IRC log for #gllug on 20081230

00:00.10Nafallo13.3" beer o_O
00:00.16kjshali: i have a 13" macbook and a 17" dell
00:03.35kjsi use the dell more, macbook is better for train etc. apart from the fact the kkeys mak the screen when it's shut
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02:24.05gregjhttp://www.iers.org/products/16/11321/orig/bulletinc-036.txt
02:24.07gregjha!
02:24.12gregjzze french are behind it!
02:34.22Leedsit's a fiendish plot to make every clock on the planet break at the same time
02:36.09gregj:D
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06:10.40morsingLeeds!
06:11.07morsingAny APT experts here?
06:21.04morsingBeer
06:29.25morsinghali: Where is everyone?
06:39.19morsingHello?
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06:40.14morsingrhowe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
06:40.22morsingrhowe: Why are you ignoring me?
07:28.34morsingHello?
07:38.21AndyMillarbecause he might think you smell ;p
07:40.22Leedsmuch work is not getting done today
07:51.06morsingLeeds: *sigh*
07:52.42Leedsmorsing: what?
08:09.53morsingLeeds: http://www.articlesbase.com/networking-articles/common-courtesy-214180.html
08:11.16Leedsmorsing: fuck off...
08:12.05AndyMillargood morning :)
08:12.40morsingLeeds: Point proven...
08:12.43morsingAndyMillar: Morning...
08:14.25AndyMillari have had coffee now, so I might begin to be polite ;p
08:15.07AndyMillarthough I did have to find the coffee machine and put it together
08:15.20AndyMillarbut I do have an epicly strong coffee now
08:15.41AndyMillarwhich, after my parents insistance on *weak* coffee, is a welcome drink
08:19.04morsingAndyMillar: Your deepest, most severe rudeness stops before most people here even begin their politeness...
08:51.21halimorning
08:51.25haliis' cold
08:55.01morsingBeer
09:13.51ChoHagYay! 8 hours to sit an on office doing bugger all.
09:16.25ChoHagWhat's really sad is that there are people sitting here working hard.
09:16.47ChoHagNot just working, I mean even I'm going through my emails, but working hard.
09:18.54morsingChoHag: Try 8 months... not much fun
09:21.07ChoHagWell I think I'll start looking for a new one in the new year.
09:21.31ChoHagBy the time I get anything reasonable I should have a year here on my CV.
09:22.21ChoHagFor today, I'll polish up my nethack skills.
09:23.07morsingBeer
09:23.24morsingChoHag: Not sure the polish are necessarily better at nethacking
09:23.49Leedsgregj: ping?
09:25.14ChoHagI wouldn't know.
09:38.09morsingBeer
10:30.21ChoHagHow to read one piece of data from a file: cat ${EXEC_PATH}/bacsmail.dat | grep -v ^# | while read  mail_recipient
10:35.55ChoHagHow to log:
10:36.02ChoHagTIME_HH24=`date "+%H:%M"`
10:36.02ChoHagMSG="${TIME_HH24}: Checking input parameters"
10:36.02ChoHagecho $MSG >> $logfile
10:36.02ChoHagecho $MSG
10:38.12morsingNice
10:38.44ChoHagThis is quite a gem, too:
10:38.48ChoHagtrap "RETURN="INTERUPTED"; cleanup $RETURN" 1 2 3 15
10:39.09morsingSo is beer
10:40.00ChoHagBeer is not a gem.
10:40.02ChoHagBeer is a drink.
10:40.09morsingIt's a gem
10:40.57ChoHagWtf_
10:40.58ChoHag?
10:41.21ChoHagHalf an hour I've been wading through this pure excrement and all it does is end up calling another script to do the work?
10:41.58ChoHagNo, that's a binary.
10:50.50AndyMillarfucking idiot recruiters
10:50.53AndyMillar</rant?
