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| 09:39.28 | ChoHag | One of the manually-run jobs in the jenkins-as-a-job-controller which IBM call an automatic deployment system has a (all-caps) note warning us not to run the job as it will remove all of the changes made by hand to one of the management zone firewalls. |
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| 11:47.31 | ChoHag | Are there any portable devices yet which can be used without having to jailbreak them? |
| 11:48.02 | ess_tee_u | a tin of spanners? |
| 11:55.08 | Armand | Haha |
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| 13:45.32 | ChoHag | God damn programmers. |
| 13:45.34 | ChoHag | "How do you do foo?" |
| 13:45.36 | ChoHag | "Why would you want to do foo?" |
| 13:46.42 | Armand | function foo($foo_you) |
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| 14:12.34 | andy___ | hi ;) |
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| 14:56.16 | yaMatt | andyx, afternoon |
| 15:01.54 | andyx | so good to see someone alive here ;) |
| 15:01.58 | andyx | at least sometimes :) |
| 15:02.31 | andyx | everyone so busy ^_^ |
| 15:02.38 | wethrin | some of us are zombies |
| 15:03.27 | andyx | :) |
| 15:03.52 | andyx | its my 1st time here really, just checking whats going |
| 15:04.43 | Armand | bites wethrin's arm |
| 15:05.31 | yaMatt | ah, tends to be a bit quiet here these days |
| 15:07.24 | wethrin | ow |
| 15:07.34 | wethrin | Yes, specially compared to some years ago. People got old. |
| 15:08.03 | andyx | :D thats true |
| 15:08.17 | wethrin | I think that it's just Leeds and agk who've been on here longer than I have |
| 15:08.51 | yaMatt | Leeds doesn't even live in the country any more |
| 15:09.03 | wethrin | He's not lived in the UK for many years |
| 15:09.04 | Armand | I don't even live in London any more. :D |
| 15:09.16 | wethrin | I haven't lived near London for nearly 10 |
| 15:09.16 | Armand | But, Slough isn't exactly far. ;) |
| 15:09.27 | wethrin | Eh, Slough is perfectly commutable for Gllug |
| 15:09.43 | yaMatt | I'm not sure what Slough is like for commuting |
| 15:09.46 | andyx | and how many people you got on last meeting :) |
| 15:09.52 | yaMatt | heh, like 4 |
| 15:09.53 | andyx | and how many of them were completly drunk :P |
| 15:09.57 | andyx | like 4? :D |
| 15:09.58 | Armand | Train to Paddington. |
| 15:10.07 | wethrin | It's about 20-25 minutes to Paddington IIRC |
| 15:10.27 | yaMatt | well I've been busy setting up South London Makerspace but I think it's a little out of the way for most people |
| 15:10.32 | Armand | Depending.. Often closer to 45 mins |
| 15:10.36 | yaMatt | I intend to go to the pub for the next one |
| 15:11.02 | andyx | i would like to go and see, but i was late ;) |
| 15:11.21 | andyx | and im w14 |
| 15:11.30 | andyx | not bad, but other side :P |
| 15:11.32 | Leeds | I'll need a little more than a train to Paddington |
| 15:12.07 | Leeds | I will, on the other hand, be around London on or about September 19th/20th ish, if anyone fancies penciling in a drink :) |
| 15:13.46 | yaMatt | that is roughly when I'm in Singapore ;) |
| 15:14.39 | dick_turpin | yaMatt: Confess, you are in fact Leeds! |
| 15:15.27 | yaMatt | hahah, I wouldn't mind working in HK |
| 15:16.42 | Armand | I might do some job hunting in NJ, when I get there. |
| 15:18.21 | andyx | and whos responsible for this group now |
| 15:18.35 | yaMatt | I've been organising stuff lately |
| 15:18.58 | andyx | ok mr big boss :) |
| 15:19.03 | dick_turpin | points at yaMatt |
| 15:19.04 | andyx | thats what i thought when i saw topic |
| 15:19.19 | yaMatt | heheh |
| 15:20.15 | yaMatt | but my job has been going well, I've been setting up south london makerspace and dick_turpin distracts me for 2 hours every fortnight, I've not been finding much time to do stuff lately :( |
| 15:21.02 | yaMatt | dick_turpin, speaking of, there's been a good load of news in the last few days, I've just done a terrible job of collating it |
