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| 10:08.39 | gregj | "Please reply to all address above, including this email, that your Limited Company are happy to Opt Out of the Conduct of Employment Agencies and Employment (EAA) Businesses Regulations 2003" is that even legal ? |
| 10:13.43 | wethrin | http://www.contractorcalculator.co.uk/conduct_of_employment_regulations_opt_in_opt_out.aspx |
| 10:14.27 | wethrin | <quote> |
| 10:14.29 | wethrin | Although technically highly skilled contractors not controlled by their clients should not be covered by the regulations, most agencies still request that their contractors formally opt out. |
| 10:14.33 | wethrin | </quote> |
| 10:14.44 | wethrin | So yes |
| 10:14.54 | gregj | yeah, I know it is a bs, every agency requires that |
| 10:15.19 | gregj | and I can't seem to get any contracts directly, every potential (iOS contracting, and C++ contracts) client deals with an agency |
| 10:15.43 | wethrin | It's less paperwork and effort for the client |
| 10:15.59 | wethrin | So I can see if they don't have enough time to deal with it themselves |
| 10:16.19 | gregj | question is, is that more work for me |
| 10:16.28 | gregj | potentially |
| 10:16.40 | gregj | also, they all asume I'm an ltd, which I'm not. |
| 10:16.42 | wethrin | Maybe. But you're the one who wants to be paid :) |
| 10:16.58 | gregj | yeah, I suppose it all boils down to that |
| 10:17.10 | gregj | some of them also want two referees and scan of my ID |
| 10:17.13 | gregj | why oh why... |
| 10:17.25 | gregj | my willy size would be next |
| 10:17.48 | gregj | "We are also required by law to obtain proof that you are eligible to work in this country, and you are capable of the providing the services to our clients, we therefore require names of two referees." |
| 10:18.22 | gregj | I think they missed the point on my CV where it says "british permanent resident" |
| 10:18.59 | gregj | and it's all ok if you have to do it once or twice, but because I got to talk to 10-20 agents before I get one solid contract, ... |
| 10:25.06 | morsing | wethrin! |
| 10:25.41 | gregj | wethrin: I picked up violins again, btw |
| 10:26.06 | gregj | wethrin: playing dreadfully after 20 years of break. But determined to learn again :-) |
| 10:26.17 | morsing | gregj: :) Youtube? |
| 10:26.23 | gregj | you joking |
| 10:26.35 | gregj | I will youtube myself only when ready |
| 10:26.46 | gregj | for now, it's twinkle twinkle little star, and that sort of thing |
| 10:27.21 | gregj | morsing: http://cl.ly/image/2k3d2h133E1C |
| 10:27.28 | gregj | that's as much as you'll see for a while ;) |
| 10:28.00 | morsing | I don't do .ly, sorry. :-/ |
| 10:28.04 | wethrin | hi morsing |
| 10:28.17 | wethrin | Play a real instrument :-p |
| 10:28.24 | wethrin | Also join an orchestra :) |
| 10:28.25 | morsing | wethrin: http://www.morsing.cc/photos/2013/Pixel_freedom.jpg |
| 10:28.55 | wethrin | yay cats |
| 10:29.24 | morsing | wethrin: We'd kept them in for two weeks... That's Pixel's first run in the garden:) |
| 10:29.40 | gregj | morsing: it's a cloud 'cl.ly' cloudy, <facepalm> |
| 10:29.52 | gregj | morsing: won't bite |
| 10:30.20 | gregj | go to http://my.cl.ly to see |
| 10:30.41 | morsing | gregj: I don't do cloud either - gives me a rash |
| 10:30.59 | gregj | |http://getcloudapp.com/download/ |
| 10:30.59 | gregj | |;] |
| 10:31.03 | gregj | that's what I'm using |
| 10:31.20 | gregj | better then dropbox, all I do is drag and drop, get a link - done |
| 10:31.35 | morsing | gregj: That's what I'm using: www.mythic-beasts.com |
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| 10:31.51 | wethrin | Dropbox is handy |
