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| 05:42.24 | ChoHag | May I just say that the handling of images in w3m in emacs is utterly crap. |
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| 09:36.39 | ChoHag | Wtf? Who pays a PHP developer 65K? |
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| 10:36.38 | ChoHag | It takes a lot of balls to tell someone you're a eunuch. |
| 10:36.50 | wethrin | er, yes |
| 10:37.00 | wethrin | Hey, for 65K *I*'d do PHP development |
| 10:37.51 | ChoHag | Oh I'd do the work, I just want to know who on earth would pay it. |
| 10:39.12 | wethrin | the big problem with PHP is that is makes it easy to do things badly |
| 10:39.45 | ChoHag | s/the/a/ |
| 10:39.53 | ChoHag | No I didn't, stupid bot. |
| 10:48.40 | hali | i'd probably pay that |
| 10:48.49 | hali | if i was in charge of a large php project that needed tidying up |
| 10:56.08 | ChoHag | How does fopen know which encoding you're using for the filename? |
| 11:14.39 | z00dax | apart from dabs / ebuyer - what are the other online stores that people buy stuff from ? |
| 11:14.50 | z00dax | I guess overclockers too |
| 11:15.20 | ChoHag | ccl |
| 11:15.25 | ChoHag | scam sometimes. |
| 11:15.39 | wethrin | aria |
| 11:15.41 | ChoHag | [sic] |
| 11:16.30 | z00dax | I ordered 2 hdd's from scan in mid 2007, they were delivered in a jiffy bag, with no packaging at all. one was dented from the top and never spun up, the other had a crack in the pastic on the side. took me 4 months to resolve issues :/ |
| 11:16.45 | wethrin | ew |
| 11:16.47 | z00dax | humm yes, aria as well |
| 11:17.12 | z00dax | they did say 'oem' packaging, but even that normally is a brown box, with 2 bits of sponge's |
| 11:17.37 | hali | ugh |
| 11:17.41 | hali | jiffy bag for disks |
| 11:17.49 | ChoHag | Yeah scam are last choice only. |
| 11:17.59 | wethrin | I bought disks from ebuyer |
| 11:18.01 | ChoHag | Along with ebuyer and dabs. |
| 11:18.02 | hali | HP delievered a license key to us in a 3x3ft box :) |
| 11:18.14 | wethrin | heh |
| 11:19.38 | MrKen | z00dax: mini-itx.com are also good, albeit pricey for "regular" stuff |
| 11:19.40 | z00dax | I am looking for some generic rack rails and some disks at the moment |
| 11:20.23 | MrKen | quite likes Ebuyer for disks |
| 11:20.33 | MrKen | (assumign they stock what you want) |
| 11:20.54 | hali | could just use a proper reseller like softcat, they'll charge a little bit more but the service is good |
| 11:20.59 | ChoHag | Ebuyer are good for buying stuff, just not for sending it back. |
| 11:21.25 | MrKen | ChoHag: I've not had an issue - had a HD return to them last year |
| 11:21.42 | hali | hm, converting a 27meg table it innodb generates over 3gb of disk i/o |
| 11:21.52 | z00dax | ouch |
| 11:21.53 | MrKen | ChoHag: They were pretty poor in the past, but I think things have improved |
| 11:22.10 | z00dax | do you have large values for innodb extend ? |
| 11:22.53 | hali | it's a bugzilla db, series_data, two ints' and a date :S |
| 11:23.07 | hali | hm, i'll check |
| 11:23.57 | hali | it's just a default centos 5 mysql install actually... may be worth tweaking that a bit |
| 11:24.30 | z00dax | specially if you have more than a gb of ram |
| 11:24.45 | hali | 512meg vm :P |
| 11:24.48 | hali | im skimping |
| 11:25.50 | hali | just setting up a dev environment as i have to port my flags changes from 2.22 to 3.x |
| 11:26.22 | hali | i've added an extension that allows flags to be set to various values... instead of just fixed / not fixed ... we've got fixed in main, fixed next upgrade, needs ui change etc |
| 11:26.54 | hali | trying to see if i can replace some of that with custom fields in 3 |
| 11:27.10 | z00dax | prolly can |
| 11:27.44 | hali | i hope so, porting is a pain.. we have loads and loads of custom reports as well.. pending on the flags |
