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08:43.40j0nrmorning all
09:05.14ChoHag"BCR1390 is not correct, the screen is showing 2006 dates, please advise?"
09:05.28ChoHagAdvise? What kind of advice do you want?
09:10.47sabinef72morning all
09:14.18Leedsbon soir sabinef72
09:14.29Leedsooh, actually I had a question for you
09:14.59Leedssabinef72: if I wanted to fly from Paris to Malaga, any advice on where to find cheap flights?  or what airline to look at?
09:15.31sabinef72iberia
09:15.46Leedsbetter Iberia than a French airline?
09:15.50sabinef72yes
09:16.03Leedsthanks
09:16.12sabinef72when I went in malaga 2 years ago, I used Iberia
09:16.27Leedsah, personal experience, excellent :-)
09:16.40sabinef72French airline are more expensive because you can have drink, eat....
09:16.50sabinef72Iberia if you want to eat, you have to pay
09:17.06LeedsI am planning to go to Spain in the summer with my gf, and I'm trying to work in a day in Paris on the way, so fly to Paris overnight, then fly to Malaga the next night
09:17.28sabinef72you should have a look on ebookers.com
09:17.57sabinef72from HK or UK ?
09:17.57Leedsoh, also, I now have a new HK visa :-D
09:18.24sabinef72London - Paris then Paris - Malaga ?
09:19.26Leedser, no
09:19.34LeedsHong Kong->Paris, then Paris->Malaga
09:20.00sabinef72waooooo a long long trip !
09:20.04Leedsyes
09:20.30sabinef72rest a "good" night in Paris should be a good idea
09:20.34Leedsbut Air France are one of the cheaper airlines from Hong Kong to Europe, so I thought it sounded cool to do a day in Paris
09:20.40sabinef72HK - Paris : 10 hours ?
09:20.45Leedsproblem with a night is that it's expensive, need a hotel
09:20.50Leedsprobably more like 12
09:21.04Leedsin Malaga we have my parents' apartment
09:21.04sabinef72depends what you want to do
09:21.14sabinef72only sleep, or sleep +visit ?
09:21.19Leedsvisit
09:21.31Leedswe'll sleep in Spain :-)
09:21.46sabinef72no sleep in a hotel in Paris ?
09:22.47LeedsAir France fly similar times to the UK airlines, so the plane arrives in from Hong Kong around 6am... if we can get a flight to Malaga at, say, 8pm, that would get us to Spain to sleep, but let us have a day in Paris
09:23.16Leedshmm... Iberia is not direct
09:24.08sabinef72well it was direct for me : Paris - Malaga !
09:24.27sabinef72will you arrive at Charles de Gaulle (CDG) or Orly ?
09:24.33Leedsdunno
09:24.37sabinef72we have 2 big airports in Paris
09:24.53z00daxhow big ?
09:24.56sabinef72CDG is far away from Paris center but you can take a special train (RER)
09:24.57z00dax<---> big ?
09:25.17sabinef72Orly is less far than the first one, but you have a special train also
09:25.36sabinef72z00dax: I dunno how to say... but very very big !
09:25.45Leedsbigger than Heathrow?
09:25.52Leedsbigger than a breadbox?
09:25.57sabinef72I never went in Heathrow
09:26.07Leedsthen you are a very lucky woman :-)
09:26.18sabinef72bigger than Malaga's airport ! that's sure !
09:26.33sabinef72but less than the stupid Madrid's airport !
09:26.42Leedsyeah, Malaga is small... I never went to Madrid
09:26.58LeedsI would also ask about Gibraltar, but I know nobody flies there from Paris...
09:27.54sabinef72when I went to south of america, my flight for Paris arrived to a gate (I don't remember the number) and my flights for Santiago de Chile was at the opposite...
09:28.07sabinef72it took me 50 min to go there !
09:29.07sabinef72do you ever been in Paris Leeds ?
09:29.18sabinef72have you ....
09:29.20Leedssure, a few times - I like it
09:29.29Leedsbut by train, recently, of course
09:29.29sabinef72and your gf ?
