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| 09:08.23 | ChoHag | Ack! Google have changed. |
| 09:12.19 | wethrin | how so? |
| 09:12.24 | wethrin | They have an election doodle |
| 09:12.27 | ChoHag | Have a look. |
| 09:12.44 | wethrin | I see they have a bit of scrolling news in their search results |
| 09:13.06 | ChoHag | There's a side thingy and some fancy css on the search term input and search button. |
| 09:13.24 | wethrin | not on google.co.uk ...... |
| 09:13.45 | wethrin | oh, hmm... |
| 09:13.48 | wethrin | it's not that much of a change |
| 09:13.55 | ChoHag | Hmm maybe it's only chrome. |
| 09:14.06 | ChoHag | It's the same old google in ff. |
| 09:14.42 | wethrin | well, the Search and I'm Feeling Lucky buttons are now hanging in the suggestions drop-down box |
| 09:14.50 | wethrin | But I'm sadly having to use Firefox here |
| 09:32.19 | morsing | Beer |
| 09:32.27 | morsing | wethrin: How come I'm on this channel? |
| 09:40.25 | ChoHag | Because you forgot that you love AIX? |
| 09:41.58 | wethrin | must be |
| 10:22.48 | cbz | heh |
| 10:40.40 | morsing | cbz: Where's Mohan? |
| 10:41.01 | cbz | Who? |
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| 10:42.47 | morsing | cbz: Charming - I'll tell him you said that |
| 10:42.53 | morsing | bilarh_: Where's Mohan? |
| 10:43.18 | cbz | I have no idea what you are on about, morsing. |
| 10:48.02 | morsing | cbz: Nice |
| 10:51.30 | wethrin | cbz: Don't worry about it |
| 10:54.17 | morsing | is coherent |
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| 11:13.04 | dick_turpin | Afternoon all |
| 11:15.31 | wethrin | 'ello dick_turpin |
| 11:16.34 | dick_turpin | wethrin: Hey have you voted yet? |
| 11:16.41 | wethrin | Not yet |
| 11:16.46 | wethrin | will do after work |
| 11:17.18 | wethrin | have you? |
| 11:18.11 | dick_turpin | Not yet the wife and I was going tonight but she sent a text saying she's been already |
| 11:18.29 | wethrin | ah |
| 11:20.34 | dick_turpin | Typical misses, if I had gone this morning it would have been "We never do anything together" tsk |
| 11:22.07 | ChoHag | Today, I have succeeded in getting absolutely bloody nowhere. |
| 11:23.09 | wethrin | dick_turpin: Don't worry - you can't win |
| 11:23.46 | ChoHag | I need to vote still. Don't know which way to go still. |
| 11:24.06 | ChoHag | Foo are rubbish locally but Bar should definitely not be running the country. |
| 11:24.22 | wethrin | Vote for who you think would give *you* the best representation |
| 11:24.31 | wethrin | You are supposed to vote for your MP |
| 11:25.06 | ChoHag | Well yes, except that his party would not do the country any good. |
| 11:25.33 | dick_turpin | wethrin: Did I mention that when I came home from OggCamp on Saturday and mentioned that it was on again Sunday the wife said "I was surprised you didn't stop another day" you can imagine what would have happened if I had stopped? |
| 11:26.07 | ChoHag | He represents me on bins and things, but not on energy and immigration. |
| 11:26.16 | wethrin | ChoHag: Assume that none of the parties would do the country any good |
| 11:26.39 | wethrin | I find I agree with some policies of each party; but not the whole lot from every one |
| 11:26.44 | ChoHag | Well yes. |
| 11:26.51 | wethrin | Bins are your council's problem, not your MP's |
| 11:26.53 | ChoHag | When I say 'good' I mean 'better than the rest'. |
| 11:27.50 | morsing | dick_turpin! |
| 11:27.59 | morsing | dick_turpin: *sigh* |
| 11:28.14 | wethrin | dick_turpin: You can't win! |
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| 11:29.12 | ChoHag | Oops. Were we not talking enough about AIX? |
| 11:29.29 | dick_turpin | I know, changing wives dosen't work either this one says some of the things the old one said like "Hang that up" :-( |
| 11:29.30 | ChoHag | Now we've lost morsing. Oh woe is us. |
| 11:29.41 | dick_turpin | Huzzah! |
| 11:31.45 | wethrin | bad people, the lot of you |
| 11:32.08 | dick_turpin | Huzzah! x2 |
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| 11:38.07 | ChoHag | Fun. This box has eth0 to eth8, and __tmp193966842, __tmp262673754 and __tmp2140059963. |
| 12:03.09 | jpds | ChoHag: Nice. |
| 12:04.38 | ChoHag | Seems like it might be quite common on shitos if /etc/sysconfig/whatever/ifcfg-* are incorrect. |
| 12:04.56 | ChoHag | Replaced them with correct versions and I have eth0 to 11 again. |
| 12:34.08 | hali | makes sense |
