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09:35.57 | Mohan | Good Morning! All. |
09:36.16 | Cope_ | hi |
09:38.49 | Mohan | hi Cope |
09:38.58 | hali | yo |
09:39.27 | Mohan | hi hali |
09:59.11 | bilarh | morning |
09:59.18 | bilarh | damn i aws late today |
09:59.26 | bilarh | 9:19, latest i've ever been |
09:59.34 | bilarh | never mind, nothing to do anyway :) |
10:39.31 | bilarh | jeez, it's really expensive to book holidays now isn't it |
10:39.35 | bilarh | damn pound again |
10:46.29 | nixofortune | morning |
10:50.31 | bilarh | oh man what a write off yesterday aws |
10:50.35 | bilarh | i didn't even leave the house |
10:50.50 | bilarh | i opened the door once to get my takeaway delivery |
10:58.43 | bilarh | i'm not sure if i can take the busyness in here today :( |
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11:27.56 | morsing | Leeds! |
12:04.22 | wethrin | bilarh: Let yourself back into the world of work gently |
12:43.04 | bilarh | i wish i had some work to do to be honest |
12:55.28 | kinko | working from home, brings in the year slowly |
12:59.59 | morsing | nuzzle kinko |
13:03.20 | kinko | stupid servers from around the world, trying to bother me so early in year :Z |
13:03.39 | morsing | Beer |
13:04.14 | kinko | run empty |
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13:18.41 | morsing | rhowe! |
13:18.56 | morsing | rhowe: We're just back from the experimentarium |
15:33.27 | rhowe | morsing: hey |
15:33.32 | rhowe | morsing: Cool - we never made it there |
15:33.53 | rhowe | morsing: Louisiana was good though, and we went up to Helsignor afterwards and had dinner in a cafe there |
15:35.29 | morsing | rhowe: Losers |
15:35.40 | morsing | Louisiana-- |
15:35.45 | morsing | Experimentarium++ |
15:36.06 | morsing | I sincerely hope you saw Holger Danske? |
15:36.33 | morsing | Otherwise visiting Helsingoer without seeing Hoger Danske------------------- |
15:36.42 | morsing | Holger |
15:39.15 | morsing | rhowe: Why are you ignoring me? |
15:39.23 | rhowe | Holger Danske? |
15:39.30 | rhowe | It was pretty dark when we got there |
15:39.33 | morsing | rhowe: Oh my god... You're serious? |
15:39.43 | rhowe | we just wandered the shopping streets for a bit and found somewhere to eat |
15:40.02 | morsing | Ermm... Hardly worth going to Helosingor for that |
15:40.19 | rhowe | well, we had free transport |
15:40.35 | morsing | http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holger_Danske |
15:40.35 | rhowe | and thought we may as well head up there to say we travelled around a bit :P |
15:40.55 | morsing | Still, you went to Helsingor without visiting Kronborg and Holger Danske----- |
15:41.11 | rhowe | morsing: heh, yes :P |
15:41.29 | rhowe | We went to Cafe Olai and had some pickled herring instead :P |
15:43.53 | morsing | rhowe: *sigh* My dad's silly browser won't let me use Google.com or co.uk |
15:44.26 | morsing | rhowe: Please Google Kronborg - you've missed out on one of Denmarks most famous things despite being right next to it |
15:44.41 | rhowe | morsing: We saw where it was on the map and decided it was too far to walk :P |
15:44.56 | morsing | rhowe: It wasn't - totally worth it |
15:45.03 | rhowe | morsing: Even at night? |
15:45.32 | morsing | They close at 5 I think but it's indoor so day or night doesn't matter |
15:45.45 | rhowe | morsing: Ah well it was well after 5 when we were there |
15:45.57 | morsing | You could have gone earlier |
15:46.03 | rhowe | We could |
15:46.17 | rhowe | but as it was we spent most of the afternoon at Louisiana |
15:47.04 | rhowe | We went to Rosenborg Slot and saw the crown jewels |
15:47.12 | morsing | That's nice |
15:47.26 | rhowe | and went into Kastellat (sp?) |
15:47.30 | rhowe | and up to the mermaid |
15:47.37 | morsing | Cool - only been outside, never inside |
