| 00:02:45 | | i think pb_ is like pb |
| 00:02:45 | flypiper | ibot: pb_ |
| 00:02:51 | | pb is some kind of GPE hacker, and can be reached at mailto:pb@nexus.co.uk |
| 00:02:51 | flypiper | ibot: pb |
| 00:05:03 | artrix | speaking of gpe, for some odd reason, it'll lock up after you power on and output black lines every other line - seems that pcmcia isnt going well there |
| 00:05:29 | artrix | then again, it's familiar 0.6 |
| 00:06:18 | flypiper | artrix: I just reflashed my 3800 with bootgpe.jffs2.. and now don't have usb,wireless,or my old nic working.. very nice |
| 00:06:54 | flypiper | I have a feeling the hh17 kernel is flakey |
| 00:07:46 | artrix | but you're getting similar problems as well? |
| 00:08:24 | flypiper | dunno can't suspend it.. oh lemme try to power it off |
| 00:09:33 | flypiper | power down doesn't work either:( |
| 00:09:36 | artrix | had to remove wlan-ng to even get any wireless 802.11b networking |
| 00:09:43 | artrix | I'm using a 3635 |
| 00:10:03 | flypiper | I have inserted and removed it a few times.. still no luck |
| 00:12:33 | artrix | that, and I found the gpe prebuilt image to be worse with my problems |
| 00:13:16 | flypiper | that's what im trying to use.. guess I will switch back to my old pre1 image |
| 00:13:41 | artrix | which pre1? |
| 00:14:16 | flypiper | 6pre1 |
| 00:15:20 | flypiper | I think it has the hh15 kernel in it.. which everything worked well with |
| 00:18:05 | artrix | prebuilt gpe image? |
| 00:32:14 | flypiper | yep |
| 00:36:33 | flypiper | looks like bootsrap-v06.pre1.jffs2 ...flashing now |
| 00:37:38 | flypiper | the bootgpe-v06-8.jffs2 in the feed is seriously broken:( |
| 00:38:46 | artrix | I know. |
| 00:38:55 | artrix | so is the included wlan-ng |
| 00:40:14 | artrix | so that file above is the way to go so far? |
| 00:41:05 | flypiper | not the v06-8 image.. but it looks like they have changed the hh.org feeds to all point to the -8 image |
| 00:41:58 | flypiper | im flashing my bootstrap-v06pre1.jffs2 image now I can tell ya in a few... but it's on 3800 |
| 00:42:28 | flypiper | lemme look around in lorien and see if the old image is there anyplace |
| 00:43:18 | artrix | the one I'm downloading is 25-jul-2002, 4.8M |
| 00:43:24 | artrix | h3600 |
| 00:46:40 | flypiper | that is prolly a good one .. the one im flashing is 4.86M |
| 00:52:40 | artrix | that, and if I could say something about the wlan-ng in 0.6 |
| 00:52:58 | artrix | spits out DIXII frame too large errors |
| 00:53:29 | flypiper | yea it's really hosed.. it wouldn't even run my 8390 pcmcia nic card.. |
| 00:53:53 | artrix | they might want to back down that to what wlan-ng code was used for the 2.4.7 kernel release |
| 00:53:58 | artrix | since that worked |
| 00:54:30 | flypiper | dunno.. but hh15 was very good.. and hh17a-c.. are hosed |
| 00:54:41 | artrix | (quite well until some hardware mishap of mine sent it in for a repair unrelated to the software)) |
| 00:54:57 | artrix | you mean that wlan-ng actually works in hh15? |
| 00:55:17 | flypiper | orinoco did for my compaq card out of the box.. |
| 00:55:30 | flypiper | my baby is writing now |
| 00:55:40 | flypiper | should be booting in a few |
| 00:56:16 | artrix | I'm referring to wlan-ng's prism2_cs stuff |
| 00:57:27 | flypiper | yea.. this compaq card uses the prism2 driver.. but support for prism was built into the orinoco driver ... the hh17c kernel loaded prism2_cs..and gave me loads of errors |
| 01:02:01 | artrix | the reason I ever switch over to prism2_cs is basically to do wireless "monitoring" |
