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| 00:06.51 | morsing | eddnix! |
| 00:07.05 | eddnix | Evening |
| 00:09.36 | z00dax | hello |
| 00:11.15 | eddnix | hello z00dax |
| 00:12.20 | eddnix | I'm ducking out of the cruft I'm pumpig into eclipse andthught I'd explore here |
| 00:13.14 | eddnix | with a more tyos than you could point a grubby reference at....*sigh* |
| 00:13.29 | eddnix | typos... oh well |
| 00:17.37 | z00dax | indeed |
| 00:17.49 | eddnix | and by deed |
| 00:18.03 | z00dax | think of them as 'watermarks' |
| 00:18.10 | eddnix | haha |
| 00:18.52 | z00dax | its how open source tracks its 'IP'. noone else uses variable names like 'vDumpThatFileOvertheothe3rplace' |
| 00:20.29 | eddnix | I'm having one of those evenings where I wish I'd written everything in a try block, with a goToBed() catch |
| 00:21.07 | z00dax | its not evening anymore, were 21 minutes into this morning |
| 00:23.07 | eddnix | in that case even goToBed() is broken, maybe it's the clocks changing... |
| 00:31.54 | eddnix | goes to change clocks. Goodnight z00dax. |
| 00:32.44 | z00dax | tada |
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| 05:23.56 | morsing | Leeds! |
| 05:48.50 | morsing | Anyone awake? |
| 05:49.13 | morsing | Leeds: What does MSN Messenger do with "/me"? |
| 05:56.45 | morsing | Leeds: Hello? |
| 07:29.46 | morsing | Leeds: HELLOOOOOOO? |
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| 07:52.29 | morsing | Stephmw! |
| 07:52.35 | morsing | Stephmw: Where's Leeds? |
| 07:53.32 | Stephmw | morsing: didn't he say it was your turn to have him over? |
| 07:53.57 | morsing | !! |
| 07:54.40 | morsing | Stephmw: How does MSN Messenger respond if I type /me ? |
| 07:56.50 | morsing | Stephmw: Hello? |
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| 08:11.48 | Stephmw | morsing: how knows? |
| 08:12.27 | morsing | sabinef72! |
| 08:23.46 | bilarh | wohoo, payday tomorrow :D |
| 08:31.56 | morsing | bilarh: **** ***! |
| 08:36.53 | Leeds | woohoo! |
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| 08:37.11 | Leeds | I think I'm going to buy myself a gigabit switch for home tonight |
| 08:39.01 | morsing | cityLights! |
| 08:39.31 | morsing | bilarh: I have £16k worth of outstanding invoices with my agency that they're refusing to pay |
| 08:47.53 | bilarh | why are they refusing to pay? |
| 08:52.15 | morsing | bilarh: Technical problems with the timesheet system at the company I'm at. Shouldn't be my problem but it is |
| 08:52.35 | bilarh | sounds like a bollox excuse for holding on to your money |
| 08:52.50 | morsing | Inndeed |
| 08:53.10 | bilarh | remember to keep soem for tax this time when you finally get it ;) |
| 08:54.54 | morsing | "This time"? You need to explain that! |
| 08:55.12 | bilarh | i thought you forgot to keep some for the tax man last year? |
| 08:55.25 | bilarh | or maybe i got it all arse around elbow |
| 08:56.59 | morsing | You do - as usual |
| 09:19.33 | z00dax | Leeds: yay! which one ? |
| 09:20.05 | Leeds | z00dax: something B-brand, linksys, d-link, something like that |
| 09:20.35 | Leeds | I want it for two reasons - I finally have a couple of machines at home which can do gigabit, and I want to relegate my slightly unreliable wireless router to being an AP |
| 09:20.44 | z00dax | Leeds: I've been mostly ok with a pair of netgear gs108's |
| 09:21.00 | z00dax | and amazingly for a £30 switch it even works with JumboFrame properly. |
| 09:21.07 | Leeds | thanks, I'll look for one of them then :-) |
| 09:21.55 | Leeds | to be honest, wired switches tend to be in a sad little pile at the back of the shop nowadays, relegated by the snazzy wireless boxes |
| 09:22.15 | z00dax | if you have some money to burn, the HP 1800's are quite nice too. |
