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07:22.01ChoHag"SEnior Programmer Vanaccy with Wellcome Trust"
07:59.53antiphaseAre you looking for a job again?
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10:02.12ChoHagNo I just keep getting their spam.
10:05.04AndyMillarso... hungover :(
10:05.19halignats
10:05.43halimost xeon 5500 kit seems to have the same problem as high end amd has re memory speed
10:05.54hali12xdimm config is 1333mhz and 18xdimm config is a lousy 800
10:06.17AndyMillaryeah, there's a handful of "sweet spots" for it
10:06.21AndyMillariirc
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13:26.57lejocelynhi
13:27.40lejocelyndo you know any good website for buying laptop ?
13:27.47wethrinwww.apple.com/ukstore
13:27.52lejocelynI just broke my eeePC
13:27.55lejocelynwethrin: ...
13:28.07lejocelyni'd like to buy an eeePC
13:28.09antiphasedot dot dot
13:28.31wethrinYou didn't say that in the first place :)
13:28.36antiphaseLe Google ne marche pas aujourd'hui?
13:29.39lejocelynwethrin: well, I though here people would recommand Linux friendly store...
13:30.09lejocelynantiphase: well, I can find some from Google, but I don't know if they are really interesting
13:30.44antiphaseI just find the cheapest place that doesn't look dodgy and buy things usually
13:31.00antiphaseThey'd have to be sort-of Linux friendly if they stock Linux eeeeeees
13:31.59dick_turpinsmiles in a friendly salesman manner at antiphase
13:32.46lejocelynantiphase: ok, what is this cheapest place ?
13:32.50lejocelynI don't know London
13:33.12lejocelynI just broke my netbook and I need one to go to my lessons whichi will start the 5th
13:33.30antiphaseI thought you wanted a website?
13:33.45lejocelynantiphase: well, would be better
13:33.56lejocelynbut if you can advise places, why no
13:33.57lejocelynnot
13:34.54antiphaseTottenham Court Road is the usual place, assuming you're in London
13:35.36AndyMillaror, www.ebuyer.com can priobably manage
13:37.07bilarhwhat's that store just off tottenham ct road again?
13:37.10bilarhyoyotech?
13:37.23bilarhthey were usually ok a couple of years back at least
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13:37.57lejocelyn:)
13:39.21dick_turpinWhats broken? dick_turpin notices nobody has asked the basics, maybe it can be fixed
13:42.53lejocelynI broke the screen
13:43.23lejocelynthe eeePc works fine, except the screen, I guess I'll turn it into a server :D
13:43.26lejocelynhome server
13:47.21lejocelynchanging the part of the screen which is broken would be almost as expansive than buying a new one
13:47.33lejocelynwell, would cost 100£ in France
13:48.32antiphaseSacre dieu!
13:49.10lejocelynSacre bleu ;)
13:51.43dick_turpinOops thats 50% of the value up the Swanee
13:52.00lejocelynSwanee ?
13:52.14dick_turpinMother board and screen is always 50% of the value
13:52.44dick_turpinSwanee is a river its a UK saying don't worry about it
14:01.31wethrinI got my Eeeee from Expansys
14:07.38dick_turpinThe only netbooks I've seen through the refurb market have been Acer one notes and Samsung NC10
14:08.01lejocelynrefurb ? means already used ?
14:08.05lejocelynsecond hand ?
14:08.12dick_turpinI reckon some of the low end EeePC's will just get chucked in the bin
14:08.23dick_turpinlejocelyn: Yes
14:11.22wethrinI doubt I'd buy an Eeepc again
14:11.40wethrinI've got a 4G surf, and, frankly, it's just a bit poor
14:11.48bilarhthey're a bit rubbish, aren't they
14:11.50bilarhwe have one too
14:11.52bilarhbut it sucks
14:12.06dick_turpinDon't buy the Dell Mini 10, its shite with Linux :-(
14:12.07bilarhthe space bar barely works
14:12.19bilarhand the mouse buttons are unworkable
14:12.45wethrinTrackpad's too small. keyboard's a bit fiddly (but that's what you get on a tiny machine)
14:12.46bilarhand as it's running that "os written by teenagers in moms basement", it does't do wireless properly
14:12.56wethrinheh. The OS sucks on it.
14:13.09bilarhyeah, it relaly does
14:13.13bilarhi was all excited about a linux laptop
14:13.14wethrinI had to do a factory restore the other day on it, because it decided to stop booting. For no reason.
14:13.17bilarhbut it's just rubbish
14:13.27wethrinThe documentation is just wrong in some places
14:13.45bilarhin all honesty, i'd rather run ms dos 6.22
14:13.58wethrinI got it on a discounted price, which was handy :) And it allows me to IRC and watch videos on the train.
