| 01:10.01 | rhowe | leeds! |
| 01:10.11 | Leeds | yes? |
| 01:10.44 | rhowe | just saying hi |
| 01:11.16 | rhowe | putty s60 works with ipv6 :D |
| 01:13.15 | Leeds | hi :) |
| 01:13.20 | Leeds | watching the start of Question Time |
| 01:14.27 | rhowe | I missed it. was in the pub with linuxy folk |
| 01:14.58 | Leeds | iplayer works well :) |
| 01:15.15 | rhowe | bed. up in 6h |
| 01:15.48 | rhowe | someone please write a teredo client for s60 |
| 01:15.51 | Leeds | it'll still be there in the morning... g'night |
| 01:16.05 | Leeds | s60 is a dead-end, man... Android FTW! |
| 01:16.18 | rhowe | first aid course tomorrow |
| 01:17.02 | rhowe | s60'll be around for another 15 months and by then android might be good |
| 01:17.19 | Leeds | Android is already good |
| 01:17.32 | rhowe | hugs his e71 |
| 01:18.16 | rhowe | there aren't any phones fast enough for android yet |
| 01:20.47 | rhowe | -> bed |
| 01:20.55 | Leeds | sleep well |
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| 08:51.32 | hali | morning |
| 08:54.38 | Armand|Lappy | Morning hali.. :) |
| 09:34.31 | cpufreak | rhowe: just get an iphone |
| 09:35.30 | Armand|Lappy | ¬_¬ |
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| 10:49.55 | AndyMillar | hmm, denyhosts has been going mad today |
| 10:57.12 | Alex | Have the computers reached sentience? |
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| 11:18.22 | AndyMillar | well, ~400 attempts so far this morning |
| 11:21.13 | dick_turpin | has sold a whopping 3 copies of W7 Pro so far |
| 11:21.34 | AndyMillar | dick_turpin: i feel sorry for you :( |
| 11:22.27 | dick_turpin | Must admit I'm a bit surprised |
| 11:25.59 | AndyMillar | well, where ChoHag is going, iirc, they're now running windows 7 :p |
| 11:28.01 | dick_turpin | Well I hate them cos they didn't buy it from me ;-) |
| 11:28.49 | AndyMillar | :p |
| 11:28.54 | AndyMillar | you make any money out of it? |
| 11:31.08 | dick_turpin | AndyMillar: Yeah about £13 odd per copy £250 on 2 X 2nd user base units and about £100 on installation |
| 12:09.52 | Mohan | Is there a recommended seagate series harddisk for 1.5TB like the NS series one for 1TB ? |
| 12:12.47 | Armand|Lappy | *cough* Samsung F3 *cough* |
| 12:13.28 | Mohan | 1TB(ST31000340NS) like wise any recommended models for 1.5TB ? |
| 12:15.21 | Blapto | I went Samsung Spinpoint F1 for my 1TB, happy with that. |
| 12:15.30 | Blapto | Despite the name like a washing machine. |
| 12:16.06 | Mohan | http://misco.co.uk/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=290031&CatId=0 |
| 12:16.37 | Mohan | this model seems to be reliable and used at various media installations. |
| 12:17.03 | Mohan | I was wondering if there is any such recommendations in seagate 1.5TB series. |
| 12:23.15 | AndyMillar | the seagate 1.5tb ones have been fine fo rme |
| 12:23.17 | AndyMillar | for* |
| 12:25.15 | dick_turpin | I have the western digital (Green) 1TB and its fine |
| 12:26.59 | Blapto | I think really it's just luck of the draw now. |
| 12:27.16 | Blapto | Not like days of yore with the IBM deathstar, etc. |
| 12:35.27 | Mohan | AndyMillar: will it be possible for you to give me the series no ? |
| 12:36.12 | AndyMillar | Mohan: ah christ, I'll have a look |
| 12:36.55 | AndyMillar | https://www.andymillar.co.uk/temp/raid1.txt |
| 12:36.59 | AndyMillar | i think they're the seagates |
| 12:37.10 | AndyMillar | yep |
