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04:29.51morsingLeeds!
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06:57.57morsingStephmw!
07:39.31morsingWhat does (Y) mean?
07:44.16morsingHello?
07:46.58haliin "IM" speak?
07:47.02hali'yes' probably
07:47.14halior it's a pair of Y-front underpants
07:51.39morsingNot yes
07:51.49morsingMaybe it's like \o/?
08:00.18morsinghali: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=462860
08:00.20morsingPost #8
08:00.29morsingHe used MSN so it's a thumbs up
08:01.04morsinghttp://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=(Y)
08:14.03bilarh_ch0hag: i love the way the mmericans (mm, ok) pronounce pasty as in "tasty" but with a p :P
08:17.04morsingOr cawfy
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08:23.24morsingsabinef72!
09:42.02ChoHagThe plebs and, for some reason, the otherwise sane Linux geek are tryng desperately to get internal SSL w/ certificates without going to the 'trouble' of setting up a corporate CA.
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10:43.37morsingBeer
10:44.51wethrinAnyone fancy working in Edinburgh as a sysadmin for Hector the supercomputing service?
10:52.27morsingSure
10:52.35morsingCan't imagine who though...
10:54.07wethrinSOmeone who wants the nice relaxed timescales of an academic job, while being in a nice city
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10:55.00morsingStephmw!
10:55.03morsinghttp://www.morsing.cc/photos/Shakespeare_County_Raceway-October2008/imm005.jpg
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11:28.37dick_turpinmorsing: :-P
11:29.53morsingdick_turpin!
11:32.00morsingwethrin: So what did you think of my timeslip?
11:32.24wethrinHonestly, I had no idea what to make of it. And I couldn't be bothered to work it out
11:36.01dick_turpinSo who do I have to sleep with to get my feed syndicated on Planet gllug?
11:37.36wethrinDean
11:37.41wethrinThere should be a link to email an admin there
11:38.29dick_turpinwethrin: nope only link I found was to a blog?
11:39.15Leedshe took mine off...
11:42.27morsingwethrin: *sigh*
11:42.34wethrinWhat?
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11:51.14dick_turpinwethrin: Do you have an email for Dean Wilson? I must be dense or something I cant seem to see it on the 'Planet' or his blog
11:51.14z00daxdick_turpin: how about the list ?
11:51.14wethrindwilson@unixdaemon.net
11:51.14dick_turpinwethrin: Cheers mate I always said you was one of the good guys take no notice of what the others said ;-)
11:51.14wethrinI rarely take notice :)
11:51.15dick_turpinwethrin: Yeah it has been said ;-)
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13:20.10cpufreakhey
13:20.15cpufreaklinux people
13:21.24cpufreakhow well/badly does www.joost.com work for you now?
13:21.46z00daxis there a linux client aroud now ?
13:21.53z00daxaround even
13:22.12antiphaseIt's Flash, which probably upsets you as well :P
13:22.46z00daxhumm ok, i was somehow under the impression that you needed a client for joost.
13:22.54antiphaseYou used to
13:22.55cpufreaknot anymore
13:24.22morsingBeer
13:40.56bilarh_morsing: you left or right?
13:41.21morsingI'm blue
14:01.18dick_turpinbilarh_: I'm up and down
14:01.46bilarh_upside down?
