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| 06:01.23 | ChoHag | Good morning from Helsinki. |
| 06:17.50 | PcSett | Good morning from London :) |
| 06:19.38 | Azundris | Perrrrrrkele! |
| 06:19.47 | Azundris | Helsinki?? |
| 06:19.48 | Azundris | oy |
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| 07:12.02 | morsing | sabinef72! |
| 07:12.13 | morsing | morning from Wales |
| 07:15.45 | sabinef72 | hi morsing |
| 07:15.49 | morsing | :) |
| 07:15.52 | sabinef72 | will you go to the wedding friday ? |
| 07:15.54 | morsing | How's JuliE? |
| 07:16.00 | morsing | sabinef72: They didn't invite me :( |
| 07:16.02 | sabinef72 | pretty good |
| 07:16.09 | sabinef72 | how is it possible !!!! |
| 07:16.56 | morsing | ? |
| 07:17.10 | sabinef72 | why they didn't invit you ? |
| 07:17.13 | morsing | I'm only linked to royals in Denmark |
| 07:17.14 | sabinef72 | you are a star :D |
| 07:17.17 | morsing | :) |
| 07:17.19 | morsing | Thanks :p |
| 07:17.58 | sabinef72 | and I don't know why my invitation didn't come too... |
| 07:18.15 | sabinef72 | maybe a problem at the post office :D |
| 07:20.55 | morsing | :) |
| 07:21.02 | morsing | Will you be watching it? |
| 07:21.22 | sabinef72 | perhaps a little bit |
| 07:21.29 | sabinef72 | just to watch the dress :D |
| 07:21.47 | morsing | lol! That's what all girls say :) |
| 07:27.55 | sabinef72 | funny |
| 07:28.09 | sabinef72 | and you ? will you go to see it in westminster ? |
| 07:29.59 | morsing | No - I won't even watch it on TV |
| 07:30.05 | morsing | Doesn't interest me |
| 07:51.24 | morsing | sabinef72: Where's bilarh? |
| 08:44.31 | Cope | lo |
| 08:45.44 | ChoHag | Can ubuntu be configured to run a script after a particular network is connected to? |
| 08:45.47 | morsing | Cope! |
| 09:01.55 | ChoHag | Ubuntu sucks arse. |
| 09:02.10 | ChoHag | Brand new installation. Evolution already crashed. |
| 09:26.15 | antiphase | That's its default behaviour |
| 09:34.23 | ChoHag | In another app, lack of proxy support bug reported in October. Still not fixed. |
| 09:34.59 | ChoHag | The status of the bug was helpfully changed to Confirmed in March, so that's progress...? |
| 10:00.27 | Cope | ubuntu is horri |
| 10:00.28 | Cope | d |
| 10:00.53 | Cope | i liked 8.04 |
| 10:01.51 | morsing | Problem is there isn't anything better around. All modern Linux distros are horrid |
| 10:02.33 | antiphase | I use 11.04 at home and it works OK for basic use. I'm sure when the new version surfaces with Unity it will be a complete abortion because people can't leave shit that's working alone |
| 10:02.38 | murb | I like debian. |
| 10:02.54 | murb | but then i don't run with te default spacefun desktop, yes i have the t-shirt :p |
| 10:03.06 | murb | (awesome as wm here.) |
| 10:03.18 | murb | but i don't go in for user friendly and screen candy. |
| 10:03.27 | antiphase | I haven't forgiven Debian for requiring me to recompile a kernel to support some moderately new hardware a year ago |
| 10:03.44 | antiphase | Fuck that shit. It's fine for servers but useless on the desktop |
| 10:04.08 | antiphase | I'm getting quite used to Faildora now |
| 10:04.16 | murb | antiphase: well I have it on my netbook, but i agree it can be a fun with newer hardware especially when you're a year from the last stable release. |
| 10:04.39 | antiphase | Only one year? how long was Lenny stable? |
| 10:07.06 | murb | maybe a year, but you have to really look at when it was frozen. |
| 10:07.12 | murb | it was based on a 2.6.24 kernel iirc. |
| 10:07.30 | murb | no 26 |
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| 10:56.39 | morsing | Leeds! |
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| 11:51.01 | dick_turpin | Nice touch them putting those trees in the church gives the corgies something to piss up |
| 11:54.10 | z00dax | nice |
| 11:54.23 | z00dax | so the spice girls and girls aloud are in the running for the london2012 opening |
| 11:54.45 | z00dax | dick_turpin: hope you get the tickets :) |
| 11:55.23 | murb | yawn. |
| 11:56.01 | dick_turpin | z00dax: For what? |
| 11:56.20 | z00dax | the olympics opening |
| 11:59.32 | dick_turpin | The Olympics? Oh god yeah I'm looking forward to the opening ceremony syncronised road sweepers, a demonstration of beer can tossing and that loopy cow Susan Boyle singing "Knees up muuver brown". |
| 12:07.52 | morsing | dick_turpin: Well, hope you don't get shot |