| 12:37.28 | AndyMillar | wonders how many we've got - ~100 or so? |
| 12:38.18 | AndyMillar | hmm |
| 12:38.24 | AndyMillar | shouldn't go browsing his temp/ folder |
| 12:38.53 | Mohan | AndyMillar: thanks. |
| 12:42.19 | AndyMillar | https://www.andymillar.co.uk/temp/epicramfail.jpg |
| 12:42.21 | AndyMillar | \o/ |
| 12:50.04 | dick_turpin | AndyMillar: I'm no expert but that don't look good ;-) |
| 12:50.40 | AndyMillar | dick_turpin: indeed :-) |
| 12:50.46 | AndyMillar | has that ram in his desk draw |
| 12:50.54 | AndyMillar | drawer* ? |
| 12:52.07 | dick_turpin | I think you need some sandpaper and buff up them brass looking strips you'll get a better connection then run the test again ;-) |
| 12:52.32 | AndyMillar | *g* |
| 12:52.42 | AndyMillar | I'll leave it for when someone annoys me too much |
| 12:52.46 | AndyMillar | and bung it in their laptop ;) |
| 12:52.54 | AndyMillar | cpufreak: I didn't say that ;) |
| 12:52.58 | boudiccas | lol |
| 12:53.02 | dick_turpin | lol |
| 12:53.08 | boudiccas | snap |
| 12:55.31 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Don't do that I thought my truss had broken |
| 13:10.43 | cpufreak | AndyMillar: I saw nothing |
| 13:10.46 | cpufreak | bilarh: http://www.flickr.com/photos/itwasntandy/sets/72157622644445752/ |
| 13:11.08 | cpufreak | bilarh: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGs02COBk_o |
| 13:11.10 | cpufreak | (me driving my car) |
| 13:11.23 | cpufreak | bilarh: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pCnLVKYDd8 |
| 13:11.27 | cpufreak | (antiphase driving his car) |
| 13:15.09 | boudiccas | lol |
| 13:15.26 | boudiccas | lol at dick_turpin |
| 13:18.36 | cpufreak | AndyMillar: if you want to test ram |
| 13:18.52 | cpufreak | you should use this: http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2009/10/fighting-bad-memories-stressful.html |
| 13:19.19 | AndyMillar | cpufreak: nah, $user just had issues with stuff randomly breaking |
| 13:26.45 | cpufreak | ah |
| 13:26.50 | cpufreak | you should still use that google thing |
| 13:26.51 | cpufreak | it rocks |
| 13:26.53 | cpufreak | we're using it |
| 13:27.44 | Blapto | Is it showing up much you wouldn't have found otherwise? |
| 13:30.09 | cpufreak | si |
| 13:30.20 | cpufreak | we run it on machines prior to them going into use |
| 13:30.25 | cpufreak | and also on idle standby nodes |
| 13:30.26 | cpufreak | and so on |
| 13:38.04 | AndyMillar | :) |
| 13:48.27 | Blapto | Bet your accountant loves your power bill. |
| 13:51.51 | cpufreak | when you're on flat rates for power based on the capacity you might need, it makes sense to use it :P |
| 13:52.12 | cpufreak | but more sensibly, a production outage costs a lot more than a little bit of electricity |
| 13:54.57 | Blapto | Yes, true |
| 13:55.11 | Blapto | Personally I wouldn't do it on known-good idle nodes. |
| 13:55.22 | Blapto | Perhaps for 4 hours on a Sunday maybe. |
| 13:55.32 | Blapto | But, well, perhaps your risks are different to ours. |
| 13:55.58 | cpufreak | define known good? |
| 13:56.33 | Blapto | Ones that you've run it on before putting them into production |
| 13:56.42 | Blapto | It's quite rare that hardware develops faults. |
| 13:56.51 | Blapto | It's typically faulty or it's not. |
| 13:57.03 | cpufreak | no |
| 13:57.18 | bilarh | tell that to our cluster nodes that develop faulty memory chips every so often |
