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| 07:06.01 | bilarh | morning |
| 07:25.24 | j0nr | morning |
| 07:36.57 | Mohan | morning all |
| 08:46.31 | hali | morning |
| 08:46.39 | hali | hm, Dag leaving centos |
| 08:57.45 | z00dax | not really a bad thing |
| 09:20.55 | mtd | really? for where? |
| 09:20.58 | mtd | should jfgi |
| 09:22.19 | bilarh | my wrist is really hurting lately |
| 09:22.48 | bilarh | like a sharp pain whenever i move it around |
| 09:22.51 | bilarh | such as type on a keyboard |
| 09:23.38 | antiphase | Too much bishop bashing |
| 09:24.29 | bilarh | hmm no definitely not too much of that lately |
| 09:24.35 | bilarh | i'm almost 30 you know |
| 09:25.00 | wethrin | you old git |
| 09:25.30 | wethrin | Sounds like RSI. Get a medical certificate and take a couple of weeks off work |
| 09:25.35 | bilarh | i think it's when i have to "backspace", i end up bending my wrist in some weird way |
| 09:26.35 | wethrin | Get a better keyboard |
| 09:26.46 | wethrin | Mention the magic letters RSI, and they should be falling over themselves |
| 09:27.11 | bilarh | hehe i might do that |
| 09:29.21 | bilarh | maybe i should start using vi-mode in bash etc |
| 09:29.27 | bilarh | it seems a bit more "wrist friendly" |
| 09:30.56 | bilarh | although not as quick as emacs mode of course |
| 09:30.56 | wethrin | It'll also stop anyone else using your computer |
| 09:30.57 | bilarh | good :) |
| 09:32.08 | antiphase | Get a decent mouse as well |
| 09:32.46 | antiphase | I bought an ergonomic jobbie recently. Wasn't cheap, but it reduces hand strain a lot |
| 09:34.18 | bilarh | aha, you're an old git too? :P |
| 09:34.46 | antiphase | 31 presently |
| 09:35.54 | bilarh | i suppose we've both been typing for the best part of 20 years by now then |
| 09:36.35 | antiphase | I bet it's your mouse hand that's broken |
| 09:36.41 | bilarh | yeah it is |
| 09:37.33 | antiphase | I brought my own mouse in to work because the one that was provided was designed to be held by a small child that doesn't have a bunch opf bananas for a hand |
| 09:38.21 | bilarh | i bet h&s would have something to say about that here |
| 09:38.41 | bilarh | nevertheless, i shall mention "rsi" to the desktop team and see what tehy say |
| 09:39.07 | ChoHag | Hehe. Pimp from a long time ago called me about the job I've already got an interview for. |
| 09:39.38 | antiphase | Tell them you need a desktop assessment, followed by a huge monitor and a new £1000 chair |
| 09:40.46 | ChoHag | According to the list a trackball is the in thing. |
| 09:40.47 | bilarh | i've got two huge monitors already, but the chair sucks donkey balls |
| 09:41.49 | Leeds | yeah, one of the reasons I like to work at home is that I have a much nicer chair there |
| 09:42.00 | ChoHag | Then you shouldn't let donkeys sit on them. |
| 09:57.31 | hali | anyone interested in buying a core2duo machine in a "media style" chassis? used to be my mythtv box |
| 09:57.46 | hali | moving house, i need to get rid of loads of old crap |
| 09:58.05 | bilarh | hali: aha, what flat did you go for in the end? |
| 09:58.17 | hali | bilarh: 99.99% sure im moving to maida vale on sunday :) |
| 09:58.31 | hali | just north of paddington/notting hill |
| 09:58.37 | wethrin | yay |
| 09:58.43 | hali | yaya! |
| 09:58.44 | bilarh | nice |
| 09:58.48 | bilarh | better than camden for sure |
| 09:59.11 | hali | i quite liked kentish town though, but we couldn't find a flat nice enough for my gf |
| 09:59.39 | hali | anyway, im quite pleased about maida vale too |
| 09:59.52 | hali | sorry, maida hill(tm) ... they are "rebranding" the area |