| 12:10.35 | dick_turpin | Its OK I fire blanks now |
| 12:15.25 | morsing | dick_turpin: The terrorists don't |
| 12:24.12 | dick_turpin | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:55.49 | morsing | gmarkall! |
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| 13:29.32 | morsing | gmarkall! |
| 13:33.02 | morsing | Beer |
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| 14:20.17 | morsing | PcSett! |
| 14:20.44 | PcSett | morsing: Hi :) |
| 14:21.03 | morsing | PcSett: Cawfy? |
| 14:21.29 | PcSett | morsing: Nah - char! |
| 14:21.33 | morsing | ? |
| 14:22.00 | PcSett | m orsing: comes of beign son ofg a cnhar-wallah |
| 14:22.14 | PcSett | See what i mean about my typing !!!! |
| 14:23.25 | PcSett | morsing: to be truthful, my dad was known as the "punkah wallah" because of his big ears. |
| 14:23.54 | morsing | ... |
| 14:24.13 | antiphase | Ellipsis! |
| 14:24.19 | antiphase | ⦠|
| 14:24.37 | PcSett | morsign: he was in the army of the Raj, back in the days of Kipling, etc/ |
| 14:25.17 | PcSett | i had an ellipsis once. It didn't come to anything. |
| 14:27.47 | PcSett | Just finished swapping monitors and stepping everything to the other end of my desk to allow for my new kit! And it all worked first time! |
| 14:28.39 | PcSett | Oooh, I think I'll have a lie down ... |
| 14:30.58 | PcSett | This Debian 6.1a is pretty rugged, I'm wondering whether to try it on the new kit - or the Suse I tried out the other day. Zzzzzzzz |
| 14:32.11 | hali | people still use suse? |
| 14:33.46 | morsing | People still use Windows? |
| 14:37.35 | morsing | axelS: Good nap? |
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| 14:47.40 | ChoHag | I use windows... |
| 14:48.20 | dick_turpin | antiphase: is that a new ice cream? |
| 14:48.38 | ChoHag | I tried OSX hosting a Linux VM, but OSX is a disgusing pile of rotten turd so I switched to Windows with Linux in a VM. |
| 14:48.52 | ChoHag | Now I can actually play games! |
| 14:49.17 | ChoHag | I don't know how to play most of them any more, it's been so long, and the most recent game I have is about 10 years old, but I can play them dammit! |
| 14:51.43 | gmarkall | morsing! |
| 14:52.38 | ChoHag | What is there to eat in Helsinki? |
| 14:52.48 | morsing | Cheese |
| 14:52.52 | morsing | Imported cheese |
| 14:53.36 | ChoHag | And penguin? |
| 14:57.03 | ChoHag | Nobody bothered to tell me that you need a pass to get out of this office as well as to get in. |
| 15:02.13 | morsing | Find a nice desk to sleep under |
| 15:02.36 | morsing | With a bit of luck your outgoing pass will arrive in a couple of weeks |
| 15:03.16 | boudiccas | or more if you're dependant on royal mail! :) |
| 15:04.13 | morsing | boudiccas: Do Royal Mail put letters through your back (front) dorr or your front (back) door? |
| 15:05.27 | boudiccas | hey morsing theres a chap in my KLUG who does disk recovery for a living and hes going to take a look at the disk for me, so maybe he'll be able to recover some if not all of the data. so there is hope, but thanks for trying |
| 15:05.53 | boudiccas | back front door :) |
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| 15:07.29 | morsing | boudiccas: Well, the disk ain't broken, unfortunately, and as you've installed over it it'll be difficult to recover |
| 15:07.33 | morsing | s___marcu! |
| 15:10.22 | boudiccas | morsing, he has succesfully recovered a drive with ntfs formatting with win 7 installed over it, so it sounds hopeful for me |
| 15:11.12 | boudiccas | and i'm glad that the disk isnt broken, as i still intend to use it, but learn to mount it before the backup and unmount it afterwards |
| 15:12.15 | morsing | Or even better, learn that tapes are designed for backups, disks aren't |
| 15:12.45 | boudiccas | i cant afford a tape drive, so i use what i can afford, an external hard drive |
| 15:13.36 | AndyMillar | isn't data recovery usually very expensive? |
| 15:13.59 | morsing | AndyMillar: As Sharon is a woman, she can offer services instead |
| 15:14.06 | morsing | (cleaning & cooking) |
| 15:14.26 | boudiccas | yes, but this chap is a member of my local LUG and is doing pre bono [i think thats the right latin tag, i.e.e for free] |
| 15:14.56 | boudiccas | ah yes, cooking, my very favourite occupation, plus you get to eat it afterwards :) |
| 15:16.35 | morsing | I still don't understand how you installed an OS over the USB disk without realising |
| 15:17.54 | boudiccas | me neither! |