| 01:02:21 | artrix | seems to be the only driver that triggers that properly |
| 01:03:06 | flypiper | ahhh what do you use to monitor wireless? |
| 01:03:13 | flypiper | airsort? |
| 01:04:19 | artrix | that, and kismet at the same time on a laptop, kismet primarily on a laptop |
| 01:04:29 | artrix | er kismet primarily on ipaq |
| 01:04:58 | flypiper | ahhh I have been trying to get airsnort compiled on skiffs for my ipaq but keep running into lib deps |
| 01:05:29 | flypiper | the deb for airsnort doesn't seem to work on my debian notebook.. so it polly isn't right:( |
| 01:06:37 | artrix | I compiled it manually |
| 01:07:13 | artrix | airsnort seems to find these cloaked stuff, that's also why I run it alongside with kismet |
| 01:14:41 | artrix | but which libs are giving you trouble? |
| 01:15:04 | flypiper | libpcap.. |
| 01:19:13 | artrix | that probably has to be compiled manually |
| 01:20:05 | artrix | or at least ./configured |
| 01:20:35 | flypiper | ahhh I'll try that in a few |
| 01:22:14 | flypiper | agggg my image has hh14 kernel. ... im installing hh15a and the modules now |
| 01:23:57 | flypiper | yaaahhhhhooo wireless card is up... |
| 01:24:04 | flypiper | ipkg update..now |
| 01:24:28 | flypiper | and ipkg install gpe...downloading |
| 01:24:37 | flypiper | I'll see how that goes |
| 01:25:59 | flypiper | have to remember to stay away from ipkg upgrade..:( |
| 01:35:20 | flypiper | artrix: is there a deb for kismet? |
| 01:41:31 | flypiper | nm.. found it.. and configuring it now on my deb notebook |
| 01:45:14 | artrix | but as long as I stay away from ipkg upgrade, the old image should work |
| 01:45:48 | flypiper | sure |
| 01:46:45 | flypiper | ahhhh I have gpe again.. with working wireless...:)) |
| 01:47:42 | artrix | with wlan-ng working? or just orinoco_cs? |
| 01:48:15 | flypiper | orinoco_cs.. but installed wlan-modules |
| 01:49:27 | artrix | as in wlan-ng? |
| 01:51:51 | flypiper | how do you want me to check it? |
| 01:55:45 | artrix | see if those DIXII Frame too large errors happen |
| 01:56:22 | artrix | if you have a prism2_cs adapter availible... |
| 01:56:37 | flypiper | I have been downloaing gpe packages and now postinstall.. no errors ... when this finishes I 'll check the logs |
| 01:57:09 | flypiper | iwconfig shows prism I as NICKNAME |
| 01:57:39 | flypiper | I need to check usb networking out |
| 01:58:09 | artrix | oh well. |
| 01:59:05 | flypiper | I haven't seen any errors..... where would you like me to look in kmsg? |
| 01:59:40 | flypiper | >eth0: Station identity 001f:0003:0000:0008 |
| 01:59:40 | flypiper | <7>eth0: Looks like an Intersil firmware version 0.08 |
| 01:59:40 | flypiper | <7>eth0: Ad-hoc demo mode supported |
| 01:59:40 | flypiper | <7>eth0: IEEE standard IBSS ad-hoc mode supported |
| 01:59:40 | flypiper | <7>eth0: WEP supported, 104-bit key |
| 01:59:41 | flypiper | <7>eth0: MAC address 00:05:5D:D5:ED:3C |
| 01:59:43 | flypiper | <7>eth0: Station name "Prism I" |
| 01:59:45 | flypiper | <7>eth0: ready |
| 01:59:47 | flypiper | <7>eth0: index 0x01: Vcc 5.0, irq 42, io 0xc49b0000-0xc49b003f |
| 01:59:57 | flypiper | that's from kmsg |
| 02:01:03 | artrix | ping seems to work, but outbound from ipaq stuff such as wget |
| 02:01:09 | artrix | will trigger it |
| 02:01:32 | flypiper | just wgeted the MS fonts.. no errors |
| 02:01:52 | artrix | which driver? |
| 02:02:12 | artrix | orinoco's fine, prism2_cs is the bad one |
| 02:02:15 | flypiper | orinoco |
| 02:03:03 | artrix | oh. then I'll take a look at it when the flash boots |
| 02:12:39 | flypiper | do you know if there is a config file for kismet? |
