 14:36:02 | cmarqu_ | pb_: Okay. I'm updating right now. I guess my nautilus problem is due to http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=68030 |
| 14:36:53 | pb_ | Ah, that. |
| 14:37:55 | pb_ | I'm using the new xrender and xft from fontconfig, so that would explain why I don't see the same crash. |
| 14:38:23 | cmarqu_ | Self-coompiled? |
| 14:39:56 | pb_ | Yeah. |
| 14:40:45 | cmarqu_ | Hmm. Well, it's almost done now, I hope it works. |
| 14:56:22 | Hallski_ | hi |
| 15:05:28 | cmarqu_ | dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/gnome-libs-data_1.4.2-4_all.deb (--unpack): |
| 15:05:31 | cmarqu_ | trying to overwrite `/usr/share/pixmaps/gnome-default-dlg.png', which is also in package libgnomeui-common |
| 15:05:37 | cmarqu_ | Can I force this somehow? |
| 15:06:36 | moray | dpkg --over-overwrite ? |
| 15:08:39 | cmarqu_ | Thanks. Lots of unconfigured packages now... |
| 15:09:38 | pb_ | Do "dpkg --configure -a" loads of times, that will probably sort them out. |
| 15:10:12 | cmarqu_ | Ah, cool. That worked. |
| 15:24:41 | cmarqu_ | Good old "could not open default font 'fixed'" problems now |
| 15:26:58 | pb_ | :-/ |
| 15:27:33 | cmarqu_ | Hel. Shouldn't this be in the misc dir? |
| 15:33:21 | pb_ | Yeah, I think so. |
| 15:33:24 | pb_ | Do you have xfonts-base installed? |
| 15:33:34 | cmarqu_ | Yes, and it's there. |
| 15:33:40 | pb_ | Ah. |
| 15:33:41 | cmarqu_ | Do I need to run xfs? |
| 15:33:51 | pb_ | Not unless that's what you have configured as your fontpath. |
| 15:35:34 | cmarqu_ | Hmm. I now killed it, and have the misc dir as the only thing in my fontpath. Still no go. |
| 15:35:54 | cmarqu_ | It's those experimental branden 4.2 packages... |
| 15:36:33 | pb_ | Those are the ones I'm using too. |
| 15:37:57 | cmarqu_ | Damn. |
| 15:38:15 | cmarqu_ | What is your FontPath? |
| 15:42:23 | pb_ | Hmm, I have loads. |
| 15:42:27 | pb_ | FontPath "unix/:7100" # local font server |
| 15:42:28 | pb_ | FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc" |
| 15:42:28 | pb_ | FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic" |
| 15:42:28 | pb_ | FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled" |
| 15:42:28 | pb_ | FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled" |
| 15:42:28 | pb_ | FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1" |
| 15:42:30 | pb_ | FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo" |
| 15:42:32 | pb_ | FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi" |
| 15:42:34 | pb_ | FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi" |
| 15:42:38 | pb_ | Xfs doesn't seem to be running. |
| 15:43:15 | Hallski | does gpe currently use gtk 1 or 2? |
| 15:43:24 | pb_ | 1 |
| 15:43:33 | Hallski | any plans on switching to 2? |
| 15:44:05 | pb_ | Yes, but switching to gtk 2 faces stiff opposition from some quarters. |
| 15:44:27 | Hallski | oh, why? |
| 15:44:29 | pb_ | A few bits of gpe are already gtk 2 ready if you want to try it out. |
| 15:44:38 | pb_ | See the mailing list archives. |
| 15:46:53 | cmarqu_ | Argh. I had a different, second Files section. |
| 15:47:01 | Hallski | pb_: ok |
| 15:47:02 | pb_ | Aha. |
| 15:47:08 | Hallski | just got the ipaq, trying out qpe right now |
| 15:47:10 | cmarqu_ | defoma added ti |
| 15:47:12 | cmarqu_ | it |
| 16:10:56 | PaxAnima | GPE with a G? |
| 16:30:50 | pb_ | PaxAnima: How is your proposal for alarm handling progressing? |
| 17:00:00 | mod | hello |
