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| 07:20.24 | bilarh | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6EYrqIn0yI made me chuckle |
| 08:27.04 | ChoHag | experience in: Solaris 8, 9 and/or 10 Sun Red Hat Linux. |
| 08:27.10 | ChoHag | Solaris Sun Red Hat Linux eh? |
| 08:27.16 | ChoHag | Yeah I think I've got that. |
| 08:27.56 | bilarh | "check" :) |
| 08:28.06 | bilarh | is that your old job recruiting? :D |
| 08:28.38 | ChoHag | Heh no. They use Suse and Windows. |
| 08:29.00 | bilarh | hmm, you really did work for us, didnt' you? :S |
| 08:29.04 | ChoHag | With each team fighting for supremacy. |
| 08:29.25 | bilarh | "check" |
| 08:30.00 | ChoHag | Hmm not much on offer this morning. |
| 08:45.32 | Leeds | ITYM Oracle Solaris 2.8 |
| 09:30.39 | ChoHag | Hmm do I want to work in Marlow? |
| 09:30.56 | ChoHag | Recruiter just called who knows the people I just left. |
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| 09:44.11 | mindbendr | hi |
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| 10:15.45 | ChoHag | I wish these people could agree. |
| 10:15.57 | ChoHag | Sometimes my CV is too long, sometimes it's too short. |
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| 10:41.39 | ChoHag | 'The role is slightly different to the spec attached' |
| 10:41.42 | ChoHag | Sounds promising. |
| 10:57.06 | AndyMillar | heh |
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| 11:08.52 | j0nr | good afternoon |
| 11:12.54 | mindbendr | ChoHag: looking for a job? |
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| 11:57.29 | z00dax | whats the job market like these days ? |
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| 12:02.37 | ChoHag | Aye. |
| 12:06.03 | dick_turpin | z00dax: Dunno but I want bilarh to get me a job at his place |
| 12:12.00 | ChoHag | Is the google G1 worth it? |
| 12:12.18 | ChoHag | Also, is an 18 month contract a particularly bad idea? |
| 12:12.20 | AndyMillar | heh |
| 12:12.26 | AndyMillar | i want to work where ChoHag works at some point |
| 12:12.31 | AndyMillar | just to validate how bad it is |
| 12:13.00 | ChoHag | worked |
| 12:13.03 | ChoHag | You really don't. |
| 12:13.14 | AndyMillar | you actually quit? |
| 12:13.37 | ChoHag | Regrettably not. |
| 12:13.41 | AndyMillar | :/ |
| 12:14.09 | AndyMillar | what sort of jobs are you looknig for? |
| 12:14.30 | ChoHag | The type that pay me and don't make me work with morons. |
| 12:14.39 | dick_turpin | apparently bilarh does bugger all all day and gets paid zillions for it |
| 12:14.53 | ChoHag | Sounds good. |
| 12:15.00 | AndyMillar | http://www.careerbuilder.co.uk/UK/JobSeeker/Jobs/JobDetails.aspx?IPath=JRKCV&APath=2.21.0.0.0&job_did=J7X5ZL66SV5F48LWJ8V |
| 12:15.39 | AndyMillar | might be an interesting one, dunno if that meats exp. and salary expectations :p |
| 12:16.00 | ChoHag | Hmm maybe four day old cheese sauce wasn't such a good idea... |
| 12:16.47 | AndyMillar | probably not |
| 12:16.50 | ChoHag | AndyMillar: Manglement and me don't get on. |
| 12:17.13 | AndyMillar | ah |
| 12:17.40 | AndyMillar | team lead != manglement |
| 12:17.47 | mindbendr | how's having a salary around 50-60K make a difference comparing to 35-40K when you consider the tax rates? It looks like that would only help 600-800 pounds. |
| 12:18.07 | ChoHag | Close enough. I prefer doing actual work even if not paid so much. |
| 12:18.18 | dick_turpin | Hm I could probably do that, it makes no mention of any actual coding abilities just emphasise management skills |
| 12:18.30 | AndyMillar | it's systems not dev |
| 12:18.43 | AndyMillar | so you won't necessarily need to code |
| 12:18.44 | ChoHag | Doesn't make mention of any admin skills either. |
| 12:19.42 | AndyMillar | hmm, it is a lot of manglement i suppose |
| 12:19.43 | ChoHag | But all that aside, I couldn't work for a gambling company anyway. |