10:50.56AndyMillars/?/>/
10:51.01AndyMillar\o/
10:52.04kjsmorning
10:52.10AndyMillarmornin
10:52.50kjshave to do some work today really
10:53.34kjsit's such an effort going back to work when you have been doing nothing for days
10:58.06ChoHagI don't know how to describe the idiot next to me.
10:58.29ChoHagHe likes to get involved with everything he overhears.
10:58.48ChoHagIt seriously winds me up because he has no idea about anything.
11:00.54ChoHagsighs
11:01.31ChoHagI don't know how many times I told him that the document he found describes something other than what we're working on, but he insisted on showing it to me again and again and then emailing it to me.
11:03.40kjsChoHag: http://lh4.ggpht.com/_dlkAw43cLC0/SSgRL66koDI/AAAAAAAAA_Y/l8nSAZMJcMo/s800/24-Retards.jpg
11:05.26ChoHagYes that pretty much sums him up.
11:06.05kjsmaybe you should tell him again its the wrong doc?
11:06.23kjsif he is working from the wrong docs all his work must be fucked?
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11:08.04kjsnixofortune!
11:08.14nixofortunekjs: ! )
11:08.22ChoHagNo, he's not working on it.
11:08.27ChoHagHe's just sticking hes nose in.
11:08.29ChoHaghis
11:08.33kjsohh
11:09.21nixofortuneChoHag: any good news from ukrainia?
11:09.27kjsthat is anoying, eventually  he will learn
11:09.35ChoHagThese days Ukraine is mostly bad news.
11:09.44nixofortunetrue
11:10.03ChoHagThough my wife's new visa finally turned up on Christmas eve, just in time to make no plans whatsoever.
11:10.35nixofortuneChoHag: what sort of visa? does she need any?
11:10.45kjsChoHag: you sound a bit pissed off today
11:10.48kjs?
11:11.21ChoHagnixofortune: Further Leave to Remain.
11:11.31ChoHagkjs: There is no point in being here.
11:11.57ChoHagI could be in bed with a warm wife.
11:12.24kjsyeah. cba to work this time of year either
11:12.25ChoHagThen ... actually I'll stop there.
11:12.38nixofortuneChoHag: did you find a job for your warm wife?
11:12.59ChoHagShe hasn't been allowed until this visa arrived.
11:13.12nixofortuneoh yeah
11:13.18kjschrist sakes... that twat next door, is sat on his drive running his motor bike with a sports can on it
11:13.28kjssuch a drone
11:14.42nixofortuneChoHag: find something to do for her or she will become bored and depressed
11:14.51ChoHagShe already is.
11:14.56nixofortuneI know
11:16.00morsingBeer
11:16.02morsingnixofortune!
11:16.15bilarhit's freezing outside
11:16.23nixofortunemorsing: !
11:16.28bilarhmy car showed -5 this morning
11:17.00nixofortunethis morsing's bot is very friendly. almost as good as xteddy.
11:17.47nixofortuneshall we call it xmorsing?
11:17.50morsingChocolate
11:17.50xteddysmiles
11:17.59morsingxteddy ftw
11:17.59xteddybbiab -
11:18.01bilarhjumps into nixofortune's lap and huggles and huuuuugz ]
11:18.03bilarh:)
11:18.14nixofortuneoh  errr moning morsing
11:18.32morsingxteddy: hug nixofortune
11:18.32xteddybounces into nixofortune's lap and huggles and *hugs*
11:18.32xteddy:)
11:18.37nixofortune))
11:19.14bilarh{{xteddy}}
11:31.05ChoHagDamn I almost got to go home - the only DBA in thought I was at home on the phone this week.
11:31.17ChoHagUnfortunately the holiday spreadsheet says otherwise.
11:37.10haliokay, so we have showers at work
11:37.27halinow this guy from our service desk has started going in to the shower for about 15 mins every day, around 11ish oclock
11:37.32haliand he's not having a shower
11:37.38kjscan i be arsed to get out of bed
11:44.58ChoHagNo.
