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| 08:27.31 | ChoHag | http://pauldotcom.com/assets_c/2009/11/responsible-disclosure-342.html |
| 08:28.38 | ChoHag | I got mightily pissed off in Tesco this morning. |
| 08:29.05 | zeroXten | reading that? |
| 08:29.10 | ChoHag | One of the gimps that work there said to a customer that she has to "do what [she's] told". |
| 08:30.18 | zeroXten | wait, so we're not talking about disclosure? |
| 08:30.24 | ChoHag | No. That was just random.3 |
| 08:30.28 | ChoHag | Like that '3'. |
| 08:30.29 | zeroXten | ah heh |
| 08:30.59 | zeroXten | tesco peep told customer to do what shes told? |
| 08:31.03 | ChoHag | Yes. |
| 08:31.09 | zeroXten | etf |
| 08:31.12 | zeroXten | uhh |
| 08:31.14 | zeroXten | wtf |
| 08:31.21 | zeroXten | (on bus) |
| 08:31.28 | ChoHag | Some woman picked up a croissant and the gimp told her she has to those silly tweezer things. |
| 08:31.47 | ChoHag | When she said she was the one going to eat it he said "you have to do what you're told" |
| 08:31.51 | zeroXten | ah |
| 08:32.16 | ChoHag | And now I'm hungry because I shouted at him and walked out without buying a croissant. |
| 08:32.18 | Leeds | at which point you say "no I fucking don't - I have to pay for this product, and the rest is my business, you jumped-up twat" |
| 08:32.35 | zeroXten | heh |
| 08:32.40 | ChoHag | Leeds: If I'd tried saying anything like that I'd probably have hit him so I just left. |
| 08:32.48 | ChoHag | I might tell the manager at lunchtime. |
| 08:33.05 | zeroXten | how did she react? |
| 08:33.40 | ChoHag | I didn't stop to look. Just asked the guy what he said, turned on my heel and walked straight out. |
| 08:33.58 | zeroXten | ah |
| 08:34.32 | Leeds | I have a reputation around here for shouting at sales staff |
| 08:34.41 | ChoHag | I don't know what I'd have done otherwise - hit the guy or spat on the croissants or something. |
| 08:35.10 | ChoHag | And it would have gone downhill from there. |
| 08:35.15 | zeroXten | yeah |
| 08:35.42 | Leeds | places here - particularly phone company shops and banks - have a habit of saying they can't do anything to help you, you need to speak to their customer service staff |
| 08:36.19 | Leeds | it always amuses me that the staff in the shop are quite happy to admit that they're not there to provide service to customers - that's the job of the anonymous people on the phone line |
| 08:36.55 | ChoHag | 'Customer service' always amuses me. |
| 08:37.05 | zeroXten | yeah. you cannot hit people down a phone line |
| 08:37.16 | ChoHag | It implies that the other staff are not there to serve customers. |
| 08:37.26 | Leeds | I've been known to throw the phone across the shop |
| 08:37.45 | Leeds | making at least a minor effort not to hit people with it - don't really want to be done for assualt |
| 08:37.51 | Leeds | er, assault |
| 08:38.07 | zeroXten | how many times has that happened? |
| 08:38.43 | Leeds | I've also been known to block the entrance to a store - by standing in it - until the idiots on the phone take me off hold and deal with whatever problem I've called them for |
| 08:39.02 | Leeds | being done, or throwing the phone? |
| 08:39.11 | zeroXten | the latter |
| 08:39.26 | Leeds | at least 2 or 3 times |
| 08:39.30 | zeroXten | heh |
| 08:40.10 | ChoHag | Phone companies are evil. |
| 08:40.29 | zeroXten | r |
| 08:41.05 | Leeds | I get along okay with my current network - the local Vodafone subsidiary - and I got along better with my previous lot, except they don't do 3G |
| 08:41.47 | zeroXten | ah |
| 08:42.09 | Leeds | the previous lot are now the local subsidiary of China Mobile - they weren't when I signed up with them - who happen to be 'the Android network' in China, while the other big network is doing iPhone |
| 08:43.00 | zeroXten | where abouts are you Leeds ? |
| 08:43.13 | Leeds | Hongkie Town |
| 08:43.20 | zeroXten | aah |
| 08:43.44 | zeroXten | i was gonna say |
| 08:44.37 | zeroXten | man, g1 battery sucks. this ssh has taken me from half full to <15% |
| 08:45.03 | Leeds | I handed my G1 off to my gf last night - she's mainly interested in it for games :) I've got a Magic |
| 08:45.06 | zeroXten | it'll be dead before i get to work |
| 08:45.21 | ChoHag | Are smart phones worth the effort? |
| 08:45.27 | zeroXten | must. have. keyboard. |
| 08:45.33 | ChoHag | Also, are they too smart to do phone calls? |
| 08:45.41 | zeroXten | yeah =( |
| 08:45.48 | Leeds | what's a "phone call"? |
| 08:45.53 | zeroXten | heh |
| 08:46.16 | Leeds | keeping an active network session, the screen powered up, and the CPU unable to sleep will slaughter the battery, yes |
| 08:46.43 | zeroXten | so like... using it? |