14:02.16dick_turpinbilarh_: Well in and out to be truethful
14:02.44bilarh_i am soooo tired
14:02.49morsingBeer
14:02.49bilarh_it's disgusting, really
14:20.36bilarh_i feel like i'm going to be ill
14:22.03bilarh_i probably caught it of boudicass :(
14:22.15bilarh_boudiccas, even
14:28.28dick_turpinbilarh_: You'd definately suck a fishermans friend
14:28.41bilarh_sick bastard
14:28.59dick_turpinbilarh_: Less of the sick
14:29.31bilarh_there's nothing wrong with being a sick bastard
14:30.32dick_turpinYou probably caught it from boudiccas at your party I noticed you two dirty dancing
14:30.51bilarh_you saw? :S
14:31.04dick_turpinbilarh_: I have the photo's
14:31.22bilarh_oh dear, don't show morsing he wasn't supposed to know about the party
14:31.45dick_turpinbilarh_: They'll be on Belgium Babes in a few days ;-)
14:32.06bilarh_i aint belgian, you moron
14:32.22dick_turpinbilarh_: I know but your banned in Sweden
14:32.36dick_turpinyou're
14:33.16bilarh_i'm telling you, we should go back to o-levels so that the kids can learn proper grammar and spelling
14:34.21halibla bla bla
14:34.48dick_turpinbilarh_: Na spellcheckers are all the rage now, I mean they even allow calculators in tests these days, I'd laugh my bollocks off if some kid dragged a Clay computer into an English test
14:40.14morsingibot change $289 to gbp
14:40.29morsingibot change 289 usd to gbp
14:40.47bilarh_ibot: stick two fingers up at dick_turpin
14:40.52morsingibot: Like division by zero?
14:40.52ibotACTION smooches division by zero on the forehead
14:41.12morsingibot convert 289 usd to gbp
14:41.18morsingAARGRG
14:41.29bilarh_morsing: just go to x-rate.com
14:41.40z00daxor xe.com or google
14:41.41bilarh_sorry, x-rates.com i mean
14:41.59bilarh_google is good
14:42.33z00daxhttp://www.google.co.uk/search?q=289+USD+to+GBP
14:42.37morsingxe is the best
14:42.50z00daxyeah, xe is what google uses as well
14:43.36dick_turpinibot: kick bilarh_
14:43.36ibotACTION kicks bilarh_
14:43.43z00daxibot: dick_turpin
14:43.43ibotextra, extra, read all about it, dick_turpin is a dirty old man
14:43.49morsingibot z00dax
14:43.50bilarh_xe doesn't do nice graphs, though
14:44.00bilarh_ibot: bilarh
14:44.01ibotfrom memory, bilarh is probably making a fool of himself, as usual, or mad, or a java monkey and abuses log4j, or not a cool dude,  or a cool dude, apparently, or a kangaroo in a wig, or leaving
14:44.16morsingibot z00dax
14:44.21bilarh_someone's got it in for me, again
14:44.25z00daxmorsing: does not know me :D
14:44.29morsingibot z00dax is checking it
14:44.29ibotmorsing: okay
14:44.32morsingibot z00dax
14:44.33ibotsomebody said z00dax was checking it
14:44.35bilarh_ibot: morsing
14:44.36ibotmorsing is probably a nice and very knowledgeable guy who often buys rounds of beer, or mozrat, or living in a virtual universe where AIX resembles Unix. capable of having bee-wax applied to the plucking end, or mozrat, or verb: to paste random crap devoid of context, or not a CNAME for mozrat, or a Python expert, or a philistine
14:44.38z00daxo/
14:45.15bilarh_what's a philistine? Is that like a phallos?
14:45.20morsingI like the plucking end bit - lol :D
14:45.32morsingbilarh_: Someone who doesn't know arts
14:45.36dick_turpinz00dax: Cheers for that
14:45.36z00daxhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philistinism
14:45.45z00daxdick_turpin: ta
14:46.11dick_turpinz00dax: I've forgotton who the twat was that taught ibot that
14:46.25z00daxwasent me
14:46.34wethrinibot: dick_turpin
14:46.35iboti guess dick_turpin is a dirty old man
14:46.43dick_turpinz00dax: I think it was wethrin
14:46.52z00daxibot: wethrin
14:46.52ibotsomebody said wethrin was bigger than a breadbox, unless said breadbox is > 5'11" long, or silly, or afraid that its time to correct how people use it's, or ha
14:47.11dick_turpinibot: bilarh_
14:47.11ibotmethinks bilarh_ is a big girls blouse
14:47.19bilarh_wtf
14:47.24bilarh_ibot: bilarh
14:47.24ibotbilarh is probably probably making a fool of himself, as usual, or mad, or a java monkey and abuses log4j, or not a cool dude,  or a cool dude, apparently, or a kangaroo in a wig, or leaving
14:47.26dick_turpinrotflmao
14:47.39bilarh_that was you wasn't it
14:47.47bilarh_ibot: dick_turpin is a sad git
14:47.48ibot...but dick_turpin is already something else...