| 10:01.18 | wethrin | ew |
| 10:15.59 | ChoHag | After nearly 3 months, my lawyers have contacted me to ask whether I'm paying for our house with cash or a mortgage. |
| 10:18.58 | antiphase | Tell them it will be a sports bag full of used tens and twenties |
| 11:04.10 | ChoHag | eugh. Moving is expensive. |
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| 11:29.02 | yaMatt | cool! |
| 11:29.23 | antiphase | k-rad |
| 11:29.38 | yaMatt | indeed |
| 11:29.50 | yaMatt | i just love how everything i want is on freenode |
| 11:30.51 | antiphase | Beer and hot women? |
| 11:32.06 | yaMatt | channel does not exist |
| 11:32.15 | yaMatt | unfortunately not :( |
| 11:32.25 | yaMatt | but almost everything |
| 11:32.39 | yaMatt | youll be pleased to know, i rate you along with beer and hot women though |
| 11:33.27 | yaMatt | i signed up for the mailing lists |
| 11:33.32 | yaMatt | not sure which one though |
| 11:37.02 | yaMatt | not really used mailing lists before |
| 11:40.04 | wethrin | you poor fellow. You're in for a bit of a surprise with the Gllug list |
| 11:40.30 | yaMatt | oh dear |
| 11:40.45 | wethrin | Just don't mention recruiters, top posting, or the war |
| 11:41.02 | yaMatt | dont mention the war? |
| 11:41.45 | Leeds | I mentioned it once, but I think I got away with it |
| 11:41.56 | wethrin | heh |
| 11:42.04 | yaMatt | heheh, ok, ill try to remember this |
| 11:42.26 | yaMatt | fawlty towers references are out then too i guess |
| 11:42.32 | wethrin | oh, that's probably fine |
| 11:43.21 | yaMatt | but whatever you do, dont mention the war |
| 11:43.43 | yaMatt | my old boss was a huge war buff and a geek |
| 11:43.49 | yaMatt | there must be a correlation |
| 11:44.24 | Leeds | also, with people who use the word 'correlation' in casual conversation |
| 11:45.04 | wethrin | causality! |
| 11:46.54 | yaMatt | maybe, like that guy from wood green who was fascinated with UFOs so hacked the pentagon |
| 12:07.25 | bilarh | kicks wethrin in the nuts and runs off! |
| 12:07.27 | bilarh | there, sucker |
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| 12:07.41 | wethrin | git |
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| 12:07.54 | bilarh | :) |
| 12:07.56 | wethrin | git |
| 12:08.13 | bilarh | just trying to liven things up a bit |
| 12:08.30 | wethrin | heh |
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| 13:10.05 | z00dax | hears an icecream van |
| 13:11.10 | yaMatt | oo... get me one |
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| 13:12.48 | wethrin | What, an icecream van? |
| 13:12.59 | z00dax | the owner might object. |
| 13:13.03 | yaMatt | yes, a whole ice cream van |
| 13:13.10 | z00dax | :D |
| 13:13.42 | yaMatt | put a flake in it and ill eat it |
| 13:14.02 | mtd | yaMatt: bash.org |
| 13:14.47 | yaMatt | oh, you wont see that accepted for months, or not at all :) |
| 13:15.12 | mtd | notes http://bash.org/?894592 |
| 13:15.39 | wethrin | mtd: It's pending moderation |
| 13:16.08 | yaMatt | qdb gets through them better sometimes |
| 13:16.24 | yaMatt | but because theyre run by americans i bet they wont know what a flake is :) |
| 13:21.34 | mtd | wethrin: I know. |
| 13:22.32 | mtd | yaMatt: get to work on that, then. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=flake&defid=1990099 |
| 13:23.09 | yaMatt | hahah, i love urban dictionary, every single entry is something to do with sex |
| 13:27.51 | mtd | in case anyone is interested in an OLPC UK get together: http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/olpc-uk/2009-June/000246.html |
| 13:28.13 | dick_turpin | shoots at yaMatt here too :-) |