| 09:22.34 | Leeds | I don't really... |
| 09:23.01 | Leeds | I don't even need more than 4-6 ports, to be honest |
| 09:23.06 | z00dax | the 1800 with 24ports is about £200 or something |
| 09:23.14 | Leeds | *for home* |
| 09:23.18 | z00dax | wonder how much the 8 port version is |
| 09:23.24 | z00dax | 116 |
| 09:24.03 | Leeds | hmm... is GS108 different from GS108T? |
| 09:24.48 | Leeds | eh, I don't even need something managed |
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| 09:29.11 | z00dax | no managment on these box's i have here |
| 09:30.33 | Leeds | right, looks like the GS108T is the managed version, and it's about 80 quid |
| 09:31.27 | Leeds | I think I'll go look at what they have in wanchai... laters |
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| 09:38.32 | morsing | Stephmw! |
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| 10:47.30 | morsing | mindbendr! |
| 10:47.44 | morsing | Woooo! Our Internet connection is now up to 6bpm! |
| 10:48.03 | wethrin | bits per minute? |
| 10:50.17 | morsing | Yes |
| 10:50.24 | wethrin | nippy |
| 10:51.10 | morsing | No |
| 10:54.24 | mindbendr | morning |
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| 10:57.16 | morsing | Leeds! |
| 11:01.57 | morsing | Beer |
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| 12:14.54 | mindbendr | exit |
| 12:14.56 | mindbendr | ops. |
| 12:23.46 | morsing | Leeds! |
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| 12:34.54 | dick_turpin | "Can you look through the mails, our customer has had a bounce back, when you find the mail forward it to us" Its a bounce back you moron! |
| 12:49.07 | z00dax | what ? you dont retain msg body as well ? |
| 12:49.42 | dick_turpin | z00dax: The mail server blew up :-) |
| 12:50.04 | z00dax | send pictures |
| 12:51.44 | dick_turpin | Ok slight exaggeration, actually the UPS died and as luck would have it we had a power failure on top "It never rains but it pours" :-( |
| 12:52.29 | z00dax | and backup MX ? |
| 12:53.22 | dick_turpin | z00dax: If there's no machine there they go to the great email black hole in the sky |
| 13:17.36 | j0nr | mornin |
| 13:17.40 | j0nr | oh afternoon |
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| 13:32.49 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Say hi to the boys |
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| 13:34.11 | boudiccas | hi |
| 13:34.55 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Fail! You're supposed to say "Hi Boys" in a sexy voice |
| 13:36.23 | j0nr | hey all... following on... i have an alias that sends sudo halt to remote server... i am trying to get it to be a one click shortcut without passwords.. ie no ssh or sudo password |
| 13:36.53 | j0nr | so far have set up ssh key so no ssh pass asked for, but how did i get around the sudo password? |
| 13:37.16 | j0nr | antiphase did suggest something but i didnt take it in yesterda |
| 13:37.28 | j0nr | adding something to visudo?/ |
| 13:37.33 | Blapto | visudo |
| 13:37.37 | Blapto | there are tutorials on the net |
| 13:38.04 | j0nr | ok will look up. |
| 13:45.53 | mindbendr | is it possible to define subdomains for a domain on a dns server that doesn't exist on the domain's dns server that allow us to resolve some subdomains that is not exist really |
| 13:46.05 | mindbendr | when we query that dns server |
| 13:47.58 | mindbendr | like test.com (real ip), abc.test.com (local ip) |
| 13:51.22 | wethrin | Yes. |
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| 13:51.48 | wethrin | (I think, if I understand your question) |
| 13:52.28 | morsing | boudiccas! |
| 13:52.34 | morsing | wethrin: They fixed it :D |
| 13:52.46 | wethrin | The agency? |
| 13:58.25 | mindbendr | wethrin: how? |