| 02:13:19 | flypiper | nm.. I meant airsnort |
| 02:21:52 | flypiper | kewl.. gpe-nmf installed without a problem |
| 04:29:14 | colin_werk | Morning. |
| 07:54:55 | pb_ | morning |
| 07:55:09 | colin_werk | Hi pb_ |
| 08:00:03 | mallum | pb_: hi |
| 08:01:38 | colin_werk | Could somebody make a tarball from gpe-sketchbook and send it to c.marquardt@alcatel.de please? I've got no CVS here... |
| 08:03:15 | pb_ | OK, just a minute. |
| 08:04:07 | colin_werk | Thanks. |
| 08:05:21 | pb_ | Done. |
| 08:07:36 | colin_werk | Got it, thanks very much. |
| 08:07:43 | colin_werk | --> Lunch |
| 08:34:39 | pb_ | Hell, the screen on my iPAQ seems to have failed. |
| 08:47:12 | mallum | arg! |
| 08:47:16 | mallum | did you drop it ? |
| 08:49:16 | pb_ | No, it was just sitting in the cradle. One minute it was working, the next broken. |
| 08:58:59 | mallum | pb_: hmm thats wierd, tried a hard reset of it ? |
| 09:04:08 | pb_ | Yeah, didn't help. |
| 09:24:55 | pb_ | mallum: Ah, it's working again now. Must have been a bad connection inside: I got it back by smacking the ipaq around a bit. |
| 09:26:29 | colin_werk | Phew, |
| 09:27:04 | colin_werk | Argh. jameys mailer breaks threading, which is especially ugly in the ML archive. |
| 09:28:21 | pb_ | Yes. I don't know what mailer he uses, but he clearly needs to get a better one. |
| 09:28:49 | colin_werk | We should plant this thought in his subconscious... |
| 09:29:18 | mallum | I think he uses lookout |
| 09:30:51 | mallum | they have to at HP to get at the exchange server IIRC |
| 09:31:17 | mallum | though there was talk of them switching to 'exchange html scraping' enhanced evolution |
| 09:32:30 | colin_werk | might get Lotus Notes in the future :/ |
| 09:32:59 | colin_werk | HP should use OpenMail ... |
| 09:33:46 | colin_werk | if [ -x /usr/bin/update-menus && ! /usr/bin/update-menus ]; then exit $?; fi was suggested by nelson for the postinst. Should I use that as the example on the GpeHacking wiki page? |
| 09:34:19 | pb_ | Sure, good idea. |
| 09:34:59 | pb_ | Ugh, Lotus Notes. ARM uses that almost exclusively, it's a nightmare. |
| 09:43:10 | colin_werk | Yeah. One cannot even write RFC conformant mails, not to talk about style. It enfoces fullquotes and other crap, AFAIK |
| 09:43:31 | colin_werk | Ah, you are back. Don't leave me alone with ibot! |
| 09:46:30 | pb_ | Ha. OPN still as dependable as ever. |
| 09:48:21 | colin_werk | freenode.info, if you'd please... ;) |
| 09:48:50 | pb_ | Oh yes, my mistake. |
| 09:50:00 | mallum | we need to get this person -> http://www.kare.com/ to join gpe ;) |
| 09:56:53 | colin_werk | Oh. She did the Nautilus stuff... http://www.kare.com/MakePortfolioPage.cgi?page=14 |
| 09:57:16 | mallum | yeah and most of the original mac / windows 3 / os warp etc |
| 09:57:26 | mallum | she is quite a mumma |
| 10:48:58 | flypiper | morning |
| 10:53:34 | flypiper | pb_: I downloaded bootgpe.jffs2 off of hh.org site last night and flashed it on my 3800.... It made my ipaq deaf,dumb,and mute. couldn't even get my old relieable pcmcia nic to work...aaaaagggggg |
| 10:55:16 | pb_ | flypiper: hmm, that's not supposed to happen. :-} |
| 10:55:34 | pb_ | flypiper: any clues as to what went wrong? |
| 10:55:40 | flypiper | pb_: I figured that.. |
| 10:56:15 | flypiper | dunno.. prism2 gives me a vcc error....same with the nic driver smc91c92 |
| 10:56:38 | pb_ | do you have the vcc option set in the right place? |
| 10:57:42 | flypiper | don't have the image installed now... I installed v06pre1 familiar image from july26, and hh15 kernel in that and did an install gpe...to check that |