15:47.42 | morsing | Kastellet |
15:48.00 | rhowe | hm, where else.. had breakfast at La Glace |
15:48.14 | morsing | Breakfast?!?! |
15:48.19 | morsing | Ermm... :) |
15:48.26 | morsing | Hopefully you had cake? |
15:48.35 | rhowe | we did |
15:48.41 | morsing | Sportscake? |
15:48.53 | rhowe | as well as going to the HC Anderson cake shop next to Tivoli |
15:49.01 | morsing | Lovely |
15:49.02 | rhowe | hm, not sure what cake we had actually |
15:49.11 | morsing | Sportscake ftw |
15:49.19 | rhowe | we bought all of one of their cakes :P |
15:49.24 | rhowe | a large danish pastry type thing |
15:49.24 | morsing | lol :) |
15:49.27 | rhowe | in an 'L' shape |
15:49.28 | morsing | yuck |
15:49.31 | rhowe | they only had two :P |
15:49.35 | morsing | Pastry != cake |
15:49.39 | morsing | Vandkringle |
15:49.46 | rhowe | Yeah, kringle |
15:49.48 | morsing | OR some type of kringle |
15:50.09 | morsing | You did have proper cake there though, right? |
15:50.15 | rhowe | er, no :P |
15:50.20 | rhowe | just pastry and coffee :P |
15:50.21 | morsing | *siiiiiiiiiigh* |
15:50.48 | morsing | So you went to Helsingor and missed the point, then went to La Glace and missed the point |
15:50.54 | morsing | You needed a better guide |
15:50.57 | rhowe | hehe |
15:51.02 | rhowe | we lost the guidebook on the 3rd day :P |
15:51.17 | rhowe | although I think we saw it the next day in La Glace |
15:51.36 | morsing | http://copenhagendailyphoto.blogspot.com/2006/07/la-glace.html |
15:51.42 | morsing | Look for"Sports cake" |
15:52.13 | rhowe | hm, maybe I ate something similar to that |
15:52.28 | rhowe | it was a tube with a creamy filling and chocolate at both ends |
15:52.29 | xteddy | smiles |
15:52.34 | morsing | http://www.laglace.dk/sortiment/sportskage |
15:52.40 | morsing | No - look kat the photo |
15:52.44 | morsing | look at... |
15:52.53 | rhowe | ahh |
15:52.57 | rhowe | mm |
15:53.08 | morsing | Danish cake != British "cake" |
15:53.41 | rhowe | oh and we had breakfast at somewhere beginning with 'z' near Stroget |
15:53.55 | morsing | ... |
15:54.00 | Mohan | That cake looks really good.. |
15:54.30 | morsing | Mohan: Tell rhowe he's a twat when I'D BLOODY TOLD HIM TO GO FOR THE SPORTS CAKE!! |
15:55.26 | rhowe | :P |
15:55.37 | morsing | wethrin: ping |
15:55.38 | rhowe | has booked accommodation for FOSDEM today |
15:55.41 | Mohan | morsing: no worries, i have noted it in my diary when i go there i will make sure ill have it :d |
15:55.47 | wethrin | morsing: hi |
15:55.54 | wethrin | rhowe: Good man. Where you staying? |
15:56.16 | morsing | wethrin: Beer/cake/cheese trip to CPH this summer? We'll introduce rhowe to Sports cake |
15:56.17 | rhowe | wethrin: Four Points by Sheraton |
15:56.23 | rhowe | wethrin: Just south of Louise metro |
15:56.58 | wethrin | morsing: Potentially, yes. I'll have to do some money-saving before that, though |
15:57.06 | morsing | wethrin: Skip FOSDEM |
15:57.37 | wethrin | morsing: No. I've already booked it. |
15:57.37 | morsing | rhowe: You up for that? |
15:57.37 | morsing | wethrin: !! Without me? |
15:57.38 | wethrin | rhowe: Mm. I'm staying at one of the Novotels |
15:57.38 | wethrin | morsing: Yep. You didn't want to come |
15:57.38 | morsing | wethrin: How's Toby? |
15:57.40 | wethrin | fine |
15:58.03 | morsing | Toby > Sports cake |
15:58.36 | morsing | rhowe < Holger Danske |
15:59.47 | morsing | rhowe: ping |
16:00.19 | rhowe | pong |
16:01.13 | morsing | 15:57 < morsing> rhowe: You up for that? |
16:01.25 | rhowe | morsing: Ah |
16:01.31 | rhowe | morsing: Hm, potentially |
16:01.44 | rhowe | morsing: I think I would combine it with a trip to .se and potentially Berlin too |
16:01.59 | kjs | yo |
16:02.53 | morsing | kjs: Beer |
16:09.02 | rhowe | OK, school's out |
16:09.07 | rhowe | is off to the pub |