| 13:58.36 | mindbendr | wethrin: test.com's dns server is some other server |
| 13:59.21 | wethrin | Delegate int.test.com to an internal DNS server |
| 13:59.30 | mindbendr | wethrin: so as query -my- dns server, i want it to forward for normal queries but as it can't find that specific subdomain on the real dns server , i want it to answer my query for that subdomain |
| 13:59.34 | wethrin | You should be running your own DNS servers anyway |
| 14:00.05 | j0nr | in visudo i am tryin to add 'reboot' to not require a passwd, but i keep getting Warning: undeclared Cmnd_Alias `REBOOT' referenced near line 24 |
| 14:00.08 | j0nr | >>> sudoers file: syntax error, line 23 <<< |
| 14:00.08 | wethrin | Okay - make your DNS server master for the zone int.test.com |
| 14:00.11 | j0nr | What now? |
| 14:00.33 | wethrin | Paste line 23 |
| 14:00.36 | wethrin | It might help |
| 14:00.57 | j0nr | how do u open vi with line numbers? |
| 14:00.58 | mindbendr | wethrin: but if my dns server can't find a subdomain (as if someone adds a new subdomain on the other dns server) would that answer? |
| 14:01.16 | mindbendr | wethrin: like having 2 different zone files for one domain with different definitions |
| 14:01.25 | mindbendr | and i want it to merge those results in some cases |
| 14:01.25 | j0nr | %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL |
| 14:01.25 | j0nr | jonrserv ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: reboot |
| 14:01.32 | j0nr | thats 23 and 24 |
| 14:02.53 | wethrin | Let's go grab an example from the man page |
| 14:02.58 | wethrin | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:03.07 | wethrin | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:03.07 | wethrin | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:03.08 | wethrin | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:04.25 | wethrin | mindbendr: Your DNS server wouldn't be the primary for that other subdomain, then |
| 14:15.11 | j0nr | thanks wethrin ...sorry, but still learning. |
| 14:15.16 | wethrin | That's find |
| 14:15.21 | wethrin | sudoers can be fairly complex |
| 14:15.32 | j0nr | how do i find my machine name? will my ip addy work?/ |
| 14:15.41 | wethrin | OpenBSD's man page is 23 pages long |
| 14:15.47 | wethrin | 'hostname' |
| 14:15.53 | wethrin | Or just use ALL instead |
| 14:16.12 | mindbendr | wethrin: how do I do that? |
| 14:17.08 | wethrin | zone "int.test.com" { type master; file "master/int.test.com"; }; |
| 14:17.13 | wethrin | in your named.conf |
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| 14:21.47 | morsing | boudiccas! |
| 14:23.20 | j0nr | jonrserv ALL = (ALL) NOPASSWD: reboot |
| 14:23.26 | j0nr | still giving me a syntax error? |
| 14:24.51 | hali | j0nr: full path to the file |
| 14:25.01 | hali | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:25.15 | hali | otherwise people could create a script called 'reboot' with rm -rf / :) |
| 14:26.01 | j0nr | hali: aha! many thanks |
| 14:28.02 | j0nr | worked ! thanks all! |
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| 14:58.23 | morsing | boudiccas! |
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| 15:27.47 | wethrin | ta |
| 15:28.26 | z00dax | emm ? |
| 15:28.54 | wethrin | Too many bounces |
| 15:28.55 | morsing | z00dax: I think she's with Duck still |
| 15:29.13 | z00dax | who is Duck Still ? |
| 15:29.21 | wethrin | Once her connection gets a bit more stable, the ban will be removed |
| 15:29.29 | z00dax | hopefully not related to Benjamin Still |
| 15:29.40 | wethrin | likes whisky stills |
| 15:31.52 | morsing | wethrin: It's been like that for two years... Keep hoping |
| 15:32.45 | wethrin | Some days it's worse than others |
