IRC log for #gllug on 20121002

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09:01.21ChoHagThere is something seriously wrong with a programmer who thinks EDITORzCHOICE is a suitable variable name.
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09:19.32toxboiChoHag: lol
09:33.59AndyMillarChoHag: it's too long, it should be aab
10:51.24ChoHagIf $builder->get_object($name) will 'get the object named $name', why does $builder->get_object('foo_widget')->get('name') return ""?
10:54.09ChoHagBecause even though a Widget IS_A Object, the Widget's 'name' property is not the same thing as 'an object named $name'
10:54.13ChoHagObviously.
10:58.34ChoHagAh! Of COURSE! How could it be otherwise?
10:58.55ChoHag"Objects must be given a name with the "id" attribute,"
11:09.29gregjhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+bug/1055766
11:09.31gregjwhat a noob
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11:58.53dick_turpinIt's only now that I regret not taking up a career on the Thames. :-(
13:10.26gregjhow hard is it to find linux admin job in london these days
13:11.41dick_turpinDepends how much money you want? I see at least three a day every day.
13:12.04dick_turpinAnd I'm in the Midlands!
13:25.48haliim sorry
13:27.33dick_turpinlol
14:19.30ChoHagI need popcorn.
14:19.42ChoHagThe devs here are trying to write an authentication system.
14:21.37ChoHagWhen I found out months ago I said they should use one that already exists, authentication being one of those things for which it's best to defer to people who know what the fuck they're doing. I suggested Kerberos as it provided all the functionality they wanted.
14:23.12ChoHagNow, months later, they have almost entirely reproduced the kerberos protocol, but without any of that pesky underlying security knowledge which makes Kerberos safe, but complicated.
14:24.39dick_turpinI think the term you are looking for is "Gifted amateurs"
14:24.54ChoHagNo. It's not.
14:24.56ChoHagToo many words.
14:25.26dick_turpinlol
14:25.43ChoHagActually they're the worst kind of amateurs.
14:25.51ChoHagThe kind who don't realise.
14:29.43ChoHagHoly fuck now they're excited about something which has reinvented the interactive debugging of the 1980s or so.
14:29.51ChoHagIT POINTS AN ARROW AT THE LINE OF CODE EXECUTING!
14:30.02ChoHagHOLY HELL BATMAN THAT'S AMAZING!
14:31.15dick_turpinAhahaha
14:41.40ChoHagOoooh. No.
14:41.44ChoHagThere's MORE.
14:42.18ChoHagYou know how in an interactive debugger, you can see the state of memory etc. with various commands?
14:42.44ChoHagWell, get this, it's FUCKING AMAZING. This app .... RUNS THOSE COMMANDS EVERY STEP AND DISPLAYS THE DATA!
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20:47.23morsingwethrin: Where's murb?
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