| 15:18.22 | boudiccas | but i've learnt that next time i install an os, to disconnect the usb drive first |
| 15:18.51 | morsing | Ermmm... I'd still say that's the wrong approach. And I'm being serious |
| 15:18.58 | boudiccas | not that i plan on installing an os in the near future, i'm very happy with debain 6 |
| 15:19.08 | morsing | McBain 6? |
| 15:19.26 | boudiccas | morsing, what would you say, seriously, is ht eright approach then? |
| 15:19.55 | morsing | The right approach is to plan and understand what your doing |
| 15:20.02 | boudiccas | agreed |
| 15:26.28 | gmarkall | boudiccas: I have made (what sounds like) the same mistake - I installed XP onto a USB drive that was plugged into my computer which I used for storing my backups. Then I wiped the computer's hard drive afterwards (another mistake). |
| 15:27.50 | morsing | This is exactly why USB harddisks are a bad idea... If you rsync/scp/sftp you data away, you know it's somewhere else and you can't accidentally think it's a local drive |
| 15:28.58 | boudiccas | gmarkall, sounds similar, but i installed debian 6 to the hard drive and the co-instilled it to the usb drive, over the top of my backups! |
| 15:29.19 | boudiccas | *installed |
| 15:30.23 | boudiccas | sorry morsing i dont agree. usb hard drives are a good idea when used properly. like disconnecting before installing a new os, which i didnt do |
| 15:32.01 | gmarkall | boudiccas: Yeah, it is a bit different to my case. I managed to mess up as the internal and USB hard drives were both the same size. The controller in the computer was an AHCI one, which windows setup didn't detect. It did detect the USB one though. I saw one 160GB hard drive, and assumed it was the internal one. I didn't even know windows setup supported USB drives at the time. |
| 15:32.15 | boudiccas | but, i've learnt from my mistake, and aim to put proper procedures in place so that i dont install other stuff to it by mistake |
| 15:32.33 | boudiccas | ah right |
| 15:34.27 | boudiccas | gmarkall, but, we learn from our mistakes, even though they maybe costly for us. not just in terms of time but sometimes in terms of money |
| 15:36.07 | gmarkall | boudiccas: I'd like to think I've learnt from that. The things I lost were just low-value files like MP3s and videos, mostly. I'd have been more careful if I was working with someone else's data, or if the stuff on the drive meant more to me. |
| 15:36.12 | AndyMillar | boudiccas: you should consider backing up to "the cloud" |
| 15:36.28 | morsing | AndyMillar: LOL! I tried to convince her... |
| 15:36.40 | morsing | More than once |
| 15:37.37 | boudiccas | morsing, i've already spoken to Julia re a vps on her setup, and its in hand to get one for my backups. i'm now just waiting for her to set it up |
| 15:37.53 | morsing | Cool :thumbsup: |
| 15:38.05 | morsing | And I assume you mean Julie? |
| 15:38.16 | boudiccas | no, Julia is who she is |
| 15:38.18 | AndyMillar | morsing: it's what I do and it just about works :) |
| 15:38.27 | morsing | boudiccas: Ok, don't know who that is |
| 15:38.41 | morsing | AndyMillar: Same here - rsync pulling every night |
| 15:38.51 | boudiccas | morsing, you also know her as kitty or katje |
| 15:38.59 | morsing | Yeah - that's Julie |
| 15:41.09 | AndyMillar | morsing: I use duplicity - but same principal applies :) |
| 15:41.11 | antiphase | poesje |
| 15:41.12 | morsing | I should really go - 3 hour drive home. Why did they place Wales so far away... |
| 15:41.29 | boudiccas | to keep the English out :) |
| 15:41.43 | ChoHag | They did well there. |
| 15:41.47 | boudiccas | lol |
| 15:41.55 | morsing | boudiccas: Well, they've got the £5.70 toll for that |
| 15:42.18 | boudiccas | morsing, whats the toll for? |
| 15:42.40 | morsing | Keeping the english out - that's why it's one-way |
| 15:43.23 | boudiccas | what bridge is the toll used for? |
| 15:47.32 | antiphase | Probably for paying back some vast loan that was taken out to pay for the second severn crossing |
| 15:48.17 | ChoHag | Or the troll. |
| 15:49.05 | hali | trill is the futuer |
| 15:49.21 | boudiccas | trill is bird seed is it not? |
| 15:49.28 | antiphase | Bwark |
| 15:50.03 | hali | Transparent Interconnect of Lots of Links, the magic sauce networking companies are pedling at the moment |
| 15:59.22 | antiphase | Have they rebranded the Internet as a diverse connectivity medium? |
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