| 12:34.16 | hali | better than having randomly assign eth numbers |
| 12:34.28 | hali | you could use udev if you don't like specifying the mac in the ifcfg files |
| 12:35.34 | ChoHag | They're not randomly assigned. |
| 12:35.53 | ChoHag | They're assigned in order of module, then card, then device. |
| 12:36.22 | ChoHag | __tmp193966842, however, looks pretty random to me. |
| 12:37.19 | hali | it brings them online in the order presented by the bios |
| 12:38.13 | hali | per module obviously, as you have defined in /etc/modprobe.conf |
| 12:41.27 | ChoHag | Oh yes, shitrix. Everyone else in the world uses either grub or lilo, so why don't you use syslinux just to be different for no good fucking reason. |
| 12:41.48 | ChoHag | It's not like I have anything better to fill my head with than a million and one configuration file formats. |
| 12:42.11 | hali | you mean in addition to your anger management class? :) |
| 12:42.30 | ChoHag | Well there's not much time left after that. |
| 12:43.33 | hali | i run a few xenserver 5.5's and never had to fiddle around at all with the bootloader |
| 12:43.45 | ChoHag | 5? |
| 12:43.46 | ChoHag | Wow. |
| 12:43.53 | ChoHag | We're older than I suspected at 3.3. |
| 12:44.01 | hali | ancient |
| 12:44.14 | hali | isn't half the point of vm's to make it more flexible to upgrade etc? :) |
| 12:44.21 | hali | just xenmotion them off and upgrade the host |
| 12:44.45 | ChoHag | This is a new network. Nothing's on there yet. |
| 12:45.05 | ChoHag | Somebody chose to use an ancient version in a brand new environment. |
| 12:45.20 | hali | interesting |
| 12:46.35 | cpufreak | ChoHag: we're on Xen 5.5 here |
| 12:46.40 | ChoHag | Ah wait. No. It's shitrix living up to their name. |
| 12:46.54 | ChoHag | It's Xen 3.3, as used by shitrix xenserver 5.5. |
| 12:46.59 | ChoHag | Nothing could be confusing about that. |
| 12:47.25 | hali | as done by all commercial xen solutions, nothing odd about that |
| 12:47.38 | ChoHag | Nothing odd at all. |
| 12:47.43 | hali | oracle vm 1.1 uses xen 3.4 or wahtever it is |
| 12:48.20 | ChoHag | At least it means I only have to find the manual, not an ancient manual. |
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| 13:20.03 | ChoHag | "XenServer can make use of up to 6 NICs" |
| 13:20.05 | ChoHag | Why 6? |
| 13:20.24 | ChoHag | We only have 4, but what's so special about 6? |
| 13:28.06 | z00dax | whats a decent editor that has atleast some level of git awareness, |
| 13:28.09 | z00dax | not emacs and not vim |
| 13:28.37 | ChoHag | bash |
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| 13:53.53 | j0nr | hi all. I have been using lftp to mirror one dir to another machine as a backup. I want to start using rsync instead. doing some dry-run s with rsync, it seems like it wants to copy the whole dir again, rather than recognising most of whats in the dir is the same. any idea why? |
| 13:55.55 | boudiccas | j0nr, have you tried using rsnapshot for your backups, it handles thinsg in a sane way |
| 13:56.13 | j0nr | boudiccas: no, do you think it will not have this problem? |
| 13:56.43 | wethrin | Does it actually want to copy the whole dir? It has to scan the whole dir to see what differences there are in files |
| 13:56.45 | boudiccas | nope, no problemat all |
| 13:56.58 | cbz | try it with an -vv and -n |
| 13:57.16 | cbz | It might be worth trying to work out *why* it wants to copy all of that |
| 13:57.26 | wethrin | It probably doesn't |
| 13:57.38 | wethrin | But it still needs to do some comparison on the local and remote ends |
| 13:58.00 | cbz | usually checksums are enough for that |
| 13:58.09 | cbz | It's probably something silly |
| 13:58.55 | wethrin | rsync does more than checksumming |
| 13:59.01 | j0nr | well it produces a list and a total at the end |
| 13:59.21 | j0nr | the total is the total amount of data in the source, so i am not sure if that is what it wants to actually transfer |
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| 14:54.56 | j0nr | stat on 2 files either end show differences... could this be why? |
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| 14:56.37 | wethrin | depends how much difference there is |
| 15:02.27 | j0nr | wethrin: http://pastebin.com/Z4w10xjd |
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| 15:51.30 | cbz | The comparison is based on checksums over sliding windows |
| 15:51.37 | cbz | not a transfer and local compare |
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