IRC log for #gllug on 20120528

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08:41.30cityLightsmorning
08:42.26yaMattmorning cityLights
08:42.59cityLightsyou are relativly new here..
08:47.46yaMattI guess that's true
08:48.49cityLightsso, what are you up to?
08:49.07yaMattwhat do I do?
08:52.21cityLightsin the general sense I mean..
08:52.42yaMattPython developer I guess
08:54.35yaMattbbl, meeting
09:17.02yaMattback
09:27.58cityLightswell, I may soon ask your help
09:32.27yaMattheheh, yeah? Got some Python problems?
09:35.53cityLightssure
09:35.55cityLightsmin
09:45.36ChoHagHave mobile carriers managed to come up with a good reason why they need to charge for 0800 numbers?
09:46.02ChoHagA good reason other than the real one that is, namely that they're cunts and they can.
09:48.29yaMattheheh, I don't think they have
09:48.49yaMattnot only do they charge for 0800 numbers but they charge significantly more than a normal call
09:49.30yaMattthere are ways around it though
10:26.50yaMattwhoop de fucking do
10:27.02yaMattnow my phone number is on the GLLUG site I got my first weirdo phone call
10:30.25AndyMillarwhat did they want?
10:43.44yaMatthe was mumbling about some linux group, I wasn't too sure, I suggested he e-mailed
10:44.41yaMattthought he might be a recruiter at first but I'm not sure now
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11:57.05dick_turpinEveryone loves chasing pidgins.
12:24.41gregjyou don't expect geeks to talk sense on phone usually
12:24.46gregjrarely happens
12:26.32yaMattit's a fair point, I did think if anyone actually needed that number they're probably an idiot
13:40.03yaMattAndyMillar, still no word about the mailing list?
13:46.54dick_turpinI have it in my head it's some guy called Jason who controls it? There really should be a vote to have it hosted on http://lug.org.uk/
13:48.14yaMattyeah, great a vote and post it on the mailing list ;)
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14:00.05AndyMillaryaMatt: no, I'll chase again
14:00.47yaMattcreate*
14:00.48dick_turpinWhat choice do you have? You cant just up and move it, starting your own fork is possible but seems silly to me, and you just know moron's will oppose it anyway.
14:01.07yaMattexactly
14:01.21dick_turpinThing is witha vote you may get an indication who might want to move to a more stable mailing list.
14:01.32dick_turpinwith a
14:02.30yaMattbut how do we ask people with it down? and if it's up will people be bothered?
14:10.22dick_turpinThat's your problem, in a sense. Personally I'd be tempted to see if you can get the mailing list membership and, to a certain extent. spam them with an explanation/open letter
14:10.36dick_turpinYou know, "The mailing list is always down"
14:10.54dick_turpin"I intend to set one up/take ownership"
14:11.08dick_turpin"How about we move it?"
14:11.18dick_turpinYadda yadda yadda
14:11.53ChoHagThis is a radical idea, but could the mailing list perhaps be moved .... without changing the name?
14:11.57ChoHagThen nobody would know!
14:12.06ChoHag(Except that it might generally work)
14:13.10dick_turpinChoHag: That's what I would prefer but you know as well as me that there are some right Fascists on there who will go ape shit for the sake of it.
14:13.27ChoHagFuck them.
14:13.41ChoHagI used to care about geek fascism. Then I got a job.
14:14.06dick_turpinChoHag: Ahahahaha You have no idea how true that statement is.
14:14.09ChoHagFuck the lot of them and the abomination which is open sores they created.
14:14.17ChoHagCunts all.
14:16.03dick_turpinChoHag: There's no need to be reserved you are amongst friends here.
14:20.34dick_turpinI wonder if wethrin secretly has a members list for the mailing list?
14:22.12ChoHagIf he runs the mailing list he does.
14:22.16ChoHagExcept not so secret.
14:23.37dick_turpinChoHag: I know he had access to the server (When it was up) as he was able a few times to check on mails I'd sent.#
14:27.11yaMattcould take a vote or at least get ideas about what to do with the mailing list at the drink up next week
14:27.19yaMattshould be a more even-handed mix
14:28.26dick_turpinyaMatt: Now I was also thinking of that as well, make them allies for your takeover bid. :-D
14:28.36dick_turpinIt's Che yaMatt
14:28.46yaMattmailing lists are quite a serious single point of failure when they're down aren't they? there is no backup, and there is no way to tell people how to start again and where
14:29.25yaMattdick_turpin, something like that, though I don't fancy managing a mailing list
14:29.27dick_turpinI have 'some' addresses as I retain mails
15:09.14ChoHagI have lost my password because your bizarre password rules forced me to use a password I do not remember. Did I append a 1? Duplicate the first digit? Exclamation mark? Nobody knows.
15:09.16ChoHagPlease have a new password sent to this address. The 'secure' password recovery options your site has jumped on the bandwagon of providing are nothing of the sort and, given that I use it even less, I don't remember that password either. Sorry did I say password? Your site calls it a "memorable word" and doesn't replace it with *'s, but it's a password all the same.
15:09.21ChoHagAnd besides, how do you know my mother even HAS a maiden name?
15:09.45ChoHagI hate Mondays.
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