16:11.10 | morsing | Bye... |
16:17.39 | morsing | wethrin: Why did boudiccas leave? |
16:17.46 | wethrin | sigh |
16:17.50 | wethrin | Read the quit message |
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16:24.00 | morsing | boudiccas! |
16:24.14 | boudiccas | morsing! |
16:24.19 | morsing | boudiccas: Why's wethrin upset? |
16:24.30 | boudiccas | no idea |
16:24.38 | wethrin | sigh |
16:24.51 | wethrin | I'm not upset. |
16:25.04 | wethrin | I'm very rarely upset. |
16:25.11 | wethrin | What I do get, however, is irritated with stupid questions. |
16:26.18 | morsing | Beer |
16:43.12 | Mohan | i am getting a strange error with grub password, no matter what how many times i reset my grub password, when i enter the correct password at the grub prompt it says wrong in opensuse11.1 |
16:43.27 | morsing | Beer |
16:43.57 | wethrin | Did you forget to save changes? |
16:44.47 | Mohan | i changed the password manually with grub-md5-crypt and manually pasted in the menu.lst file |
16:45.45 | Mohan | just to makesure i am editing the right file i used the coloroption for the grub menu to the same file and it works, it just the password option isn't working |
16:46.36 | morsing | Beer |
16:46.40 | Mohan | it use to work earlier without any issues, its just the update to 11.1 is screwed up in many ways. |
16:47.13 | Mohan | morsing: whats your favorite beer ? |
16:47.30 | wethrin | I haven't used SUSE for years |
16:49.02 | morsing | Mohan: Don't have one |
16:50.13 | Mohan | grub works the same, independent of distribution i suppose. |
16:50.33 | Mohan | morsing: ok |
16:50.44 | wethrin | Yeah, it should do |
16:50.57 | wethrin | Actually, all programs should work the same, independent of distribution |
16:51.45 | Mohan | but distributions tweaks the programs in one or the other way which creates issues. |
16:52.04 | Mohan | but with the grub there is nuthing big there to tweak. |
16:52.22 | wethrin | Is there much point in passwording grub? Is this on your laptop? |
16:53.35 | Mohan | wethrin: yes its my laptop, and i have like dual linux / vista installed i normally keep all options locked other than the standard first option |
16:54.08 | Mohan | so incase even if someone gets my laptop they cant reinstall the os unless they manage to reset bios password |
16:54.55 | wethrin | They can reset the BIOS. Or, more likely, they'll just sell it 'as-is', or bin it. |
16:57.01 | Mohan | wethrin: well atleast that make sures that though they steal it they cant use it as easy as they would have thought. |
16:57.20 | morsing | Beer |
16:58.10 | wethrin | morsing: Please add something *useful* to the conversation |
16:58.35 | wethrin | Mohan: True. I assume you keep backups of your data, then, just in case |
16:58.36 | morsing | Beer |
17:00.07 | Mohan | wethrin: yeah i do have a copy of some of the important works. |
17:00.51 | Mohan | morsing: i was just wondering you keep saying beer quite often and you dont have a favorite brand? |
17:01.07 | wethrin | he just likes getting attention |
17:01.20 | morsing | wethrin: No, I hate attention, you know that |
17:01.36 | morsing | Mohan: People who know stuff rarely have favourites |
17:01.54 | wethrin | wonders how many really paranoid people who password every bit of their system don't actually back up their data |
17:01.55 | morsing | If you have a favourite, you're ignorant |
17:02.00 | wethrin | Rubbish |
17:02.06 | boudiccas | spitfire from shepherd neames |
17:02.19 | Mohan | morsing: so you have added your name to people who know stuff ? |
17:02.36 | Mohan | adds his name to people who dont know stuff :) |
17:02.38 | wethrin | You can know things. Have favourite styles, and all that. And yet still have a beer that you would recommend to people if they asked. |