| 10:57:49 | flypiper | it works fine... |
| 10:58:08 | flypiper | all the gpe stuff that is... didn't see any problems there.. |
| 10:58:17 | pb_ | okay, cool. |
| 10:58:26 | pb_ | suggest you talk to jamey about the problems with the new bootgpe image. |
| 10:58:54 | flypiper | sure... I dunno who is building the kernels.. but I think it's there |
| 10:59:06 | pb_ | that would be jamey also, I think. Either him or Andy. |
| 10:59:57 | flypiper | OK. |
| 11:01:45 | flypiper | has stayhome duty today (youngest daughter is sick) :) |
| 11:30:12 | mccarthy | pb_: three problems with the new libgpewidget |
| 11:30:35 | mallum | just bought a massive win32 programming book :( |
| 11:31:19 | PaxAnima | win32? |
| 11:31:46 | | pb_ was last seen on #handhelds.org 3 minutes and 40 seconds ago, saying: the transition from configured -> suspended is what causes the detach to happen. [Fri Aug 23 12:28:06 2002] |
| 11:31:46 | mccarthy | ibot seen pb_? |
| 11:31:56 | pb_ | mccarthy: use bugzilla |
| 11:32:08 | mccarthy | pb_: but I wanna just fix them now! |
| 11:32:30 | pb_ | ok. |
| 11:32:32 | mccarthy | pb_: the first is easy... the new "init" makes the arrows stick around forever |
| 11:32:36 | mallum | PaxAnima: Yeah, I'd like to have a go at making the win32 XServer rootless |
| 11:32:50 | mccarthy | pb_: so I put in a "hide_arrows" when we switch modes |
| 11:32:57 | PaxAnima | mallum: rootless? |
| 11:33:08 | pb_ | mccarthy: what version of libgpewidget? |
| 11:33:23 | mccarthy | pb_: I dont know yesturdays CVS (Maybe the day before) |
| 11:33:33 | mallum | PaxAnima: yeah like the OSX one |
| 11:33:50 | pb_ | mccarthy: I think that one is fixed already, try the latest package in unstable. |
| 11:33:56 | mccarthy | pb_: has gtkdatesel changed in the last two days? |
| 11:34:02 | pb_ | yes. |
| 11:34:06 | mallum | PaxAnima: also Im interested in finding out how xlib etc compares to win32 windows stuff |
| 11:34:09 | PaxAnima | ok |
| 11:38:32 | mccarthy | pb_: OK. only two (smaller) bugs now |
| 11:38:41 | mccarthy | you fixed the same one I fixed |
| 11:38:54 | pb_ | ok, what are the other two bugs? |
| 11:39:16 | mccarthy | pb_: its seems that the gtkdatesel ignores setting the date (i.e., via pressing the today button) |
| 11:39:43 | mccarthy | everything else updates (the correct day, week, etc. is *displayed* but the datesel shows no change) |
| 11:42:18 | mccarthy | pb_: the other one is really small.... it has to do with switching months... the *first* month switch click jumps to the last day of the month, then the rest work fine |
| 11:42:24 | pb_ | hmm, right |
| 11:42:48 | mccarthy | pb_: I will put the second in bugzilla (it is small and we just dont want to forget) |
| 11:42:51 | pb_ | ok, cool. |
| 11:42:59 | mccarthy | pb_: the other is big enough we should try to fix it ASAP |
| 11:43:14 | pb_ | put it in bugzilla anyway, unless you plan to fix it right away. |
| 11:43:29 | mccarthy | pb_: I tried to put an update call in the set date routine (didnt work) |
| 11:45:02 | pb_ | yeah, it will need to break down the time and explicitly update all the labels. |
| 11:45:57 | mccarthy | pb_: but I thought a call to gtk_date_sel_show would do that since all the show_fields are there... |
| 11:46:08 | pb_ | mmm, actually, just emitting the "update" signal would probably do the trick. |
| 11:46:12 | pb_ | try that. |
| 11:46:30 | pb_ | oh, it's called "changed" not "update", sorry. |
| 11:46:48 | mccarthy | pb_: you mean "gtk_signal_emit (GTK_OBJECT (sel), my_signals[0]);"? |
| 11:46:53 | pb_ | yep. |