| 08:47.09 | zeroXten | right. bbiab. getting off bus time |
| 08:47.15 | Leeds | they're designed to sleep a lot |
| 08:47.21 | Leeds | by Americans :P |
| 08:47.21 | zeroXten | irc is the new twitter |
| 08:47.28 | ChoHag | Like some of us? |
| 08:47.40 | ChoHag | zeroXten: And now you can twitter through irc. |
| 08:47.42 | Leeds | like me, frankly |
| 08:48.29 | zeroXten | heh |
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| 09:49.22 | AndyMill1r | ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch :( |
| 09:50.42 | AndyMillar | why do we have to ahve work drinks on thursdays |
| 09:51.47 | DiscordianUK | So you can go to the pub for hair of the dog on Fridays? |
| 09:51.48 | hali | morning |
| 09:52.22 | AndyMillar | ugh :( |
| 09:53.55 | Mohan | morning |
| 09:54.41 | AndyMillar | hmm, i love reading the tickets I created in the pub in the morning :( |
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| 11:35.19 | hali | thanks vmware, just spend 26k with them and i got a free tshirt! |
| 11:46.05 | zeroXten | cool |
| 11:46.32 | zeroXten | what do you get if you spend £100k? |
| 11:46.36 | zeroXten | socks? |
| 11:46.46 | zeroXten | 256MB USB stick :) |
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| 12:19.45 | hali | z00dax: do you want any additional pci cards? i have scsi, quad-100meg or 2gb fcal in stock :-) |
| 12:29.53 | AndyMillar | appears to haver a random assortment of crap in his desk |
| 12:30.05 | AndyMillar | including a betfair air-con controller |
| 12:32.04 | z00dax | hali: hey |
| 12:32.37 | z00dax | hali: you said the box already had a quad port ? so, the fcal would be nice to have |
| 12:33.27 | z00dax | humm.. wonder whats a good sparc build to start with fedora-sparc seem to have not done a tree in a while |
| 12:36.40 | z00dax | http://archives.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora-secondary/releases/test/work/sparc/ |
| 12:36.48 | z00dax | that looks to be it |
| 12:40.02 | z00dax | also, hali eta ~ 3:30 work for you ? |
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| 12:44.06 | dick_turpin | Afternoon All |
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| 13:08.47 | hali | z00dax: yep |
| 13:12.57 | z00dax | humm... my blade1k needs a password reset, with no cd/dvd drive. |
| 13:13.32 | AndyMillar | pxe |
| 13:13.46 | z00dax | I can do that, what do i pxe though ? |
| 13:13.56 | z00dax | does opensolaris even work for sparc now ? |
| 13:15.01 | z00dax | I may as well download and install the fedora-sparc build and work back from there |
| 13:15.07 | z00dax | fires up a rsync |
| 13:15.10 | hali | z00dax: it does, it's got solaris 8 on it now :) |
| 13:15.24 | hali | it doesn't do pxe |
| 13:15.35 | hali | uses rarp |
| 13:15.48 | hali | the alom is excellent, you can do everything remotely |
| 13:15.48 | z00dax | yup |
| 13:15.56 | z00dax | http://www.karan.org/blog/index.php/2008/03/01/ |
| 13:16.29 | z00dax | am presently trying to get my blade1k into a state where I might be able to use it |
| 13:16.37 | ChoHag | Does it count as cannibilism if you eat yourself? |
| 13:16.43 | ChoHag | Because my right cheek is now a lot thinner. |
| 13:16.54 | hali | buttcheek? |
| 13:16.58 | z00dax | people in the office are quite upset with my usual desktop - its way too loud, and moving it from under 2 layers of disks into the open has meant it can now be heard from outside the office :( |
| 13:17.17 | z00dax | hali: needs some way serious flexibility for that! |
| 13:21.08 | z00dax | humm dont think I've ever done initrd via rarp/tftp before for OF |
| 13:21.55 | z00dax | humm 'Fast Data Access MMU Miss' is not a good sign is it |
| 13:24.57 | hali | you get that once in a while on sun boxes, sometimes it means fail sometimes just hickup |
| 13:59.51 | dick_turpin | ChoHag: Apparently my location may not be an issue with your former employer |
| 14:00.42 | dick_turpin | All I have to do now is get Degree boy to write me an uber awesome CV |
| 14:00.50 | dick_turpin | Hahaha |
| 14:01.00 | dick_turpin | Degeree boy = wethrin |
| 14:01.06 | dick_turpin | degree |
| 14:01.11 | z00dax | dick_turpin: is that the job you wanted to do standing on your head ? |
| 14:01.18 | dick_turpin | z00dax: Yeah |
| 14:01.48 | z00dax | CV's are overrated really |
| 14:01.50 | dick_turpin | z00dax: I checked them out this morning TBH they are almost a carbon copy of us |
| 14:02.08 | z00dax | dick_turpin: hopefully the pay is better :) |
| 14:02.38 | dick_turpin | OK we are not predominately Linux based although some of our web servers are |
| 14:02.44 | dick_turpin | z00dax: A lot :-) |
| 14:03.27 | dick_turpin | z00dax: Its the covering letter :-( my handwriting is worse than appalling :-( :-( |