14:47.52dick_turpinbilarh_: Hopefully
14:47.52bilarh_aaargh
14:47.53morsingibot Tarragon
14:47.53ibotwell, tarragon is a tall Northern bloke.
14:47.57wethrinbilarh_: You need an 'also' in there
14:48.04bilarh_ibot: dick_turpin is also a sad git
14:48.05ibotokay, bilarh_
14:48.05morsingibot SpudULike
14:48.06iboti heard spudulike is gets worried by the term 34 weeks.  But don't ask him about it, he'll start to wimper
14:48.10dick_turpinwethrin: Shut your face
14:48.18bilarh_wethrin: ta
14:48.25bilarh_ibot dick_turpin
14:48.26ibotsomebody said dick_turpin was a dirty old man, or a sad git
14:48.26morsingibot jason_ukfsn
14:48.27iboti heard jason_ukfsn is the guy who runs UK Free Software Network, the FLOSS supporting ISP that keeps it's financial promises, or a barbie girl
14:48.34morsingibot George
14:48.35ibotwell, george is gwright@kde.org and a KDE devel
14:49.04bilarh_why does it say "well, ..." sometimes and "i heard ..." etc sometimes?
14:49.25morsingibot Cope
14:49.26ibotACTION frowns, "I'm coping fine thank you."
14:49.30morsingibot cope
14:49.31ibotACTION frowns, "I'm coping fine thank you."
14:49.34morsingibot cope_
14:49.48morsingibot mozrat
14:49.49ibot[mozrat] a geek, or pissed, or not morsing  ALIVE!!!, or not a CNAME for morsing, or so pissed he can't update his factiod, or and we won!!!!!!, or not even Australian, or a piker, or morsing, or completelylylyl pissed
14:50.08morsingibot Leeds
14:50.09iboti guess leeds is a bloke called Richard making bras in Hong Kong, or a bloke called Richard, or a rubbish footie team, or better than Google, or a Solaris freeware and Perl expert, or a regexp expert, or been fired from the bra company, or not my problem, or a very sociable guy, or a sexy alian, or the manual, or a whining butthead
14:50.35morsingibot Zachary
14:50.36ibotsomebody said zachary was cute, or changing smelly nappies
14:50.46morsingOMG - I wouldn't call him "cute"!!!
14:51.11bilarh_ibot really does provide endless fun
14:51.29dick_turpinbilarh_: A bit like you then
14:51.34bilarh_yes :D
14:51.47dick_turpinbilarh_: Mindless drivel
14:52.12bilarh_i'm not going to argue with that
14:52.47dick_turpinbilarh_: To be fair you cant, your already overdrawn on brain cells :-P
14:54.09bilarh_it's ok, gordon brown will guarantee them for me
14:54.38bilarh_but then he's also a couple of spanners short of a toolbox
14:56.05dick_turpinbilarh_: lol I was just thinking that, I suppose we ought to get a room as its starting to be "Great Minds Think Alike"
14:56.55bilarh_i'm not sure i'd feel comfortable being in the same room as you, dick "chloroform" turpin
14:59.52halibilarh_: does this smell like chloroform to you?
14:59.58bilarh_hehe :P
15:00.57dick_turpinhm thats like the Freddy Star joke about playing the fruit game
15:01.07bilarh_which one is that then?