14:14.00dick_turpinbilarh: Ooh you cant say that
14:14.03wethrinWhich is handy.
14:14.09bilarhdick_turpin: eat me
14:14.16bilarheh
14:14.25bilarhi mean "bite me", obviously
14:14.35dick_turpinbilarh: You mean bite me you stupid Swede
14:14.37bilarhlittle freudian slip of the tongue
14:17.16lejocelynbilarh: well, I was really satisfied by my eeePC
14:17.38lejocelynthe SSD drive was a bit slow
14:17.44lejocelynbut else, everything was ok
14:17.57lejocelynfor a computer of that price
14:18.27wethrinYes, unfortunately YGWYPF
14:20.46dick_turpinwethrin: Translation?
14:21.15bilarhdick_turpin: you get what you pay for, you stupid midlander
14:21.52lejocelynesay, even I did understand :D
14:23.46wethrinWhat bilarh said :)
14:26.53dick_turpinbilarh: Oh yeeeaaah I can see that now, well I never
14:27.55boudiccasdick_turpin, what? never?? well, i'll go to the top of our stairs!!! :)
14:29.55dick_turpinboudiccas: Having a blond day I'm afraid :-(
14:33.58boudiccasdick_turpin, i thought it was called a 'senior moment'??? :)
14:35.18dick_turpinboudiccas: Alzheimer's
14:35.26wethrin"What, never?" "No, never!" "What, never?" "Hardly ever...."
14:36.59bilarhdick_turpin: is it possible to have a blonde day if you're actually bald?
14:37.40boudiccasbilarh, yes, you can have a blonde beard and be bald :)
14:39.03bilarhgood point
14:39.30bilarhor under arm hair
14:41.18dick_turpinOr the crack of me bum :-)
14:42.02boudiccasdick_turpin, i dont want to think about that thank you, i've seen enough of other people's bums
14:42.12boudiccas:)
14:42.22bilarhdick_turpin: trust you to drag the conversation down
14:43.38dick_turpinboudiccas: I dunno, some people bums are better looking that their face. Take bilarh for example
14:44.25bilarhi wouldn't necessarily say that
14:44.41bilarhi might have a face like an arse, but it's the arse of jessica simpson
14:45.08bilarhthe ink came off the magazine paper when i was rubbing my face against it :(
14:45.40dick_turpinbilarh: No your arse is quite attractive its your face that needs putting out of its misery
14:45.52bilarh:P
14:47.03dick_turpinhugs bilarh as he lubs him really
14:47.16boudiccaslubs him?????
14:49.06dick_turpinboudiccas: Yeah you have to use gooey baby talk with him, you know what he is like
14:49.18boudiccaslol
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15:40.13Copeanyone want a job?
15:40.17wethrinWhere?
15:40.21CopeNW London
15:40.24wethrinAsk ChoHag
15:40.29CopeChoHag: do you want a job?
15:40.37wethrin(although he's hiding ATM)
15:40.44ChoHagI'm not.
15:40.44CopeChoHag: come out, you coward!
15:40.46ChoHagYou beeped.
15:40.46Copeah!
15:40.48Copehello
15:40.51wethrinOh. He's hiding1 :)
15:40.52Copedo you want a job?
15:41.15ChoHagYes.
15:41.20ChoHagThough I'm starting a contract on Monday.
15:41.26Armandhehehe
15:41.38antiphaseThat's if the pigs don't find out about your gun running operation
15:41.45ChoHagTrue.
15:42.22CopeChoHag: how long's the contract?
15:42.32ChoHagUntil Christmas.
15:42.37Copenods
15:42.40ChoHagI ought to find out where to go on Monday actually.
15:42.46wethrinTo the workplace
15:42.51Copethink we want someone to start sooner than xmas :(
15:42.57Copebut it is a full time rolw
15:43.21Copeanyone else want a job?
15:43.49DiscordianUKWhereabouts?
15:43.55cpufreakhow much does it pay?
15:44.11cpufreakChoHag: tube to hammersmith, then follow the yellow brick road
15:44.17wethrinIf it's not NINETY MEEEELION POUNDS A MONTH, it's not worth 90% of Gllug's time ;-)
15:44.35MohanCope: what type of job is it ?
15:44.45Copeok... well this is a linux syadmin, nw london, 45K
15:44.52Copecool company
15:45.02Copez00dax and I work there
15:45.04cpufreak45K/month?
