IRC log for #gllug on 20140724

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11:26.05dick_turpinmorsing: Have you ever tossed off the odd Caber?
11:27.39*** join/#gllug Armand|Work (~martin@185.24.99.51)
16:02.41*** join/#gllug neoromantique (~david@unaffiliated/neoromantique)
16:02.44neoromantiqueArmand: Hi
16:02.52neoromantiqueMe right now: https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t1.0-9/10556492_1482527031988083_3390152633018638808_n.jpg
16:03.09ArmandClean that screen!! :P
16:03.17ArmandHow was your interview?
16:03.54neoromantiqueArmand: Great
16:04.04neoromantiqueThey've asked some technical questions
16:04.06neoromantiquelike
16:04.37neoromantiquewhat's load average, what impact does empty programm in forever loop on it
16:04.39neoromantiquestuff like that
16:04.43neoromantiqueAbout my bg & stuff
16:04.45neoromantiquebut sadly
16:05.01neoromantiqueI have to answer more questions over email(there require writing as they're situations)
16:05.08neoromantiqueand come to second interview next week :(
16:05.15neoromantiqueWay to tease
16:05.20ArmandYou're going into dev ?
16:05.24neoromantiqueArmand: Sysadmin!
16:05.57neoromantiqueBut it was more of, you know, what is load average, and threads vs tasks vs processes
16:06.02neoromantiqueI did quite well, I feel
16:06.12neoromantiqueEven pieces I didn't quite know
16:06.20neoromantiqueI speculated openly, and I was fairly close
16:06.44neoromantiqueAka, when I left it wasn't like "answer questions and we may see you next week"
16:06.50neoromantiquebut extremely friendly "see you next week"
16:07.06neoromantiqueaka, knowledge is enough for the role, so I feel great now
16:07.11neoromantiquemy knowledge*
16:07.24neoromantiqueIf I pass second interview - job is mine
16:07.45ArmandShiiiitt.. I don't even know that. :P
16:07.49neoromantiqueAsked me if I'm okay with relocating and stuff like that ;p
16:08.01neoromantiqueArmand: I knew "somewhat"
16:08.10ArmandI get the general idea, sure.
16:08.14neoromantiqueLike, I knew what load average was, but not details
16:08.17neoromantiqueand they asked for details
16:08.21Armand'ps aux' and whatnot. :P
16:08.22neoromantiqueso I told 'em I don't know and speculated
16:08.24neoromantiquelol
16:08.54ArmandSometimes it's better to be a little wrong, at least be in the right area. :P
16:09.28neoromantiqueArmand: ps aux | tail -n 5 | grep -i "$2" | kill -9
16:09.30neoromantique;p
16:09.40ArmandAs soon as you say "It's a misalignment in the flux capacitor", you know you've dropped the ball. :P
16:09.42neoromantiquealthough Idk how to sort ps aux
16:10.02neoromantiqueArmand: I couldn't pronounce that
16:10.03neoromantiqueAlso
16:10.09neoromantiqueWhat _really_ played into my favour
16:10.14Armandlol
16:10.28*** part/#gllug dick_turpin (~peter@host217-34-163-30.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
16:10.42neoromantiqueThis guys is going like -> "When I just started with nginx, most documentation was in Russian, and I had no idea what I'm doing"
16:10.52neoromantiqueAnd I go like, I'm fluent in Russian, including technical docs
16:10.54neoromantique:D
16:11.10ArmandHaha
16:11.11neoromantique*he mentioned it before I told him I speak Russian
16:11.21neoromantiqueWe were speaking about http/apache^nginx
16:11.31neoromantiqueSo yeah
16:11.47neoromantiqueTrain is at 9
16:11.59neoromantiqueand I'm sitting in McDonald's with free WiFi
16:12.08neoromantiqueThere's free WiFi in town centre in York
16:12.11neoromantiquelike whole thing
16:12.25neoromantiqueIt's pretty decent too
16:12.45neoromantiqueLike, only 1mbit
16:12.47neoromantiquebut 13 ms ping
16:13.00neoromantiqueso it's hard limit per user, so it's stable
16:13.19ArmandI want to troll free wifi points. :P
16:13.35neoromantiqueNow I have to write what I'd do in scenarios like: User will get Ad in the TV in few hours
16:13.52neoromantiqueServer she hosts on is old Cyrix, which we have no idea how is working at all
16:14.12neoromantiqueWhat would you steps to assure user that website will stand & your steps to optimize server
16:14.29neoromantiqueand one interesting one: What is your favourite text editor/why
16:14.36neoromantiqueI'll score bonus points with this one
16:14.38neoromantiqueas It's Vim.