| 11:47:39 | mccarthy | oops. seg fault |
| 11:48:55 | pb_ | where does it crash? |
| 11:49:35 | mccarthy | pb_: looks like it gets itself into a look with the signal emit.... |
| 11:50:31 | pb_ | hmm, that's unfortunate. |
| 11:52:23 | mccarthy | where is this "update" routine? (gtk_signal_connect (GTK_OBJECT (sel), "changed", update, e->text); |
| 11:52:23 | mccarthy | update (sel, e->text);) |
| 11:52:53 | pb_ | it's year_update, month_update, week_update or day_update. |
| 11:53:50 | mccarthy | I am confused by how that is coded.... hmmmm... where is it *defined* to be one of those? |
| 11:58:18 | pb_ | It's passed in from gtk_date_sel_init. |
| 12:01:47 | mccarthy | pb_: stupid fix, but I made a "clone" of the changed signal called "updated" and emitted *that* when you change date and it works fine |
| 12:02:05 | mccarthy | pb_: I guess the problem was that gpe-calendar emitted the changed signal itsef? |
| 12:02:34 | mccarthy | pb_: should I commit my stupid change or make gpe-calendar stop emitting the duplicate signal? |
| 12:03:00 | pb_ | Can you find out exactly what gpe-calendar is trying to do? |
| 12:05:32 | mccarthy | pb_: ok. gpe-calendar connects to the "changed" signal, then it sets the time in the day_view_update (which is where I emitted *another* "changed" signal! |
| 12:07:28 | pb_ | Oh yes. I think day_view_update should not be doing that. |
| 12:08:08 | pb_ | Try making a new function that does the gtk_date_sel_set_time() and then calls day_view_update(), and point the update_hook to your new function instead. |
| 12:09:02 | mccarthy | pb_: but does day_view_update get called some other way (that it *needs* to tell gtkdatesel what the time is?) like when you double click the month view? |
| 12:10:37 | pb_ | All that stuff should go through the update_hook. |
| 12:12:50 | mccarthy | pb_: I still do not see how that avoids the problem of looping.... BTW< my stupid fix *does* work ;) |
| 12:14:16 | pb_ | mccarthy: the "changed" signal is caught inside day_view itself, via changed_callback(), and calls directly into day_view_update. If you take the call to gtk_date_sel_set_time out of day_view_update it will avoid the loop. |
| 12:14:50 | grib_ | hi gpe folks -- what's the status of GPE for intimate? anybody working on debianization? |
| 12:15:00 | pb_ | mccarthy: I'm sure your fix works, but you are fixing the wrong place - the bug is in gpe-calendar, not gtkdatesel. |
| 12:15:49 | pb_ | grib_: I did do some work on debian packages a while back, but haven't touched them in quite some time. If you or anybody else would like to pick them up, feel free. |
| 12:17:19 | grib_ | pb_: ok, thanks. seems like there should/could be a trivial '.ipk --> .deb' translator |
| 12:17:35 | mccarthy | pb_: I am still confused, changed_callback is called when "changed" occurs, it calls day_view_update, so there should *not* be a set_time call at all? or the set_time call should be associated with an update_hook_callback? |
| 12:17:41 | grib_ | pb_: or at least 'ipkg.deb' so that intimate users could install .ipks |
| 12:17:59 | pb_ | grib_: new-style ipks are identical in format to .deb anyway. We can easily start building the gpe packages that way if it would help you. |
| 12:18:33 | pb_ | mccarthy: the "changed" signal should never cause a set_time call; it should only happen when the time is being changed by some external agency. |
| 12:19:23 | grib_ | pb_: well, don't go to any special effort -- there are a lot of questions getting rolled up together. what I *really* want is a concrete solution for how to develop stuff for the ipaq. |
