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| 09:37.40 | morsing | Armand!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 09:38.26 | Armand | Going. :( |
| 09:38.32 | Armand | but, mornings. ":) |
| 09:38.36 | Armand | later! |
| 09:43.40 | morsing | kisses antiphase' nose |
| 09:49.56 | morsing | You people sleep too much |
| 10:00.54 | ChoHag | I wish I did. |
| 10:01.06 | Leeds | me too |
| 10:01.17 | ChoHag | I'm lucky these days if I'm asleep after 7 AM. |
| 10:09.18 | morsing | ChoHag: "Lucky"?!! |
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| 10:37.22 | ChoHag | Hmm. |
| 10:37.46 | ChoHag | Risk, with a static page, possible bugs in Apache on our load balancers, or on our web servers? |
| 10:38.45 | hali | hm, this is silly, we suggested a client switch on the combined access_log in apache on their reverse proxy servers.. for an application that gets fewer than 100.000 hits a day and they have dual quad-core processors in the proxies but they still want us to provide "before and after" benchmarks of the performance of the app for doing so |
| 10:39.21 | hali | access_log is soooo scary |
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| 12:32.30 | dick_turpin | bilarh: I heard something on the TV this morning that'll get your blood boiling (Well it did mine at any rate) |
| 12:34.35 | morsing | dick_turpin! |
| 12:35.34 | dick_turpin | morsing: :-) |
| 12:40.35 | antiphase | Was it introduction of mandatory penectomies for old people? |
| 12:41.22 | morsing | Beer |
| 12:42.13 | dick_turpin | antiphase: Um yes (Even though I don't have a clue what I'm saying yes too) |
| 12:42.28 | antiphase | Cutting old bloke's hamptons off |
| 12:42.54 | morsing | Their ears?! Why?? |
| 12:42.58 | dick_turpin | antiphase: Ah, no point in bilarh's case it gets very little use anyway :-) |
| 12:56.51 | dick_turpin | ibot: kill bilarh |
| 12:56.51 | ibot | ACTION shoots a magneto-ionized fluxmeson gun at bilarh |
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| 13:15.11 | morsing | boudiccas! |
| 13:35.05 | bilarh | in da house |
| 13:35.37 | dick_turpin | bilarh: (12:32:12) dick_turpin: bilarh: I heard something on the TV this morning that'll get your blood boiling (Well it did mine at any rate) |
| 13:35.59 | bilarh | go on then |
| 13:36.10 | bilarh | was it about mis-use of police or anti terrorism powers? |
| 13:36.22 | dick_turpin | bilarh: There is a semi new service 'Pay day loans' being brought in from the USA |
| 13:36.41 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Guess what some of the APR's are? |
| 13:36.46 | bilarh | "the global problems, which of course started in the USA" |
| 13:36.55 | bilarh | 3800%? |
| 13:37.09 | dick_turpin | bilarh: 1.5 million% APR |
| 13:37.15 | wethrin | Ouch |
| 13:37.22 | bilarh | someone's got a good deal there :D |
| 13:37.27 | wethrin | Although the APR is quite meaningless in that situation |
| 13:37.39 | wethrin | The Payday loans I've seen say they're about 4000% APR |
| 13:37.41 | dick_turpin | Apparently in some US states they are outlawed |
| 13:37.54 | wethrin | But, well, it's just a silly number |
| 13:40.03 | dick_turpin | I still say we need to whop some heafty laws on banks and financial institutes, they've had a free hand for what? 3000 years? |
| 13:40.23 | bilarh | awaits gordon brown putting together a package to help "hardworking families" that have been battered by the storms currently sweeping the payday loans market |
| 13:40.53 | bilarh | definitely, i think anything over 2000% is ridicilous :) |
| 13:42.01 | wethrin | Really, though, with Payday loans, you need to think if the extra money you pay back is worth it. |
| 13:42.15 | wethrin | Say you need to borrow £300. Would you be willing to pay back £330? |
| 13:42.25 | wethrin | It's some huge APR, fershure. |
| 13:42.27 | bilarh | dick_turpin: then again, yeah it does kind of stink of sharks a bit doesn't |
| 13:42.28 | bilarh | it |
| 13:42.29 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Ooh thats another one. So when is this Christmas TAX gift? its 1 December soon so the likes of us on monthly pay wont get it till? January? |
| 13:42.43 | bilarh | dick_turpin: wtf, what tax gift? |
| 13:43.23 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Gordon is hinting at a TAX cut as a sort of Christmas present |
| 13:43.31 | bilarh | is he fucking nuts |
| 13:43.44 | bilarh | no doubt paid for by borrowing, seeing as the actual tax take is falling |
| 13:44.01 | bilarh | so he'll give me some money, and then later on i'll have to pay it back with interest |
| 13:44.05 | bilarh | fucking clown he is |
| 13:44.46 | boudiccas | the government gives with one hand whilst taking back with the other, i learnt that back in 1974 and it still holds true today |
| 13:45.13 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Yep just about sums it up |
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| 15:02.24 | bilarh | stabbety stabbety stab |
| 15:02.43 | bilarh | so, we've got this "systemimager" install script |
| 15:02.46 | bilarh | similar to kickstart |
| 15:02.49 | bilarh | except it doesn't work |
| 15:03.00 | bilarh | *sigh* |
| 15:03.38 | morsing | AIX |
| 15:04.13 | dick_turpin | laughs as he is wearing a stab vest trouble is its the wrong way round "Sick of being stabbed in the back" TaDa! |
| 15:04.30 | bilarh | hehe |