| 10:31.52 | morsing | chrisp! |
| 10:32.09 | gregj | I got plenty of servers, but it still is easier to drag and drop a phoot or something |
| 10:32.28 | gregj | got drop box too, but I got to do 50 moves to get a link |
| 10:33.00 | gregj | http://www.disclose.tv/news/CIA_admits_full_monitoring_of_Facebook_and_other_social_networks/90134 |
| 10:34.14 | morsing | Why not just set-up the same thing on your own server? |
| 10:34.25 | wethrin | Ah, we use it at work to share things |
| 10:34.36 | morsing | wethrin: Shudder |
| 10:35.01 | gregj | morsing: can't be arsed to do it :-) there's already a good solution out there , I just use it |
| 10:35.08 | wethrin | Why? It's handy. We're not actually putting any of the really confidential data on there |
| 10:35.19 | wethrin | I wouldn't trust it for that |
| 10:35.22 | gregj | wethrin: it's going to be months before anyone will allow me to play with an orchestra :-) |
| 10:35.38 | wethrin | We have a set of open-access orchestras up in the north east :) |
| 10:35.55 | gregj | mind you, these are electric violins |
| 10:36.13 | gregj | I needed something that I can play #notasloud for now |
| 10:36.25 | gregj | but they are plenty loud as it turns out anyway |
| 10:47.33 | morsing | gregj: How difficult is the finger work? |
| 10:47.46 | morsing | Could anyone learn basic violin, do you think? |
| 10:48.22 | gregj | of course anyone can |
| 10:48.25 | gregj | but its hard work |
| 10:48.46 | gregj | if you never played it, it would probably take you 2 weeks to play a simple tune 'almost' in tune |
| 10:48.52 | morsing | Do you eventually get into a "grove" about finger placement? |
| 10:48.55 | morsing | groove |
| 10:49.09 | gregj | repetition :-) |
| 10:49.12 | morsing | yeah |
| 10:49.15 | gregj | after a while, your fingers remember where to go |
| 10:49.27 | gregj | plus you hear that you're out of tune quickly and you adjust a bit |
| 10:49.58 | morsing | Hmm... Ebay violins aren't actually expensive |
| 10:50.01 | gregj | some say, that seasoned violinists do that without thinking about it, when the finger hits string |
| 10:50.03 | morsing | 60-70 |
| 10:50.25 | gregj | personally I always loved sound of violins |
| 10:50.27 | morsing | And do you quickly learn where to place your fingers for a certain note? |
| 10:50.33 | morsing | Violins are awesome |
| 10:50.37 | gregj | even tho I played guitar for years, I would still prefere violins over guitar |
| 10:50.50 | gregj | like I said, a start from zero is probably few weeks |
| 10:50.56 | gregj | of solid practice |
| 10:51.00 | morsing | My dad has one and I remember trying it as a young teenager and just making a DREADFUL sound :( |
| 10:51.02 | gregj | before you can play anything |
| 10:51.24 | gregj | cos it does, you have to bow properly, and then keep good sound with left hand fingers too |
| 10:51.30 | gregj | no one said it's easy :-) |
| 10:51.34 | morsing | :) |
| 10:53.28 | gregj | but once I get it right, I'm hooked |
| 10:53.43 | gregj | 4th day I have them Today, and I still can't get proper intonation |
| 10:53.51 | gregj | and mind you I did play in the past |
| 11:05.04 | gregj | http://fiverr.com/masterchief101/teach-you-how-to-land-the-plane-if-the-pilot-passes-out |
| 11:05.08 | gregj | lol |
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| 13:35.05 | morsing | Dick! |
| 13:42.53 | dick_turpin | Aha! You changed it you devious bugger |
| 13:50.25 | wethrin | It's same with any instrument, really - you get to learn where to place fingers/mouth for notes |
| 13:50.57 | gregj | http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/1989-07-11/ |
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