IRC log for #gllug on 20091218

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00:25.39z00daxwere had 3" of snow in the last 2 hrs
00:25.45z00daxwe've
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00:43.19z00daxhttp://www.karan.org/stuff/snow_2.jpeg :)
00:43.51wethrinnice
00:43.56wethrinThere's snow up here, too
00:45.16z00daxi'm guessing you get it slightly more often though
00:45.26wethrinWell, not so much in Durham city
00:45.35z00daxdont think I've seen 4 inches of snow here in london, ever
00:45.38wethrinThe Durham dales get it more, but I don't go there often
00:45.45z00dax( in the 7 years that I've been here )
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08:42.07bilarhuh, snow :S
08:44.01ChoHag:)
08:44.39bilarhi was surprised not to find traffic at a stand still this morning
08:44.57bilarhbut in fact, i got in in exactly 60 minutes, which is better than average :D
08:44.57ChoHagYeah half a cm of snow.
08:44.58ChoHagDevastating.
08:45.42bilarhwe've got at least 2 inches :)
08:46.01ChoHagAlmost nothing in SW.
08:46.06ChoHagIt's started up again though.
08:46.32ChoHagPrince Philip mocked an Army cadet, blinded during a Real IRA bomb attack, by poking fun at his dress sense.
08:46.35ChoHagAs the Queen asked Stephen Menary how much he could see Philip said: "Not a lot, judging by that tie."
08:46.46bilarhlol
08:50.18ChoHagHmm email proposal this morning starts with "... hopefully a firmed up proposal will go out more widely by the end of the week."
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09:17.12Mohanhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/13/AR2009121300007.html?waporef=ak
09:17.34MohanIts really funny to see the uses of twitter..
09:20.47ChoHagIt has uses?
09:25.08Mohanwell someone nerdy is using it for a strange purpose, but the idea is really funny..
09:26.22MohanAnd that tweet has got 19,500 followers.
09:27.56bilarhhehe ace idea
09:33.22Mohanhttp://www.instructables.com/id/The-Twittering-Office-Chair/
09:33.48MohanIt tweets when someone sitting on the chair farts..
09:40.44halihm, fedora directory server is a bit odd
09:40.53halii can't even figure out how to set a group GID from the gui
09:41.53antiphaseUse FreeIPA then
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09:52.10ChoHagIt tweets when someone tweets?
09:52.35mikejwhi dudes
10:01.37haliok, works now, i just had to manually add posixGroup to the group before i could set the gidNumber
10:01.44halimessy
10:04.43antiphaseLDAP fail
10:09.38haliim not even sure why i was pissing about in the gui, my ldif works perfectly
10:10.23ChoHagI occasionally get the feeling that I should know how the GUIs of the apps I use/support work.
10:11.15ChoHagThen after a few minutes I realise that GUIs don't work and go back to the command line.
10:11.15halithe ldap browser is handy
10:11.32ChoHagIncidentally, is there a good ldap server?
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10:21.10ChoHag"Will we be allowed to work from home?"
10:21.17ChoHag"Of course! You will be expected to work from home — after a full day at the office."
10:46.22antiphaseopenldap works, FSVO works
10:46.53ChoHagYeah it's that FSVO I'm trying to find an improvement on.
10:47.51antiphaseMicrosoft AD
10:48.03AndyMillarabuses antiphase
10:56.02ChoHagSomebody calls my [unlisted and unused] landline every morning between 0800 and 0830 and leaves an answering machine message saying "Hello?"
10:56.43bilarhstay in at 0800-0830 and answer the phone
10:57.22ChoHagPah.
10:57.30ChoHagI'd rather reconfigure asterisk to mess them around.
10:57.55antiphase"Reconfigure" suggests that you have it configured to begin with
10:58.11ChoHagGood point.
10:58.19ChoHagRemashup.
10:58.27antiphaseI was wondering then if you might be one of those weird Linux geeks
10:58.43ChoHagNot weird enough to make Asterisk work, no.
11:21.50AndyMillarAsterisk is awesome
11:24.02ChoHagIt's certainly awe inspiring.
11:25.44AndyMillar;p
11:25.54AndyMillar"dd if=/dev/zero bs=1M count=1M | gzip -c > largefile" is taking a while :(
11:26.14antiphaseIt won't be a large file either
11:26.39AndyMillarhmm, that's interesting
11:26.51AndyMillarit looks like /dev/zero compresses 1000:1
11:27.17antiphaseMore correctly, gzip compresses identical data at up to a 1000:1 ratio
11:27.27AndyMillarindeed :)
11:27.34AndyMillarwonders who to email that file to ;)
11:27.49antiphaseWon't it still be 1GB?
11:28.09AndyMillarmmh, that might be a bit big :p
11:28.26AndyMillarany spam filter that extracts zipped content...
11:28.28antiphaseKeep it under 50MB and it ought to be accepted by mail servers, and still expand to 50GB :)
11:28.50AndyMillarwonders if the compressed file will compress
11:29.03cpufreakhttp://www.bitclean.com/download.shtml
11:29.47AndyMillarholy crap that compresses a lot :)
11:35.50AndyMillarok, someone please tell me that bitclean.com isn't being serious :/
11:41.30halii use them all the time
11:41.39halithey come in and sort out my sluggish servers
11:45.49halireminds me a bit of a /dev/random problem we had, we had some old hp server that ran out of entropy all the time as the compaq raid controllers do not generate entropy and there was no keyboard/mouse activity.. we used 'remote hands' to enter random text on the keyboard every couple of weeks before we got a fix in
11:46.07hali(and without entropy SSL stopped working)
11:46.49antiphaseAnswer: use /dev/urandom
11:47.00halithe 'fix' was to symlink random to urandom i think
11:47.17antiphaseHa ha
11:50.34ChoHagAndyMillar: If they were being serious, it'd be wrapped up in so much enterpriseness you couldn't tell what it was and it'd come with a 5 figure price tag.