| 17:09:29 | pb_ | hello mod. |
| 17:22:31 | cmarqu_ | Heck, my nautilus is still crashing. Now, it draws at least my desktop icons, but as soon as I click anything, they go away too. |
| 17:42:21 | pb_ | Crumbs. |
| 17:45:11 | cmarqu_ | I also need to disable Xft to get X started at all. |
| 17:46:40 | cmarqu_ | pb_: Do you have fonts in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/ or /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/ ? |
| 17:48:07 | pb_ | In Type1, yes. I don't have a TrueType directory, apparently. |
| 17:48:18 | cmarqu_ | Which ones are that? |
| 17:49:00 | cmarqu_ | Both dirs are empty for me. |
| 17:55:17 | pb_ | I think the type1 fonts come from xfonts-scalable. |
| 17:56:06 | cmarqu_ | Ah. Didn't have this package. |
| 17:57:58 | cmarqu_ | Good, comes up now. |
| 17:58:38 | cmarqu_ | Yes! Nautilus is up!!!1! |
| 17:58:53 | pb_ | Cool! |
| 17:58:55 | cmarqu_ | hugs pb_ and Nautilus |
| 18:58:52 | Hallski | does the address and calendar tools support any kind of syncing yet? |
| 19:10:09 | cmarqu_ | No. |
| 19:28:24 | Hallski | cmarqu_: ok |
| 19:34:55 | Hallski | ok, time to remove qpe and try out gpe |
| 19:36:26 | mod | hello |
| 19:36:40 | mod | my fonts are to big howto to set them smaller? |
| 19:40:06 | cmarqu_ | install gtk-theme-gpe |
| 19:51:51 | flypiper | mod: if gpe theme is still too large install gtk-theme-xenolight.....it's small |
| 20:58:05 | Hallski | hmm .. anyone know where I can find gtk as a .ipk? |
| 20:58:50 | PaxAnima | Hallski: in the feed? |
| 20:58:59 | Hallski | PaxAnima: what do you mean? |
| 20:59:18 | Hallski | I tried "ipkg install task-gpe" |
| 20:59:27 | Hallski | and it fails due to not finding gtk |
| 20:59:48 | PaxAnima | strange |
| 20:59:56 | Hallski | seems it should depend on libgtk1.2? |
| 21:00:05 | flypiper | Hallski: is it failing on libgtk |
| 21:00:15 | Hallski | sh-2.03# ipkg install task-gpe |
| 21:00:15 | Hallski | ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for task-gpe: |
| 21:00:15 | Hallski | gtk |
| 21:01:01 | flypiper | Hallski: what root image did you install? |
| 21:01:11 | Hallski | 0.5.2 |
| 21:02:02 | flypiper | umm you might need to install v.06 to get into the right feed...otherwise you will have to upgrade |
| 21:02:17 | flypiper | upgrade can be messy |
| 21:02:48 | Hallski | ok, know where I can find it? |
| 21:03:12 | flypiper | from hh.org/ install.... grab the bootgpe.jffs2 image |
| 21:04:13 | flypiper | errr it might be under familiar.. v..06pre1 |
| 21:04:23 | flypiper | lemme look |
| 21:04:32 | Hallski | yeah, just found it |
| 21:04:35 | Hallski | http://familiar.handhelds.org/releases/v0.6-pre1/ |
| 21:04:36 | Hallski | thanks! |
| 21:06:07 | flypiper | http://familiar.handhelds.org/familiar/releases/v0.6-pre1/install/H3600/install.html |
| 21:10:15 | Hallski | oh, gpe is getting to be the default environment in familiar? |
| 21:12:32 | flypiper | :) |
| 21:16:14 | Hallski | uploading new root :) |
| 21:17:01 | flypiper | :-) |
| 21:32:49 | PaxAnima | damn libversit |
| 21:55:39 | flypiper | Hallski: how is the flash going? |
| 22:01:36 | dc_ | :] |
| 22:01:41 | flypiper | dc_: ???? |
| 22:01:47 | flypiper | welcome:) |
| 22:02:13 | dc_ | flypiper: hey |
| 22:04:44 | Hallski | flypiper: just fine :) |
| 22:06:20 | mallum | hey dc |
| 22:12:03 | dc_ | mallum: oh hey |
| 22:13:20 | mallum | bedtime now |
| 22:13:24 | mallum | g'night |
| 22:14:56 | dc_ | heh |