11:45.35ChoHagWhy do so many websites have tiny fonts?
11:46.41antiphaseCan't say I notice, as I've set a minimum size in my browser
11:48.19ChoHagI tried but mozilla is crap.
11:48.27ChoHagIt works at home but it won't behave here.
11:49.09nixofortuneChoHag: Opera rules
11:53.34morsingBeer
12:06.04MohanIs there a way to hide a username from being displayed in the gnome login window ?
12:09.05antiphaseIt would be somewhat difficult to log in otherwise
12:12.34Mohani have like 2 accounts and i want only one to display there
12:13.05Mohanso thats not going to be an issue for me.
12:13.45antiphaseI didn't realise it had gone like Windows where you click on users. I've always had to type mine in
12:13.57nixofortuneMohan: you can change GDM Login theme
12:14.21MohanThis is with the new gdm in fedora10/opensuse11.1
12:15.52nixofortuneGo to http://gnome-look.org and peek up nice gdm theme
12:16.14kjsantiphase: it has been that way for a while
12:16.46antiphase"Welcome to Open Source, where the developers are too stupid to not just copy Windows and OSX"
12:17.07kjspretty much
12:17.17kjsits just a mix of both
12:17.26kjsgui wise
12:18.37ChoHagholds his fvwm close
12:20.26kjsi just use gnome
12:30.18ChoHagYou mean Windows.
12:55.16kjsnope
12:55.20kjsfedora atm
12:56.05kjswhich means i have to put up with yum.
12:56.10kjs:)
13:14.00morsingBeer
13:18.55boudiccassnuff
13:48.44Mohanmorsing!
13:53.23morsingMohan!
14:01.06Mohanwhats the best irc client to use ?
14:01.14Nafalloirssi
14:01.34morsingirssi
14:02.04boudiccasMohan; xchat
14:02.15morsingMohan: Don't listen to boudiccas
14:03.04NafalloMohan: Don't listen to boudiccas
14:03.19Mohani use irssi and i am happy with that, the only issue is if i keep compiz enabled the terminal redraws slowly.
14:03.47Nafallowhat terminal is that?
14:03.59Mohani use gnome-terminal
14:04.08Nafallohmm. weird.
14:04.12morsingcompiz?!
14:04.26morsingibot compiz
14:04.30Mohanit all started with the latest suse11.1 update
14:04.45NafalloMohan: I use Ubuntu and can't replicate.
14:05.14morsingMohan: I use beer and can't replicate
14:05.18Mohansometimes after typing the text i have to manually click on the window for it to refresh and show the screen updated.
14:05.28Nafallothat sucks
14:06.04Nafalloso how long does Play normally take to deliver then? ;-)
14:06.05Mohanyup :(
14:06.09Nafallowill 3 days be enough?
14:07.36Mohanif you switch through the channels opened in irssi, though you have switched to another window it would still show the same old channel screen
14:08.31Mohanwhen you click on the screen it gets refreshed.
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14:13.02boudiccasevening Leeds
14:13.10Leedshiya boudiccas
14:17.47ChoHagHave you tried alternative terminals?
14:18.22ChoHagIt sounds like a compiz bug but I'd never rule out a bug in a programme beginning with g.
14:20.05Mohanit happens only when compiz is enabled and it works fine when compiz is disabled
14:20.29morsingLeeds
14:20.31morsing!
14:21.16boudiccasmaybe compiz is using all your graphics capability and so irssi is having to steal spare cycles
14:22.36Mohani use irssi in a screen running on a remote machine.
14:22.44ChoHagI doubt it's irssi.
14:22.54ChoHaggnome-terminal and/or compiz.
14:23.10morsingAnd here's some help: http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/Compiz
14:23.14ChoHagMy money's on both, because if it was just gnome-terminal then the bug shouldn't be apparent.
14:25.00Mohanxterm seems to respond faster than gnome-terminal
14:25.06ChoHagLikely culprit is that compiz doesn't update changes it doesn't know about, and some fool of a gnome developer did something 'clever' in gnome-terminal.
