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08:41.30 | cityLights | morning |
08:42.26 | yaMatt | morning cityLights |
08:42.59 | cityLights | you are relativly new here.. |
08:47.46 | yaMatt | I guess that's true |
08:48.49 | cityLights | so, what are you up to? |
08:49.07 | yaMatt | what do I do? |
08:52.21 | cityLights | in the general sense I mean.. |
08:52.42 | yaMatt | Python developer I guess |
08:54.35 | yaMatt | bbl, meeting |
09:17.02 | yaMatt | back |
09:27.58 | cityLights | well, I may soon ask your help |
09:32.27 | yaMatt | heheh, yeah? Got some Python problems? |
09:35.53 | cityLights | sure |
09:35.55 | cityLights | min |
09:45.36 | ChoHag | Have mobile carriers managed to come up with a good reason why they need to charge for 0800 numbers? |
09:46.02 | ChoHag | A good reason other than the real one that is, namely that they're cunts and they can. |
09:48.29 | yaMatt | heheh, I don't think they have |
09:48.49 | yaMatt | not only do they charge for 0800 numbers but they charge significantly more than a normal call |
09:49.30 | yaMatt | there are ways around it though |
10:26.50 | yaMatt | whoop de fucking do |
10:27.02 | yaMatt | now my phone number is on the GLLUG site I got my first weirdo phone call |
10:30.25 | AndyMillar | what did they want? |
10:43.44 | yaMatt | he was mumbling about some linux group, I wasn't too sure, I suggested he e-mailed |
10:44.41 | yaMatt | thought he might be a recruiter at first but I'm not sure now |
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11:57.05 | dick_turpin | Everyone loves chasing pidgins. |
12:24.41 | gregj | you don't expect geeks to talk sense on phone usually |
12:24.46 | gregj | rarely happens |
12:26.32 | yaMatt | it's a fair point, I did think if anyone actually needed that number they're probably an idiot |
13:40.03 | yaMatt | AndyMillar, still no word about the mailing list? |
13:46.54 | dick_turpin | I have it in my head it's some guy called Jason who controls it? There really should be a vote to have it hosted on http://lug.org.uk/ |
13:48.14 | yaMatt | yeah, great a vote and post it on the mailing list ;) |
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14:00.05 | AndyMillar | yaMatt: no, I'll chase again |
14:00.47 | yaMatt | create* |
14:00.48 | dick_turpin | What choice do you have? You cant just up and move it, starting your own fork is possible but seems silly to me, and you just know moron's will oppose it anyway. |
14:01.07 | yaMatt | exactly |
14:01.21 | dick_turpin | Thing is witha vote you may get an indication who might want to move to a more stable mailing list. |
14:01.32 | dick_turpin | with a |
14:02.30 | yaMatt | but how do we ask people with it down? and if it's up will people be bothered? |
14:10.22 | dick_turpin | That's your problem, in a sense. Personally I'd be tempted to see if you can get the mailing list membership and, to a certain extent. spam them with an explanation/open letter |
14:10.36 | dick_turpin | You know, "The mailing list is always down" |
14:10.54 | dick_turpin | "I intend to set one up/take ownership" |
14:11.08 | dick_turpin | "How about we move it?" |
14:11.18 | dick_turpin | Yadda yadda yadda |
14:11.53 | ChoHag | This is a radical idea, but could the mailing list perhaps be moved .... without changing the name? |
14:11.57 | ChoHag | Then nobody would know! |
14:12.06 | ChoHag | (Except that it might generally work) |
14:13.10 | dick_turpin | ChoHag: That's what I would prefer but you know as well as me that there are some right Fascists on there who will go ape shit for the sake of it. |
14:13.27 | ChoHag | Fuck them. |
14:13.41 | ChoHag | I used to care about geek fascism. Then I got a job. |
14:14.06 | dick_turpin | ChoHag: Ahahahaha You have no idea how true that statement is. |
14:14.09 | ChoHag | Fuck the lot of them and the abomination which is open sores they created. |
14:14.17 | ChoHag | Cunts all. |
14:16.03 | dick_turpin | ChoHag: There's no need to be reserved you are amongst friends here. |
14:20.34 | dick_turpin | I wonder if wethrin secretly has a members list for the mailing list? |
14:22.12 | ChoHag | If he runs the mailing list he does. |
14:22.16 | ChoHag | Except not so secret. |
14:23.37 | dick_turpin | ChoHag: I know he had access to the server (When it was up) as he was able a few times to check on mails I'd sent.# |
14:27.11 | yaMatt | could take a vote or at least get ideas about what to do with the mailing list at the drink up next week |
14:27.19 | yaMatt | should be a more even-handed mix |
14:28.26 | dick_turpin | yaMatt: Now I was also thinking of that as well, make them allies for your takeover bid. :-D |
14:28.36 | dick_turpin | It's Che yaMatt |
14:28.46 | yaMatt | mailing lists are quite a serious single point of failure when they're down aren't they? there is no backup, and there is no way to tell people how to start again and where |
14:29.25 | yaMatt | dick_turpin, something like that, though I don't fancy managing a mailing list |
14:29.27 | dick_turpin | I have 'some' addresses as I retain mails |
15:09.14 | ChoHag | I have lost my password because your bizarre password rules forced me to use a password I do not remember. Did I append a 1? Duplicate the first digit? Exclamation mark? Nobody knows. |
15:09.16 | ChoHag | Please have a new password sent to this address. The 'secure' password recovery options your site has jumped on the bandwagon of providing are nothing of the sort and, given that I use it even less, I don't remember that password either. Sorry did I say password? Your site calls it a "memorable word" and doesn't replace it with *'s, but it's a password all the same. |
15:09.21 | ChoHag | And besides, how do you know my mother even HAS a maiden name? |
15:09.45 | ChoHag | I hate Mondays. |
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