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| 11:26.51 | gregj | lol |
| 11:26.56 | gregj | "I am contacting a number of iOS contractors because I am looking for people to relocate to Cambodia to work with one of the world's leading apps development companies. They are a global company with offices throughout Europe and the US. Their Cambodia office has been running for some time but the original European who went out there to set I it up have chosen to return to their EU offices following several happy years there. |
| 11:27.02 | gregj | " |
| 11:27.30 | wethrin | Ha |
| 11:31.28 | gregj | hhe, still didn't get paid, so can't pay for house in belfast, nor I can't go ahead and rent something new in london |
| 11:31.43 | gregj | time to gather some carton boxes, and join people who sleep around victoria |
| 11:31.52 | gregj | on the plus side, at least I'll be close to the office |
| 11:51.00 | frangdlt | gregj: actually a colleague of mine has been living in cambodia for a couple of years now |
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| 11:51.26 | frangdlt | same concept of 'lets outsource ourselves to 3rd world countries and live like kings there" |
| 11:52.30 | frangdlt | his company was golden gecko iirc |
| 11:52.53 | dick_turpin | morsing: Have you ever been with a French person? |
| 11:56.48 | gregj | I simply cannot see a reason to move there |
| 12:02.49 | frangdlt | yeah, same as me |
| 12:03.20 | frangdlt | my friend was kind of thrilled with working in an international evironment |
| 12:03.29 | frangdlt | (he's a spaniard) |
| 12:03.42 | frangdlt | just a sin of youth, I guess |
| 12:05.00 | gregj | spanish people are different ;p |
| 12:06.58 | frangdlt | =) |
| 12:08.15 | frangdlt | well... given the excellent job opportunities today in Spain.... I'm rather surprised there's people still living there |
| 12:09.25 | gregj | there are jobs in spain, at least in IT |
| 12:09.43 | gregj | but they fucked themselves in similar way Irish did |
| 12:09.44 | gregj | so.. |
| 12:09.55 | gregj | but taxes are still hhigh |
| 12:10.09 | frangdlt | yep, I know, I suffer them :) |
| 12:10.51 | gregj | they are still wyay to high in the UK |
| 12:11.04 | gregj | but at least when you're self employed, you can work around some |
| 12:11.20 | gregj | so I end up earning more, but paying less tax |
| 12:11.31 | gregj | but what's the point |
| 12:11.40 | frangdlt | ahh... if that were true in spain... |
| 12:11.46 | gregj | everyone says, that its the 99% that suffer, bullshit |
| 12:11.54 | gregj | it's alwasy the fucking middle class |
| 12:12.10 | gregj | which is more like 70% not 99 |
| 12:12.14 | frangdlt | any freelance professional needs to pay like 250e pm just to stay in business |
| 12:12.17 | frangdlt | irrelevant if he has any customer or not |
| 12:12.29 | gregj | just like in poland... |
| 12:12.49 | gregj | you have to pay £200 NIE contribution there, regardless.. |
| 12:12.52 | gregj | every fucking month |
| 12:12.53 | gregj | mental |
| 12:13.02 | frangdlt | yep |
| 12:14.08 | gregj | but at least its worm, in many parts |
| 12:14.12 | gregj | so no heating bill |
| 12:15.27 | gregj | flat 15% tax for everyone should sort it |
| 12:15.45 | gregj | certainly wouldn't make things worse ;0) |
| 12:35.19 | Leeds | here, it's either a flat 15%ish - they tend to vary the rate year-by-year depending on the size of the government surplus - or a sliding scale from 2% to 18%ish... they work out both and charge you whichever is lower |
| 12:35.59 | Leeds | after basic allowances, my actual annual tax tends to work out at a bit lower than 1 month's income |
| 14:43.24 | morsing | dick_turpin: Hmm... No, not that I remember... I did have a date with one, though |
| 14:46.20 | dick_turpin | morsing: Did they turn up? |
| 14:53.38 | morsing | dick_turpin: Yes |
| 15:00.08 | gregj | Leeds: even after putting pretty much a lot on expenses, I will have to pay 2-3 months worth income as tax this year |
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