| 15:35.19 | dick_turpin | wethrin: That seemed a bit harsh? Or am I being too much of a wus? |
| 15:35.49 | morsing | dick_turpin: Harsh in what respect? I think you're misunderstanding |
| 15:35.55 | morsing | And why are you asking wethrin? |
| 15:37.03 | dick_turpin | morsing: Why not? Is there some rule on who can be asked what? I know you kicked her |
| 15:37.08 | bilarh | ah ffs |
| 15:37.16 | bilarh | for some reason i don't get paid overtime for weekend work anymore |
| 15:37.34 | bilarh | "nothing will change when you move to the new office" |
| 15:37.38 | bilarh | stabs everyone in the face |
| 15:37.39 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Cos you dont earn it you fat 'f' |
| 15:37.51 | bilarh | that's true, i suppose |
| 15:38.00 | morsing | dick_turpin: I had a talk with Sharon last time this happened and she's aware that this is now the procedure |
| 15:38.36 | dick_turpin | morsing: Shrug. Its no skin off my nose |
| 15:39.05 | wethrin | It's common practice if someone's bouncing a lot to ban them from the channel until they say "Hello, I'm actually around now" |
| 15:39.14 | morsing | dick_turpin: So wtf are you moaning about? |
| 15:39.27 | morsing | dick_turpin: Stop being a child |
| 15:39.42 | dick_turpin | morsing: Um, I'm not? why are you making out I am? |
| 15:39.59 | bilarh | pot, kettle, black |
| 15:40.06 | morsing | dick_turpin: You start complaining about it then shrugs when I explain |
| 15:40.09 | morsing | Grow up |
| 15:40.16 | bilarh | senses an opportunity to have an online fight |
| 15:40.29 | wethrin | grumps at Apple's pricing |
| 15:41.02 | wethrin | A 13" display is too small for my needs. Therefore I have to buy a laptop that's twice the price |
| 15:41.02 | antiphase | The high pricing is to deter sensible people |
| 15:41.19 | bilarh | points at dell |
| 15:41.34 | dick_turpin | morsing: I didn't complain, I said that it was a bit harsh Given that I did not know there wa a pre agreement on this matter I think that was a fair comment |
| 15:42.15 | bilarh | dick_turpin: should i stab him? |
| 15:42.22 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Yeah |
| 15:42.22 | wethrin | antiphase: Troll :-P |
| 15:42.33 | bilarh | stabs morsing in the face with a broken bottle |
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| 15:43.05 | morsing | mindbendr! |
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| 18:01.41 | morsing | boudiccas! |
| 18:19.52 | z00dax | has ice-cream |
| 18:21.30 | wethrin | ooh, ice cream |
| 18:21.33 | wethrin | I have some in my freezer |
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| 19:23.52 | morsing | catalyst! |
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| 20:38.38 | morsing | bilarh: How's work? |
| 20:52.25 | morsing | Does anyone know when Hotmail stopped obeying grey listing? |
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| 20:52.44 | morsing | nixofortune! |
| 20:52.57 | nixofortune | yo :) |
| 20:54.10 | z00dax | morsing: what makes you think it did ? |
| 20:54.25 | z00dax | I still get email from people using hotmail / msn - and i have greylisting turned on for my email address |
| 20:54.38 | z00dax | although, i do very agressive whitelisting |
| 20:54.43 | morsing | z00dax: Not sure really :) |
| 20:55.11 | z00dax | humm the two people i know about, have been emailing me for years, so its possible they have been on the whitelist for a long time as well. |
| 20:55.25 | morsing | z00dax: Over the last couple of weeks I haven't been able to receive from Hotmail. Get a connection reset and no retry |
| 20:55.35 | z00dax | ouch |
| 20:55.35 | morsing | z00dax: These are all new people |
| 20:55.48 | z00dax | I've had such issues from comcast recently |
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