17:03.08 | wethrin | Or maybe if not one favourite, it's entirely reasonable to have 3 or 4 favourites |
17:09.35 | Mohan | wethrin: even if you dont backup the data the loss is just yours, but if you have like access details for other machines and if that machine is lost its really pain to reconfigure everything. |
17:10.33 | wethrin | You're assuming the person who stole your laptop is likely to care about accessing other systems. This is very unlikely. |
17:10.34 | Mohan | and if it gets in wrong hands whatever happens you stand for responsiblity |
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17:10.52 | wethrin | So you make passphrase-less ssh keys a firing offence |
17:11.07 | morsing | dick_turpin! |
17:11.25 | dick_turpin | morsing: :-) |
17:11.30 | morsing | Beer |
17:13.37 | Mohan | i wouldn't say that as a firing offence, but if you loose a laptop like that ofcourse it can be considered depending on the level of sensitive data accessible. |
17:15.11 | Mohan | wethrin: if nothing happens no one is bothered, but if something does happen thats where the issue is. |
17:15.11 | wethrin | If it's a computer with sensitive data, there should be no way in can be accessed without a password/passphrase |
17:16.20 | Mohan | yeah but no bios password, cd rom as first boot device, able to start it in single user mode eveything has to be locked as well. |
17:17.00 | wethrin | true |
17:21.49 | Mohan | i wonder how many people use passphrased ssh keys ? |
17:22.02 | morsing | Mohan: I suspect more people use beer |
17:22.41 | Mohan | morsing: i suspect more people use whisky |
17:22.48 | morsing | Nice |
17:24.05 | Mohan | morsing: i have got a simple question for you |
17:26.36 | Mohan | Is in anyway aix better than linux ? |
17:36.30 | wethrin | The question you have to ask is 'for what task'? |
17:41.04 | Mohan | wethrin: i asked in general, i havent worked with aix machines, just to know if there is any specific adavantage in using them . |
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17:46.46 | morsing | jpds! |
17:47.05 | morsing | Mohan: AIX is better in every way |
17:47.26 | morsing | And now I'm leaving - dinner with the Vittrups |
18:05.00 | hali | the one advantage with AIX is that it runs on power6 processors |
18:05.08 | hali | so you get kick ass performance |
18:05.21 | hali | so it's very low cost for high cost software |
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18:10.52 | Mohan | hali: Mac switched to intel series processor because the power serious processors couldnt handle demanding leopards processing requirements isn't that true ? |
18:11.09 | wethrin | No |
18:11.14 | hali | No |
18:11.35 | hali | power6 wasn't really suited for laptops |
18:11.45 | wethrin | Intel happened to make faster, cheaper, and lower power processors |
18:12.04 | hali | faster for end-users |
18:12.05 | hali | "multimedia" |
18:12.09 | Mohan | oh okie. |
18:12.12 | wethrin | And IBM weren't particularly interested in developing a PowerPC processor based on POWER6 |
18:12.26 | hali | power6 really kicks ass on database loads |
18:12.37 | hali | is researching Juniper routers / switches |
18:12.44 | wethrin | Disk IO is very important there, too |
18:13.54 | hali | ibm is usuall good at that too |
18:21.42 | ChoHag | 'The hasaddr function returns 1 if this address is included in any To:, Cc:, Resent-To:, or Resent-Cc:' <-- what earthly bloody good is that? |
18:22.17 | ChoHag | I want to know who it's FROM. I know who it's TO. It's to ME. |
22:10.10 | morsing | Beer |
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22:14.22 | morsing | rhowe_! |
22:40.24 | AndyMillar | mmh, this camalyn (sp?) guy's causing fun again \o/ |
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22:44.50 | morsing | andrew_! |
22:46.18 | morsing | G'night |
22:46.31 | AndyMillar | nn |