09:29.38Leedsno, she's never been to Europe at all
09:29.55sabinef72train is a good avantage because the train station is already in paris' center
09:30.25Leedsyeah
09:30.29sabinef72so you have to see usual monuments
09:30.44sabinef72like eiffel tour ...
09:31.07Leedsshe isn't that much of a sightseer - she wants to see the tower, and the Arc de Triomphe, because we saw models of them at a theme park in China
09:31.18ChoHagsabinef72: From the above conversation I gather you're French so, what do you know about the French visa process?
09:31.22ChoHagDoes it suck as much as ours?
09:31.50sabinef72yes I'm french and living in Paris
09:32.10sabinef72I need a visa only once, to go to China
09:32.39sabinef72I have to go to the ambassade, do papers, pay (of course), wait 2 weeks
09:32.53ChoHagSo as far as you're aware your foreign office equivalent is actually nice?
09:33.03sabinef72yes
09:33.05ChoHagI thought that until we started working on a visa for my now wife to come here.
09:33.07Leedsonce I have my HK visa activated (I have it, but you have to leave HK and enter with the new visa for it to be activated) I then need to get a new China visa
09:33.11sabinef72I didn't need visa for europ
09:33.29LeedsChoHag: where's she from - or rather, what passport does she have?
09:33.33ChoHagUkraine.
09:33.37sabinef72and when I went to south of america or Thailand, I didn't need a visa because I staid less than 3 months
09:33.43ChoHagSo getting pretty much anywhere is impossible.
09:34.20ChoHagAlthough now she's an Englishman's wife so things should begin to get easier.
09:34.24ChoHagEventually.
09:34.32sabinef72but she can go everywhere in Europ, true ?
09:34.33Leedsapparently HK/China passports are pretty good - enough that my gf is willing to give up her UK passport (because a renewal costs so much) and just use her Chinese one
09:34.48ChoHagNo.
09:34.52ChoHagJust the UK.
09:35.06sabinef72Leeds: for my chinese visa, I paid around 60 euros
09:35.23LeedsI'm talking about an unlimited-use 1 year one :-)
09:35.35sabinef72Oh I see
09:35.46sabinef72mine was for only one enter in China
09:35.52sabinef72but I didn't need a visa for HK
09:36.05LeedsI don't need a visa to enter HK, but I do need one to live and work here
09:37.00Leedsalthough in practice you can easily live here for a year or more as a 'visitor' - particularly on a UK passport which gives 6 months stay at a time
09:38.51sabinef72I want to visit China again !!!!!!!!!!
09:39.15Leedscome back to HK and we'll take you for a lovely massage and shop in Shenzhen :-)
09:39.24ChoHagI want to visit China for the first time.
09:39.46LeedsI want to... be a tree
09:39.55sabinef72Leeds: next time I'll go to my friends' house near Ghanzhou
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09:40.13Leedsyou're not coming to visit me????
09:40.16ChoHagChina, Japan and India are three countries I'd especially like to visit.
09:40.19Leedserev tov cityLights1
09:40.24sabinef72Ukraine is in Europ so why is she needing a visa ?
09:40.28cityLights1wo you are quick
09:40.45LeedsI haven't been to Japan or India, but I have been to Sri Lanka
09:40.48ChoHagGeographically but not politically.
09:40.48LeedscityLights1: yes, I am :-)
09:40.52sabinef72Leeds: because from Ghanzhou to Hong Kong, I need to take boat... and last time I was sick during 3 hours !!!!!!!
09:40.56cityLights1I all alone at home, I want my baby...
09:41.11Leedsah... so we should come visit you instead?
09:41.20sabinef72Leeds: better idea :D
09:41.29Leedssure, just let me know when
09:41.38sabinef72when Julie will be taller
09:41.38cityLights1aint sabinef the guy I am soppose to pul his nose?
09:41.54Leedseither that, or lunch in Paris on (approximately) 19th July :-)
09:42.11sabinef72of course !