| 12:19:46 | grib_ | pb_: for a brief moment it looked like native compilation using intimate was the right thing to do. now I don't know. |
| 12:20:14 | pb_ | grib_: I suspect there is no right answer. I use a mixture of native compilation and cross compiling. |
| 12:20:37 | grib_ | what do you do for native comp? skiff cluster, portaskiff, ? |
| 12:20:55 | pb_ | grib_: I have a couple of desktop ARM machines. |
| 12:20:58 | grib_ | and have you built a full gtk-app cross env? |
| 12:21:16 | grib_ | ah, desktop ARM machines :) that does make things convenient :) |
| 12:21:44 | grib_ | it would really open up the development community if *somebody* would Fix |
| 12:21:44 | pb_ | grib_: No, I do all the gtk stuff natively. |
| 12:21:58 | grib_ | The Problem. |
| 12:22:47 | grib_ | seems like every developer has their own home cooked way of doing stuff. |
| 12:22:57 | pb_ | grib_: I suspect that cross-compiling in the presence of pkg-config is quite painful, though I've never actually tried it. |
| 12:23:27 | grib_ | ya, I like pkg-config but I wouldn't trust it outside a pretty narrow 'comfort zone' |
| 12:23:36 | grib_ | and cross compiling breaks a lot of rules :) |
| 12:24:42 | flypiper | pb_: just finished flashing bootgpe image again on 3800.. and there is a problem I forgot about.. app launcher disapears when you try to use it:( |
| 12:24:54 | mccarthy | pb_: ok. all better now... |
| 12:24:56 | grib_ | pb_: in any case, thanks for the info. I guess I'll try a little harder with "develop on intimate for familiar", since it seems to be most likely to work in the long run. |
| 12:25:32 | mccarthy | pb_: I can commit the changes... do you want to make new ipks? should I? |
| 12:27:20 | colin_werk | Going home, BBL. |
| 12:49:04 | pb_ | mccarthy: if you can easily make ipks, please do. |
| 12:54:52 | pb_ | flypiper: is that mmenu or appmgr? |
| 12:57:50 | pattieja | morning |
| 12:59:59 | NSCo | Does anyone here know, why apps will not show in the application list? |
| 13:00:12 | pattieja | grib_, pb_: speaking of developing on intimate, has anyone gotten the kernel to compile on intimate? I was having problems with even getting the 'make menuconfig' to work from a straight www.kernel.org kernel. Am I doing something wrong? (I haven't looked into how you're supposed to compile the kernel under an ARM environment at all) |
| 13:00:37 | pb_ | For arm, you can't use the kernel straight from kernel.org. You have to apply a variety of funky patches. |
| 13:00:59 | pattieja | hmm. I thought that would be some part of the reason. ok. thanks pb_ |
| 13:01:07 | pattieja | pb_: I suppose those patches are on HH? |
| 13:01:12 | pattieja | somewhere |
| 13:01:49 | pb_ | pattieja: I'm not sure. The first one you need is King's "-rmk" patchset; you can definitely get this from ftp.arm.linux.org.uk, and it might be on hh.org as well. |
| 13:02:06 | pb_ | pattieja: then you need the -hh patches, which are only available from handhelds.org. |
| 13:02:17 | pb_ | pattieja: It might be easier just to check out the whole tree from hh.org CVS. |
| 13:02:36 | pattieja | hmm. how big is that? you mean the kernel feed from CVS? |
| 13:03:03 | pb_ | yeah. |
| 13:03:56 | pb_ | I'm not sure how big it is - my tree is 200MB on disk, but that includes the object files. |
| 13:04:09 | pb_ | I guess the source is probably about 30-40% of that size. |
| 13:04:11 | pattieja | ok. I'll remember that. Not doing much (any actually) development on the iPAQ right now. But I definitely like being able to have 5 distros (OPIE, GPE, Familiar, intimate, etc.) on the iPAQ at once. |
