IRC log for #gllug on 20110322

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07:11.47Copemoin
07:23.11morsingCope!
07:23.23morsingHamzah!
07:23.26morsingAndyMillar!
07:28.21Azundris...
07:28.25AzundrisMy hound hath no nose?
07:29.31Leedshow doth it smell?
07:38.06AzundrisBy my troth, awful!!
07:39.12morsingBeer
07:43.12LeedsSir, your jest is most amusing!
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09:45.37morsingAzundris: Where's wethrin?
09:46.44wethrinBehind you!
09:46.53Azundrislol, and there you have it :)
09:46.57Azundris*5*
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10:53.53ChoHagDid you know that Squeeze got declared stable?
10:54.02ChoHagI hadn't heard. Happened on Saturday apparently.
10:54.12ChoHagI thought it was months off still.
10:54.18jpdsChoHag: Keep up.
10:54.19morsingWas before Saturday...
10:54.23morsing6th, IIRC?
10:54.50ChoHagHey I was on holiday.
10:55.10morsingAnd it might be "Stable", but the H67 PCI-X doesn't work
10:55.22morsing-> driver
10:55.49ChoHagDebian 6.0.1 was released March 19th, 2011
10:56.09ChoHagNo indication that I can see of why a point release was necessary after just 2 weeks.
10:58.28morsingHuh?
10:58.39morsingThat's not quite what you said...
10:58.47morsingSo there's an update?
10:58.52ChoHagSo it seems.
10:59.11morsingGood, as said, PCI-X bridge driver on Cougar is severely broken
11:01.55halidont buy bleeding edge hardware if you can't deal with it
11:02.04haliCore2Duo and it's chipsets work fine
11:02.12ChoHagQFT
11:03.18morsinghali: I didn't know it was bleeding edge. I'm not a PC geek, my Pentium II was getting a bit too fragile so I went on Amazon to buy a MB and processor that didn't cost too much
11:03.44morsingwethrin: '-police needed
11:04.01ChoHagDid you request compatibility information from the manufacturer?
11:04.12haliif you weren't a PC geek you would just go to the dell website and order an pre-assembled PC
11:04.26morsinghali: Was too expensive
11:04.27ChoHagQFT again.
11:05.54ChoHag"Buying a car is too expensive. I will just buy my own chassis and engine and I won't bother to check if it's petrol or diesel."
11:06.33Azundrisis so not looking forward to compat research when shopping time comes around again.
11:07.00morsingAzundris: I've heard core2Duo is stable
11:07.30AzundrisI'd think so, my current laptops have that.
11:23.03ChoHagCan you do a reverse ignore in IRC?
11:23.34ChoHagie. Send a regular (not private) message to everybody except the one dorky guy you don't want to go to lunch with?
11:24.46ChoHagSpeaking of lunch, is Cope around?
11:39.17AzundrisEven regular /ignore is completely useless.
11:39.40AzundrisIf the guy is a universally hated troll, you can kickban.
11:39.57Copeis
11:40.11CopeChoHag: hallo
11:40.20AzundrisIf the guy *isn't* universally hated, someone will answer him, and all your /ignore will give you is a fragmented conversation. :-/
11:40.46CopeChoHag: squeeze was stable in february
11:41.19ChoHagHe's universally acknowledged as being socially inept. Even for an engineer.
11:43.19ChoHagCope: Lunch?
11:43.23CopeChoHag: sure
11:44.09Azundriswhoa
11:44.32ChoHagWhere are you?
11:44.37ChoHagI'm at WC2N 4AZ.
11:44.51CopeChoHag: right by carnaby street
11:45.06ChoHagChinese, then?
11:45.10Copeyep
11:45.39Copemeet you at the corner of lisle street by the prince charles cinema
11:46.29Copenowish? or do you have stuff to finish
11:51.13ChoHagI have policy documents to read, so now sounds good.
11:51.35Copeok - see you in 10
11:52.30ChoHagMake it 15.
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12:32.41morsingdick_turpin: They've gone without us
12:33.17dick_turpinGood! I never liked em in the first place.
12:33.20morsing:)
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13:06.37morsingSo... next-unread-mailbox is broken in Mutt. Nice.
13:19.40ChoHaghas now met another Glluglet.
13:20.45ChoHagIncidentally, sorry I was so late.
13:21.36Copegrins
13:21.41Copemutt
13:21.49Copewow - that's blast from the past
13:22.19ChoHagWhat, mutt?
13:22.54Copeindeed
13:23.47morsingCope: Huh?
13:23.54morsingCope: So the replacement is...?
13:24.09morsingChoHag: Lunch tomorrow?
13:24.10ChoHagAll mail clients are shit.
13:24.23ChoHagis popular!
13:24.27morsingtelnet is an ok mail client
13:24.29Copemorsing: as ChoHag says....
13:24.32wethrinAll mail clients smell of poo and wee
13:24.48Copemorsing: i happen to use google's mail interface; it's not great, but it works
13:24.52morsingWhich is why everyone uses Facebook now
13:24.53ChoHagNow, poo and wee are chock full of useful nutrients.
13:25.01morsingCope: Erm... Through ssh?
13:25.18morsingAnd text based with key-bindings?