15:01.59dick_turpinbilarh_: I'll tell you it via /pm people might get upset
15:02.20bilarh_hrm, that never stopped you before
15:02.31bilarh_don't go all sensible on me
15:04.07boudiccasibot boudiccas
15:04.08ibot[boudiccas] the former queen of the icini, or round and mild
15:04.39boudiccassounds like a beer, round and mild
15:05.08bilarh_or me
15:05.21bilarh_well, the round bit
15:05.57boudiccasmy mother reeckons that i'm shaped like an apple!
15:06.05boudiccas*reckons
15:06.17boudiccasi thought i was pear shaped
15:06.29bilarh_have you got a twig sticking out of your head?
15:06.33bilarh_maybe she meant melon
15:06.37halibilarh_: rude!
15:06.43bilarh_because theyr'e quite similar
15:06.53bilarh_hali: what's new?
15:06.58halii think the best way to solve this is with some bikini pictures
15:07.20bilarh_queue "this thread is worthless without pics" emoticons :)
15:07.30bilarh_i'm not sure if i should show you the pics of me in a bikini
15:07.50halii can send the ones i have of you in a bikini
15:08.04bilarh_uh-oh
15:08.14bilarh_is this in any way related to anything i might have done on my stag night?
15:08.39halino the other week when we went to that gentlements sauna club
15:08.41hali-t
15:08.41bilarh_if so, may i remind you that it is punishable by death to spread any (obviously) false rumours about me in a bikini
15:08.41dick_turpinboudiccas: You are and juicy too
15:09.04boudiccasi'm not 'juicy lucy'!!!
15:09.06haliwe were queing outside the gloryhole section
15:09.14bilarh_gloryhole hehe
15:09.23bilarh_that's wrong on at least one level
15:09.23hali<- *filthy*
15:09.47dick_turpinboudiccas: Yeah right ;-)
15:10.10boudiccas*sniff and cough
15:10.51boudiccasat least the coughing is subsiding now, thats somethign to be praised
15:11.02dick_turpinboudiccas: Have you cant ward me off with them sniffles
15:11.07dick_turpinHa
15:11.24boudiccassnuff
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15:38.49bilarh_jeeeeesus christ
15:38.56wethrin?
15:39.05Blaptoyou called?
15:41.33bilarh_wtf
15:41.38bilarh_how can people break nagios so badly
15:41.54bilarh_so.... we have a fucking cronjob on every machine that submits data into nagios instead of having nrpe
15:41.59bilarh_wtf is wrong with people
15:42.07wethrinEw
15:42.10bilarh_totally
15:42.18bilarh_"well this is the way we're going with it"
15:42.26bilarh_cries into his hands
15:42.27wethrinDo it properly yourself
15:42.46DiscordianUKyou're doing passive monitoring?
15:43.03bilarh_discordian: for things like disk space checks
15:43.09halibilarh_: way to get around firewall rules?
15:43.18bilarh_no, everything on the same network
15:43.23bilarh_it's "just because"
15:43.29bilarh_they want to submit data into ganglia as well
15:43.33DiscordianUKmakes sense for some things
15:43.40haliclassic "i don't care how it works so i'll just botch this up"
15:44.23antiphaseMonitoring is for weenies. I bet Chuck Norris doesn't have any
15:44.47halimonitoring uses chuck norris
15:47.46bilarh_no i think chuck norris owns monitoring
15:47.52bilarh_anyway, i shall be going home now
15:47.55bilarh_l8rs folks
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17:45.44DiscordianUKgah
17:56.01z00daxhumm the weather looks grim for tomorrow
17:56.58DiscordianUKit wasn't good today either
17:58.37z00daxi did not get out much
17:58.45z00daxDiscordianUK: you are moving soon ?
17:59.08DiscordianUKvery soon yes
18:27.49j0nrevening all
18:28.13j0nris there a better (read faster) way to remote desktop another computer on a lan?
18:28.30Blaptossh
18:28.38BlaptoOr do you need VNC?
18:28.40DiscordianUKbetter is a comparative term
18:28.50DiscordianUKbetter than what
18:29.03BlaptoX tunnelling over ssh?