| 12:19.47 | AndyMillar | i wonder who that reports to |
| 12:19.50 | AndyMillar | ChoHag: howcome? |
| 12:20.00 | ChoHag | Ethics. |
| 12:20.21 | AndyMillar | what do you disagreee with? :) |
| 12:20.24 | ChoHag | I compromised them to work in banking and look what it cost me. |
| 12:22.28 | AndyMillar | is interested :) |
| 12:24.17 | AndyMillar | also, if you don't object with agencies, I had a good experience with Hannah Field at Client Server |
| 12:24.51 | ChoHag | I despise agencies but am forced to be pragmatic about it. |
| 12:25.12 | AndyMillar | want her details? :/ |
| 12:25.23 | ChoHag | What kind of details? |
| 12:25.38 | AndyMillar | name, date of birth, address, chest size :-p |
| 12:25.45 | AndyMillar | or in reality, email address / phone number :) |
| 12:26.17 | ChoHag | Oh they're only down the road. |
| 12:26.39 | AndyMillar | :o |
| 12:27.09 | ChoHag | Like about 5 minutes away. |
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| 13:04.29 | dick_turpin | wethrin: Oi |
| 13:15.10 | ChoHag | Linus and Stallman both have asteroids named after them. |
| 13:16.07 | dick_turpin | Friend of my wife has just paid to have two stars named after her mum and dad |
| 13:17.04 | dick_turpin | I'm thinking of doing something similar, I mean how you gonna check up on it? |
| 13:17.04 | bilarh | pass me her number, i have some options for moon house plots to sell |
| 13:17.27 | ChoHag | dick_turpin: Selling or buying? |
| 13:18.44 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Oh they went the whole hog, had a newspaper printed (Don't know which one) that had the front line story "Stars named after ....." which a background story on each parent |
| 13:18.56 | dick_turpin | with |
| 13:18.56 | bilarh | oh for crying out loud |
| 13:19.29 | dick_turpin | bilarh: I'd have thought you'd of understood after all its a Woman thing :-P |
| 13:23.24 | bilarh | i've just got a second email about swine flu from the HSE bods |
| 13:24.04 | ChoHag | WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE! |
| 13:24.05 | bilarh | still, it provides a legitimate break from staring at the big brother screen, i suppose |
| 13:24.19 | bilarh | as would dying |
| 13:24.35 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Don't panic, I saw the news this morning, the government has it all under control they've ordered 30 million face masks apparently |
| 13:25.01 | ChoHag | Why, incidentally, are we all panicking over the flu? |
| 13:25.36 | ChoHag | A flu, incidentally, named for an animal which hasn't caught it. |
| 13:25.39 | bilarh | chohag: provides a welcome break from labour ministers expense claims for the press, i suspect |
| 13:25.43 | dick_turpin | ChoHag: Cos its a Swine to get rid of. TaDa! |
| 13:25.49 | boudiccas | lol |
| 13:26.16 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Did you like that honey bun :-) |
| 13:26.26 | bilarh | oh get a room for gods sake |
| 13:26.35 | dick_turpin | bilarh: We did :-P |
| 13:26.37 | boudiccas | yes, i thought it was very appropriate |
| 13:27.43 | ChoHag | Can you set an environment variable (or apt/dpkg option) which makes invoke-rc.d a no-op? |
| 13:27.59 | bilarh | on a separate note, my gearbox has started squealing like a pig when letting the clutch go... i wonder if it's caught swine flu |
| 13:28.31 | ChoHag | Because oddly enough it's conceivable that I'd want to install software without running it straight away. Especially when said software is designed to bork my system in interesting ways. |
| 13:29.20 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Either that or you have some illegal pig immigrants hiding in the box |
| 13:30.31 | bilarh | no illegal immigrants in my car |
| 13:30.47 | bilarh | the police checked it over at portsmouth |