13:25.29Copethose aren't my requirements
13:25.39morsingAnd can it search through the body of 18.000 emails in less than 20 seconds?
13:25.42Copemy requirements are: send and receive email; search old emails
13:26.00morsingCope: What if you get a job at a company that blocks large webmail sites?
13:26.01Copemorsing: gosh yes... google's search is very very fast
13:26.22morsingOk, but it's not for me :)
13:26.24Copemorsing: i don't use gmail; I use google's web interface
13:26.33Copemail.atalanta-systems.com
13:26.33morsingNo idea what that is...
13:26.50ChoHagmorsing: Work somewhere else or set up a tunnel to your own proxy. Simples.
13:27.01morsingCope: LOL! Blocked by proxy - point proven
13:27.35ChoHagMy MUA is roundcube.
13:27.37ChoHagIt sucks.
13:27.44morsingChoHag: My tunnel brings me straight to the system where my mailbox is. Type 'mutt' and 2 secs later I have my 18k emails ready
13:27.54ChoHagIt used to be Gnus, but that hemorrhaged.
13:28.10ChoHagmorsing: Are you evangelising?
13:28.59morsingChoHag: No, but Cope's comment about the past was a bit silly
13:29.18CopeI wasn't dissing it
13:29.20ChoHagWell mutt is old.
13:29.29Copejust I haven't used it for years, and it's been around for ever
13:29.31ChoHagOld doesn't necessarily equal shit.
13:29.43ChoHagAlthough mutt is an MUA so in this case it does.
13:30.07morsingCope: It wasn't around when I started with email and used Elm, not was it around when I later changed to Pine
13:30.19morsings/not/nor/
13:30.31Copemorsing: ditto
13:30.49Copeelm was my first mail client
13:30.52morsing:)
13:30.54morsingyay!
13:31.09morsingElm + HP/UX - Does it get any better!
13:31.28Copeelm + Digital Unix iirc
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13:35.20ChoHagReese's peanut butter cookies are disgusting and moreish.
13:35.35ChoHagSorry, cups. Peanut butter cups.
13:35.42ChoHagCan't drink out of them though.
13:37.39Azundrisomg
13:37.48AzundrisChoHag: where'd you get them?
13:38.15Azundrismust can haz!
13:39.23ChoHaghttp://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Cybercandy+Covent+Garden
13:39.25ChoHag^^^ There
13:40.15Azundrissweet! thanks!
13:42.10ChoHagThey have lots of other stuff.
13:42.14ChoHagIncluding root beer.
13:42.18ChoHagMountain dew.
13:42.24ChoHagPretzel M&M's.
13:42.43ChoHagPeanut and strawberry (!) M&M's too, apparently.
13:43.26AzundrisI don't think I've had strawberry ones
13:43.39ChoHagI might try them one day.
13:43.54ChoHagBut they probably don't taste of strawberry.
13:44.12ChoHagThings that 'taste of strawberry' usually just taste of pink.
13:50.16ChoHag<CFC2> ever have one of those days where you want to code but you cant be bothered
13:50.19ChoHag<ryan[WIN]> those are called "weekdays"
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14:46.52boudiccasmorsing!
14:47.52morsingboudiccas!
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15:04.07morsingHamzah!
15:37.01ChoHagHow do you deal with a situation where a respected member of a team is actually the cancer that is killing the team?
15:40.34wethrincut it out
15:40.39wethrinor a good dose of radiation therapy
15:42.06boudiccasgive it chemotherapy ---- enough beer to make it agree to anything
15:42.11ChoHagYeah. Unfortunately he knows the systems fairly well, has been around for years and I'm a lowly contractor.
15:43.38morsingChoHag: Is his name Bruce?
15:43.49ChoHagNo.
15:43.56morsingOk, not the same guy then
15:44.03ChoHagI don't know anybody called Bruce. I'm not Australian.
15:44.20morsingHe was American
15:44.23wethrinI know someone called Bruce
15:44.28morsingFortunately far away
15:44.32AzundrisI wouldn't mess with an American Bruce.  It might be Batman!
15:44.42morsingwethrin: What happened to itsbruce?
15:44.47morsing~seen itsbruce
15:44.56iboti haven't seen 'itsbruce', morsing
15:44.56wethrinHe got too busy to IRC, probably
15:44.59morsing:(
15:45.14morsingHow long is ibot's memory?
15:54.05morsingibot how's your memory?
17:02.31sabinef72hi morsing
17:02.41morsingsabinef72: Hi :)
17:02.46morsingHow are you and Julie?
17:02.53sabinef72julie is ok
17:02.59morsingAnd you?
17:03.00sabinef72and you ?
17:03.06sabinef72arg next question !
17:03.08morsingI'm tired but good, thanks
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17:27.00morsinggmarkall!
17:27.37AzundrisThat sounds strangely like a function. gmarkall(), gunmarkall()
17:34.59gmarkallsegmentation fault
17:36.54Azundrisoy vey!
17:37.09Azundrisattaches gdb!
17:38.03morsingkill -9 %1
17:38.08gmarkalldies
17:38.09morsingdpkg -r libgmarkall
17:48.18gmarkallrequested operation requires superuser privilege
20:00.15kjsyo
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