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12:01.23dick_turpinShalom
12:03.50antiphaseChamone
12:08.19dick_turpinantiphase: You a big Michael Jackson fan then? http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cha%27mone
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12:52.15morsingibot ping www.google.com
12:52.16ibotpong www.google.com
12:52.29morsingibot lookup www.google.com
12:53.43morsingibot nslookup www.google.com
12:54.52dick_turpinstarts to cry
13:18.56dick_turpinWhere's this snow then? The sun is streaming through my window
13:33.55AndyMillarah joy
13:33.59AndyMillaris on the phone to HP again
13:34.04antiphaseHarry Potter?
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13:34.25boudiccasdick_turpin, we've got about 6 inches of snow, with more threatened as well
13:36.19morsingBeer
13:36.34halii think 6" is what they call 'medium length'?
13:37.04ChoHagthreatened?
13:37.19ChoHagLike, if you don't pay up snow will fall?
13:37.46ChoHagOr maybe the other way around - fall any more and I'LL KILL YOU.
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13:38.27ChoHagHey was that me? :)
13:40.55AndyMillarplays hold tennis with HP
13:41.37ChoHagLet me guess - 30 love.
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13:49.42ChoHaghttp://notalwaysright.com/when-open-source-meets-closed-minds/3305
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13:54.16dick_turpinboudiccas: You watch we will get snow tonight, the Midlands will be snow bound then until 06.00am on Monday when it will all miraculously disappear so that we can all go to work like the good staff we are :-(
13:54.51ChoHagI think you typoed slave.
13:56.20dick_turpinLoads of company's up here have started to shut down for Christmas. So much for the credit crunch
13:58.12antiphasecompany's what?
13:59.03bilarhdick_turpin: are they planning on opening in january again?
14:00.34dick_turpinbilarh: I suppose so, we close on the 23rd hopefully mid day come back on the 4th
14:11.43bilarhcool :)
14:11.55bilarhdo you have to use holiday days to cover that?
14:12.01bilarhor unpaid leave?
14:12.07bilarhor is it free holiday?
14:13.53dick_turpin1 day (24th) the rest is covered
14:14.11bilarhdamn, that's ace :D
14:14.17bilarhjammy so and so
14:14.29dick_turpinActually I'm amazed they usually make us work Christmas eve
14:14.42bilarhnot enough work, maybe?
14:15.18dick_turpinActually we are rammed with jobs at the minute
14:16.12boudiccaswe've got 6" of snow here in maidstone, and most of the shops are shut, theres hardly any buses running and the traffic seems to be mostly lorries. the place feels dead, with people walking about very carefully and occasionally falling over. the only real sign of life i saw was kids who'd taken the wheels off their skatebaords and were using them as snowboards
14:17.04dick_turpinPah! there's no such thing as snow
14:17.26boudiccascome down here and you'll see the snow
14:18.07dick_turpinrushes down to Maidstone to frolic in the snow with boudiccas
14:18.16ChoHagUK Patent No. GB1405575. A horse-powered car, putting the cart before the horse. To control the speed, the car's accelerator pedal varies the thrust which the horse must exert to reach its feedbox 2. The brake pedal is linked to the horse's halter. The ignition switch can give the horse's posterior a mild electric shock to stimulate it into movement.
14:18.31ChoHagSuddenly, software patents don't seem so absurd.
14:18.55antiphaseOne suspects it is an attempt at humour
14:19.45boudiccasdick_turpin, i've been out in the snow once today, i aint going out again till monday. you'll have to frolic on your own, i'm being sensible and staying indoors
14:21.39dick_turpinboudiccas: I'd let you play with me snowballs :-)
14:22.45boudiccasnah, its too slippy and cold out there, and no i dont want to play with your snowballs thanks
14:27.55dick_turpingoes of to show bilarh his snowballs as that old tart is always up for a good time.
14:28.01dick_turpingoes off
14:46.47bilarhoh well, that's a shame: http://media.gm.com/content/media/us/en/news/news_detail.html/content/Pages/news/us/en/2009/Dec/1218_Saab_Release
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14:47.41bilarh:'(
14:47.57antiphaseThey only made foreign crap anyway
14:52.22ChoHagYou know I said this morning that some company keeps calling at about 8AM and leaves a message saying "Hello? Hello?"
14:52.41ChoHagWell on a whim I checked, and there is actually a message which says we're not here and to leave a message.
14:53.01ChoHag"We're not here. Please leave a message. <beep>" "Hello? Hello?"
14:53.13antiphaseIs it one of those special prank calls to relieve you of all your money?
14:53.21ChoHagshrugs
14:53.31ChoHagI think something like that.
14:54.17bilarhoh well, hopefully this means i can pick up a cheap as chips saab :D
14:54.35ChoHagbilarh: Buying a car at auction?
14:54.48bilarhno i was hoping that i could do something like MG :)
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15:35.34antiphaseSell out to the Chinese?
15:40.53bilarhno sell off their remaining cars dirt cheap
15:41.48antiphaseThink of how much you could save!!!
15:42.15bilarhi'm thinking of how much i could not spend :P
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