| 14:03.30 | ChoHag | Told you. They're not entirely unreasonable there. |
| 14:06.05 | dick_turpin | ChoHag: I'm only going by what he replied to on the gllug list I've not contacted him direct yet but TBH I'm 98% interested the only problem for me is my age |
| 14:07.45 | ChoHag | That's a problem for everyone. |
| 14:07.47 | ChoHag | Nobody gets younger. |
| 14:07.55 | ChoHag | Not in this universe anyway. |
| 14:08.54 | dick_turpin | Plus I could probably be here for the next 10 years if I lasted 6 months at his place I'd be utterly screwed |
| 14:09.23 | wethrin | is dick_turpin applying for the Positive job? |
| 14:09.36 | dick_turpin | wethrin: Would like to |
| 14:10.00 | dick_turpin | wethrin: You did say I deserved better employers |
| 14:10.13 | ChoHag | You're like my wife - always saying why an idea is a bad one before even trying it out. |
| 14:10.22 | ChoHag | Drives me nuts. |
| 14:10.39 | wethrin | So it's like a steering wheel in your pants? |
| 14:10.42 | ChoHag | <Her> Oh no. I can't apply for that job because they won't want me. |
| 14:10.48 | ChoHag | <Me> How do you know? |
| 14:10.54 | dick_turpin | ChoHag: Yes but not many women like doing those sorts of thing you disgusting perv ;-) |
| 14:12.29 | ChoHag | I guess I'm just lucky... |
| 14:12.52 | dick_turpin | I'm not :-( |
| 14:13.59 | dick_turpin | wethrin: z00dax: Do you think I'd get away with "Have a look at my linkedin profile" as a CV ? |
| 14:14.13 | wethrin | To Positive, probably :) |
| 14:15.00 | dick_turpin | Rotflmao you say I'm too positive and ChoHag says I'm too negative |
| 14:15.23 | wethrin | I didn't say that :) |
| 14:17.47 | dick_turpin | Dunno, I like the sound of it and the money. I think I'll chew it over over the weekend. Pity I don't live closer could of had a 'chat' before a proper Interview not done one of those in over 10 years |
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| 14:23.35 | ChoHag | <f1agrant> I just saved a ton of money on my car insurance by fleeing the scene of the accident. |
| 14:23.43 | z00dax | if the linkedin profile is full up, and you have a few recommendations and links to former co-workers etc, its worth a lot more than a CV |
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| 14:24.29 | dick_turpin | z00dax: Yeah but I just re-read it and its too sales orientated |
| 14:24.33 | z00dax | I guess one thing that does come from linkedin is that there is almost a web of trust thing that can potentially start working in your favour. Specially in niche markets like OpenSouce admin/management/development in localised communities like ruby-london etc. |
| 14:25.02 | ChoHag | OpenSouce? |
| 14:25.07 | ChoHag | Is that some kind of cookery? |
| 14:25.20 | z00dax | add an 'r' to taste |
| 14:25.37 | ChoHag | Oh don't say that. I don't want to be stuck doing ruby jobs for years. |
| 14:26.17 | z00dax | dick_turpin: whatever you are going to add to the CV, add to the linkedin profile. I guess one more thing that goes in favour of that is fewer people are likely to fib on a public setup like that |
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| 14:26.25 | z00dax | wonders if 'fib' is the right word |
| 14:26.42 | z00dax | ChoHag: then make sure its not only ruby people you are linked upto in linkedin :) |
| 14:26.56 | z00dax | I should prolly log in there myself one of these days and update stuff |
| 14:27.12 | wethrin | I occasionally get people requesting to link with me on LinkedIn |
| 14:27.31 | dick_turpin | z00dax: Hopefully (If he is interested) he will have tried the links on my email and seen my profiles. Oh wait he may well have blocked my email address now ;-) |
| 14:27.58 | dick_turpin | wethrin: Yes but they are Billy-no-mates types ;-) |
| 14:28.18 | dick_turpin | Dam I'm linked to him dam dam dam |
| 14:28.37 | wethrin | Hehe |
| 14:29.41 | ChoHag | I think the only person I'm linked to is a pimp that didn't manage to get me a job. |
| 14:31.11 | dick_turpin | I have 39 links |
| 14:44.31 | zeroXten | hmm, linkedin. haven't used that for a while |
| 14:45.31 | dick_turpin | There is one thing if I did get that job |
| 14:46.07 | dick_turpin | If I got it that would mean I could afford to eat again but would have to give up IRC, identi.ca in fact every Internet activity I do on a daily basis :-/ |
| 14:47.40 | ChoHag | heh. People who can't pronounce r's. |
| 14:47.47 | ChoHag | 'The woes in a database' |
| 14:56.26 | zeroXten | heh |
| 15:04.32 | z00dax | heads off to go see hali |
| 15:11.02 | hali | woo |
| 15:11.09 | hali | see you shortly |
| 15:11.19 | hali | the pink box is sitting here, do you need anything else? cables etc? |
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