18:30.30DiscordianUKthere's always xdcmp
18:30.45j0nrsorry yeah vnc
18:30.53j0nrseems slow, even over lan
18:31.04j0nrbut anyway...back to the wireless
18:31.13j0nrgot the card more or less working! yey!
18:31.24DiscordianUKtightvnc is a lot faster
18:31.30j0nrbut in network manager there is no wireless networks showing up
18:50.17Leedsand that has what to do with remote desktop?
18:51.12DiscordianUKand you have a wireless network?
18:51.51DiscordianUKand does 'iwlist scan' show it?
18:52.21j0nrsorry i wasnt speaking about it in here i forgot.
18:52.40j0nram trying to get a broadcom wireless cardd to work in my pc
18:52.43j0nrbut it just wont
18:52.58j0nrive tried ndiswrapper and bcm43xxx-fwcutter
18:53.03j0nrcant get the bugger to work
18:53.16DiscordianUKkernel? distro?
18:53.22j0nrubuntu
18:53.35j0nrerm 2.6.24-21-generic if thats right?
18:54.02j0nrif i do a ifconfig there is no wireless connection
18:54.06DiscordianUKI don't know anything about Ubuntu but I have 3 laptops working with wifi on Fedora
18:54.09j0nrjust eth0 and lo
18:54.22j0nrthis is a desktop with a belkin card
18:54.27DiscordianUKThat's not a good sign
18:54.34j0nrmy laptop works perfectly but this desktop has been nothing but trouble
18:54.47DiscordianUKpci card?
18:54.51j0nrlspci finds it... so can i assume that the card is ok if thats finding it?
18:54.55j0nryeah pci
18:55.07DiscordianUKHmmm
18:55.26DiscordianUKI wonder if it needs firmware
18:55.30DiscordianUKto work
18:55.33j0nri think it does
18:55.43j0nri have been trying ndiswrapper and bcm43xxx-fwcutter
18:55.57j0nrbut to start with i am not even sure i have the right driver
18:56.02DiscordianUKare you downloading firmware to it?
18:56.06j0nrits hard to know what i am looking for
18:56.12j0nrum...i'm not sure
18:56.29j0nrthe guide ive been looking at just said to bcm... the driver into /lib/firmware
18:56.47DiscordianUKindeed /lib/firmware is what fedora uses
18:57.03DiscordianUKdo you have anything in it?
18:57.29j0nryeah the bcm fwcutter extracts files into it
18:58.03DiscordianUKthen dmesg should show if firmware is being downloaded
18:58.40j0nrwhat am i looking for in dmesg? its big!
18:59.07DiscordianUKpatience is a virtue
18:59.19DiscordianUKlspci scans the bus
18:59.34DiscordianUKwhat does it say for the pci card?
18:59.56j0nr00:09.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03)
19:01.28DiscordianUKIt' certainly supported
19:01.43DiscordianUKDoes it show up when you do 'iwconfig'
19:02.23j0nr[   25.726293] PCI: Cannot allocate resource region 0 of device 0000:00:09.0
19:02.27j0nris that relevant?
19:02.36j0nrhas the same 00:09.0 in it
19:02.51DiscordianUKhmm that's hardware
19:03.04j0nr[   25.783633] PCI: Error while updating region 0000:00:09.0/0 (50000000 != 00000000)
19:03.15DiscordianUKyou might need to fiddle with the bios
19:04.23j0nrhmm what for? as in what am i looking to adjust?
19:04.31j0nr(i may have fiddled too much with it :/)
19:04.55DiscordianUKit doesn't show up as wlan0 when you do iwconfig?