14:25.20ChoHagFor some unconventional definition of 'clever'.
14:30.37Mohanyeah, compiz is more likely to be buggy.
14:46.59kjsand it makes windows wobble
15:00.13gregjwho what
15:05.11Leedsdoctor who?
15:07.29jpdsLeeds: Who?
15:21.04nixofortunemorsing: get your Christmas present.  http://pixplace.us/images/edf8bb45cac28f9dc7a8793ae09a1007.jpg
15:27.19morsingLeeds: http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff108/8secCHEVELLE/racecarpics1032.jpg
16:57.55morsingLeeds:
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17:17.50morsinglondo!
17:18.00morsingboudiccas: What's for tea?
17:49.21kjspasta for me
18:36.38morsingBeer
18:41.08nixofortuneblack chocolate with tea
18:41.09xteddysmiles
18:41.15morsing:))
18:41.28nixofortunemorsing: did you like the ring?
18:41.37morsingYes - very much :)
18:44.52nixofortuneyou will like this http://research.su/files/tuning/1.jpg
18:45.08morsingnixofortune: http://www.morsing.cc/photos/Jul2008/imm020.jpg
18:45.22morsingnixofortune: Cool!! :D
18:45.46nixofortunehttp://research.su/files/tuning/2.jpg
18:46.06morsingnixofortune: http://www.morsing.cc/photos/Jul2008/imm069.jpg  (House I grew up in)
18:46.22nixofortunenice
18:46.27nixofortunewhere is is?
18:46.44morsingRingkoebing
18:47.15nixofortuneSounds not very english to me
18:47.31morsing??
18:47.38morsingType in 6950 in Google maps
18:48.41nixofortuneDenmark
18:48.47morsingWell... yes?
18:49.10nixofortunelovely
18:49.18morsingNot at all :(
18:49.20morsingDenmark--
18:49.57nixofortuneso you are viking   :)
18:50.02antiphaseBacon farmer
18:50.10nixofortuneoh
18:51.03morsingRight
18:51.06nixofortunenew feature in google maps. Photos
18:51.11nixofortunenice
18:51.28morsingPhotos? Dude, that's old. Street view is the thing now
18:52.29nixofortuneright
18:53.29morsingWTF?!  6950 now gives me somewhere in Belgium?!?!?!  
18:53.38nixofortuneit's not available for your village
18:53.50morsingnixofortune: Where did you land with 6950?
18:54.02nixofortunehttp://maps.google.com/maps?client=opera&rls=en-GB&q=6950&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&um=1&sa=N&tab=wl
18:55.48nixofortunehttp://www.panoramio.com/photo/2954713 nice statue
18:57.41morsingnixofortune: That statue is gone...
18:58.00nixofortuneit was wrong decision
18:58.12nixofortunei like it a lot
18:58.41nixofortuneunique
19:00.06morsingnixofortune: This one was on the town square a while a couple of years ago:
19:00.40morsinghttp://www.morsing.cc/photos/Gustavs_barnedaab-summer2006/imm108.jpg
19:00.49morsinghttp://www.morsing.cc/photos/Gustavs_barnedaab-summer2006/imm107.jpg
19:00.56morsinghttp://www.morsing.cc/photos/Gustavs_barnedaab-summer2006/imm109.jpg
19:01.09morsinghttp://www.morsing.cc/photos/Gustavs_barnedaab-summer2006/imm111.jpg
19:01.20morsinghttp://www.morsing.cc/photos/Gustavs_barnedaab-summer2006/imm103.jpg
19:02.12morsinghttp://www.morsing.cc/photos/Gustavs_barnedaab-summer2006/imm138.jpg
19:02.49nixofortuneamazing
19:05.42morsing:)
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19:21.24morsingandrew__!
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23:50.04kjsgets a cold beer
23:58.15Nafallowarms it up for kjs

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