15:45.13Copecpufreak: second
15:45.14Armandcan't do sysadmin.. ¬_¬
15:45.15wethrinOh, that's not bad. I'm not that desperate for a job to go back to sysadminning, though :-)
15:45.23Copegrins
15:45.27cpufreakme either
15:45.33Copeis leaving.
15:45.36ChoHagis still stuck with sysadminning.
15:45.36cpufreakoh?
15:45.39cpufreakwhere are you going?
15:45.41DiscordianUKHeh
15:45.45Copebetter and brighter things
15:45.48cpufreakits nice  being a mangler, and away from production
15:45.51jpdsconsiders leaving Telecity for the day.
15:45.53Copecpufreak: right
15:45.53wethrinI'm happy enough in my ivory towers
15:46.04cpufreakwethrin: are you still a stinky student?
15:46.15Armandhas a job with a stock-take company... :)
15:46.30Copecpufreak: my contract's come to an end... which is cool, i have heaps of opportunities; but I'm been dong quite a bit of mangling recently so may look for more of same
15:47.00DiscordianUKNW London? Enfield?
15:48.30CopeKentish Town
15:48.46DiscordianUKOh nice area
15:48.51Copeyeah - it really is
15:49.03MohanCope: Any special requirements like 3 yrs exp, should know programming well etc?
15:49.12Copesome lovely delis, good pubs, restaurants etc
15:49.26DiscordianUKSpent whole chunks of my life going to gigs in Kentish Town
15:49.48CopeMohan: basically we want an experienced sysadmin, preferably with experience of system automation eg puppet/chef
15:49.58antiphaseYou'd hope for a reasonably good person with some experience for 45 bags of sand
15:50.06DiscordianUKEasy for public transport
15:50.30Copeyeah - it's between tufnell park and kentish twon - 10 mins walk if you're dawdling
15:50.30antiphaseNot "I've done some websites in PHP and I've used Linux once"
15:50.42ChoHagchef?
15:50.53ChoHagIs that something like puppet but less sucky?
15:51.13CopeChoHag: config management lie puppet but rewritten, without luke's quirky DSL
15:51.15DiscordianUKI've heard of puppet not chef
15:51.24Copechef's a new kid on the block
15:51.26ChoHagExcellent.
15:51.29Copeentirely implemented in ruby
15:51.32ChoHagI've been looking for one of them.
15:51.41ChoHagWell I suppose it can't be all good.
15:51.41Copedefitely worth alook
15:51.49antiphase#gllug, replacing Google for 10 years
15:51.57Copegrins
15:52.10ChoHagThat language is ... wrong.
15:52.13Copeibot google for chef
15:52.21ChoHagConsidering the ruby fanboyism, I thought I was the only oneq.
15:52.41ChoHagThey could have chosen a better name though.
15:52.57CopeChoHag: we use ruby extensively, and the main 'product' is rails
15:53.02ChoHagIf I google for puppet, I find loads of theatre stuff. No doubt googling for chef will find stuff mostly about food.
15:53.04antiphasefails
15:53.06CopeChoHag: yes! its a rubbish name!
15:53.36antiphasehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_open_source_configuration_management_software
15:54.13antiphaseLinked from the first Google result for "configuration management"
15:55.37ChoHagMy googlefu is awful.
15:56.26ChoHagOh well it'll have to wait.
15:56.49ChoHagI'm playing with virtualisation first.
15:57.39Copes/virtualisation/my bollocks/
15:57.56Copewell... ot *my* bollocks
15:57.58Copeerm
15:58.04Copeanyway
15:58.13Copenice weather, for september
15:58.56ChoHagshrugs
15:58.59ChoHagIt's something to play with.
15:59.20cpufreakChoHag: you're not familiar with virtualization?
15:59.25ChoHagIt's that or I've got to figure out why libtool is breaking my openwrt cross-compile.
15:59.35ChoHagcpufreak: Yes.
15:59.46ChoHagI'm just messing around with fringe stuff.
16:03.15DiscordianUKrealises that I've seen an ad for the job Cope mentioned
16:07.47wethrincpufreak: No, I'm a stinky postdoc now
16:32.43halican shitey redhat cluster service use nfs as quorum?
16:33.21halidoesn't look like it
17:38.51ChoHagInteresting.
17:39.13ChoHaginit= passes the of the rest of the string to the command
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18:45.46DiscordianUKwb
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21:22.24z00daxwoo!
21:26.42Armandw00?
21:26.53z00daxwooooe
21:26.59ArmandYeeeeeeeeees???
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22:34.48Armand\o/
22:35.04ArmandI FINALLY found a manual for my motherboard...
22:35.09ArmandSodding NEC/ECS..

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