| 13:04:31 | pattieja | pb_: ouch! I don't think I have that much room on the uDrive, even. |
| 13:04:47 | pattieja | I had only given intimate something like 500-600MB |
| 13:04:58 | pattieja | I suppose I could pare down some stuff. |
| 13:05:07 | pattieja | Like, I don't need KDE installed. :) |
| 13:05:13 | pb_ | Ha. |
| 13:05:39 | pb_ | Actually, thinking about it, the kernel source is probably a lot more than 40% of the total tree. I was forgetting that a huge amount of code in there isn't compiled on any given architecture. |
| 13:06:09 | pattieja | it's actually quite difficult to work with in such a small screen area, especially with the stylus actually acting as a left mouse click, so you end up dragging menu items around. |
| 13:06:20 | pattieja | pb_: yep |
| 13:07:28 | NSCo | Sorry for asking again, but does anyone have an idea of why installed applications may not show up on the applications list? |
| 13:08:20 | pb_ | What do you mean by the applications lsit? |
| 13:08:21 | pb_ | list? |
| 13:08:53 | NSCo | in the gpe application manager under x |
| 13:09:21 | pb_ | ok, and what programs specifically are not showing up? |
| 13:09:49 | NSCo | could you hold on just a second, sorry |
| 13:11:00 | NSCo | okay |
| 13:11:00 | mccarthy | pb_: do the control files not get updated in CVS? the version numbers are all wrong... |
| 13:11:29 | pb_ | mccarthy: I thought I updated them, but I might have forgotten. |
| 13:11:43 | pb_ | mccarthy: what version numbers do you have there? |
| 13:12:22 | cmarqu | pb_: gpe-nmf seems to have a problem switching from an mp3- to an ogg-file in the same playlist. I'll file a bug unless you tell me not to. |
| 13:12:28 | mccarthy | pb_: gpe-calendar was 10.1 but I already have 11 in my ipaq |
| 13:12:59 | pb_ | cmarqu: please do. |
| 13:13:17 | NSCo | lol, i restarted, and it magically works now |
| 13:13:21 | NSCo | thanks for you help though |
| 13:13:25 | pb_ | mccarthy: whoops. well, please make yours 0.12 |
| 13:13:37 | NSCo | ty! |
| 13:15:50 | mccarthy | pb_: should the new libgpewidget be 19? the changes were *really* minor.... (1 line in gtkdatesel) |
| 13:16:38 | pb_ | mccarthy: remind me what you changed in gtkdatesel again? |
| 13:16:59 | mccarthy | pb_: set_time emits a "changed" signal now |
| 13:17:02 | pb_ | oh yeah. |
| 13:17:09 | pb_ | yes, make that 0.19. |
| 13:20:39 | mccarthy | pb_: ipks tested and uploaded to unstable |
| 13:20:59 | pb_ | mccarthy: cool, thanks. |
| 13:47:25 | mallum | pb_: Is the any functionality |
| 13:47:28 | mallum | pb_: opps |
| 13:48:07 | mallum | pb_: does libc provide anything for serialising structs to disk ? dereferencing and all ? |
| 13:54:28 | mccarthy | later |
| 13:59:11 | pb_ | mallum: hmm, not that I know of. There's the XDR code, but I don't think it really does what you want. |
| 14:14:33 | jsmanrique | have you seen this feed: http://olimpo.homelinux.net/feeds/ ?? |
| 14:14:47 | jsmanrique | it has ports from gnome , bonobo.. |
| 14:20:09 | mallum | pb_: hmmmm |
| 14:54:09 | ade | did the problem with gpe-login coming out of sleeping get fixed/bugzilla number ? |
| 14:54:46 | pb_ | which problems were those? |
| 14:55:03 | pb_ | please do file a report in bugzilla if there isn't one already. |
| 14:56:07 | ade | when the ipaq sleeps.. it locks to gpe-login, when it comes out of sleep the ipaq freezes up and you have to reset it |
| 14:56:20 | mallum | pb_: can gpe-login ( IIRC ) ipkg drop the dep on gpe-appmgr ? |
| 14:56:32 | pb_ | mallum: yes, put that in bugzilla too. |
| 14:56:44 | pb_ | mallum: or just check in the change if you prefer. |