09:42.11ChoHagPolitically it's independent with close ties to Russia.
09:42.12cityLights1ok, what ever, I now want to compress alot of videos that are the caluculus 1 lectures
09:42.34ChoHagDon't compress them, just buy a bigger hard drive.
09:43.03cityLights1so I am using the x264 encoder and mencoder , yet need to find a clear way to tell the output file name
09:43.36LeedscityLights1: are you using mencoder to encode?
09:43.52cityLights1yes
09:44.15Leedsso what's the problem with the filename?
09:44.18ChoHagDo we still not have a good free software gui transcoder?
09:44.39Leedshandbrake is actually pretty good at transcoding, and I think there is a Linux gui
09:45.08cityLights1so the dvd rips are at /home/user/funf/17 .. 18 etc
09:45.34cityLights1yesterday I got this line to use with pwd VIDEOOUT=`pwd|cut -d/ -f4,5|tr / .`
09:45.57Leedser... what?
09:46.03Mohanmorning all
09:46.12sabinef72hi Mohan
09:46.14cityLights1I initail used  VIDEOOUT=$PWD|cut which didnt work - ovcourse
09:46.21z00daxwe plan on being in Paris at sometime this summer as well
09:46.38Mohanhi sabinef72
09:46.54Mohanhi z00dax
09:46.59z00daxhey Mohan
09:47.05cityLights1Leeds: I need to have a var named VIDEOUT that will have the name of the output file mencoder generates accoring to the directory name
09:47.30Leedsoookay
09:47.35Leedsis there one file in each directory?
09:48.04cityLights1now I also want to put .mp4 at the end, can't I just do +".mp4" like in java?
09:48.19cityLights1no Leeds there are 1-3 files
09:48.46Leedsif the filename is in variable $FOO, you can just do ${FOO}.mp4
09:49.11cityLights1later I would also like to run the script from /home/user/funf and have it step in to each subfolder and run mencoder there
09:49.32cityLights1Leeds: right I forgot
09:50.20cityLights1is this legal? VIDEOOUT={`pwd|cut -d/ -f4,5|tr / .`}.mp4
09:50.57Leedsno
09:51.13Leedsbut maybe you want to use $(pwd...).mp4
09:52.58cityLights1VIDEOOUT=$(pwd|cut -d/ -f4,5|tr / .`).mp4 dont work :-(
09:53.01sabinef72cityLights1: are you "mother" or "father" ?
09:53.10Leedshow doesn't it work?
09:54.15cityLights1sabinef72: I need to register to msg yu,
09:56.35cityLights1Leeds: my bad - it works
09:57.08cityLights1now, how to run it from root and have it generate an output in each dir?
09:57.20Leedsah, well, that's where things get complicated
09:57.45cityLights1mabe do a for loop and use cd
09:57.53Leedsyes, of course
09:57.54sabinef72cityLights1: sorry I don't understand
09:58.05cityLights1yet its only 5 dir so I may do it manually
09:58.23sabinef72cityLights1: you talked about your baby
10:00.37Leedssabinef72: er... I think that's a lady-friend 'baby' not a young child one
10:01.31sabinef72ohhhhhhh sorry !
10:01.59sabinef72yes ... baby !
10:02.08sabinef72:D
10:02.40cityLights1right I ment my SO
10:02.57cityLights1ya ya it is a USA lingo
10:03.13cityLights1do you have this word in french?
10:03.21sabinef72cityLights1: sorry I'm french, and I know my english is not so good
10:03.33sabinef72yes we used it sometimes
10:03.41Leedsmon cherie
10:03.46Leedsor some such :-)
10:03.46cityLights1:-)
10:03.51sabinef72mon chéri, ma chérie
10:04.04sabinef72but sometimes we also say : bébé or baby
10:04.19sabinef72but it's more for teenagers !
