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| 07:58.39 | mindbndr | morning |
| 08:06.21 | mindbndr | z00dax: hi, is there any development on centos updates/rss |
| 08:18.14 | hali | morning |
| 08:25.54 | Mohan | morning |
| 09:19.20 | z00dax | mindbndr: I just posted about that to the -devel list.. yes there is |
| 09:19.49 | z00dax | there is a test instance running now, If you can email me, I'll reply with a url you can look at - just dont make it public yet |
| 09:20.04 | z00dax | for full blown public release, will sync that with 5.5 ( so ~ 2 weeks ) |
| 09:29.41 | mindbndr | z00dax: thanks, so XML content might change? |
| 09:30.47 | z00dax | yeah |
| 09:31.12 | z00dax | it should have zero impact on existing clients that use yum |
| 09:31.31 | z00dax | but anyone doing anything else, will almost certainly find extra attribs and whatnot |
| 09:33.19 | mindbndr | by zero impact, do you mean it as in there is no benefit |
| 09:34.16 | z00dax | no, i mean it wont change anything that they are already doing |
| 09:34.18 | mindbndr | I sent an email to kbsingh@karan.org |
| 09:35.09 | mindbndr | z00dax: well afaik they only download the mail archive from the website, I guess I'm missing something here |
| 09:36.54 | z00dax | ok so the mail format will change completely |
| 09:37.12 | mindbndr | ah |
| 09:37.17 | z00dax | md5's + sha1's will be published by default, and every rpm will also have links to cve's and bz's they address |
| 09:37.25 | z00dax | along with the entire changed changelog since last release. |
| 09:37.51 | z00dax | erm, .. ok, i think you know what i mean by changed changelog |
| 09:38.23 | mindbndr | z00dax: how did spacewalk people respond to this ? |
| 09:38.51 | z00dax | I'm sorta hoping they dont use the mail's - and they use the json interface I am building |
| 09:38.59 | z00dax | the emails are generated from the same db |
| 09:39.15 | mindbndr | so they'll be implementing it to spacewalk? |
| 09:39.25 | z00dax | I dont know. |
| 09:39.28 | z00dax | but I hope so |
| 09:39.36 | z00dax | the two guys I spoke with both thought it would be a good idea |
| 09:39.59 | z00dax | but didnt say much more than that :) |
| 09:40.05 | mindbndr | yeah, considering that there's not much using spacewalk on fedora systems |
| 09:42.24 | mindbndr | I think the people who use mail digests will be quite happy about this as it was kinda dodgy to process the mail and distuingish the arc and centos versions along with other things. Will you keep referring the changes to redhat's knowledge base ? |
| 09:42.55 | mindbndr | (for the errata info) |
| 10:30.02 | z00dax | yea |
| 11:05.14 | mindbndr | z00dax: so have you got my email? :) |
| 11:05.34 | z00dax | I do yes, need to do some work to make that interface available on the interwebs |
| 11:05.42 | z00dax | at the moment, its a openvpn away |
| 11:05.51 | mindbndr | z00dax: thanks |
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| 11:17.33 | dick_turpin | Afternoon all |
| 11:21.20 | boudiccas | hide your valuables and lock up your daughters, its dick_turpin !!!!!!!!!! :)))))))))))))))))) |
| 11:21.39 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Giss a kiss :-) |
| 11:22.01 | boudiccas | a glaswegian kiss??? :) |
| 11:22.32 | boudiccas | aka nutting someone :) |
| 11:22.52 | dick_turpin | Na, but no tongues I'm still married :-) |
| 11:23.15 | dick_turpin | And I don't want to get pregnant |
| 11:23.28 | boudiccas | oh, tongues only in marriage! now theres a novel concept!!! |
| 11:23.37 | boudiccas | me neither :) |
| 11:24.16 | boudiccas | we'd better not share the same toilet seat then, as the second person to use it could get pregnant |
| 11:24.45 | dick_turpin | Yeah |
| 11:25.38 | boudiccas | i'm going to blacklead the toilet seat after i've used it just to help avoid pregnancies |
| 11:27.09 | dick_turpin | I believe standing in a bowl of custard is good protection too? |
| 11:28.04 | boudiccas | protection for who? protection for me if i stand in the custard??? |
| 11:29.51 | dick_turpin | Have you got a flying helmet? Oh wait, bugger I'm still married |
| 11:30.21 | boudiccas | nope, no flying helmet, but i do have my parachutists goggles somewhere |
| 11:30.28 | boudiccas | would they help? |
| 11:30.57 | dick_turpin | has gone giddy and cannot stand up for a while |
| 11:31.31 | boudiccas | why giddy? best to stay seated then till the moment passes |
| 11:31.47 | boudiccas | or until your blood sugar rises |
| 11:32.24 | dick_turpin | Its the blood loss ;-) |
| 11:32.45 | dick_turpin | Or movement, take your pick |
| 11:36.49 | boudiccas | what blood loss? have you been to a blood donation session? |
| 11:38.02 | dick_turpin | :-) |
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| 12:37.55 | dick_turpin | bilarh: ! |
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| 14:10.01 | kjs | afternoon |
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| 15:29.06 | hali | annoying abovenet routing issues today |
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| 16:24.33 | kjs | hum on a dell poweredge server if i type "fdisk -l" it should list my hardware raid 5 as 1 disk, right? |
| 16:27.13 | z00dax | people still use fdisk these days ? |
| 16:27.21 | hali | i always do :) |
| 16:27.27 | hali | what are the alternatives? |
| 16:27.35 | z00dax | parted |
| 16:27.53 | z00dax | how do you handle gpt / alt / no table situations with fdisk ? |
| 16:28.07 | hali | never had that problem |
| 16:28.21 | z00dax | you dont have disks / LUN's > 1.9 TiB |
| 16:28.26 | hali | fdisk can handle no table situations though |
| 16:28.35 | hali | no i generally don't on linux |
| 16:28.47 | z00dax | pah |
| 16:29.00 | hali | does any linux file systems actually work well with > 1.9? |
| 16:29.08 | hali | it always seem to bugger up |
| 16:29.20 | hali | ext3 with fsck taking 6 days |
| 16:29.36 | z00dax | that can happen. ext4 is a tad better. |
| 16:29.55 | z00dax | kjs: btw, depends on how your raid is setup and what interface it really is |
| 16:30.37 | hali | yes it should, if it lists physical disks it's probably not proper raid but some in driver monkey raid |
| 16:31.39 | hali | not sure if dell still do monkey raid, i know HP do |
| 16:35.37 | z00dax | dell do as well |
| 16:38.49 | hali | annoying, should be banned |
| 16:39.01 | hali | perc6 and h700 are alright |
| 16:54.33 | kjs | z00dax: it's ok i was just looking for some "reassurance" like when you have to format a USB HD on a production system, accidently formatting the array, would be an epic fail. |
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| 20:27.33 | AndyMillar | hali: that's what LVM is for |
| 20:27.39 | AndyMillar | has 17TB physical volumes |
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| 21:48.43 | cpufreak | hali: xfs is fine with multiterabyte fs. |
| 21:48.51 | cpufreak | and has been for many years. |
| 21:48.52 | cpufreak | on linux |
| 21:49.00 | cpufreak | just use lvm, or no partitions. |
| 21:49.26 | cpufreak | or gpt partition tables if you must. |
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