| 13:57.22 | cpufreak | for the first 18 months or so of a systems life you will hit most of the failures |
| 13:57.27 | bilarh | about 2 a month, roughly |
| 13:57.27 | cpufreak | you'll swap the bad dimms out |
| 13:57.44 | Blapto | bilarh: each, or per x nodes? |
| 13:57.48 | cpufreak | and then gradually over time you have less + less faulty dimms, and the systems reliability improves |
| 13:57.52 | wethrin | And after 18 months, you replace the systems with newer ones? |
| 13:57.57 | bilarh | blapto: in total |
| 13:58.02 | Blapto | How many nodes? |
| 13:58.09 | Blapto | wethrin: in a world with an infinite budget, sure. |
| 13:58.14 | bilarh | blapto: about 1300 on site |
| 13:58.16 | cpufreak | wethrin: hehe, our current prod DB servers were bought 4 years ago |
| 13:58.16 | cpufreak | which is pretty good |
| 13:58.35 | wethrin | Hmm. The Grid computing place here replaced every 18 months or so :) |
| 13:58.40 | wethrin | But they get lots of money |
| 13:58.40 | cpufreak | Blapto: remember bigger nodes, have more dimms, more things that can fail |
| 13:58.46 | cpufreak | when you have systems with half a terabyte of ram or more |
| 13:58.54 | cpufreak | that's a lot of chips which could be potentially faulity |
| 13:59.14 | boudiccas | faulity?? |
| 13:59.29 | boudiccas | and yes i do know its a typoe |
| 14:01.11 | cpufreak | fawlty |
| 14:01.36 | bilarh | basil, is that you? |
| 14:03.13 | boudiccas | whats basil brush got to do with it? |
| 14:04.07 | Blapto | It's the sound DIMMs make as they fail |
| 14:04.08 | Blapto | boom boom |
| 14:04.20 | bilarh | :D |
| 14:05.03 | boudiccas | i honestly couldnt remember basil brush's tag line of 'boom, boom!' |
| 14:05.05 | AndyMillar | cpufreak: your prod db servers are rather big though :p |
| 15:08.09 | cpufreak | bilarh: did you see those vids? |
| 15:08.12 | cpufreak | AndyMillar: true dat |
| 15:53.54 | ChoHag | '... right wing extremist Catholics, who are usually called âCatholicsâ' |
| 15:54.27 | wethrin | huh? |
| 16:00.32 | ChoHag | Wrong channel. |
| 16:00.35 | wethrin | ah |
| 16:00.38 | wethrin | carry on |
| 16:00.46 | ChoHag | A random dig against catholics. |
| 16:04.52 | Blapto | dig @catholics faith |
| 16:19.44 | Armand|Lappy | \o/ |
| 16:28.00 | Armand|Lappy | http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20091023/tod-satnav-blunder-this-asda-be-the-wron-870a197.html |
| 16:28.05 | Armand|Lappy | TWAT! |
| 16:32.58 | wethrin | Surely, SURELY, if you're travelling down a footpath, you should realise something's wrong? |
| 16:36.08 | Armand|Lappy | goes to prove.. Asda don't employ people based on intelligence. |
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| 17:56.14 | outoffocus | hi - I am andrew black - anyone else around |
| 17:57.21 | Leeds | nope |
| 17:57.59 | Leeds | outoffocus: also, I like my Magic |
| 17:58.08 | outoffocus | hi leeds |
| 17:58.31 | outoffocus | are you still in HK |
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| 17:59.19 | Leeds | sure |
| 18:01.00 | Leeds | where it is now bedtime... |
| 18:01.12 | outoffocus | ah - so bye bye then |
| 18:08.51 | boudiccas | fireworks sounding outside, the first this year |
| 18:12.54 | Armand|Lappy | We were hearing them at the weekend. |
| 18:13.01 | Armand|Lappy | *landing on our roof.. >_< |
| 18:13.32 | boudiccas | maybe there celebrating diwalli a bit late? |
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