| 15:08.21 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Ha we have a Windows server migration script thingy that dosen't work either (I knew it would'nt) that'll teach people to be lazy "Do a proper install" |
| 15:11.11 | bilarh | automatic installs are great when they work |
| 15:11.15 | bilarh | but they suck ass when they don't |
| 15:15.21 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Yeah, what gets my goat is our old server had enough problems and sticking plasters to make it work, they then migrated it to a supposed new one which ended up having even more sticking plasters! |
| 15:16.02 | morsing | What's an rc.proto file? |
| 15:16.40 | Stephmw | wishes he know why vpnc-connect nor vpnclient no longer work for him |
| 15:18.00 | dick_turpin | morsing: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/5721 this? |
| 15:20.22 | morsing | dick_turpin: No - this: http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/systems/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.aix.cmds/doc/aixcmds1/bosboot.htm |
| 15:24.26 | dick_turpin | morsing: Hm, so is Proto short for Protocol? which would make me think its the rc.* protocol. I know what rc.conf is :-) |
| 15:25.48 | Discordian | heh I don't |
| 15:27.07 | morsing | I need to build this it looks like: |
| 15:27.09 | morsing | "The prototype file used by bosboot is constructed by starting with a copy of the base prototype file for the platform type and boot device (for example, /usr/lib/boot/chrp.disk.proto). Next the bosboot command looks at the pcfg file for the platform type being used (for example, /usr/lib/boot/chrp.pcfg). The pcfg file contains entries which bosboot uses in a template to search for proto extension files. These files, located in the directory /usr/lib/boot |
| 15:27.16 | morsing | scsi. |
| 15:27.19 | morsing | chrp. |
| 15:27.21 | morsing | chrp_lpar. |
| 15:27.24 | morsing | fcp. |
| 15:27.26 | morsing | graphics. |
| 15:27.29 | morsing | ide. |
| 15:27.31 | morsing | isa_sio. |
| 15:27.34 | morsing | pci. |
| 15:27.36 | morsing | ssa. |
| 15:27.39 | morsing | sys.pci. |
| 15:27.41 | morsing | The bosboot command will start with the base prototype file /usr/lib/boot/chrp.disk.proto, and search the directory /usr/lib/boot/protoext for any files that match the template disk.proto.ext.scsi.*. The contents of these files are added to the prototype file under construction. Next, the contents of files matching the template /usr/lib/boot/protoext/disk.proto.ext.scsi.* are added to the prototype file under construction. This continues until all lines i |
| 15:27.48 | morsing | proto = prototype |
| 15:28.37 | dick_turpin | morsing: Oh OK, I didn't know so I asked |
| 15:29.20 | dick_turpin | staggers off after being bludgened to bits by morsing's hail of cut-n-paste |
| 15:31.10 | morsing | dick_turpin: Did you read it all? |
| 15:31.54 | dick_turpin | Discordian: Its easy peasy rc.conf is the configuration file (On ArchLinux) it holds all the directives for 'host' 'eth0' 'daemons' etc. |
| 15:32.28 | dick_turpin | morsing: Um some but it was a bit advanced for me although I suppose if I had a couple of hours I could work it out |
| 15:32.37 | Discordian | For your distro yes |
| 15:32.42 | Discordian | But not mine |
| 15:33.31 | Discordian | Not such beastie on Redhat/Fedora/Centos |
| 15:33.49 | dick_turpin | Discordian: Course. people never talk about stuff they never use do they? ;-) |
| 15:34.22 | Discordian | The bosboot stuff sounds very much like the old SySV bfs file-system that made up /boot |
| 15:34.59 | dick_turpin | Discordian: Ah thats coz its under /init.d there's no such beastie on Arch |
| 15:36.05 | Discordian | Ummm well vestigally it is still in /etc/init.d as at Fedora 9 |
| 15:36.18 | Discordian | Bit Fedora 9 in fact uses upstart |
| 15:36.28 | Discordian | s/Bit/But/ |
| 15:38.04 | dick_turpin | Discordian: I've installed F10 under VM, nice |
| 15:42.22 | Discordian | I'm waiting till F10 ships golf |
| 15:42.25 | Discordian | gold |
| 15:43.11 | dick_turpin | Discordian: lol I prefered Golf |
| 15:43.23 | Discordian | heh |
| 15:45.49 | bilarh | heh, nice insurance company i have |
| 15:45.59 | bilarh | no increase in premium for another 40 bhp :D |
| 15:51.17 | dick_turpin | bilarh: I'm with Quinn Direct, Irish company. On the brochure it says "In the event of an accident you must call the Garda or your insurance will be invalid" rotflmao can you imagine trying to explain where you are? |
| 15:53.40 | bilarh | who are the garda? |
| 15:53.50 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Irish Police |
| 15:53.55 | bilarh | ah :D |
| 16:05.23 | ChoHag | Can nagios have user defined per-service and/or per-host data? |
| 16:06.04 | bilarh | dick_turpin: so you're funding IRA with your insurance premium then? |
| 16:09.55 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Yeah, plus you get 'the little people' come out and fix your car |
| 16:10.24 | bilarh | that reference went over my head |
| 16:12.20 | dick_turpin | bilarh: The Leprechauns of Ireland |
| 16:41.23 | kjs | yo |
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| 19:31.57 | rhowe | http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1786497&tstart=0 |
| 19:40.00 | andy__ | anyone know anyone working for berkeley? |
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