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| 09:34.11 | ChoHag | Could the vsphere client have been written in any more annoying a way? |
| 09:36.49 | ess_tee_u | Fortran 77 |
| 09:42.03 | yaMatt | VMware do an astounding job of creating 'good enough' software that is a complete shit to use |
| 09:54.02 | hali | the hypervisor itself is excellent |
| 09:54.17 | hali | the pre-5 client written in f*cking j# is rather shit |
| 09:54.40 | hali | on the other hand, the open source community do not have any decent alterantives... |
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| 10:10.51 | ChoHag | hali: I think I may have to beg to differ. |
| 10:11.40 | hali | ChoHag: on what point? that the hypervisor is excellent or that there are no good small/midscale free vm management |
| 10:11.44 | ChoHag | In one terminal, using pvmove to migrate from one virtual disc to another. In another terminal 'man pvmove' has been attempting to start for about 20 minutes so far. |
| 10:12.06 | ChoHag | That something between the tin and the OS isn't working as it should. |
| 10:12.20 | hali | isn't that more down to your poor disk controllers? |
| 10:12.21 | ChoHag | That the fault lies with our 'managed' 'service' provider is extremely high. |
| 10:12.45 | ChoHag | On a side note: Attenda are based in Slough and/or godawful. |
| 10:12.56 | ChoHag | [*] Delete as you fancy. They are the same. |
| 10:13.09 | ChoHag | Slough, Staines, one of those. |
| 10:15.01 | hali | cheap managed hosting services are always risky |
| 10:15.13 | hali | rather any cheap hosting of any kind is risky |
| 10:20.11 | ChoHag | s/hosting// |
| 10:20.19 | ChoHag | Or s/cheap// at your option. |
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| 12:40.57 | toxboi | What kind of router does BT Infinity uses? |
| 12:46.44 | toxboi | ok, it's VDSL2 |
| 12:54.27 | yaMatt | what kind of throughput do you get on Infinity? |
| 12:55.20 | w1bble | 30mb down 10-20Mb up |
| 12:55.24 | w1bble | or thereabouts |
| 12:55.47 | yaMatt | nice |
| 12:58.27 | w1bble | current speedtest shows 37Mb down, 7.5Mb up |
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| 13:09.49 | Leeds | *ahem* http://www.speedtest.net/result/2079320279.png |
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| 13:59.29 | w1bble | *yawn*, I used to manage a NOC for a large UK ISP, having 10Gb into the building made the rest of the world the bottleneck |
| 14:00.38 | hali | if you'rebased in central london getting dark fiber to your dc is pretty cheap |
| 14:01.00 | hali | from the office to the dc, just pipe out on a cheap connection at the dc |
| 14:01.22 | Leeds | but to home? |
| 14:14.30 | ChoHag | "This is one huge feature that I want in Chrome, as it just annoys the piss out of me when I click on a link and it goes to a new tab. If I want a new tab, I will middle click the link." |
| 14:14.34 | ChoHag | I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE! |
| 14:15.02 | ChoHag | Good god how hard a concept can "do what I say, no more and no less" be with regards to a machine designed to do EXACTLY THAT? |
| 14:17.49 | ChoHag | Woohoo! That's the 7th time Google search has linked to this same answerless question (on their own site). |
| 14:19.09 | ChoHag | So Chrome, like everything else, came out in a haze of brilliance and quickly descended into mediocrity eventually getting to the point where I'm finally fed up with it. |
| 14:19.16 | ChoHag | Given that, is anything better than Chrome yet? |
| 14:19.38 | ChoHag | To cut off the wrong answer before it's presented, Firefox isn't. |
| 14:19.51 | ChoHag | Whether you want a browser or somethine, indeed anything, else. |
| 15:05.41 | wethrin | No. All browsers suck |
| 15:05.48 | wethrin | Chrome just sucks very slightly less than everything else |
| 15:13.13 | yaMatt | it is very poor at being configurable though, I like a lot of it's defaults, but I can imagine if you didn't you're in for a tough time |
