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| 11:15.26 | neoromantique | Hello |
| 11:49.58 | wethrin | Hi |
| 12:00.28 | morsing | wethrin! |
| 12:00.35 | morsing | wethrin: Trains are awesome! |
| 12:05.53 | wethrin | Hi morsing |
| 12:06.06 | wethrin | Trains are fine when they're not full of drunk people or hen parties |
| 12:08.44 | morsing | wethrin: That's why model trains are even more awesome! |
| 12:08.54 | wethrin | But they only go around in circles! |
| 12:09.04 | morsing | No!# |
| 12:09.30 | morsing | installed RocRail on his laptop |
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| 18:36.48 | *** topic/#gllug is Greater London LUG | Next Meet: TBA | http://www.gllug.org.uk |
| 18:55.33 | neoromantique | Hello |
| 18:55.45 | neoromantique | Anybody is familiar with how education/higher education is in UK? |
| 19:15.12 | Elleo | neoromantique: what sort of things do you want to know? |
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| 19:34.59 | neoromantique | Elleo, I currently have BTEC L2 in ICT diploma |
| 19:35.12 | neoromantique | and want somehow to get into HE, _while_ working full time |
| 19:35.22 | neoromantique | I can drop the job once I'm in uni |
| 19:35.40 | neoromantique | Are there any shortcuts, considering that I work in the field? |
| 19:36.39 | Elleo | neoromantique: it's probably worth contacting university admissions offices directly; I know at Aber we used to have a lot of flexibility for mature students with industry experience but who didn't necessarily have the normal qualification requirements |
| 19:38.24 | neoromantique | Elleo, Well, I don't qualify as mature probably, I'm 18, but I've spent last year since dropping out of the college working as sysadmin and developer in Different countries |
| 19:38.56 | neoromantique | Is it worth a shot to email admission office rather than walk in? (I'm not in UK currently) |
| 19:39.27 | Elleo | neoromantique: still probably worth contacting admissions offices directly, I don't think you'll have much luck going the UCAS route without an appropriate number of points |
| 19:39.37 | Elleo | neoromantique: yeah, they'll expect contact via email |
| 19:39.58 | Elleo | neoromantique: although if they're interested they'll probably want to invite you in for an interview eventually |
| 19:40.54 | Elleo | neoromantique: also it's worth looking at any unis that offer scholarship exams |
| 19:41.13 | Elleo | neoromantique: I got into Aberystwyth by doing their scholar ship exams, which provided an unconditional acceptance plus a bit of cash |
| 19:41.19 | Elleo | scholarship* |
| 19:41.25 | neoromantique | That sounds good |
| 19:41.43 | Elleo | yeah, especially since I didn't have very good A levels ;) |
| 19:42.06 | Elleo | it also has the advantage that you can often be examined in just a couple of relevant topics |
| 19:42.37 | neoromantique | Elleo, I don't have any A levels at this point |
| 19:42.59 | Elleo | neoromantique: yeah, but with a scholarship exam that offers unconditional acceptance that won't be an issue |
| 19:43.25 | neoromantique | Skills/work experience? Sure. But as far as education goes, absolutely horrible - High School Dropout -> College Dropout |
| 19:43.34 | Elleo | neoromantique: e.g. http://www.aber.ac.uk/en/scholarships-bursaries/scholarships/ |
| 19:43.46 | neoromantique | Elleo, That sounds amazing, I'll email few admission offices about that |
| 19:43.54 | Elleo | other universities probably have similar things, so worth googling around a bit too |
| 19:43.56 | neoromantique | I felt that it might be possible, but wasn't sure |
| 19:44.59 | neoromantique | Elleo, What's up with job market at Aberystwyth? |
| 19:45.06 | Elleo | yeah, I don't know if it's still true but back when I applied (~2003/2004) very few people actually applied by doing scholarship exams, so you didn't even have to do amazingly to get in, you just had to know about it |
| 19:45.06 | neoromantique | Looks like nice town |
| 19:45.28 | Elleo | neoromantique: yeah, for IT jobs there's only really two big employers, the university itself and the national library of wales |
| 19:45.52 | neoromantique | And I reckon none of them really wants a sysadmin/devops, so no-go, :C |
| 19:45.52 | Elleo | there used to be see3d as well, but I think they've shrunk a lot in the past few years |
| 19:47.01 | Elleo | neoromantique: both have a lot of sysadmin positions, but you might struggle to get a job with them, as the compsci courses offer an industrial year, where students go to work in industry for a year and anyone wanting to stay in town will be applying there |
| 19:47.43 | neoromantique | Elleo, still higher chances than getting a scholarship let's say in London or Manchester |
| 19:47.43 | Elleo | as well as competing with compsci graduates wanting to stay in town |
| 19:47.51 | Elleo | yeah, definitely |
| 19:48.32 | Elleo | after your first year there's also the chance to pick up part time work in the department as a demonstrator too, so helping out running lab sessions for lower years |
| 19:48.49 | Elleo | and there's quite a few lab sessions for the various sysadmin modules |
| 19:49.12 | Elleo | pay for doing that isn't great for undergrads though (iirc ~£7-8/hour) |
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