10:04.26Leedsah-ha
10:05.14cityLights1ok, I am back to reading calculus
10:05.30cityLights1I should really get from page 49 to 200 soon
10:05.49cityLights1btw, I am not that young
10:05.59sabinef72bye
10:06.02cityLights1yet I seem to act as such sometimes
10:09.10ChoHaghttp://notalwaysright.com/customer-knows-best/646
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10:42.19ChoHagWhat do you call someone who's constantly trying and failing to edge into a conversation that's nothing to do with him.
10:42.22ChoHag?
10:45.46wethrinA twat. HTH HAND :)
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10:47.33ChoHagHe always tries to sound like he knows what he's talking about, too.
10:52.17wethrinreiterates :)
10:52.50ChoHagheh
10:57.23ChoHagWhat storage/compression algorithm did they use in [our backup software]
10:57.30ChoHagPffft they're not going to tell us that.
10:59.58wethrinprobably gzip
11:00.04wethrinSorry, Lempel-Ziv
11:01.14ChoHagThe network lusers and database lusers are arguing over who does the compression and deduplication.
11:02.18wethrinLeave them to it
11:02.22ChoHagAye.
11:02.39ChoHagOur machines are all, mostly, rebuildable without the backups.
11:02.50ChoHagOr would be if our autobuild system wasn't shit.
11:05.57wethrinFix it? :)
11:09.18ChoHagI'm not allowed to.
11:09.23ChoHagEveryone says it works.
11:09.42ChoHagWhich it does, if you spend a few hours banging your head against a wall before every machine build you do.
11:09.56ChoHagAnd then carefully watch it to fix the parts of the process that don't work.
11:11.04ChoHagBut fuck it. I've got no reason to stay here except that I don't yet have anywhere else to go.
11:13.23ChoHagAlso I think not using lotus will be a requirement for wherever I end up.
11:17.03wethrinIt's better than Exchange
11:21.43ChoHagExcept for email.
11:24.28wethrintrue
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11:31.48ChoHagExchange comes a close second in hate but is managable.
11:33.31ChoHagIs it normal for a 2.6.(i think)5 smp kernel to crash with only 1 cpu?
11:34.54wethrinno
11:36.20ChoHagI blame suse then.
11:36.45ChoHagI know that's like 'blaming' the 3 year old for spreading chocolate all over the wall, but I blame them anyway.
11:36.45xteddysmiles
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13:26.07z00daxlooking cold out there, not sure if snow will happen or not
13:34.30ChoHagCold?
13:34.34ChoHagIt looks hot.
13:37.54j0nrdepends where you're looking from
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13:50.34ChoHagOnly two joy-filled hours of work remaining.
13:55.52mindbendrChoHag: leaving early?
13:56.32mindbendror have a specific joy-filled work to do
14:01.27ChoHagI have to write a report on the performance testing we've been doing.
14:01.33ChoHagAnd I'm on the early shift this week.
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14:59.23mindbendrit's the good thing about working in the small companies, you don't have to write any reports even do any performance tests.
15:03.00ChoHagNot doing performance tests is not a good thing.
15:03.18ChoHagNot writing reports on them, however, would be a very good thing.
15:03.52cityLights1can anyone here comment on graphic cards and OVERLAY?
15:04.14ChoHag/* Graphics cards and overlay */
15:05.17cityLights1is there a diffrence with the overay feature between nVidia 5200 and 6200?
15:06.08ChoHagIf I answered, I'd only be telling you what google told me.
15:13.23ChoHagBugger me is it only 3:15?
15:13.29ChoHagMy how time crawls when you're having fun.
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20:18.10toshiba510cdti have a booting delay problem on my ancient Pentium 133 MHz laptop running Lenny. can anyone help me? details are to be found on  http://pastebin.ca/1350201
20:19.01toshiba510cdti mean during the booting process hangs for 2 minutes solid before continuing. i did NOT have that problem with etch so it NOT because the machine is old
20:19.30toshiba510cdtplease see also http://pastebin.ca/1350408
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21:17.05kjsghetto kit
22:12.46toshiba510cdtsee also  http://kerneltrap.org/node/8306  and tried all possible solutions decribed there but the problem remains the same
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