19:05.12j0nrnope
19:05.16j0nrjust lo and eth0
19:06.38DiscordianUKat some level the kernel is seeing it
19:08.15j0nrin the bios there is a plug and play o/s setting which is currently off
19:08.43j0nrYES: lets os configure plug n play devices not required for boot is system has a plug n play os
19:08.53j0nrthat sounds like it should be on
19:09.56DiscordianUKyeah
19:10.54j0nri really think i m just up against crap hardware... this pc never worked right
19:11.00j0nrwhereas my laptop is on 24/7
19:11.04j0nrno problems at all
19:11.37j0nrbeen considering using an old laptop as a server... nice and quiet and low power useage
19:12.06DiscordianUKi'm too poor to have more than one pc on a time anyway
19:12.58j0nrnah that didnt change anything
19:13.08j0nrstill nothing under iwconfig
19:14.05DiscordianUKhmmm
19:14.20j0nrdo you think the light on the card itself should be on?
19:15.02DiscordianUKi'd imagine it would light up if the firmware had downloaded
19:15.18j0nrbut if it is in lspci then its being detected right?
19:15.38DiscordianUKyes that's a simple scan of the pci bus
19:16.07DiscordianUKdoesn't depend on drivers etc
19:16.24nixofortunej0nr: modprobe b43
19:18.40j0nrnixofortune: should that have returned something?
19:18.58nixofortuneno
19:19.22nixofortuneafter that try ifconfig
19:19.32j0nrno change
19:19.50nixofortunemodprobe  b43legacy
19:20.02z00daxwhat distro ?
19:20.14j0nri think i may have accidently removed some b43 stuff from lib/firmware :/
19:20.17j0nrubuntu hardy
19:20.34DiscordianUKmodprobe bcmwl5 is what the web page I'm looking at suggests
19:20.43z00daxlspci -n; then check the pcimap for the kernel.
19:21.06j0nrbcmwl5 module not found
19:21.28z00daxthe kernel might not actually support your h/w, even if the driver is capable of, in which case you might need to modprobe with some pci param's
19:21.31j0nrz00dax: huh?
19:21.47nixofortunemodprobe  b44
19:22.29j0nr00:09.0 0280: 14e4:4320 (rev 03)
19:22.59j0nrman i have so no idea what i am doing here
19:22.59DiscordianUKIs this a Belkin card?
19:23.02j0nryeah
19:23.10DiscordianUKOh dear
19:23.13j0nrbelkin f5d7000
19:23.40DiscordianUKBelkin keep the same product designations and shift the kit they supply
19:23.48z00dax14e4 is broadcom
19:23.49j0nras far as i am aware it should be a cse of using either ndiswrapper or bcm43xx-fwcutter to extract the firmware
19:23.57DiscordianUKas and when what is available
19:24.10z00daxbcm43xx is very unstable, is mostly disabled at most places.
19:24.18z00daxso ndiswrapper is what you should be using
19:24.33j0nrok
19:24.35j0nrive tried many things tho... i worry ive made a mess
19:24.39z00daxhttp://pci-ids.ucw.cz/read/PC/14e4/4320
19:24.50z00daxndiswrapper does not carea bout /lib/firmware
19:24.59z00daxs/ea bout/e about/
19:25.15z00daxyou will need a sane windows driver though
19:26.01j0nrwhat am i looking at on tht page z00dax
19:26.02j0nr?
19:26.12z00daxhow new are you to Linux ?
19:26.22z00daxnot being funny, I just dont know.
19:26.33j0nrquite new
19:26.37j0nrabout 6 months
19:26.38z00daxok, ignore that page :D
19:26.44j0nr:)
19:27.17z00daxare you on a 64bit distro or 32bit ?
19:27.20z00dax( uname -m )
19:28.37z00daxalso, you might want to look at an ubuntu specific guide for ndiswrapper. i think they have something built into the repos
19:28.41z00daxnot sure though
19:30.07DiscordianUKthere's a #ubuntu on here i think
19:30.16z00daxI am sure there is
19:31.05z00daxtries to work out git
19:31.36DiscordianUKgood luck
19:31.51z00daxI've been using it for a bit, its still kicking my butt
19:32.19DiscordianUKwhat was so bad about CVS
19:32.31j0nrhmm
19:32.41j0nrfamiliar with ndiswrapper?