16:14.43neoromantiqueand Why? Because Vim.
16:17.24neoromantiqueArmand: Would you mind to proofread the thing afterwards though?
16:18.56ArmandSure thing
16:20.04Armandnano -w neoro-dissert
16:20.07Armand:P
16:23.50neoromantiqueArmand: meh
16:23.54neoromantiquevim questions
16:24.14neoromantiquehttps://github.com/Neoromantique/dotfiles/blob/master/.vimrc
16:24.18neoromantiquehere is my magnificent config
16:24.21neoromantiqueI'm so proud of it
16:25.13neoromantiqueLang dependent settings were stolen from online tho
16:25.16neoromantiquebut whoo carees :D
16:26.27ArmandI know a few of my colleagues use VIM, but I have little care.. I use nano/gedit as they do the job.
16:27.22neoromantiqueWell, yeah
16:27.25neoromantiquething with vim is
16:27.31neoromantiqueonce you get hang of it
16:27.35neoromantiqueit's same as nano/gedit
16:27.40neoromantiquebut after you get -really- good at it
16:27.42neoromantiqueyou're jedai
16:27.45neoromantiqueJedi
16:27.47neoromantique*
16:27.54ArmandSo, it won't offer me anything useful beyond editing text ?
16:28.04neoromantiqueArmand: If you don't need i tto, then no
16:28.08ArmandCoz.. I just need shit *done* lol
16:28.10neoromantiqueI use feautures like tag editing
16:28.28neoromantiqueLike if I edit html, I can strip tags, edit contents, edit style="" and stuff like that
16:28.31neoromantiqueall with hotkeys
16:28.52neoromantique"Versatile in its configuration"
16:28.53neoromantiqueis that a thing?
16:29.06neoromantiquelike, do I use "versatile" as I'm supposed to use it?
16:29.14ArmandSeems right
16:30.07neoromantiqueArmand: HOLY CRAP
16:30.09neoromantiquehttps://github.com/Microsoft/
16:30.18neoromantiqueMicrosoft has changed as a company and is becoming more open in the way that we collaborate with others.
16:30.20neoromantique...on github
16:30.29neoromantiqueDid they drop their VS VCS?
16:32.41ArmandHuuuuwwhhhhaaaaa !??!
16:33.15neoromantiqueIs it what I think it is?
16:33.23ArmandSeems so
16:34.30neoromantiqueWindows is dead, windows is dead, tell all your friends, windows is dead
16:34.48ArmandWin 9 = Linux kernel ? :P
16:34.54neoromantiqueOne can dream
16:35.09neoromantiqueI'm mostly happy about drop of ntfs in such case
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17:11.11neoromantiqueInternet timed out
17:11.13neoromantiqueand
17:11.15neoromantiqueI'm done ^^
17:11.34ArmandHerp
17:13.14neoromantiquehttps://defuse.ca/b/uSGinSLsYyCaVfJUiRe9cD
21:14.48toxboi`happy sysadmin day to all :)
21:14.56ChoHagWrong timezone.
21:15.29toxboi`doh
21:16.05toxboi`I thought it was today.
21:16.25toxboi`ChoHag: hows the new job going?
21:17.09ChoHagWorking for the government is the most demoralising thing I have ever done.
21:17.45ChoHagThe waste is astounding.
21:18.15ChoHagAnd the 'automatic environment deployment system' is switching vsphere for vim and driving it with jenkins.
21:18.28ChoHagor $EDITOR of your choice.
21:19.18toxboi`that sounds a bit.. overkill.
21:19.36toxboi`why will you switch vsphere for vim?
21:20.02toxboi`ah nvm, just read you mentioned government.
21:20.25ChoHagThey basically replaced clicking around vsphere per-vm with typing a mammoth chunk of xml and firing a cli vmware client with jenkins.
21:20.38toxboi`lol
21:20.59ChoHagIt's still all defined and provisioned entirely by hand.
21:21.03toxboi`and my team thought I was nuts when I proposed using vmware perl sdk for automation.
21:21.26ChoHagReminds me of paperless offices dealing in scans of paper.
21:21.48toxboi`everyone gave me a stare like I've asked for their left kidney.
21:22.15toxboi`I guess it's not limited to government organisations. It's all about who manages these department.
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