| 15:23.03 | Leeds | yaMatt: what are you doing in SG? |
| 15:23.23 | yaMatt | going to see gf family and then off to Bali for a few days |
| 15:23.26 | yaMatt | I turn 30 out there |
| 15:23.33 | Leeds | been there twice this year - it's one of the cheapest places to get to from HK, even if it is 4+ hours flight away |
| 15:23.59 | Leeds | I think we paid about 150 quid for the two of us, last time |
| 15:24.08 | yaMatt | unfortunately not enough time to hop over |
| 15:24.09 | Leeds | when I say "we", I mean "I" :) |
| 15:24.13 | yaMatt | heheh |
| 15:24.26 | yaMatt | I think we paid £90pp for Singapore to Bali |
| 15:24.33 | yaMatt | plus I think it was £20 for luggage |
| 15:24.44 | dick_turpin | yaMatt: Considering Sunday which I suspect should be good for you? |
| 15:25.10 | Leeds | yeah, Singapore has the cheap flight thing quite well sorted... one of the regional airlines has been trying for a couple of years now to get a license to operate out of HK, and they've been massively blocked by the local incumbents |
| 15:25.45 | yaMatt | dick_turpin, I think that'll work |
| 15:26.06 | yaMatt | I think we're going AirAsia |
| 15:26.27 | dick_turpin | Pete hopes to go air ASDA some day |
| 15:26.35 | andyx | :D |
| 15:26.39 | Leeds | there's also Tiger, Jetstar and Scoot out of SG |
| 15:26.45 | andyx | or poundair |
| 15:26.57 | dick_turpin | Ahahahaha Poundair |
| 15:27.19 | Leeds | airasia are the big daddy in asia for cheap flights - they even ended up building their own terminal in KL because the airport authority was dragging their feet |
| 15:28.11 | yaMatt | doing better than malasian airlines then |
| 15:28.24 | Leeds | yeah, poor bastards |
| 15:28.27 | dick_turpin | Is that the one where the passengers was held to ransom to pay for fuel? |
| 15:28.37 | cbz | heh |
| 15:29.01 | Leeds | nah, that one was Indian |
| 15:29.06 | yaMatt | "we're over the pacific, turn out your pockets, £5000 gets us back home, £6000 gets us to our destination" |
| 15:29.13 | cbz | Leeds: also air france |
| 15:29.48 | Leeds | we flew on a Chinese local cheap airline, once... wouldn't do it again - apparently these guys had to get specific permission from the authorities in China to launch with a service level *below* what even the Chinese authorities considered minimal |
| 15:29.56 | cbz | heh |
| 15:30.17 | dick_turpin | wonders if he could start up "Honest Pete's Airlines" in time to fly yaMatt? |
| 15:30.55 | yaMatt | Leeds, hahah |
| 15:31.56 | yaMatt | dick_turpin, what does flying with Honest Pete get you? |
| 15:32.51 | Leeds | Scoot was fine - they're run by Singapore Air, who are pretty good... we've flown a few times recently on HK Express/HK Airlines (2 companies, same parent) who have been transitioning from a regional carrier to a low-cost one... went to Bali with them last year |
| 15:32.57 | dick_turpin | herpes for starters |
| 15:33.51 | dick_turpin | Also "Flying" is a bit ambitious tbh. |
| 15:34.40 | dick_turpin | You certainly have a seat on a plane and if there's enough paying passengers we may even include wings |
| 15:34.43 | Leeds | going to Okinawa with them in October, as well |
| 15:35.23 | Leeds | anyway, should anyone be around London September 20th or so, first round's on me - just watch me faint at London beer prices |
| 15:35.26 | yaMatt | Leeds, where did you go in Bali? |
| 15:36.15 | cbz | A friend of mine travelled in the back ends of russia a few years ago, and on one flight seats were indeed optional |
| 15:36.27 | cbz | As in - as the visiting dignitary, he had 'the seat' |
| 15:36.30 | Leeds | we stayed north of Nusa Dua at a *very* pleasant Novotel, mostly hung around that area, rented a van for one day for some touring |
| 15:37.02 | yaMatt | in the main city? |
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| 15:37.21 | yaMatt | cbz, sounds very military |
| 15:37.51 | yaMatt | Leeds, ah, I see, on that southern blob |
| 15:38.04 | cbz | yaMatt: more disorganised i think |
