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| 07:14.29 | hali | morning |
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| 07:26.50 | morsing | Morning |
| 07:26.59 | morsing | Why doesn't libexpat exist for RHEL? |
| 07:45.33 | j0nr | morning all |
| 07:46.01 | morsing | j0nr! |
| 07:46.17 | j0nr | :) |
| 07:46.43 | morsing | j0nr: Where's wethrin? |
| 07:47.05 | j0nr | are there any particular programs thatt help you write those html, chaptered documentation manuals you see on the web? |
| 07:48.24 | morsing | j0nr: LaTeX |
| 07:48.35 | morsing | j0nr: It's latex2html |
| 07:56.05 | bilarh | that, of course, means you have to write the latex first :P |
| 07:56.16 | morsing | bilarh! |
| 07:56.21 | morsing | bilarh: Why are you ignoring me? |
| 07:56.23 | Leeds | or LyX? |
| 07:56.30 | morsing | Leeds: Yuck!! |
| 07:56.41 | morsing | Leeds: LyX probably still uses lates2html |
| 07:56.46 | Leeds | except that docs on the web are far far more likely to have come from docbook than latex nowadays |
| 07:56.49 | bilarh | morsing: why would i be ignoring you? |
| 07:57.04 | morsing | Leeds, bilarh: Please read j0nr's question again |
| 07:57.13 | morsing | bilarh: Maybe you don't like me? |
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| 08:08.19 | morsing | nixofortune! |
| 08:08.27 | nixofortune | he |
| 08:08.39 | nixofortune | morning |
| 08:38.45 | j0nr | morsing: thanks :) |
| 08:40.57 | morsing | j0nr: :) |
| 08:47.41 | morsing | j0nr: What did you have for breakfast? |
| 08:48.05 | morsing | Leeds: Haven't spoken to you in a while. How's work, woman, family etc? |
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| 08:54.40 | morsing | Leeds! |
| 08:55.10 | wethrin | libexpat? Is that a library for people who've left the country? |
| 08:55.46 | LeedsHK | wethrin: I joined a library in Israel, does that count? |
| 08:56.03 | wethrin | I suppose so |
| 09:08.35 | morsing | Muhammad! |
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| 09:46.50 | morsing | blight! |
| 09:47.50 | blight | I've asked in #rhel the following, possibly somewhere here knows - is it possible to hot clone a xen guest? |
| 09:48.22 | morsing | blight: dd? |
| 09:48.31 | morsing | Or try #xen |
| 09:50.17 | blight | morsing: good idea |
| 09:51.34 | wethrin | dd wouldn't hot clone - isn't the idea that you can clone one while it's running (i.e. data may be changing?) |
| 09:51.48 | cpufreak | blight: no |
| 09:52.14 | cpufreak | you need to suspend or halt it to clone it at least with xen enterprise 5.5 |
| 09:53.50 | cpufreak | xen is crap tho, doesn't do jumbos. |
| 09:53.54 | cpufreak | does my head in. |
| 10:01.20 | blight | cpufreak: okay thanks |
| 10:02.26 | morsing | blight: What's for tea? |
| 10:02.32 | hali | it's ok for basic application containers.. not for io intense workloads |
| 10:02.44 | hali | rhel54 and kvm performs pretty good though |
| 10:02.47 | hali | so better to use kvm |
| 10:03.09 | morsing | kvm?! lol :) |
| 10:03.29 | hali | morsing: have you tried it and done benchmarks? |
| 10:04.22 | morsing | hali: Not quite the same thing. Xen is virtualisation creating servers in a server, not just switching your screen to look at different seperate servers |
| 10:04.37 | hali | uhm |
| 10:04.55 | hali | kvm as in kernel-based virtual machine |
| 10:05.32 | hali | the default virtualization technology in rhel54 |
| 10:05.49 | hali | and the best hypervisor with the best performance for linux vm's |
| 10:06.17 | hali | with rather poor management tools so far, but still |
| 10:06.39 | LeedsHK | hali: remember that morsing is ignorant of any technology released in the past 10 years or so, particularly if it's not in AIX |
| 10:15.57 | blight | well it's my understanding that Xen still out performs KVM on paravirt guests ... ? |
| 10:20.09 | morsing | Beer |
| 10:21.50 | cpufreak | blight: your understanding is wrong. |
| 10:22.12 | cpufreak | also virtualbox is not that far behind kvm |
| 10:25.29 | blight | cpufreak: I was thinking about http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=623&num=1 |
| 10:25.36 | blight | cpufreak: seems that's pretty old though |
| 10:25.42 | blight | cpufreak: things have moved on I guess |
| 10:26.07 | cpufreak | yes 2 years is along time in vitual speak |
| 10:26.09 | cpufreak | EMC did well floating vmware when it did. |
| 10:26.24 | cpufreak | seeing as everyone now sees how crap it is |
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| 10:55.38 | blight | cpufreak: you aware of any more recent comparisons? |
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| 15:08.42 | Armand | Hi all. :) |
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| 16:27.24 | Mohan | nope, I know only porridge :) |
| 16:27.33 | Armand | lol |
| 16:27.42 | Mohan | oops wrong window! |
| 16:28.11 | Armand | ^_^ |
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