| 14:57:31 | mallum | pb_: I'll check in the change, if itys just a simple edit to the ipkg control file ? |
| 14:58:04 | pb_ | yep. |
| 14:58:27 | mallum | pb_: cool, doing it now |
| 14:59:47 | mallum | pb_: hmm I can only see deps for keylaunch ? |
| 15:00:29 | pb_ | mallum: maybe it wasn't gpe-login that had the problem, or maybe someone else fixed it already. |
| 15:00:42 | mallum | pb_: yah |
| 15:01:33 | pb_ | right, time to go home |
| 15:01:37 | pb_ | back later |
| 15:02:04 | mallum | yeah |
| 15:07:16 | jsmanrique | Hva anybody seen Pierre here today? |
| 15:07:26 | jsmanrique | Have anybody seen Pierre here today? |
| 15:07:31 | | Pierre was last seen on #gpe 17 hours, 44 minutes and 55 seconds ago, saying: ok. [Thu Aug 22 22:22:36 2002] |
| 15:07:31 | Burner23 | ibot seen Pierre |
| 15:07:50 | jsmanrique | ok |
| 15:08:17 | jsmanrique | I am so newbiee in irc.. I haven't used it for years, to know how some bots work |
| 15:09:42 | Burner23 | use ibot |
| 15:09:50 | Burner23 | play around with him |
| 15:30:23 | jsmanrique | what kind of things can ibot do? |
| 15:42:08 | Burner23 | alot :) try it |
| 15:42:11 | Burner23 | ibot: help |
| 15:49:08 | jsmanrique | ibot: help |
| 15:51:19 | jsmanrique | I see.. |
| 16:01:11 | mccarthy | damn, no pb |
| 16:01:21 | | pb_ was last seen on #gpe 59 minutes and 44 seconds ago, saying: back later [Fri Aug 23 16:01:37 2002] |
| 16:01:21 | mccarthy | ibot: seen pb_? |
| 16:01:31 | | dc_ was last seen on #gpe 2 days, 11 hours, 38 minutes and 22 seconds ago, saying: bbl [Wed Aug 21 05:23:09 2002] |
| 16:01:31 | mccarthy | ibot: seen dc_? |
| 16:01:47 | mccarthy | no potential calendar help here.... :( |
| 16:03:28 | Burner23 | OK I installed gpe from the start. |
| 16:03:53 | Burner23 | What packages do I need to make the pointer work in a good manner? |
| 16:05:23 | mccarthy | Burner23: what do you mean? |
| 16:06:03 | Burner23 | Thee |
| 16:06:10 | Burner23 | There is a mouse pointer. |
| 16:06:15 | mccarthy | yep |
| 16:06:22 | Burner23 | but I cant reach all points on the screen . |
| 16:06:25 | Burner23 | :) |
| 16:06:32 | mccarthy | you need to run xcalibrate |
| 16:06:36 | Burner23 | k |
| 16:06:46 | mccarthy | you can do this from the console while running x |
| 16:06:51 | mccarthy | but then you need to save it |
| 16:07:02 | mccarthy | or you could simply hit the record button at the gpe-login screen |
| 16:07:09 | mccarthy | (and it saves it for you) |
| 16:10:19 | Burner23 | k |
| 16:11:38 | Burner23 | mccarthy: can I turn the screen ?? |
| 16:12:38 | mccarthy | xrandr |
| 16:18:01 | Burner23 | mccarthy: I know I ask alot of questions, but how can i dim the light? |
| 19:26:11 | pb_ | what do we think of http://handhelds.org/scap/port.2327.png? |
| 19:27:56 | mallum | ok, I like the way you going with it |
| 19:28:09 | mallum | like the gnome2 gdm would be cooler though ;) |
| 19:31:45 | pb_ | what does that look like? Not sure if I have it installed. |
| 19:36:36 | mallum | http://www.lucidus.uklinux.net/index.php?themes=gdm |
| 19:36:46 | mallum | that should give you an idea |
| 19:40:26 | mallum | I could make xkbd have a transparent option too ;) |
| 19:47:58 | pb_ | ah yes, very nice. |
| 19:48:06 | pb_ | Transparent xkbd would rock. |
| 19:52:39 | mallum | yeah I can do it pretty easily now, as long as the window isn't moved / contents underneath dont move |
| 19:58:06 | mallum | pb_: I have a _very_ nice new matchbox theme |
| 19:58:13 | mallum | pb_: I've spent ages on it |
| 20:23:51 | pb_ | excellent! |
| 20:23:54 | pb_ | do you have a screenshot? |