19:32.51j0nrmany guides tell me to go ndiswrapper -m
19:32.59j0nrbut that returns * The update-modules command is deprecated and should not be used!
19:33.05DiscordianUKNot me , I buy hardware that Linux supports
19:33.06j0nrso i dont know if it is working or not
19:33.13j0nr:(
19:33.55DiscordianUKYou'd be better off on #ubuntu
19:34.27DiscordianUKI only know Redhat derived Linux oses and Solaris
19:35.57j0nrok cheers for your help!
19:36.56z00daxndiswrapper -l
19:37.01z00daxdoes that list the hardware ? #
19:37.09z00daxhave you done the ndiswrapper -i ?
19:37.28z00daxdid the 'modprobe ndiswrapper' give you anything ? in dmesg perhaps ?
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19:42.20j0nrright i give up
19:42.26j0nrwasting too much of my life
19:42.57j0nrz00dax: bcmwl5a : invalid driver!
19:43.52j0nri think a big problem is finding the right driver
19:44.07j0nri need to find bcmwl5a.inf
19:44.18j0nrbut that alone doesnt seem to be what it wants.. it wants other things with it
19:44.27z00daxj0nr: normally XP drivers work, visa drivers not so much
19:44.42z00daxand you should find the driver for the card that you have, so something that came with you laptop
19:46.34j0nri bought the card on its own
19:46.57j0nri went to the belkin website, got their driver, but it doesnt contain the right things... i dont think
19:49.16j0nrwell i installed what it did have in it... Rt2500.inf
19:49.19j0nrit installed ok
19:49.23j0nrbut so what...
19:50.04j0nri feel like i am pissing into the wind in the dark with my hands tied behind my back
19:50.26DiscordianUKyou did buy belkin
19:52.11j0nrlol
19:52.20j0nrcan you recommend a brand that works
19:52.45DiscordianUKdo you have usb on it?
19:52.52j0nryeah
19:53.25DiscordianUKlinksys/c&w wireless usb dongles work
19:54.05DiscordianUKi'm sure what you have can be made to work
19:58.01j0nroooo getting somehwere
19:58.12j0nrndiswrapper -l shows driver AND device!
19:58.38j0nrthats progress!
20:01.31j0nrsigh... still no worky
20:02.40DiscordianUKyou have a device?
20:03.35DiscordianUKthen you'll need networkmanager and wpa_supplicant
20:07.13j0nrwell a device in ndiswrapper
20:07.18j0nrnothing in ifconfig
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20:14.24morsingrhowe_!
20:15.47j0nrthanks for your help... will get a linksys dongle i think
20:15.51j0nrthanks anyway!
20:15.54j0nrbye for now
20:18.04ChoHagWhoever chose C-a for the GNU screen hotkey is a pain in the arse.
20:30.38z00daxChoHag: why ?
20:31.01ChoHagBecause C-a is also the key sequence to move to the beginning of the line.
20:31.04z00daxDiscordianUK: the only bcm43xx device I've used or had to use as a Linksys pcmcia card :D
20:31.26z00daxyou can change that in your .screenrc
20:31.36ChoHagI know, and I do on my account.
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20:37.22morsingrhowe!
20:39.34z00daxChoHag: ok, so how about the person who made CTRL+S the start-torrent command in rtorrent ?
20:40.15DiscordianUKLol XOFF great choice
20:41.12ChoHagThat would be annoying, yes.
20:41.13DiscordianUKin a text client
20:41.24ChoHagAlthough I'd wager screen gets used more.
20:41.47DiscordianUKscreen is useful
21:00.08ChoHagMy wife is reading some shit from a book about nails. Out loud.
21:00.33DiscordianUKscrewfix catalogue?
21:00.44ChoHagNot that kind of nail, regrettably.
21:00.58DiscordianUKmanicures?
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21:01.04ChoHagDa.
21:01.11ChoHagGripping stuff.
21:01.47DiscordianUKexciting
21:41.59morsinghttp://stuff.pyzam.com/toys/tictacscare.swf
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