| 06:05.26 | *** join/#gllug Armand (~martin@185.24.99.51) |
| 06:16.05 | morsing | Armand! |
| 06:16.50 | Armand | morsing.. |
| 08:54.20 | *** join/#gllug chrisp (~wibble@host86-156-28-224.range86-156.btcentralplus.com) |
| 09:02.38 | morsing | chrisp! |
| 09:33.32 | *** join/#gllug w1bble (~Jamie@unaffiliated/w1bble) |
| 09:48.10 | ChoHag | How do I raid 16 136GB discs to run a ~ 10GB mysql database? |
| 09:49.09 | ChoHag | All on one controller |
| 09:51.43 | gregj | :D |
| 09:51.47 | ChoHag | Also, how have dell managed to create an ssh server on which backspace doesn't work? |
| 09:51.53 | gregj | I think the problem lies in 'mysql' bit rather ;) |
| 09:52.01 | ChoHag | After 6 or 7 revisions, no less. |
| 09:52.22 | gregj | backspace doesn't work ? |
| 09:52.27 | gregj | wrong terminal setting ? |
| 09:52.34 | ChoHag | Tried with vt100 |
| 09:52.40 | ChoHag | If it doesn't work with vt100, it doesn't work. |
| 09:52.52 | ChoHag | Also, ctrl-d doesn't log out. |
| 09:53.45 | ChoHag | "Let there be an ssh server to appease the unix administrators, but let it be built on the most anti-unix, pro-windows principles. Because." |
| 09:54.18 | ChoHag | Them and HP alike. drac and ilo have somehow managed to break the usability of ssh. |
| 09:56.07 | ChoHag | On this version of drac, TERM=linux appears to be understood. |
| 09:56.16 | ChoHag | Because nobody uses X and terminal emulators, I suppose. |
| 11:08.40 | wethrin | TERM=xterm ? |
| 12:25.03 | *** join/#gllug dick_turpin (~peter@host217-34-163-30.in-addr.btopenworld.com) |
| 12:28.37 | ChoHag | Why is udev? |
| 12:28.58 | ChoHag | symlinks remain in /dev/vg after I lvremove the lv. |
| 12:29.20 | ChoHag | Dead symlinks pointing to dm-* devices which don't exist. |
| 12:36.09 | ChoHag | Hmm. Mailing list.... |
| 12:36.14 | ChoHag | Is LVM just really really buggy? |
| 12:36.40 | ChoHag | It's always given me occasional random glitches which have me scratching my head trying to work out what sort of code path could possibly produce those symptoms. |
| 12:37.14 | ChoHag | And in each case I've just used fewer of its features as I was too busy doing things to fix the fucking io layer. |
| 12:37.24 | ChoHag | Because good god it's 2014 and we have solved that fucking problem already. |
| 12:39.32 | wethrin | zfs? |
| 12:39.44 | ChoHag | Is fucking amazing. |
| 12:39.52 | wethrin | Yes. And works. |
| 12:40.05 | ChoHag | The last good thing to come from Sun, and the only one still extant. |
| 12:40.25 | ChoHag | And one of the main things pushing me off linux should I ever find the time. |
| 12:40.34 | ChoHag | shrugs |
| 12:40.54 | ChoHag | Oh well. Another thing not to fix because linux has wrapped itself up in so many layers of bullshit I have no idea where to report this. |
| 12:41.03 | wethrin | ZFS on Linux isn't too bad, really |
| 12:41.12 | ChoHag | Oh no, it's fantastic. |
| 12:41.25 | ChoHag | But not built in, and life is too short to deal with licensing bollocks. |
| 12:42.39 | ChoHag | If I could apt-get install zfs with only debian main in sources.list, I would consider zfs a possibility. |
| 12:42.57 | wethrin | Well yes. At least it's not a huge hassle to set up |
| 12:43.10 | ChoHag | But even if people do pull their heads out of their arses by the time that happens it will be a moot point because fuck Debian. |
| 12:43.26 | cbz | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:44.59 | ChoHag | But there's nothing to *do*. |
| 12:45.03 | ChoHag | It's just legalistic bullshit. |
| 12:45.05 | ChoHag | Fuck. That. |
| 12:45.43 | wethrin | I'm guessing you're not a fan of RMS? |
| 12:46.01 | ChoHag | I think he was one of the best things to happen tot he IT industry. |
| 12:46.51 | ChoHag | But then he got wrapped up in himself. |
| 12:51.16 | cbz | well - there is a porting effort |
| 12:51.20 | cbz | which isn't complete |
| 12:52.11 | wethrin | Whatever happened to btrfs? |
| 12:53.06 | morsing | wethrin: How's Toby? |
| 12:53.53 | wethrin | Still slowing down |
| 12:54.17 | wethrin | but coping |
| 12:54.38 | ChoHag | I think a combination of zfs and open sores happened to it. |
| 12:56.28 | ChoHag | http://www.viva64.com/media/images/content/b/0250_OpenSSL/image1.png |
| 13:18.09 | cbz | btrfs suffered from having big enough design flaws that it wasn't actually feasible to fix them without a big redesign |
| 13:18.14 | cbz | which will happen RSN |
| 13:19.52 | cbz | and it's still prone to spontaneously explode |
| 13:32.22 | ChoHag | I have a bunch of discs powered down with a btrfs filesystem on them. I ought to rescue the data while I still can.# |
| 13:48.42 | gregj | hmm, I thought btrfs was suppose to replace ext4 eventually, etc. |
| 13:53.13 | ChoHag | Probably. |
| 14:12.37 | ChoHag | I have too many discs. |
| 14:12.53 | ChoHag | I'm considering a 16-wide RAID 1. |
| 14:13.21 | ChoHag | Or maybe a 2x8 RAID 10. |
| 14:15.17 | wethrin | raidz2? |
| 14:15.40 | ChoHag | ZFS is not an option unfortunately. |
| 14:15.53 | ChoHag | Apple users need to be able to maintain this. |
| 14:16.06 | ChoHag | maintain and install. |
| 14:21.04 | ChoHag | What the fuck is wrong with a list of getty's in /etc/inittab? |
| 14:22.12 | ChoHag | No. Now I can't just uncomment a line, or add a single, simple command to a single, simple file. I have to do god knows what to the dozen or so files in /etc/init |
| 14:26.29 | wethrin | OS X used to have ZFS in it for a bit |
| 14:27.22 | ChoHag | 15:26 < Bahhumbug> It's effectively sysvinit as it's in compatibility mode. |
| 14:27.34 | ChoHag | 15:26 < ChoHag> I don't want effectively sysvinit. I want sysvinit. |
| 14:27.49 | ChoHag | 15:26 < Bahhumbug> You really don't have a choice. |
| 15:57.55 | *** part/#gllug dick_turpin (~peter@host217-34-163-30.in-addr.btopenworld.com) |
| 17:43.24 | ChoHag | In early 2011, the RIAA announced their intention to sue LimeWire, pursuing a statutory damages theory that claimed up to $72 trillion in damages - a sum greater than the current GDP of the entire global economy. |
| 23:27.33 | *** join/#gllug w1bbl3 (~Jamie@80-45-84-129.static.dsl.as9105.com) |
| 23:31.37 | *** join/#gllug Rollland (~alexander@pool-71-179-241-6.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net) |