| 15:38.14 | Leeds | right, on the southern blob - as I believe it's technically known :) |
| 15:38.37 | yaMatt | heheh |
| 15:38.54 | yaMatt | we're staing on the eastern top blob |
| 15:39.09 | Leeds | we tend to stay at Accor hotels quite a lot - they have pretty good sales 2/3 times a year, which lets the budget stretch |
| 15:39.30 | yaMatt | ah, nice, we used airbnb and got a villa |
| 15:39.40 | cbz | heh |
| 15:39.42 | Leeds | never used airbnb, slightly scared of it... |
| 15:39.45 | Armand | Has anyone here worked in NJ/NY ? |
| 15:39.53 | cbz | briefly |
| 15:39.58 | Armand | IT ? |
| 15:39.59 | yaMatt | Leeds, how comes? |
| 15:40.05 | cbz | Yeah |
| 15:40.15 | Armand | Doing what, specifically ? |
| 15:40.30 | Leeds | I generally aim at a budget of no more than GBP75ish per night for a hotel - which in Bali gets you a nice 4* resort, in Bangkok gets you a nice city hotel, in Singapore gets you... a cupboard with a bed in it... |
| 15:40.33 | cbz | Java programming, about 10+ years back. |
| 15:40.37 | cbz | WHy? |
| 15:41.06 | Leeds | yaMatt: I dunno - I quite like the privacy and anonymity of a hotel room |
| 15:41.14 | Armand | Ahh, that's no good.. I don't code. :P |
| 15:41.30 | Armand | Just wondering what the job market is like.. but 10 years is a bit much. |
| 15:42.13 | yaMatt | Leeds, heheh |
| 15:42.15 | cbz | :) |
| 15:42.32 | yaMatt | I think our villa was about £50pn and had a maid |
| 15:42.33 | cbz | I'm a bad person to ask anyway, I didn't like america. |
| 15:42.39 | Armand | lol |
| 15:42.51 | Armand | I love being there, but it may just be the company. :P |
| 15:43.44 | Leeds | we do travel quite a lot - been to 6 countries this year, not including UK and Spain where I stayed in family places, or China and Switzerland where we didn't stay overnight... |
| 15:43.46 | cbz | I think the working practices were crazy, half my coworkers were mad nutballs, and getting decent food was hard (raw materials rather than ready cooked) |
| 15:44.03 | Armand | Where was that then? |
| 15:44.04 | cbz | i only put up with it because of then missus |
| 15:44.39 | cbz | upstate newyork. |
| 15:44.46 | Armand | Hummm |
| 15:44.54 | Armand | I've not spent much time there. |
| 15:44.57 | Leeds | this will be the 4th year in a row that we've been to Japan, which is an excellent place to travel - I've got a couple of trips to the UK this year to see the family, without the gf, but the gf is going to Japan in September with friends and again in October with me |
| 15:44.59 | Armand | Food was easy in NJ. |
| 15:45.48 | cbz | Yeah restaurant food was good, but if you didn't want to go out the supermarkets were pretty terrible (in my admittedly jaundiced opinion) |
| 15:46.07 | cbz | Where are you planning to move to Armand? |
| 15:46.14 | cbz | and what do you do? sysadmin stuff? |
| 15:46.18 | Armand | Looking around Newark |
| 15:46.24 | Armand | Yes, SysAdmin |
| 15:47.26 | cbz | The biggest market for that sort of stuff seemed to be the finance houses in NYC itself - don't know how newark is for smaller companies |
| 15:47.58 | Armand | I'm hoping the company will set up another office there. |
| 15:48.03 | cbz | Ah |
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| 15:48.16 | cbz | well that will take care of there being/not being a market there i suppose :) |
| 15:48.31 | Armand | We have one in Sofia, Bulgaria. :P |
| 15:59.47 | andyx | would any experienced sysadmin like to view my cv and give me some advice? |
| 15:59.56 | andyx | :P |
| 16:03.14 | andyx | no1? :< |
| 16:03.27 | wethrin | Put lots of keywords on it |
| 16:05.52 | andyx | but it cannot contain only keywords :P |
| 16:06.18 | andyx | im not that good into writing poems |
| 16:06.38 | wethrin | Work history is good. Quick points about the key things you were responsible for |
| 16:09.11 | andyx | would you like to have a look? |
| 16:09.21 | andyx | :P |
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