| 13:30.55 | bilarh | travelling with brown people in the car is such a chore |
| 13:31.10 | bilarh | alwas get "random" checks |
| 13:31.37 | ChoHag | Well you shouldn't have any brown friends, should you? |
| 13:31.58 | dick_turpin | bilarh: I'd have thought that was par for the course with you seeing as you look like a drug pushing pimp :-P |
| 13:32.01 | ChoHag | I mean if you're going to cavort with criminals what do you expect? |
| 13:32.31 | bilarh | then i annoyed the pig by telling my brown passengers that it was a chore to travel with them because of their colour |
| 13:32.48 | bilarh | and by that time he ordered me to open my boot |
| 13:33.01 | bilarh | so i pressed the unlock button and said it's unlocked, look yourself |
| 13:33.08 | bilarh | bastards the lot of them |
| 13:33.18 | ChoHag | Cavorting with criminals and disobedience to your overlords? |
| 13:33.20 | ChoHag | Tsk tsk. |
| 13:33.21 | bilarh | someone pass me a napkin, i'm foaming at the mouth again |
| 13:34.11 | bilarh | i don't even know what's wrong with me |
| 13:34.16 | bilarh | he was obviously just trying to do his job |
| 13:34.18 | dick_turpin | pulls a heavily soiled hanky out of his pocket |
| 13:34.24 | bilarh | but i just really can't stand it |
| 13:34.49 | bilarh | at least he wasn't wearing a brown shirt |
| 13:34.57 | bilarh | probably would have been arrested for making nazi comments :D |
| 13:35.03 | ChoHag | This country is being turned into a hellhole by people who try to just do their jobs. |
| 13:35.50 | bilarh | i suppose turning up at the ferry port with a matt black car with random graffiti down the side didn't exactly help my case :D |
| 13:36.17 | dick_turpin | No this country is turning into a hellhole by people not doing any sort of job and expecting others to bail them out |
| 13:36.35 | bilarh | now now, i have asked for work before and not been given any |
| 13:37.31 | bilarh | the one thing i can't stand is all these bloody foreigners coming to this great country and then complaining about it non stop |
| 13:37.39 | ChoHag | That too. |
| 13:37.41 | bilarh | why don't they just go home, for crying out loud ;) |
| 13:38.06 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Thats rich coming from you! bwahaha |
| 13:38.15 | bilarh | dick_turpin: :-D |
| 13:38.24 | bilarh | i think i'm allowed, as i'm a foreigner |
| 13:38.31 | bilarh | if you said it, however, you'd be branded a racist |
| 13:38.37 | bilarh | although maybe that'd happen to me as well :) |
| 13:39.03 | bilarh | loses the plot |
| 13:39.31 | dick_turpin | bilarh: I know, I saw a guy on the TV the other night use the N word you could here a pin drop "Its OK I'm black I'm aloud to say it" |
| 13:39.57 | bilarh | :D |
| 13:40.02 | bilarh | it's interesting isn't it |
| 13:41.10 | bilarh | the ones i can't stand are the swedes, however |
| 13:41.15 | bilarh | i don't know what it is, but they're all smug fuckers |
| 13:42.06 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Not really, its just yet another pressure we all have to live under, the fear that one day you let your guard down. For most people they're just throw away words like idiot, moron etc. but if it slips out your suddenly in a world of doggy doo doo |
| 13:42.57 | bilarh | it's completely dumb |
| 13:43.05 | bilarh | i mean if someone calls me a fat white pig |
| 13:43.09 | bilarh | i don't really give a toss :D |
| 13:43.13 | bilarh | because it's true |
| 13:43.22 | bilarh | however, some people would be up in arms about it |
| 13:43.34 | bilarh | and not necessarily the person who got called a fat pig in the first place |
| 13:43.36 | dick_turpin | Bald headed old fart? |
| 13:43.44 | bilarh | no that'd be you not me |
| 13:43.56 | dick_turpin | bilarh: I know you fat swede |
| 13:44.18 | bilarh | calls the evening press |