| 13:28.43 | ChoHag | I find it amusing that we go to such great lengths to give kids without electricity laptopts but nobody gives me one. |
| 13:28.55 | yaMatt | dick_turpin, ha! |
| 13:29.22 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Oi wobble bottom what you up to? |
| 13:31.36 | wethrin | Ew, OLPC |
| 13:32.04 | mtd | ChoHag: luckily most kids in the UK have electricity, so OLPC UK's plans need not worry about that. Getting their schools to understand Windows != computer is a different matter. |
| 13:32.29 | mtd | wethrin: :P |
| 13:33.24 | wethrin | I've seen them. They're ugly. |
| 13:33.33 | wethrin | Maybe they're designed so no-one wants to nick 'em |
| 13:33.51 | mtd | wethrin: I get that a lot from the "didn't OLPC switch to windows" crowd. Luckily that's not an issue. |
| 13:33.57 | mtd | wethrin: they are :) |
| 13:34.20 | mtd | pictures african dictator trying to type on tiny keyboard |
| 13:34.59 | wethrin | did olpc switch, then, or what? |
| 13:35.04 | wethrin | doesn't keep up with these things |
| 13:35.13 | mtd | btw when's the next gllug meeting? |
| 13:35.24 | mtd | wethrin: no, they didn't |
| 13:35.29 | dick_turpin | wethrin: Yeah they did an Asus and dropped Linux |
| 13:35.41 | wethrin | When someone organises it |
| 13:35.52 | wethrin | Linux on EeePC has its faults |
| 13:35.53 | bilarh | dick_turpin, what's up |
| 13:35.53 | mtd | wethrin: but they lost a lot of cred for saying they'd offer dual boot |
| 13:35.57 | wethrin | And dammit, it really shouldn't have |
| 13:36.06 | wethrin | It's a poor show. A really poor show. |
| 13:36.16 | wethrin | I don't see the problem with offering dual boot |
| 13:36.23 | mtd | wethrin: yeah I thought most modern distros worked alright. |
| 13:36.29 | wethrin | It's a one LAPTOP per child thing. Not one LINUX install per child |
| 13:37.04 | mtd | wethrin: indeed. I think quite a few people saw it that way. |
| 13:37.16 | bilarh | wethrin: classical mistake from you, you're not very Stallmanesque, are you? :) |
| 13:37.22 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Nothing just haven't insulted you for a couple of days plus I lay awake at night worrying about you and your employment status |
| 13:37.36 | bilarh | didn't :P |
| 13:38.57 | wethrin | bilarh: No, I think Stallman's a bit of a twat |
| 13:39.51 | dick_turpin | wethrin: You can only say that due to Stallman's efforts of freedom ;-) |
| 13:40.00 | wethrin | uhhuh |
| 13:40.31 | z00dax | humm i think the whole 'dropping linux' thing is mostly noise - they have the option of not using linux for some countries - but most olpc still ship with linux |
| 13:40.31 | bilarh | oltp seems a perfect opportunity to give them free (libre) software at the same time |
| 13:40.32 | wethrin | No, due to his efforts I can be on IRC.............no, wait. I'm on a Windows machine, ssh'ed via PuTTY to an OpenBSD box |
| 13:40.36 | wethrin | running irssi |
| 13:40.38 | wethrin | HELO GNU |
| 13:40.50 | bilarh | s/oltp/olpc/ :D |
| 13:40.55 | z00dax | i think the bigger thing was that they didnt want to have their own os, that no one else is wanting to contribute into and cant use anywhere else |
| 13:41.15 | dick_turpin | wethrin: trust you to do it the most convoluted way |
| 13:41.21 | wethrin | heh |
| 13:41.24 | mtd | z0infact all deployments use linux, and all forseen ones. |
| 13:41.28 | wethrin | this means I can IRC from ANYWHERE |
| 13:41.57 | dick_turpin | wethrin: That's just showing off ;-) |
| 13:42.01 | wethrin | heh |
| 13:42.04 | wethrin | and? |
| 13:42.19 | wethrin | just because you're too old for this logging on to remote machines lark |
| 13:42.40 | wethrin | runs |