| 11:27.55 | hali | if i can use custom fields the built in reporting will probably be enough |
| 11:52.41 | hali | hm, the custom fields sql schema implementation is not great |
| 11:52.50 | hali | adds a table per fields and column to the bugs table |
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| 13:12.10 | antiphase | I keep getting password reminders from the mailing list server despite not being subscribed |
| 13:16.55 | z00dax | maybe you are subscribed but only have set-delivery-off ? |
| 13:17.09 | z00dax | either that, or something is broken somewhere |
| 13:23.59 | antiphase | I can't log in with the passwords in the mail, so I think something went wrong |
| 13:27.23 | z00dax | i think Chris Bell is one person who could look, there might be others, but he does have the right mailman auth |
| 13:28.11 | Dominic | I still get notifications too from another gllug.org.uk to an old e-mail address that was unsubbed at some point |
| 13:28.47 | Dominic | dnuk3.ukfsn.org appears to be generating it, while mailman.ukfsn.org generates the ones for my current address |
| 13:30.04 | antiphase | UK Fucked Software Network |
| 13:35.31 | wethrin | I can look |
| 13:35.43 | wethrin | antiphase: Would you like your address to be removed from the list? |
| 13:36.06 | antiphase | Well all I get is password reminders, so you might as well |
| 13:36.15 | wethrin | Okay. What's your address? |
| 13:36.27 | antiphase | anthony.newman@ossified.net |
| 13:37.12 | wethrin | Nope... |
| 13:37.16 | wethrin | you're not on the Gllug list |
| 13:37.57 | antiphase | Must be some backup server still running then, as I see the same as Dominic suggested |
| 13:38.06 | wethrin | you're not on the Social list either |
| 13:38.18 | wethrin | This may explain why I get two mailing list reminder messages |
| 13:38.36 | wethrin | Jason must've forgotten to remove mailman |
| 13:42.18 | ChoHag | He's apparently been preoccupied recently with family matters. |
| 13:42.30 | wethrin | sure |
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| 14:43.32 | ChoHag | Why does libxml2 use an unsigned char instead of a char? |
| 14:44.10 | antiphase | Extra bit to play with when you don't need negative numbers? |
| 14:44.29 | ChoHag | But a char has all 8 bits already. |
| 14:44.35 | ChoHag | Whether or not it's signed. |
| 14:45.03 | ChoHag | It just makes it confusing when you're working with another library which uses regular chars. |
| 14:46.31 | antiphase | They did it wrong then |
| 14:46.42 | antiphase | It makes a difference if you happen to be doing arithmetic operations on them |
| 14:46.42 | ChoHag | Well that wouldn't be surprising, it is a gnome project. |
| 14:47.25 | antiphase | You shouldn't be thinking in terms of chars anyway these days, because characters aren't guaranteed to be 1 byte wide if you're not condemning your users to ISO-8859 |
| 14:47.45 | ChoHag | It uses utf-8. |
| 14:48.48 | antiphase | Precisely |
| 14:49.50 | ChoHag | A char fits a utf-8 string happily though. |
| 14:49.59 | ChoHag | Assuming your bits are no more than 8 bytes. |
| 14:50.21 | ChoHag | And your data doesn't become malformed. |
| 14:51.14 | antiphase | A utf-8 string is composed of bytes of course, but the characters can be two bytes long |
| 14:51.30 | antiphase | So a char is no longer a character, as it were |
| 14:51.40 | ChoHag | Well char in my head always translates as byte anyway. |
| 14:51.48 | antiphase | It is in C, that's why |
| 14:52.08 | antiphase | You can't treat a UTF-8 string as an array of byte-sized characters is all |
| 14:52.48 | ChoHag | I don't, I treat is as an array of byte-sized thingies, where 1 or more thingies happens to be a character. |
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