| 15:20.37 | mindbndr | do people still use web browsers? |
| 15:22.37 | wethrin | Is there anyone who doesn't? |
| 15:23.44 | yaMatt | mindbndr, hasn't that fad blown over by now? |
| 15:24.43 | mindbndr | I stopped browsing the web years ago. |
| 15:25.04 | mindbndr | has got bookmarks from 4 years ago, all got invalidated. |
| 15:25.24 | resudaed | unfortunately half my working life is spent in front of a web broswer |
| 15:25.31 | mindbndr | I have realised there's a life out there! |
| 15:25.32 | resudaed | web app for this, web app for that |
| 15:25.45 | mindbndr | waters the plants |
| 15:26.00 | Leeds | so apparently we are going for typhoon warning number 9 - being the 4th highest warning, obviously, out of 5 |
| 15:26.12 | wethrin | 9 out of 5? |
| 15:26.29 | mindbndr | I'd call that excitement |
| 15:26.49 | mindbndr | living it like your last day, that's a life style for skyscraper window cleaners I thought today. |
| 15:27.04 | Leeds | the warnings go 1 (might be a typhoon somewhere nearby soon), 3 (typhoon close enough that it's going to get stormy, schools close), 8 (go home, now, businesses close, etc.), 9 (bugger, this is a real storm) and 10 (seriously, hide) |
| 15:27.21 | Leeds | there hasn't been a 10 since 1999, and there have only been 2 9s since I got here in 2005 |
| 15:27.37 | Leeds | we're at level 8 now, and people are reporting 9 coming imminently |
| 15:27.38 | mindbndr | Leeds: in HK? |
| 15:27.42 | Leeds | in HK |
| 15:28.13 | mindbndr | a candidate informed us his company is letting him go cos the company is moving to florida |
| 15:28.16 | mindbndr | I'd take that |
| 15:28.37 | mindbndr | then I thought about the typhoons and stuff |
| 15:28.42 | Leeds | oh, the 9 is up |
| 15:28.43 | mindbndr | still I'd take that. |
| 15:29.10 | Leeds | unfortunately, the observatory (local met office) website has melted, which means my Android weather alert app can't see the 9 yet |
| 15:30.23 | mindbndr | a web browser doesn't help in this instance |
| 15:30.25 | mindbndr | that's my point |
| 15:30.29 | mindbndr | you should go and have a look |
| 15:30.33 | mindbndr | yourself |
| 15:31.00 | Leeds | I can see, out of the window of my average-sized 27-storey building |
| 15:32.43 | mindbndr | at least, it's a typhoon so you know how it's gonna work out |
| 15:33.07 | mindbndr | for me, I've been checking the forecast constantly, still had no clue about the rain |
| 15:33.20 | mindbndr | one thing was certain tho to be fair, there wouldn't be any sun. |
| 15:46.07 | yaMatt | Olympic torch is just coming up to my flat |
| 16:16.42 | ChoHag | Make them tea. |
| 16:16.53 | ChoHag | Scold them for missing 4 PM. |
| 16:17.26 | ChoHag | If software was physical, not virtual, what would it look like? |
| 16:17.29 | ChoHag | Apart from ugly. |
| 16:23.47 | mindbndr | I believe there's more than one olympic torch |
| 16:23.56 | mindbndr | cos everyone says that it's coming to their flat |
| 16:24.18 | mindbndr | I haven't heard anyone claiming that he hasn't seen it or won't be seeing it |
| 16:24.23 | mindbndr | I think I'll feel special at the end. |
| 16:24.39 | mindbndr | ChoHag: I think It'd look like shit |
| 16:24.53 | mindbndr | ChoHag: remember this every time you go to toilet. |
| 16:25.06 | mindbndr | because it's unexpected |
| 16:25.14 | mindbndr | you know how it's gonna be the next time |
| 16:25.24 | mindbndr | *you don't know |
| 16:25.49 | ChoHag | I haven't seen the olympic torch. |
| 16:27.26 | ChoHag | "First of all, let’s be clear that there are some, though very few, good points about this song. At long last! Someone has successfully soundtracked the experience of living through a minor earthquake" |
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| 16:59.41 | Leeds | well, this is now officially the most serious storm Hong Kong has been hit by since 1999 |
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