| 13:43.54 | dick_turpin | rips one of bilarh's lardy legs off and chases wethrin down the road in an attempt to beat him with the soggy end |
| 13:45.05 | bilarh | wethrin: back in his day, irc messages had to first be coded, then transferred onto punch cards by hand before they could be sent |
| 13:45.40 | bilarh | by mail |
| 13:46.08 | dick_turpin | Ha I can top that you pathetic pair of wannabes |
| 13:47.40 | dick_turpin | My 1st job was for EDF Mann (Tower of London, Sugar Quay) I was a messenger ran around the city all day with a leather pouch delivering letters etc. So that pre dates IRC and Email :-P |
| 13:49.15 | bilarh | blimey |
| 13:49.22 | bilarh | i don't know anyone else who is as old as you :) |
| 13:49.36 | wethrin | The Queen? |
| 13:49.41 | bilarh | did you have to call everyone "guvernor"? |
| 13:49.51 | bilarh | yes, but i don't *know* the queen |
| 13:49.54 | dick_turpin | bilarh: And your not likely to either seeing as I've put a contract out on you |
| 13:50.00 | bilarh | she hasn't been on #gllug for ages |
| 13:50.52 | dick_turpin | bilarh: But but you're on here every day and your the biggest queen I know |
| 13:52.03 | bilarh | dick_turpin: your wife says hi |
| 13:52.38 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Brill, I'm moving house right now then |
| 13:53.10 | bilarh | :P |
| 13:53.45 | dick_turpin | bilarh: I give you three weeks, that'll wipe the smile off your face |
| 13:54.29 | dick_turpin | bilarh: I'll ring me mate and get your address so I can forward all that crap on |
| 14:02.56 | z00dax | man, its hot today |
| 14:03.39 | bilarh | is busy disabling accounts for laid off people :) |
| 14:04.07 | dick_turpin | bilarh: When do you get to your own? |
| 14:05.55 | bilarh | not sure :) |
| 14:06.11 | bilarh | hopefully right before i get a huge redundancy package of 350 quid per year :( |
| 14:13.09 | dick_turpin | bilarh: It'll never happen your far too valuable |
| 14:13.41 | bilarh | of course |
| 14:13.48 | bilarh | i'm completely irreplacable here |
| 14:13.58 | bilarh | no-one else can match my coffee drinking skills |
| 14:18.20 | antiphase | How about their sleeping skills? |
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| 15:51.48 | Mohan | nope, just leaving tomorrow afternoon. am very much excited. |
| 15:51.57 | Mohan | nope, just leaving tomorrow afternoon. am very much excited. |
| 15:51.59 | wethrin | Mohan: Wrong channel! |
| 15:52.05 | Mohan | oops |
| 15:52.55 | Mohan | pls ignore the above statements. |
| 15:53.16 | wethrin | I did. |
| 15:53.17 | wethrin | :) |
| 15:53.44 | mindbendr | why twice? |
| 15:53.52 | mindbendr | are you excited that much. |
| 15:56.42 | Mohan | mindbendr: its the irssi split window option, i typed first time and didnt notice it went on the wrong window |
| 15:57.15 | Mohan | so typed again |
| 15:57.42 | Mohan | thanks. speak to u ltr. bye. |
| 15:57.46 | Mohan | oops |
| 15:58.46 | wethrin | ha |
| 15:58.47 | wethrin | :) |
| 16:00.08 | mindbendr | don't use split window then :D |
| 16:01.14 | Mohan | its so much easy to follow up multiple channels with split window. |
| 16:01.35 | Mohan | but its really a problem when you are in a hurry. |
| 16:02.29 | Mohan | anyways its time to go home. bye guys |
| 16:03.50 | mindbendr | I always use next-previous |
| 16:04.01 | mindbendr | to check quickly the channels |
| 16:04.31 | mindbendr | it's strange that I can't use x-chat or similar gui based irc client after irssi/epic/bitchx |
| 16:04.50 | mindbendr | i think i like the colors |
| 16:04.56 | mindbendr | oldschool |
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