| 13:44.32 | dick_turpin | Oh crap, the thought police have just screeched to a halt outside my window |
| 13:44.32 | bilarh | anyone got the number for the guardian handy? |
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| 13:45.06 | bilarh | dick_turpin: do something double plus quickly |
| 13:45.17 | dick_turpin | Christ they're beating me now |
| 13:45.24 | dick_turpin | Oh wait |
| 13:45.55 | dick_turpin | Apparently it was the word swede I should have used a capital S Swede |
| 13:46.09 | bilarh | heh |
| 13:46.10 | bilarh | e |
| 13:46.20 | bilarh | noone cares about abusing the Swedes :( |
| 13:46.45 | dick_turpin | bilarh: They do at that club you took me too |
| 13:47.39 | dick_turpin | If the activity's that was going on there is not abuse I don't know what is |
| 13:49.04 | bilarh | funny that ldv are allowed to go into administration, but not a bank, no sir! |
| 13:49.30 | bilarh | even though ldv probably employ several thousands indirectly |
| 13:49.55 | bilarh | it's not right for the tax payer to support it by giving it a miniscule, in comparison to banks, loan |
| 13:50.13 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Stuff em they've lived on handouts for 40 odd years to my knowledge |
| 13:50.25 | bilarh | and so will the workers from now on :) |
| 13:50.39 | bilarh | dick_turpin: please tell me you've signed the "gordon resign" petition? :) |
| 13:51.57 | ChoHag | Do I want to work in Brighton for £35k? |
| 13:51.58 | ChoHag | Uh no. |
| 13:52.04 | dick_turpin | bilarh: No the workers will go on a 2 week course and emerge as fully qualified Sysadmins thus flooding the market with real quality low paid IT experts |
| 13:52.30 | bilarh | ah, is this where all "it experts" come from :D |
| 13:55.54 | dick_turpin | Oh god yeah, have you seen the Adds on the TV? "Guaranteed £30.000 job at the end of your training |
| 13:58.57 | boudiccas | dick_turpin, count me in for that job/training. where do i apply? |
| 13:59.51 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Next time the adds on I'll write down the number for you |
| 14:00.30 | boudiccas | thanks, if i get the job at the end of it i'll be able to afford my own tv :) |
| 14:00.44 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Then you can apply for bilarh's job that'll save them around £100.000 plus |
| 14:01.48 | boudiccas | only if he leaves the job open for me first. i wouldnt want to tkae his job away from him |
| 14:02.04 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Na stuff him ;-) |
| 14:02.07 | boudiccas | vacates the job is what i mean to say |
| 14:19.54 | ChoHag | With sed can you 'perform this substitution or, if it isn't done by the end of the file, append this line'? |
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| 15:24.17 | ChoHag | Is it common to extend a debian package from version 'x-1' to 'x-1+me1' or 'x-1me1'? |
| 15:52.47 | z00dax | x-1 -> x-1.1 would be a good plan |
| 15:53.01 | z00dax | that way if/when a x-2 comes out you can rebase upto x-2.1 |
| 15:53.34 | z00dax | either that or I completely misunderstood what you just said |
| 16:27.44 | ChoHag | If I use x-1me1 I can then use x-2me1, and likewise +me1 |
| 16:46.25 | z00dax | ChoHag: yea, a tag in there is a good idea too |
| 16:46.51 | z00dax | although some argue that overloading release to identify such stuff is wrong. personally, I do it all the time |
| 16:58.07 | ChoHag | Yeah well they're wrong. |
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| 19:27.26 | rhowe | hm, is it just me or are Nortel gigE PoE switches quite cheap? |
| 19:48.10 | cup | mm |
| 20:00.02 | hali | what's Nortel? :) |
| 20:00.13 | hali | they went tits up, wouldn't expect much warranty from them |
| 20:00.26 | hali | just get some 2960's |
| 20:00.41 | hali | if it's for desktop usage |
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